2014 Golf’s Most Wanted Driver – Beyond the Data
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2014 Golf’s Most Wanted Driver – Beyond the Data

2014 Golf’s Most Wanted Driver – Beyond the Data

As you probably know by now, we rely on data and nothing but to determine our Most Wanted Drivers each season. Data is cool…it provides a really solid indicator of how a driver can be expected to perform for a range of, or even a specific type of golfer(s).

Of course, sometimes it’s interesting to go beyond the data. Does adjustability really matter? Did any drivers suffer because of their looks? What performance issues were actually fitting issues?

Today is for talking about some of the things we encountered during our test for which the numbers don’t necessarily tell the whole story.

Adjustability

If it wasn’t already apparent, this year’s test suggest that adjustability is here to stay (how’s that for stating the obvious). Of the 23 drivers we tested, only the ONOFF (Type D & S), PowerBilt Airforce One DFX, Wilson D100, Tommy Armour TA845, Sinister Agent Orange, Cleveland Altitude, and Krank Formula 5 don’t feature some form of hosel-based adjustability. The Formula 5 and ONOFF Type S do feature interchangeable weights, and both Wilson and Cleveland submitted other models that are adjustable.

Adjustability-1

The days of the glued hosel are almost certainly coming to an end.

What cracks me up is that we still hear from guys who think adjustability is stupid and that if guys would only take more lessons, or “learn to hit the ball” they wouldn’t need the crutch that is the adjustable driver. The fact of the matter is that for some golfers…many probably, the ideal fit (whether your fitting approach is face angle first, or loft first) falls somewhere in the middle of a driver’s adjustable range.

It’s always preferable to have options.

I’ll also add that I’d like to see more (every) company move away from the 3°-4°s of loft in a single head approach currently in use by Tour Edge, Cobra , Nike, and Wilson. Nike is slightly different in that they claim independent adjustability of loft and face angle. For everyone else, without dispute; as loft goes up, the face closes. As loft goes down, the face opens. What we’ve seen time after time in our tests is that, more often than not, golfers can handle relatively minor changes to the face angle without issue, but as you get closer to the extremes, particularly in a 4° range (8° and 12° in most cases), extremely closed or open faces can become a real issue.

Callaway Big Bertha-22

So with that in mind, more often than not guys who fit into those 8° and 12° heads will be better off with a stamped loft as opposed to the all-in-one approach. PING’s .25° change is the outlier on the low end of adjustability, but certainly is true to the PING philosophy. What Callaway, TaylorMade and others are doing (~1.5° in either direction) with several differently lofted heads available is extremely effective because of the fitting options the range provides. Assuming a 9°, 10.5°, and 12° head, you have 3 different ways to fit a 10.5° golfer. Square face (10.5°), Open Face (12° delofted), and closed face (9° with loft added).

With no adjustability, limited adjustability, and extreme adjustability,  it’s much harder to dial in optimal (or close to) launch conditions.

Paint

Year after year aesthetics have become less of a talking point. White is basically gone (for now), matte blacks and dark greys are all the rage, and between Nike and Cobra, we’re at a point where there are almost no limits. That has paved the way for bold aesthetics like Sinister’s (Agent) Orange, Krank’s neon green, and Callaway’s midnight blue (Big Bertha/Big Bertha Alpha).

Basically anything goes now, and while our testers have been more or less conditioned to look past anything, arguably it’s the greys (PING i25, Wilson FG Tour m3, and even SLDR) that proved the most popular with our guys. That said, there was plenty of love for the visuals provided by Cobra’s BiO CELL and BiO CELL+, and of course, Nike’s VRS Covert 2.0 (still my favorite).

Yonex EZONE XP-2

Other Subjective Stuff

While we don’t grade on it, sound and feel are remain a constant point of discussion among our testers. Based on the feedback I heard, I think the favorites are the Tour Edge XCG7 and ONOFF Type-D. Both PING offerings were highly regarded as was everything from Callaway. Yonex’s I-EZONE TX and Cobra’s BiO CELL also received nearly universally positive feedback.

Opinions were mixed on TaylorMade’s SLDR and JetSpeed. Most everything else was generally regarded as more or less average, but the two singled out most often in a negative sort of way were the Krank Formula 5 and Cobra BiO CELL+. The Krank is higher pitched than anything else in the test, while our testers felt that the BiO CELL+ felt overly firm. My own perspective on the latter is that I really wanted it to feel like last year’s Amp Cell Pro (my personal best feeling driver of 2013), and it’s most definitely not that.

Being Different

Last year we discussed drivers that were different enough from the pack that it might have impacted performance. As you may recall, Geek’s No Brainer was noticeably heavier, Wishon’s 919THI significantly shorter, and Wilson’s D100, significantly lighter than anything else in our test.

While Cleveland’s 588 Altitude certainly runs on the lighter side, the weight didn’t cause any issues for our testers. It’s light, but not problematically so.  Wilson’s D100 is a different story. To mitigate the weight factor, we intentionally placed the D100 at the end of a 3 club rotation (tester’s hit 3 shots with 3 different drivers before taking a break while the next guy hits). Hitting at the end of a rotation eliminated most of the issues that we saw last year transitioning from ultralight to normal.

Cleveland 588-3

Yonex’s EZONE XP was also a bit problematic. As you might imagine, the counterweighted design offers a bit of a different feel, so it generally took testers an extra shot or two to adjust to, or away from the XP. That said, it’s a driver I think would do a lot of good for a lot of golfers.

While it’s difficult to pinpoint the cause of any specific performance issue, I think it’s fair to say that both the Wilson D100 and TaylorMade JetSpeed do suffer a bit because of their extra length (both are 46″). Each accounted for a portion of the longest drives we saw in the test, but the length proved difficult to control consistently.

There’s a logic in that for Wilson; the D100 is designed to boost clubhead speed through weight reduction and length. With JetSpeed, it is, in my opinion anyway, an unnecessary distance play. I’ve tested at 46″ and played it at 45.5″, and like it a hell of a lot more at 45.5″.

TaylorMade JetSpeed Driver-6

Being different isn’t always bad. If you look past the SLDR for a moment, you’ll see that two of the drivers that performed best for our high swing speed players also feature the shortest stock length in our tests. Both PING’s i25, and Tour Edge’s XCG7 Beta come stock at 45.25″. As we’ve seen (and any good fitter will tell you), shorter shafts almost always lead to more centered strikes, and more centered strikes lead to more distance.

An interesting side note as far as shaft length goes; TaylorMade measures a bit differently than many other manufacturers. Despite their reputation for stealing distance through longer shafts, TaylorMade woods habitually measure 1/8″ shorter than nearly any competitor’s club with the same spec. So if you look at the actual measured length (sole to butt of grip), our top 3 finishers for high swing speed players (both distance and overall) were outfitted with the 3 shortest shafts in our test (i25 and XCG7 Beta 45.25″, SLDR 45.375″).

TourEdge XCG7-15

I assure you, there’s a lesson in that.

Shafts Matter

While we don’t subscribe to the notion that the shaft is everything (sorry…you can’t tweak launch angle by 4° and shave off 1500RPM simply by changing shafts), having options is almost always a good thing (I think I said that already). Once again, some of the top finishers were those clubs that provided the most options.

The stock shaft options for the PING i25 include 3 different weights (55g, 65g, and 75g), along with two different bend profiles (standard tour). Tour Edge options include “made for” variants of the Fujikura Fuel and Matrix MFS series.

I’ve come to believe that weight is every bit as important (if not more so) than flex, and there’s not a doubt in my mind that in both of those cases, having a 30g range to pull from made a huge difference in properly fitting our testers.

Cobra BiO Cell+ Blue-1

Consider Cobra’s BiO CELL+ for a moment. At the time we kicked off our test (pre-retail), Cobra’s plan was to offer the Matrix 6Q3 (Red Tie) as the stock option. Cobra has since added the Diamana D+ (74g) and Project X PXV Tour (52g) as stock options. While the 6Q3 is a perfectly good shaft (actually, it’s really good for stock), I can promise you we’d have seen better performance for both high and low swing speed players with the other 2 shafts at our disposal.

How much better would Bertha and Bertha ALPHA have done with more options? Would SLDR have performed even better with a 75g shaft option? What about Nike’s Covert 2.0?

Have we told you to get fit recently?

Headed in the Right Direction

And speaking of the Covert 2.0…as we said earlier, while you can make a case for Mizuno’s JPX-EZ, the Nike VRS Covert 2.0 is our choice for the most improved driver. I’ll be the first to admit that my initial read was that changes are purely cosmetic, but apparently there’s something to Nike’s Fly Brace Technology, and that’s reflected in the performance. It’s still shiny. It’s still red. It still has a giant swoosh on the crown. Under the hood, however; this is a very different driver (even if I still don’t love the Kuro Kage TiNI).

Nike VRS Covert 2-11

I just mentioned it…Mizuno’s JPX-EZ is a huge step forward from last year’s JPX-825. Mizuno was able to mostly retain the feel that our testers loved while adding adjustability, with lower spin. There’s still no 8.5° option, but the adjustability helps mitigate that.

With the FG Tour m3, Wilson has shown that it’s capable of creating a driver with the potential to appeal to the “serious golfer” crowd. While the m3 was practically sneaky in stealing the top spot for accuracy among slower swing speed players, this is a driver that everyone enjoyed hitting, and it certainly provides plenty of incentive to take Wilson woods seriously again.

Wilson FG Tour M3-7

The Fit-Limited

While certainly we saw standout performances from clubs that didn’t provide as robust a selection of options as others (ONOFF immediately comes to mind), there are without questions several clubs that potentially could have performed significantly better if we’d had more options at our disposal.

As was the case last year, Wilson doesn’t an offer an X-flex option in the D100. It’s one of the higher spinning drivers in our test anyway, and really wasn’t designed with the 8°, x-flex guy in mind. That said, it still offers an insane amount of fun for guys who just love to hit golf balls.

Yonex’s EZONE XP doesn’t offer an x-flex option, while we also didn’t have a regular flex or higher lofted version of the I-EZONE TX. Both are designed with specific golfers in mind, so practically speaking, it makes sense that they don’t offer a complete range of options with either model.

Yonex EZONE IEZONE TX-4

Like the D100, Tommy Amour’s TA845 also suffered from a limited selection. The TA845 is available in 9.5° and 10.5° only, and only in regular and stiff flex. Again, that’s to be expected given its position as Sports Authority’s house brand. Worth mentioning, for the players that it fit well, performance was on par with nearly everything else in our test. That’s impressive given that the TA845 retails for $149, and occasionally goes on sale for as little as $99.

We absolutely have to talk about the 3 Callaway drivers in our test. There’s not a doubt in my mind that with a few more options at our disposal, all 3 would have performed better.

While the X2 Hot performed reasonable well for us, Callaway was unable to provide a 13.5° (HT) model for testing. Our senior-most tester absolutely crushed the higher lofted model last year, and it’s reasonable to assume similar results this year.

Callaway X2Hot-1a

When the results of our tests got out, a buddy sent me this: “You’ll never convince me there are 20 drivers better than Big Bertha“. He’s probably not wrong.

With Big Bertha we had both 9° and 10.5° models to work with, but as with the X2 Hot, no 13.5°. Once again that certainly impacted the results.  I also believe the 50g shaft isn’t a great fit for some of our testers. It’s unquestionably too light for one of our stiff flex testers, and arguably too light for another. You can make the case that some of our guys almost certainly should have hit Bertha better than they did, in general, I think our guys – if forced to pigeonhole them – are probably more Alpha guys than regular Bertha guys. If you’re a 50g guy – or you’ve got the good sense to get a proper custom fitting, the Callaway Big Bertha is well worth a look.

The takeaway here is that issues with Big Bertha are almost certainly not about the performance of the club itself.

Of the clubs that many would argue underperformed for us, Big Bertha Alpha is the single most intriguing. Despite only having a 9° head at our disposal it still managed a top 10 finish. I can promise you this; whether it’s SLDR or G25, or anything else that performed well for us, if there’s only one loft available, none of them finish close to where they are. Given what we had to work with, I’d argue that Bertha Alpha overperformed, and that fact alone makes it extremely compelling (even at $499).

Callaway Big Bertha-28

Callaway is now offering a 10.5° head (not available during testing). That alone probably gets into the top 5. When you consider the potential options should Callaway decide to make the 8.5° Pro model available at retail (and I believe they will), what you’re left with is a driver that could challenge the top of our rankings.

As it has been for the last few years, everything in the Callaway lineup is good, but Big Bertha Alpha looks to be special.

It feels a little ridiculous to put our Most Wanted Driver of 2014 on the list of clubs that underperformed based on the available fitting options, but I think the TaylorMade SLDR belongs here as well. Missing (unavailable at the time of testing) from what TaylorMade sent us were a 14° 460cc head and a 10.5° in the 430cc model. With the 12° set at 13.5° our senior/high loft tester was able to produce some of his best numbers to date. He’s a low ball hitter, and generally more loft brings excessive spin. With the 12.5° we saw improvement, with the 14° I’m all but certain we’d have witnessed insanity.

TaylorMade-SLDR-Driver-16

While one tester was able to take full advantage of the SLDR 430, our other higher swing speed players weren’t able to consistently get the ball high enough in the air with the 9° head (even at 10.5°). A couple of huge drives were hit, but on average the 460 provided better initial launch conditions. If we had a 10.5°, or possibly even a 12°, I’m all but certain we’d have seen bigger numbers from SLDR.

The Inexplicable

Perhaps the most puzzling numbers coming out of this test were produced by the Krank Formula 5. Most of you are familiar with Krank’s reputation (and their habit of winning long drive championships), so it would have been surprising to see Krank near the bottom for distance if the results hadn’t mirrored what we saw when we tested Formula 5 as a one-off over the summer.

The bottom line is that, nearly across the board, the Formula 5 produced a higher launch and higher spin than all of the other drivers in our test. For distance, low spin is imperative, so our results our out of character with what’s expected from Krank.

Krank-Formula-5-Driver-12

What’s up with that?

All we have are theories. Some readers have told us that the deeper face simply takes some getting used to. We’ve theorized that there’s something in the design that inherently works better for golfers with strongly positive angle of attack (your basic long drive swing). Without question, the guys who hit the Formula 5 best are the same ones that have positive angles of attack. For the level to negative guys interested in the Formula 5, the answer may come in taking less loft than you would with other drivers.

Also Worth a Mention

For those of you seeking to maximize distance, even if it means paying a fairly severe penalty for mishits, the Sinister Agent Orange is worth a look. It’s another that produced some absolute bombs for our testers (best to best it’s among the longest), but in our testers minds (and it appears the numbers back this up), the Agent Orange is excessively penal on mishits. More than any other driver in the field, our testers commented on the lack of forgiveness – although most said so after pointing out how insanely long it is when it’s hit on the screws.

Agent Orange-5

The Adams XTD, despite a finishing well within our average range was a popular choice among our higher swing speed players. The most compelling story of the XTD is that Adams consistently tests COR during the manufacturing process to ensure that each and every XTD is right up against the USGA limit. With most any other driver manufacturing tolerances can result in some drivers running a little hot, while others run a little slow. With the XTD, you’re guaranteed to be right at .830.

I’m one of the guys who struggled a bit with the XTD. You can file my problems away under Looks Don’t Matter, Except When They Do. While I’m guessing many will find the crown slot off-putting, my issues with the XTD have to do with the total lack of contrast between the crown and the face. Maybe my eyes are just getting old, but the XTD simply just didn’t look right to me at address.

Adams XTD-2

Finally there’s Cobra’s BiO CELL. During the fitting sessions, and even into the first day of testing, guys were producing consistently good (even outstanding) shots with BiO CELL. It was an early favorite among several testers. For whatever reason…maybe it’s day to day swing changes, maybe it’s a byproduct of hitting several different clubs in a single session, BiO CELL didn’t hold up as well as we initially thought it would. Still…our numbers suggest performance in on par with the bulk of what we tested. Needless to say, there’s nothing about BiO CELL that should discourage Cobra fans, or anyone else.

Cobra BIO Cell-7

Full 2014 Most Wanted Driver Coverage

:: Coming Soon – MyGolfSpy’s 2014 Most Wanted Driver Test
:: 2014 Golf’s Most Wanted Driver – It’s Go Time
:: 2014 Most Wanted Driver – Distance Awards
:: 2014 Most Wanted Driver – Accuracy Awards
:: 2014 Most Wanted Driver – Overall Winners
:: 2014 Most Wanted Driver – Tester’s Pick
:: 2014 Most Wanted Driver – Beyond the Data
:: 2014 Most Wanted Driver – The Data 

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      Dan

      10 years ago

      I hit a Krank Rage driver (The previous model to the Formula 5) with 9 degrees loft and was surprised with your results. I have a 100-108mph swing speed and probably a little faster in the summer time. I absolutely love my Krank driver. I hit it straight and feel it is a very accurate driver as your results show.. I think that is probably the major reason why I love it. The other reason is that I can take a slower swing and still hit it over 300 yards. I do hit the driver on a up stroke. I have great confidence in this driver with a top of the line stiff shaft. So your distance results are lacking some credibility for me.

      I think the problem is that the average distances hit are too short to properly evaluate the Krank driver.

      For me it feels so solid and beautiful on good hits with a great sound and I love the accurate flight and distance. I think I would stick with my Krank over the TM SLDR because I feel so confident with my straight down the middle shots along with the great distance.

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      pooch

      10 years ago

      I am a club fitter and I just want to tell you guys that you are the best resource for anyone out to buy clubs.Your driver analysis is excellent. I often give out your website to customers so they can do some educated research before buying.

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      carry&roll

      10 years ago

      Next year could we expand this discussion to cover home built drivers from components? Even if those components are harvested name brand heads or shafts?
      The reason I ask is because I try all the new drivers on simulators at stores and on course (if my friends have them) and I always end up on the set up I put together for myself. It would be interesting what the trends are for amature and professional club builders and if they compete favorably with the OEMs

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      Leftienige

      10 years ago

      All very interesting , but I also saw a lengthy article by Tom Wishon in which he measures the precise loft of many “adjustable” drivers in a loft/lie machine .
      After measuring the lofts at all adjustments , he concludes that the lofts stay mostly the same , all that changes are lie and face angles !
      On a seperate tack , as much as I love Wilson stuff ( I’ve used their irons and balls for years) , I can’t see them selling drivers big-time until we see Barnes and Harrington hitting them on tour .

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      Bill

      10 years ago

      Leftienige- I agree with your take on Wilson Drivers. I like the new FG model driver and was very impressed with the new FG irons when I saw them in person. The driver looks great and the numbers were good. I think it’s probably a good enough head that if Wilson were to issue a 420-440 head to go with the 460, you might see Harrington/ Barnes/ Lawrie and other Wilson guys gaming them. From a marketing standpoint, they will NEED to make that jump to the smaller head to get serious attention from better players (IMO). The new blades weren’t there, can’t wait to see and swing those. But the new driver is the first Wilson driver I’ve gotten excited about in years.
      I saw and swung the new TM and really disliked the monstorous head. I’m sure many will have success with it and be happy but I was put off.

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      Adam

      10 years ago

      edit to above. …posting from cell voice to text….gotta stop trying to do that.

      “I wish I could think of a scenario where readers could get actively involved in testing these clubs and post results. I simply cant come up with any method that would produce anything meaningful.”

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      Adam

      10 years ago

      I wish I could think of a scenario where readers could get actively involved in testing these clubs and post results. I simply cant come up with any method that would produce meaningful results.

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      Regis

      10 years ago

      Wow- Kudos again for all the work you guys did and the data you’ve produced. I had about an 18 month layoff due to injury and last year I purchased and recycled a driver from every major brand. I’ve done my own club work for years and love tinkering with different shafts, weights, grips etc. My SS is a lot less than it used to be and will always get fit.. I personally will wait until the 14 degree SLDR comes out before hitting any new model and adjustability is an absolute must for me. Two Reasons-The club I fall in love with at a fitting is almost never the exact club that ends up getting delivered and gamed and switching out a shaft by purchasing an adaptor is the only way to go. (This also knocks out brands that don’t have readily available adaptors)
      Thanks again

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      Kevin

      10 years ago

      I hate seeing results influenced by which companies send you which shafts. Just because a company only supplies a light weight 50g shaft, that shouldn’t affect the outcome had they sent a 70g shaft that might straighten out couple drives for the better player.

      These results are ultra tight, and the differences between 2nd and 14th is often very slim.

      Any plans for future years to find a way to get your hands on the proper shaft combo for the player. At least put the player in the best stock option. I wouldn’t assume each player is fitted to high end shafts, but stock offering minimum. i’d rather play a lesser club head with a proper weighted shaft.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      We test from stock options. The unfortunate thing is that there are very few companies who offer any sort of variety. These guys know the average consumer isn’t going to bother to get poroperly fit so there’s no real incentive to offer additional options.

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      steve almo

      10 years ago

      On adjustable golf clubs: For 90% of the golfers out there..after 2 weeks in the bag..the adjustment phase is over. The 10% of golfing tinkerers will continue to adjust to course conditions but even those numbers will drop over time. Adjustable clubs are mainly another selling feature and a good one at that. It gives the retail sales people something else to talk about and is a great closer. I always correlated it to buying a sports car and handing the customer a tool kit to adjust the car to driving conditions…it’s a selling feature…but, most buyers basically want the keys and so they can just drive away. If they want adjustments they will go to a mechanic. I worked for the man who essentially invented adjustable clubs many years ago, Mr. Stan Thompson of Ginty fame, and he always related to me that it is not necessary for most golfers. Inotherwords, keep it simple stupid. Tony is correct though…adjustable clubs will be around for a long time as it is such a good selling feature.

      Cosmetics: Today it’s a fashion show. Many years ago golf clubs were displayed with the GRIP UP so the consumer could waggle the club in the aisle of the golf shop. Today all clubs are displayed with the HEAD UP so the cosmetics can catch the customers eye so they will hopefully migrate to that particular display. The better it looks…the better it will sell…most likely. The cometics are really an extention of that particular golfers personality. If it has the right ‘feel’ in the net or range…they will buy it.

      On Numbers: Simple…just go up to any golfer and ask them was their ball speed is? They will not even know what you are talking about. Using L/M numbers to sell equipment…what for? All the potential buyer wants to really know is the following: Is it longer than my current aset-up? The main reason to motivate the average player to purchase a new Driver is distance off the tee.

      http://www./geekgolf.com

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      Adam

      10 years ago

      Steve

      I have to disagree with the ” on numbers ” comment. to say that “any” golfer you ask will be unaware of their ballspeed or even that they “wouldn’t know what you are talking about ” is extremely inaccurate. There are pages and pages of comments made on this site and others over the last few months that prove otherwise It certainty depends on the kind of golfer you are but well over 75% of the people I play with are well aware of the ball speed they are getting, especially with the driver. And when you are talking about readers of mygolfpsy the percentage would be considerably higher.

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      J

      10 years ago

      I have hit teh SLDR 460 and thought it was a solid driver, The one I hit was 8 degrees and I had no problem launching it and distance seemed to be on par with my Razr Xtreme, but the whole point of a driver like that for me is to increase loft while keeping trajectory the same which I wasn’t able to do with the SLDR, I am eagerly awaiting arrival of a 430 to do some side by side on course testing of that and an Alpha, but I have hit both side by side at the range on trackman. a 10.5 430 opened to 10 and a 9 Alpha, both with the stock shafts in X. The Alpha does feel like it has the potential to be a special clubhead, I was consistently launching better and spinning about 500-600 rpm less than the 430, I was also able to hit baby fades with the Alpha while the 430 overcooked on me, but when I turned over the 430 and hit a draw, I hit some silly bombs with it that launche dgreat and spun low. I’d like to see a smaller Alpha version at 10 degrees or so eventually… I also think the 430 has some serious potential as well but it seems that it could benefit from a little bit of weight in the backend to help MOI and keep spin down on off center hits and fades, the Alpha on the other hand seems pretty much ready to rock as is, but I think you really have to focus on shaft pairing with it to get it right, which is tough because of the way Callaway is offering the club and the prices. I’ll probably end up with a hotmelted 430 and an Alpha at some point, especially if they offer a smaller head. I’ve just never cared much for 460cc heads personally. Currenly to get spin numbers and launch right I have my current D set at 7.5 degrees so I’m looking forward being able to get into a higher lofted head and these new designs seem like they’ll help with that.

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      Bill

      10 years ago

      Great follow up and looking forward to perusing the numbers. Wanted to point out one slight inaccuracy concerning the Tour Edge XCG7 Beta. Based on your findings and my lack of patience, I ordered one with the Black Tie shaft that comes in at 44.75, not 45.25 inches.
      As a side note, I concur with the testers. The sound is great off the clubface and the shorter shaft showed all but two of my drives from my round yesterday were solidly on the sweet spot.
      It took a few holes to find my swing with it as the driving range at the course I was playing couldn’t handle drivers so my first swings with the Tour Edge were during the round, which was my first time out this year (a scary combination).
      Once I found my rhythm, I was hooked. I’m playing at 6,500 ft, which is great for my ego but hard to gauge true distance. I drove the 323 yard par 4 at my course and then ended up 15 yards short of a 361 yard par 4 later in the round. I’m 55 years young so I know the distance is highly inflated due to altitude. I will have to get back to sea level in Chicago to get a more accurate read on distance but what most impressed me is that once I got my tempo into place, I was finding fairways and my 2 mishits were still long and the dispersion was MUCH tighter than the Razr Fit Xtreme from last year. The Callaway was a bomber also, but finding fairways wasn’t it’s strong point. I suspect the Aldila Trinity XS in the Cally wasn’t the right shaft for me.
      If I can still occasionally get in the 290-300 neighborhood occasionally at sea level with this accuracy, I’ll be one happy customer.
      The 3 degrees open at 8.5 degrees scared me a bit because my bad swings are over the top so I went with the 9U setting which puts it a degree upright and squares the clubface.
      I think anyone driver shopping this spring should give this one a look. I know getting a true driver fitting is the best route to go and still may get there but my impatience to get swinging got the best of me. I may go back and put the Ozik in my Cally just to see if that helps and keep it for a backup.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      Tour Edge lists stock at 44.75″, but our samples (at least with the 7m3.1) come up a solid 1/2″ longer (sole to grip). The one I used during testing measures 45.25″.

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      Bill

      10 years ago

      Thanks for clarifying, Tony…I reread how you measured (from sole of the head to the butt of the grip). I was just measuring the shaft, which is 44.75″ from butt to the screw attachment. The deep faced head brings it to 45.25″. Regardless, I totally agree with your point that shorter shafts are better for the majority of golfers. Tiger and many tour pros drivers are between 44.25″ and 44.75″. At one time Tiger played 43.5″. So I find it strange so many clubs come in between 45″ and 46″ for off the rack amateurs who are far less likely to be able to control the additional length.

      SMRT

      10 years ago

      Shaft length is easy distance so most amateurs who hit 1 or 2 fairways per round are happy to hit it farther on those shots. They do not always realize that the control benefit usually outweighs the distance benefit if you shorten your driver shaft. It took me 2 years of banana slicing hundreds of balls into the woods before I started using a 44″ driver and I am loving it. The golf company only wants to sell clubs, they do not care if we shot lower scores.

      flaglfr

      10 years ago

      Tony,
      Great insight into the “other factors” of the test. I have been able to compare the difference between the TM Sldr 430 & 460 heads with the same shaft. I used the same shaft Matrix 7M3 shaft to try both on a golf course.

      While there are no launch monitors on the course (at least not where I played) the difference in the two heads is pretty significant. The 430 head (for me) is a much more aggressive head. It hits the ball lower and rolls more than the 460, even with significant differences in loft. The 460 set at 8.5 does not seem to roll as well nor fly with the stability/predictability noted with the 430 set at 10.5. The launch looks roughly the same and neither appear to suffer from ballooning nor being too low. Matter of fact, the flight on the two with the above settings looked nearly identical. Not exactly sure why, but it brings to mind the idea that loft up is more than just a slogan. I was able to get nearly 15 more yards out of the 430 with these settings. Granted, this is anything but scientific, but sometimes beyond the data is cool too. Is this similar to what you saw in the test? I am not a big TM guy, but the 430 won my vote.

      I really would like to try the Callaway alpha, but with the 7M3, the club retails at nearly $800! Maybe when they come down with the cost it could be an option. I must say that I truly don’t understand how TM can put a 7M3 shaft in their TP series for no additional charge and Callaway cannot for a driver costing a cool c-note more. It just doesn’t make sense.

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      Jay T. Jones

      10 years ago

      In that awkward dilemma of a choice for a new driver. Been into long drive tournaments back in ’90’s. At 60 now with a new knee and want to go to scratch golf and win senior long drive too.
      BIG BERTHA Alpha will be the choice but shaft of my decision.
      Thanks for insight you guys answer what is needed

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      Chal

      10 years ago

      The Driver test is a wonderful starting point to find out what might be best for your game. As has been said ad naseum, get fit! Personally, I am a very high spin player and have never been able to get spin numbers under 2000 ever. The best I cold get was around 2500-2600 with the Razr Fit Extreme and a Tour ADDI shaft combo. I got fit and was able to get the new SLDR 430 to the 1700 spin and launch about 15-16. It is an amazing combo to watch.

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      SMRT

      10 years ago

      I am glad to see the Sinister AO do well in the test because I have 2 of them and love them. I agree about the distance with them. They are absolutely longer than anything else I have hit. I was surprised to hear that the testers thought they lack forgiveness. I did not notice that at all. I do lose distance on mishits but the ball stays in play most of the time. I can’t wait to see the data.

      Keep up the good work!

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      Adam Fonseca

      10 years ago

      Great work as always guys. Out of curiosity, did you see anything in your testing that would suggest an average amateur golfer would noticably benefit from driver adjustability? In other words, taking into account how infrequently a golfer will use his driver during a normal golf round, would that amateur player notice much of a difference between one driver setting to another?

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      I’ve had this conversation with Cobra-PUMA’s Jose Miraflor several times. When you consider the difference in consistency (or inconsistency) between a tour caliber player and the average golfer, you can see where adjustability can be of tremendous benefit.

      If you’re a guy who hits balls on the range before your round, you have the ability to judge your ball flight and make adjustments for the swing you have. I don’t think most do that…or even take advantage of adjustability much at all, but there is validity in tweaking your gear for the game you brought with you.

      When we’re doing our fittings, it’s my personal preference to have multiple lofts to choose from (ideally I like to be able to start from square), but certainly we do see tremendous differences in performance between settings, especially in the 4° models.

      For the clubs with smaller ranges, I generally start with what I think is the right loft, and then take a face angle-first approach to leveraging the adjustability. For example, we might have a guy who is hitting a certain club left. Decreasing loft (and opening the face), can sometimes get him started on a better line. That said, there are no absolutes. There are also cases when a guy is hitting the ball left, and while it might be counter-intuitive, closing the face will actually help him get back to square at impact.

      The biggest obstacle to adjustability is that the average golfer probably barely understands loft, and has no understanding of the correlation with face angle. At their 2012 Innovation Summit, Nike’s Tom Stites said something along the lines of “as golf companies we’ve done a poor job at enabling golfers to adjust their own clubs”. While I give Nike credit for a simple-enough system, the reality is most still don’t understand the nuances of each setting.

      So yes…I do think the differences are there, but I don’t believe most golfers understand how to fully take advantage of their wrenches and other moveables.

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      golfer4life

      10 years ago

      Def agree with that Tony. You would be surprised how many people bring their driver and wrench back to have it adjusted. That’s after everyone that leaves gets a thorough lesson on how to adjust and what does what. I generally get the same comment, “I would rather have you do, I don’t know what I’m doing with it”. Guess the saying is true, men hate reading directions! haha

      joro

      10 years ago

      There are a couple of points to be made here. One is that adjustability can be good,, or it can be bad.. The vast majority of Golfers have no idea what they are doing and either fiddle around or leave it alone, which in either case does not usually help. Some clubs have 5 million settings and what to do. People DO NOT KNOW, and what would happen if I called up a manufacturer and asked if I can come in to the fitting center and have my club adjusted for ME? They would send me to a fitter who doesn’t have a clue, nothing gained but they sold a club. Cobra is not a difficult adjustment like some with so many combos it is mind blowing, but still, proper adjustment can be quite a wake up.

      Then there is the biggest factor,, the shaft. If you do not have the proper shaft, it is all for naught, or like shoveling Sand against the tide. The days of science are here but unfortunately although club makers have made adjustments practical, it has not near reached the potential that there is, and what will it take? The fact is manufacturers are makeing great clubs with great potential, but offer no way to take advantage of it other than here is a wrench, have fun.

      There is more, but this is enough rambling. Hey Jose.

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