The New Ben Hogan: Does This Hawk Have Wings?
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The New Ben Hogan: Does This Hawk Have Wings?

The New Ben Hogan: Does This Hawk Have Wings?
“The most important shot in golf is the next one.” – Ben Hogan, aka “The Hawk”

Written By: John Barba

Ben Hogan was one part Zen Master and two parts ball striker during his life. “The Hawk” left us in 1997, and the legendary company that bore his name went to Golf Purgatory in 2008. But 2015 marks the return of the Ben Hogan Equipment Company, courtesy of Terry Koehler, Eidelon and SCOR.

Hogan’s “next shot” is finally here.  Will it find the green?

“We’ll see…”

So What’s In A Name?

“Your name is the most important thing you own. Don’t ever do anything to disgrace or cheapen it” – Ben Hogan

Ben Hogan Equipment Company

Golf marketing today is, and with a little digging you’ll find always has been, all about distance. The new Ben Hogan is taking a different, more “Hawk-like” approach with its brand message:                 

Precision is back.

“When Mr. Hogan started his company (in 1953), it was with the simple statement that he thought he could build a better golf club,” says Koehler. “That drives us as well. This isn’t about ‘nostalgia,” but rather about building better golf clubs for those who share our ideals that golf is a game of accuracy. If you play the game, you want to hit better shots more often.”

Sounds great, but is resurrecting a dead, albeit iconic, brand an act of supreme confidence and market insight or one of incredible folly?

And we’re not talking table stakes here, either. The popular SCOR brand is gone and Koehler and crew are all-in, betting all their chips on a pair of Hogan’s.

The Legacy Continues…Finally

If you’ve been paying attention even just a little over the past year, you know the Koehler/SCOR/Hogan story, but for the sake of the narrative here’s a quick rehash:

  • 2003: Callaway buys Hogan & Top-Flite brands out of bankruptcy
  • 2008: Callaway mothballs the Hogan club brand
  • 2012: Perry Ellis buys the Hogan brand
  • 2014: Koehler contracts with Perry Ellis to reintroduce Hogan branded equipment
  • 2015: Fort Worth 15 irons and TK 15 wedges debut at the PGA show

To say launching a new equipment line in the current golf climate is risky is like saying Mr. Hogan could hit the ball a little.

“This is not just some ‘brand’ we are dealing with here. This is a real man’s legacy.  We take that very seriously. The opportunity is enormous, and the challenge rather daunting.  Not because of market share or financial gain, but because of who Mr. Hogan was to so many, and to us.” – Terry Koehler, Ben Hogan Equipment Company

So what do we make of the new Hogan irons and wedges? For starters, they’re 1025 forged carbon steel and the design looks like a cross between SCOR’s wedges and the last great Hogan blade, the 1999 Apex.

Ben Hogan Forged Iron

The look is straightforward and classic. After all, Hogan himself said “I don’t like the glamour, I just like the game.” No glamour here – just a clean, simple blade, but with plenty of SCOR built in.

Where Have All The Numbers Gone?

A shot that goes in the cup is pure luck, but a shot to within two feet of the flag is skill” – Ben Hogan

Hogan touts “progressive weighting” through the set, stating a “matched set of irons shouldn’t really match at all.” Each iron in the set looks slightly different from the other. In Hogan-speak, each iron is uniquely shaped and weighted so that “the long irons are forgiving, mid irons are accurate and the scoring clubs are dart-throwers.”

Ben Hogan Loft Specific Weighting 1Ben Hogan Loft Specific Weighting 2Ben Hogan Loft Specific Weighting 3

But if you’re looking for the 7-iron, you’ll be disappointed.

There are no 7-irons. Or 6-irons.  Or 4-, 5-, 8- or 9-irons either.  There are no iron numbers on the soles at all, just lofts.

What in the name of Henny Bogan is going on here?

“We saw it [lofts instead of iron numbers] as the only way to bring real precision back to the irons category,” says Koehler. “Haven’t the numbers on irons been rendered relatively meaningless to the golfer, when the loft of the ‘six-iron’, for example, in the 2015 product lines range from 34 degrees all the way down to 27, with lengths also varying by an inch or more?

“I think Mr. Hogan would see this strengthening of lofts rather puzzling. To him, it was always about precision, the ability to place the ball where you want it, and get it there in the right manner.”

#RidonkuPrecise or McLean Deluxe?

“Carefully replace that divot, son. I plan to be here every round” – Ben Hogan (to his caddy during a practice round at Merion, 1950)

So what we’re talking about here is 44 different clubs in the offering, for every loft from 20* all the way to 63*.

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44 unique clubs.

Just how precise do you have to be?

“With everyone trying to make the longest-hitting six-iron, lofts have been compressed at the long end of the set, and widened at the short end,” Koehler says. “The ‘typical’ set of irons has four clubs to cover lofts from 21-30 degrees, and only three from 35-45 degrees. So the golfer – whether a tour pro or recreational player – has less than at least twice the distance difference between his short irons as with the longer irons. I cannot find a way to make sense of that, if your goal is to play precision golf.”

The loft concept is intriguing, but it’s also polarizing. A friend for whom I have great respect actually said the following:

“I know I carry my 7-iron 160. What am I supposed to do with these? Learn a whole new number?”

Ummm, yeah.

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“It’s no more confusing than any new set of irons,” Koehler says. “Your new lofts will be different than your old ones, so you have to learn a whole new distance chart regardless, but that only takes a few rounds. With our approach, you are simply orienting a distance to a loft number, rather than a ‘6’ or ‘8.’”

Does today’s golfer really want more precision than distance? Maybe McDonald’s can give us some perspective.

Remember the McLean Deluxe? McDonald’s introduced it years ago after focus groups claimed they’d prefer – and pay for – a “healthier alternative.”

mclean deluxe

The McLean Deluxe failed miserably for two simple reasons – people who eat at McDonald’s don’t go there for “healthier alternatives,” and people who want “healthier alternatives” don’t eat at McDonald’s.

Distance sells. It’s sexy, it’s an easy message for marketing departments to deliver and an easy message for the average golfer to absorb.

“Precision” is like eating your vegetables: you know it’s good for you, but pizza and cake are way, way more fun. For the “precision” message to resonate, Hogan will need to target a very specific niche with a very specific – and logical – message.

“Look at it this way, Mr. Hogan had seven clubs in his bag that went less than 160 yards.  The modern tour player has only three or four. But tour players hit almost 2/3 of their approach shots with an eight iron or less. Our research indicates most recreational players do as well. Why would anyone want only 1/3 of their clubs for 2/3 of their shots?” – Terry Koehler, Ben Hogan Equipment Company

Lofts over numbers is part of the precision message and, from a marketing perspective, is a sound point of differentiation only if it matters to the intended audience. If you’re savvy enough to realize Company A’s irons are two-clubs longer largely due to jacked-up lofts, then Hogan is betting you’re savvy enough to realize the club number itself is meaningless.

Will it resonate? We’ll see…

Go Pro Or Don’t Go At All…

You’re probably anxious to give these new Hogan’s a whack or two. You should be. They’re a pretty good feeling iron.

You might want to cool your jets a bit, though.

Hogan’s won’t be in Dicks, Golf Galaxy or Golfsmith. The plan is to sell through pro’s and qualified fitters only.

“We’ve had tremendous interest from the golf professional and retail network,” says Koehler. “We are now building that network, but it will take time to get hundreds or thousands of Ben Hogan facilities in place. We’ll begin shipping demos to our accounts in late March, and will go as fast as we can.”

Ben Hogan Irons 2

A limitation of the SCOR line was the inability to actually demo the clubs. With a per-club price tag of $149 ($169 for graphite), the Hogan folks know it’s not reasonable to expect a golfer to plunk down that kind of cash without a proper demo and fitting.

“We’ll be providing full sets of demos in various shafts to our accounts”, says Koehler . “We believe a golfer should be able to hit long irons, mid irons, short irons and wedges before they pull the trigger. It’s not realistic, in our opinion, that you can hit the six-iron only and know if that set of irons is for you.”

If you can’t find a Hogan fitter, there’s an online fitting option called “HoganFit.”

HoganFit was live very briefly last month before being shut down.  It just went live again last week and if you’re going to use it, you better do your homework.

It asks your current set makeup from longest fairway wood to shortest wedge, and how far you hit the clubs at both the top and bottom end of the bag. It also asks about the courses you typically play and how many approach shots you hit from 150 yards in.

From all this, HoganFit tells you what loft mix you’ll need, focusing on giving you more options the closer you get to the hole.

Hogan hopes to start shipping clubs to consumers sometime in April while they continue to build a network of fitters and pro’s.

Ben Hogan in action

The Zen Master Says…

“This is a game of misses. The guy who misses the best is going to win” – Ben Hogan

So, would Mr. Hogan be happy with the latest incarnation of his namesake?  Will it be a hit or a miss?

“We’ll see…”

It’s easy to be cynical in the 2015 Wide World of Golf Equipment. Billion dollar conglomerates churning out widgets and judging success by market share and quarterly profits dominate the landscape.  This year’s stuff dwarfs last year’s stuff, and all the distance you want is only $400 dollars away.

So when Terry Koehler says bringing the Hogan brand back is a “labor of love,” how do you react? Do you snicker and say “yeah, right?” Aren’t these just SCOR’s idea of a full set of irons with some old guy’s name on them? What sort of feeling, if any, does the name Hogan elicit?

Koehler is letting it all ride on the hopes the Hogan name still means something to the serious golfer. He’s hoping the message of “precision” will trump “2 clubs longer,” “outrageous speed” and #misshitshappen, at least enough to carve out a profitable niche.  It’s a bold gamble and from a marketing standpoint, it’s not the simplest of messages.

It has to be delivered in just the right way to an audience willing to listen and to “eat their vegetables.”  Distance, after all, is the chicken fried steak of golf marketing.  “Precision” is more like kale, loaded with Vitamins K and C, beta-carotenes, luteins and calcium.

It’s good for you, but it’s still kale.

Kale

Did you know kale has been shown to decrease dietary fat absorption, block cancer cell growth and lower cholesterol?

Does that make kale taste just a little better?

Hogan is banking on at least a segment of the golfing market being willing to eat their vegetables. It does help significantly that the Hogan’s are among the sweetest feeling clubs I personally hit at the PGA Demo Day.

Kinda like putting a big ol’ glob of “buttah” on that kale of yours.

Reasonable Expectations

ben-hogan-3Going to market through pro’s and fitters instead of big-box retail is smart, especially when targeting the type of golfer likely to be receptive to the precision message.  Also in Hogan’s favor are SCOR’s reputation, the Hogan “buzz,” and the clubs themselves which, by all accounts, perform.

It’s foolish for anyone to compare Hogan’s relative success to that of TaylorMade, Callaway, Nike or Ping. The “Big Four” play a completely different market share game. The Hogan venture requires its own lens:  Can a successful niche wedge-maker establish a beachhead and carve out a profitable niche in a crazy, crowded marketplace?

We’ll see.

Or, in the words of the Hawk himself:

“The ultimate judge of your swing is the flight of the ball.”

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      john

      8 years ago

      When I heard they were coming out, I just hoped that they would not continue that double muscle back design intro’d by Ben decades ago. I’ve always thought it was a poor design.

      I thought this new company would surely start over and not continue a visually confusing image and surely they would produce a club that’s clean and minimal. LESS is MORE TERRY!
      I say this with all my heart since the name Ben Hogan means as much to me as you. Do it over, clean and void of distractions……….and watch the sales chart go up!

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      David

      9 years ago

      The golf philosophy of Ben Hogan was the old school thinking that you hit the shot that was required. It was NOT about hitting a 7 or 4 or 9 iron a certain distance. Rather, it was about hitting the club you chose for whatever the shot required. “Old school” thinking invited creativity because golfers had to be creative with the conditions of the courses. That said, while I don’t particularly care what the number on the bottom of my club says, I’m sure most golfers would appreciate knowing roughly how far they can hit each club.

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      Kevin

      9 years ago

      Great write up. Will definitely demo them when available. Saw them at the PGA Show and absolutely gorgeous

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      Mark Cintula

      9 years ago

      Pulled the trigger, bought the Hogan irons-Love’em, they’re a perfect compliment to my SCOR wedges

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      Mark

      8 years ago

      Mark-
      I’m serious of your linitial thoughts and review now that you’ve had whole season plying these irons. May I ask, what is your handicap your overall game. I am contemplating these irons for myself but some reviews say they are playable while others say stay away unless you’re low handicap, under 6-7.
      Just curious, looking for some general input from people playing news, and not just some low single digits

      Thanks,
      Mark

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      Don

      9 years ago

      I am a high handicapper (25) and have 5 Scor wedges in my bag (44, 48,52,56,60). I am quite accurate once I get to use my Scor wedges, but not so great until then! :) I will be getting these Hogans for sure.

      BTW, having the loft on the sole of the club so you can select the right one out of your bag is a no brainer.

      [ BTW – my handicap is coming down, I’ve only been playing for a year and a half and I’m not a young guy ]

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      J.A. Animal

      9 years ago

      “Don’t ever do anything to disgrace or cheapen it.”

      Uhm…..like outsource the heads to China?

      LMAO! They’re now asking for $30 so they can ship you a 2-club set for trial. So I’m guessing that country club distribution concept went flop pretty quick. Sad to see this great name being trashed so soundly.

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      Scott

      9 years ago

      I wish them well also and am very intrigued by the new irons. I have recently been invited to receive a three iron ( long,mid,short) demo set for thirty days. I called this morning and can’t wait until next week when they show up. I will let you know how it goes

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      Jim

      9 years ago

      These irons speak volumes to the purist among us. Obviously not for everyone.
      Companies approach a breath of fresh air and personally believe they’re heading in wonderful direction. SCOR Golf was/is huge hit among certain segment of golfers. Now carrying forward with Hogan’s principled approach to iron play is exciting.
      I wish the company great success.

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      William

      9 years ago

      AND… One more thing… If you don’t understand the W5 of Mr Ben Hogans thinking on golf overall… Then you shouldn’t even be thinking about buying OR “Beaking off” about a product that Way outclasses you… Remember in your criticisms… “Wise people have something to say” while the rest just “have to say something” :))

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      William

      9 years ago

      I am both intrigued and concerned about the new way of measuring clubs by loft instead of the traditional means (1-9 etc), but I look at it this way… When we switched over to the metric system North of the border up here it did cause some confusion but in the long run it was more effective and easier to measure, especially if you learn it from the get “go”.The times are a changing so get on the bus! That doesn’t mean you have to forget the old system, just use it in conjunction with the new… I’ll explain what I mean… I remember many times thinking “I wish I had a club that was half ways between two clubs to get the right shot” ! This would allow you to avoid altering your shot as a softer or stiffer swing, instead you could utilize the correct loft AND keep your swing the same. There will be a period of adjustment for everyone! The length of that time will be based on your age, attitude towards change, and willingness to take the chance to improve your game… Cuz that’s what it’s all about isn’t it!!!??? I am close to 70yrs old and have been using Hogan clubs since I was about 15; I was devastated when Callaway purchased Ben Hogan just to get the old school patents… And then… Discontinue production and “86” the rest, a rather Greasy move to say the least… But I guess that’s BIG BIZ!!! I am thrilled to see the rebirth of the product! And will be looking at retiring my current set and going with the new system. There are some things that should not die, or, even be shelved…Good luck in your venture gentlemen.

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      Bill

      9 years ago

      Hope to meet someone some that have been fitted and received the new irons. Their look of extreme satisfaction will be a true refllection of the new clubs.

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      Bruce

      9 years ago

      Hanging out when the lefties come out and the international courior

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      Newman

      9 years ago

      To Scary Larry,
      I did the hoganfit on benhogangolf.com and it seems to me that they offer lefty.

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      BR

      9 years ago

      Good article/write up. I am so glad that Hogan leadership is attempting to educate interested golfers through fittings and bucking the system regarding club loft vs generic numbering. The distance race is/has been out of hand and nearly impossible to compare/contrast brands on level playing field. For decades the manufacturers have been changing the specs in the name of technology (some viable, most snake oil) to justify their models. IF new Hogan company can get local fitters to fit accurately and efficiently I think this can work. Would love follow up article several months after sales begin to see how the Hogan fitting system works? Maybe Hogan will fit some of the MGS test team and you guys can report to us the results?

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      Christopher

      9 years ago

      I would have liked the option to custom stamp whatever I wanted on the bottom of the club. Si instead of 24* I can out 4i or even something silly like “Fairway Finder”

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      Larry P.

      9 years ago

      I currently have three SCOR wedges and plan to and another. I use the SCOR 42 as my pitching wedge 120~125 yds in warm weather. Currently us Callaway 7, 8, and 9 Apex irons. The 9 goes 130~135, etc. I really love the feel, consistency and Forgivness of the SCOR irons. I will definitely consider the Hogan 30, 34 and 38 to replace my 7, 8, and 9 irons.

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      Blade

      9 years ago

      First off, John, great job on this!

      These designs are growing on me. I wasn’t crazy about them the first time I saw them, but I’m really starting to appreciate them the more pictures I see.

      Their concept of designing irons for accuracy over distance is what I have argued about on more than one occasion, here and in other conversations. http://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/8262-distance-irons/?fromsearch=1

      I laugh my head off when I hear someone who can’t break 100 bragging about their “length”. It’s hilarious. If they’re shooting 105+, obviously 70-80% of their shots are miss-hits. Oh, but every once in a while they catch one just right and hit a 300 yd drive or hit a 6 iron 200 yds! Wow. Doesn’t matter that one six iron goes way left and the next goes way right. They are “long”. Totally missing the point of the game. Length is great if it helps you score. Occasional length from lucky shots that most of the time have no control is pointless and gets you in more trouble.

      Those types will probably always have that mentality and the concept of these irons with lofts rather than iron numbers on the sole will forever be lost on them for the most part. But for guys with a little more thought process behind their decisions, this concept is great!

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      Rod_CCCGOLFUSA

      9 years ago

      I had a look at the new Hogan line at the PGA Show demo day. The Scor guys have brought the same commitment to precision, accuracy, and reliability to Hogan irons that they put into their wedges. I fitted and sold their wedges and the feedback from low and mid-handicap golfers was universally positive. The Hogans should do well in the same demographic, but it will be a challenge to compete with the distribution network that Titleist and Mizzuno have allready established (not to mention the PGA tour presence). I hope Hogan makes it.

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      D.S. Graybeal

      9 years ago

      There are X amount of golf junkies willing to pay a high price and have something few others have. Hogan will sell a few hundred sets annually and if that’s enough to keep them in business then good luck to them.

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      William Beal

      9 years ago

      I don’t know what the sales numbers were for the SCOR wedges, but they were apparently high enough to get the company to this point. I suspect they’re in it for the long haul, with fitters and pros whose customers are already bagging the SCOR wedges as their starting point.

      As Chris C pointed out above, Tom Wishon has already noted that standard loft gappings aren’t necessarily the best setup for many (maybe most) golfers and providing the ability to precisely determine the specific lofts you require without after-market bending targets a niche market, but a niche that likely has influence on other golfers.

      I agree the online fitting tool is limited, but unless you REALLY know your existing setup in detail and what you want out of your clubs, very few people will purchase these clubs online, at least until there’s enough sets on the market that more people have a chance to demo them before purchase.

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      Bob Kendall

      9 years ago

      I sincerely hope the Hogan line does well. However, the statement that only green grass accounts and “qualified fitters” will be signed as accounts is a direct insult to those of us who work at large retail chains and are equally or more qualified. I have 35 years of industry experience and am certified by Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Seemore, Taylor Made, Swing Labs, and Foresight among others. To imply that I and my equally trained peers are not knowledgeable enough to fit a set of irons using their system is laughable.

      That said, I hope they do well but their strategy is basically ignoring a huge segment of the market that has no consistent green grass affiliation. This is not the 1950s and 1960s.

      Best regards,

      Bob
      .

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      John Barba

      9 years ago

      Hi Bob — I’m certain Hogan means no disrespect to anyone. They’re starting up an irons line and are mapping out a strategy, it would seem, for steady, manageable growth. From my conversations with Hogan people, they’re focusing on green-grass and dedicated fitters for now, in order to build a network to get started. They’re building a company more and less from scratch and are taking it one step at a time. It’s going to be a while from a production standpoint before they can support broader distribution

      I have learned since this blog was first published that Hogan did receive lots of interest from all the major retailers at the PGA show and are in discussions with several of them. Where will it all lead? Again, as the Zen Master says, “we’ll see…”

      I can’t imagine they’d imply that just because you work for a big box retailer that you’re no way qualified to fit their products – your certifications speak for themselves, after all. My sense is they’re taking it one step at a time and working a plan. After all, you can’t run before you can walk, right?

      Hope this helps – but I’m certain they meant you no disrespect!

      JMB

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      Jacques Lemoyne

      9 years ago

      Bob,

      Have you taken any test for a certification(that you may fail)? I am referring to the PCS Class A test for a club maker or the ICG Fully Certified exam or the AGCP ….. Certifications that are recognized by the USGA and the PGA. Sounds to me, that you just get brain washed by the sales reps.

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      Golf Lab

      9 years ago

      There is a flaw in their fitting system. We had 4 different golfers go through the Hogan on-line fitting process. The recommendations on the clubs looked good until we saw that some of the higher lofted irons had the same length, but with on 4 degrees loft difference. How you can get the yardage gaps with the same length and only 4 degrees loft difference?

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      Connor

      9 years ago

      It’s a bummer to see Hogan and Wilson making a comeback, generating a ton of interest, yet charging huge numbers for their products. $149/club is very steep.

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      Jacques Lemoyne

      9 years ago

      DICK’S may have the price range you are looking for. Consistent shots come from clubs with well thought out designs. I have the SCOR wedges and could not believe how easy and consistent they are …. and kicked my self for not adding the SCOR wedges to my bag earlier.
      Hogan clubs are Ferrari caliber irons, if you want the Ford or Chevy quality … go to DICK’S.

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      Revkev

      9 years ago

      I’ve been bagging at least two SCORs for three years at the bottom end of my bag and love them. I know that the loft numbering would take some time to get used to but the concept makes sense. Anyway if someone wants distance bragging rights just call your 26 the 9 iron. Who’s going to know?

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      Nevin

      9 years ago

      These really look great and I am looking forward to hitting them. I have Scor wedges in my bag so I have some idea how they will feel. I don’t see the lack of iron numbering to be an issue at all. I really love my Callaway Apex irons, but the distance gap (15 yards) between the short irons is a bit a problem. Being able to adjust things to get more clubs in the scoring zone is a good idea.

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      FTWPhil

      9 years ago

      Not a good system for a retailer looking to stock the product. I understand the thought process, but 27 irons in a set is not going on display.

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      John Barba

      9 years ago

      Don’t believe they’ll be going to the traditional retail route – instead focusing on selling through fitters and golf pros, so displays shouldn’t be required.

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      Scott

      9 years ago

      I have flowed this story for nearly as long as it has been publushed. I like the lift idea. I can think in different terms. No big deal. But the heads are not what I envisooned at all. I want to see and hit them before I make a real judgement call.
      My 845s have the lofts stamped into the face. I do t really see a difference. I like my long irons as well as my short and mid, but now I get an opportunity to fine tune and choose my gapping. I love that.

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      Matt A

      9 years ago

      Regardless of how good the actual irons turn out to be the lofts on the bottom are not pleasing to the eye and I could care less that my playing partner understands my loft progressing on my clubs. Why can’t I just order a 7i with 37° of loft why does it have to say 37° on it when 7 tells me which club I’m pulling; one word for that marketing gimmick – “clunky”.

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      Chris C

      9 years ago

      I have jumped off the high board and plunked down my $500.00 reservation down payment. Everything is contingent on having the clubs shafted with Recoil 95s. At present, the only “stock” graphite being mentioned is the Recoil 600 series but I have been assured that I can have the proposed set with the 95s. Nostalgia aside, I am excited by the prospect of having a properly gapped set. I plan on starting my set with a 25degree “4” iron, dropping down 5degrees to a 30degree “5” iron ( something espoused by Tom Wishon ) and then proceeding in 4degree increments to a 58degree wedge. I also intend to Have the “4” iron built to no more than 38 inches. In so far as I will be carrying those clubs in my Jones bag, I can already envision the decades rewinding off of my 61 year old body – wait – that’s the nostalgia. The second principle reason for acquiring the new Hogan’s is the high bounce V-sole being used in both the iron and wedge line. I love my high bounce Edel wedges and also loved the feel of the Srixon 745s I was able to demo. The Hogan’s appear to capture the best of both aspects of their soles.

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      Jeff

      9 years ago

      I have always liked the Hogan name, the forged iron look, but for most of the time, needed the forgiveness of cavity back. Now that I am playing to a 7, I would like to have forged mid/short irons.

      I don’t get the argument for distance in the irons. Sure, I want to hit my driver 250-270 consistently, my 3 wood 220-230, then after that, I want precision and nice even 12-15 yard gapping from my 3 hybrid at 205 to my 60 degree wedge at 70 yds. I don’t care if I hit my 7 iron 165 yds, I want to hit it 10 feet from the hole. I think there are many like minds out there that will like this concept.

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      Mark

      9 years ago

      Excellent write up. After trying a 59° Scor wedge I got on eBay I immediately bought a 55, 50 & 46 to go with it. They are by far the best wedges I’ve ever played. I am very intrigued by the Hogan irons as it looks like they are using some of the same technology as the Scor wedges. I will definitely be looking to demo them this year some time.

      I have no problem with lofts instead of numbers on the clubs and think it’s rather hilarious that people are upset by this. If you’re used to a 7-iron going 150 then choose the loft (34, 35, 36?) that goes 150. The concept the Hogan company has instituted to help players put together a set of irons makes perfect sense. There are players who will understand the idea and gravitate toward the Hogan irons. Hopefully they live up to their billing!

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      Edward

      9 years ago

      I think the target market might be bigger than you think. I’m new to golf (only about a year in) and even I realized the current iron marketing strategy is dumb. “Ok so I bought a set of 4-AW irons but now I need to buy a 52, 56, and 60 wedge because the AW is only 48degrees?…and I can’t hit the 4 or 5 iron and my carry on my 6 isn’t any farther than my 7 (because I’m new and inconsistent) so now I need to buy some hybrids as well?” I hope this starts a trend and even beginner level clubs are sold separately by loft because the current way of doing things is dumb.

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      snowman

      9 years ago

      I played Hogan from the 70’s into the early 2000’s. Sadly, I predict these will flop or be a very small niche market. The Heads look a little odd to me and lofts rather than iron numbers…. Not Traditional; too Quirky for a big market… Not sure how many they need to sell to be successful. Hopefully it is a small number. good luck to them; I love that Ben Hogan script logo/signature.

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      markb

      9 years ago

      I own 5 Scor wedges and I’m looking to pick up a Hogan 35, 31 and 27 (no more referring to irons by their numbers for me). I hope the company does well and the new clubs are everything an aging single digit capper like me could ask for, but the niche they are aiming for is small and crowded. I wish them well.

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      John Muir

      9 years ago

      Great article. I don’t care which loft # is on the sole, those are beautiful club heads. I wonder if the individual loft marketing is one of those solutions looking for a problem, though. There is a LOT of value in “you hit your 9 iron 150 yards?” My friend that is a avid golf equipment junkie has had his name in for a set of these for some time now and I’m excited to see/hit them. I saved an old set of forged Hogans for my son so I’m a serious target customer. I hope they’re successful with this great brand.
      John

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      Shane

      9 years ago

      There is indeed value in knowing how far you hit a 9-iron, as with every club in your bag, and that works very well in the closed ecosystem of your own bag. However, if you go and hit a new 9 iron, or borrow a set, or even compare how far you hit your 9-iron against a friend, you effectively have no idea what you are really hitting, or comparing. Your 9-iron could be 43*, the new one could be 39*, the one you borrow could be 44* and your mates might be 41*. If they are all labelled 9-iron, you could be thinking:
      – that new club is awesome because it goes 10 yards further
      – I wonder why I keep coming up short with this borrowed 9-iron
      – its odd that my friend and I hit the 9-iron the same distance, though I out drive him all the time.

      Ultimately, once you get a set of clubs, and learn what they all do, it doesn’t matter what’s written on them so long as your not intending comparing them to others.

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      Shane

      9 years ago

      This is so great. For years it has shitted me that the number on an iron masked the actual loft of a club. I understand it is meant to make it simple to understand, but this change stops unscrupulous club manufacturers being able systematically jack up(down) lofts, and hide that fact behind the “number”. I really hope this trend continues to bigger club manufacturers.

      Now all we have to do is ask the driver companies to make drivers with actual loft specified on the driver and we can all be happy that the equipment we are using is what we expect it to be.

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      RON

      9 years ago

      why have the degree on bottom of club it does absolutely nothing but cause confusion when u reach fr a 7 iron so stupid and they are doing this just to make it look custom, give me a break. These clubs will feel no better than a set of AP2s.

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      Joe

      9 years ago

      I am fully in on the ben hogan lineup. I am a scor wedge user. I gave up my vokeys for scor and have not looked back. I’m giving up my AP2 for the Hogans and I’m not thinking twice about it.

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      Josh

      9 years ago

      Ron, it actually seems to make complete sense if you read the article. The reason for the lofts on the club is that I can now decide exactly which lofts I want in my bag – as opposed to the manufacturer telling me what loft I have. As pointed out earlier, how you hit the ball has a huge impact on actual loft so this will allow players looking for precision to find that.

      As for how they’ll feel, how on Earth could you make that declaration? Have you hit them? It seems that because these clubs don’t fit your mindset (thereby taking you out of their intended demographic) you find them “stupid”. Interesting way to go through life…

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      Tom Duckworth

      9 years ago

      Great idea I like how it takes away the whole” I can hit my 6 iron….so far” I don’t think someone that can hit their irons well is looking for distance. They want to hit the same distance time after time. Having the loft number on the head takes away all that ego BS.
      Golf MD in Overland Park, Kansas sells SCOR wedges so ll bet they will carry the Hogan clubs. They also do Miura so it should be interesting to test them side by side.

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      John Barba

      9 years ago

      Was whining to my teaching pro once about 3 years ago – said I wasn’t happy with my PW distance. He looked at me and said, “you have a 9-iron, don’t you? I know you do – I sold you the set!”

      Some of us need a 2×4 upside the head to learn….;-)

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      andrew

      9 years ago

      am i to understand that scor clubs are no longer available?

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      That is correct. Once existing inventory is gone, they’re gone. That said, I suspect you’ll find that the Ben Hogan TK wedges are the worthy evolution of the SCOR 4161 lineup.

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      Matt

      9 years ago

      I hit these this weekend and was fairly disappointed. Really wanted to like them, but they didn’t feel like anything special to me. Shaft options aren’t great, head shape was strange, and again the feel just wasn’t anything special. I’d much rather have any set of Mizzys.

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      John Barba

      9 years ago

      Didn’t know they had any demo sets out yet — from what they told me they haven’t sent anything out to fitters, and only a few reviewers have been able to get their hands on them. Where did you get to try them?

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      Matt

      9 years ago

      I live in Fort Worth and know some people at my club who work for Hogan.

      Jimmy O

      9 years ago

      I think they’ll do well with a niche sector of golfers. They know their audience and are introducing it to them in a way they appreciate (custom fitting). Gear heads know most iron lofts are jacked already and it’s no wonder you’re hitting a “6 iron” so far. Like the article mentions, it’s like knowing how many calories are in a burger or latte. Chances are, you’re going to get it anyway. But there might be a small portion of consumers that are open to this “new” concept. I only say “new” since wedges have had individual loft designations for quite some time. It’s about time and I for one am glad it’s happening.

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      Jason M

      9 years ago

      I get your point that distance sells and precision may not but anyone that is looking at players clubs knows the difference, at least they should. I HOPE this will be like the preacher selling to the choir

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      John Barba

      9 years ago

      Hi Jason — I think the precision message is a solid one and will be successful with the intended audience, provided it’s delivered effectively. So far that seems to be the case. And as I mentioned, it really helps that the Hogans are a really sweet feeling iron.

      They have the product and they’ve clearly identified the target audience and a message they think will resonate with that audience. Now it’s blocking and tackling once the whistle blows…

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      Mike

      9 years ago

      I love everything about these aside from the fact that I probably won’t be able to hit them…

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      Scary Larry

      9 years ago

      no left handed options………..sometimes i hate being a lefty

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      Jeremy

      9 years ago

      They will be available in LH as well.

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      P.M.

      9 years ago

      Are you sure or it’s speculation?

      John Barba

      9 years ago

      Direct from Hogan – they will definitely be offering left-handed clubs, but right now they have no specific time-table. They’re focusing on the right handed offering at the moment. Sorry lefties – it’ll be a wait, just know idea how long.

      Large chris

      9 years ago

      I think what they are doing is great, they deserve some success. I doubt this is going to be a profitable commercial venture, but for the lucky few who can get fitted AND are good enough to appreciate the quality, I’m sure they will love these clubs.

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      Kenny B

      9 years ago

      I love my 5 SCOR wedges, and I love the looks of these Hogan irons. However, I am worried that there will be a difference in feeling between the Hogans and SCORs because the shaft is not the same. I have to hit my 42 SCOR along side the 38 Hogan and then I will decide.

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      Jacques Lemoyne

      9 years ago

      I have been told that the heads will be available as components from your local certified/authorized clubmaker. Then, the clubs can be built with the shaft of your choice.

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      Mike H

      9 years ago

      Cannot wait to try these irons. Love the ability to customize each and every loft. I never understood why the general public has always had such a hard time with lofts. A three iron isn’t a three iron to everyone. If I have a greater shaft tilt than you, a three iron is going to be closer to a two iron for me, as the face will be more shut down. These irons are for the player who truly understands the game of golf. I think this was a great way for Hogan to reenter the market. There was no way they could jump back in and take on the giants with mass produced, middle of the road irons. They are coming back in with the best of the best and targeting the golfers who truly appreciate the complexity of the game. Not only does it fit well with the Hogan brand image, it looks like they are producing some pretty incredible clubs. Can’t wait to get my hands on them

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      bucky wall

      9 years ago

      Innovative thinking like this is what made ‘merica great.

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      Nick

      9 years ago

      I am very interested in trying these but they’re not selling beyond the States for the moment, I gather. Check out Rick Shiels PGA review on YouTube to show how they took his words away from him.

      Reply

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