FIRST LOOK – 2015 Taylormade RSi Irons
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FIRST LOOK – 2015 Taylormade RSi Irons

FIRST LOOK – 2015 Taylormade RSi Irons

Written By: Tony Covey

TaylorMade’s summer of hibernation has come to an end. The company is kicking off fall with the announcement of 3 new irons – all part of a new family of products called RSi.

At the risk of spoiling the surprise, the R in RSi is simply a nod to TaylorMade’s R-series (this whole SLDR thing is dead), while the Si piece is short for slotted irons, and so yes…all the 3 new models feature slots in the long an middle irons.

Oh, but wait, there is definitely more. All 3 sets feature what TaylorMade is billing as revolutionary Face Slot Technology. It wasn’t enough for TaylorMade to carve slots into the sole of the irons, it’s now letting its goo bleed all the way to the face.

The new irons are unquestionably Slot-IER.

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-25

Two years from now TaylorMade won’t have any faces left to speak of. Will all just be swinging giant slots.

Before we get into some of the actual details of the RSi let’s take a moment to realign ourselves with what will become the 2015 TaylorMade lineup.

  • RSi 1 replaces SpeedBlade
  • RSi 2 replaces SLDR Iron
  • RSi TP replaces Tour Preferred MC
  • Tour Preferred CB goes away
  • Tour Preferred MB remains in the lineup.

Got it? Good.

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-4

Assuming no additional surprises, that leaves TaylorMade with 4 distinct offerings in their revitalized iron lineup. I’ll post specs of the new stuff a little further down, but you already know how this is going to shake out.

RSi 1 sits somewhere between Game Improvement and Super Game Improvement.

RSi2, like SLDR before it is a Game Improvement iron with some characteristics that will appeal to better players.

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As the replacement for the MCs, the RSi TP (yes…Tour Preferred is gone, TP is back – including the badge) is a better player/Tour Cavity Back.

MB is a damn blade, and you probably shouldn’t even look at it.

Speed Pocket Evolved

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Because nearly everything must evolve…or at least look like it has evolved, TaylorMade is claiming improved Speed Pocket performance with the new designs. Basically, we’re talking about improved ball speed on shots below center and a general increase in launch angle and ball speed on everything else.

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And here’s your fine print:
*distance claim based on 4-iron test data. RSi 1 Irons designed with a COR up to the USGA limit. Due to manufacturing tolerances, not all irons will reach the maximum.

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-10

So maybe your irons will reach the USGA limit…maybe they won’t. Luck of the draw folks.

Couple the now familiar Speed Pocket with the Face Slot Technology (designed to protect ball speed on heel/toe misses), and well, you won’t be shocked to learn that TaylorMade is claiming a larger sweetspot with more forgiveness heel, toe, and low on the face.

That forgiveness theme is echoed in the company’s Nobody’s Perfect / Mishits Happen campaign (www.mis-hitshappen.com), and the requisite Social Media push (#MisHitsHappen).

Finally, as almost a footnote, TaylorMade says the new model offers better sound and feel (it does…though just slightly).

RSi 1 vs. SpeedBlade

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-21

We’ll save the discussion on RSi 2 and RSi TP until we get a hands-on look, so for now, let’s focus on the progression from SpeedBlade to RSi 1.

On specs alone, the irons are identical. Shaft lengths haven’t increased, and there isn’t any loft jacking (above and beyond what’s already been done).

1-spec

Aesthetics

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-19
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Blade length appears longer in the new model, and the overall head size appears slightly bigger. Regrettably (my opinion), last year’s low glare matte finish has been replaced by a highly reflective chrome finish.

Cosmetically, the RSi 1 is actually a step backwards (still my opinion), but I can also recognize the desire, if not the need, to bring some cohesiveness to the iron lineup. 1 looks like 2 looks like TP looks like MB…or something like that.

I prefer the look of SpeedBlade (I can’t believe I just said that), but if nothing else, the look of RSi 1 makes sense within the larger lineup.

And those Face Slots?

My initial impression of the face slots was an audible WTF. I thought, no way am I going to want to look down at that. And while it turns out that the slots are, as you’d expect, visible at address, it’s really not a big deal. That is to say, I never noticed them when I was actually hitting balls.

More relevant to the discussion, I think, is that our preliminary data suggests the damn things might actually do something. That is to say, something in the new iron makes it more forgiving than the previous model.

The Performance Test

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-20

I took the 7-iron from our RSi 1 sample set (stock stiff) and hit it side by side against the 7-from a stock set of Speed Blades. I hit plenty of shots to get loose, and then gathered a sample set of 10 good shots with each club (switching several times between clubs).

Limited flight (80%) range balls were used for this test, so feel free to do your own conversions. The goal was to see how the new model compares the one it’s replacing.

Here’s the data:

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There are some really interesting things here that warrant a closer look. Stock for stock, I picked up an average of 5 MPH, with a 3 MPH difference on my best stuck ball (based on ball speed) with each club.

In general, ball speed numbers were much more consistent wit the new model than the SpeedBlade, and that was clearly reflected in less distance loss on mis-hits.

For example, a toe miss (most most consistent miss) with SpeedBlade would generally carry +/-138 yards with SpeedBlade, while that same miss would produce +/-142 yards with the RSi 1.

foresight-launch

Dispersion was a bit tighter with the RSi 1, and it’s worth mentioning that I apparently had the Foresight aligned a bit right of my target line.

You should note that while that average launch angle differed by only .2°, there was a significant difference in my average spin rates. In fact, I averaged over 1500 RPM more backspin with the RSi 1 than I did with the SpeedBlade, and while I suspect my results may prove to be atypical, it certainly explains why 5 MPH more ballspeed only translated to an additional 4 yards of carry

Worth mentioning, I did not apply the Foresight roll model to the data, but the expectation is that SpeedBlade would produce significantly more roll (based on spin, and lower average peak trajectory), while the RSi 1 would all but stop where it lands.

Many will find that more desirable in an iron, and certainly, my spin numbers with the RSi 1 are much closer to ideal than what I got from SpeedBlade.

Should You Buy RSi 1 or SpeedBlade?

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-23

I play SpeedBlade now. I’m more personally invested in the irons than anything else in my bag. I pulled the stock shafts myself. I reassembled them with UST Recoil 125 shafts, and I’ve hit them well (mostly) this season.

It’s a pickle.

For $600 ($200 less) you’ll probably be happy with SpeedBlade, but if you’re willing to spend more, the RSi 1 is unquestionably more forgiving. My guess it will prove longer for most than it did for me as well. Stock vs. stock, it is a better iron.

If you already have SpeedBlade, you’ll probably be content to ride it out for another season or two…at least that’s what I’m trying to convince myself of right now.

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-15

RSi 1 Pricing and Availability

RSi 1 ($799 steel; $899 graphite) will be available to demo at select TaylorMade retailers on October 15, 2014. Sets (3-PW) can be purchased beginning on November 14, 2014. Individual gap, sand and lob wedges will be available in the RSi 1.

TaylorMade RSi1 Iron-6

The Other RSi Irons

TaylorMade wasn’t able to provide sample sets of RSi 2 and RSi TP ahead of this post, so for now, what we can tell you is little more than what’s in the TaylorMade press release, and so here’s that bit.

RSi 2 Footnotes

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The most resounding characteristic of the RSi 2 is the Progressive Multi-Material Construction. The 3-5 irons are cast from 450 stainless steel with tungsten weighting to promote a lower CG and slightly higher flight. The mid irons (6-7) are cast of 450 stainless steel, as well. The high-strength material allowed engineers to make the face thinner, undercuts deeper and accommodate slot technology. The short irons (8, 9, PW) incorporate forged faces to promote feel and accuracy; and the wedges are completely forged, giving them the look, feel and workability desired by better players. RSi 2 irons come stock with the all-new KBS Tour 105 shaft.

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RSi 2 ($999 steel; $1199 graphite) will be available to demo at select TaylorMade retailers on October 15, 2014. Sets (3-PW) can be purchased beginning on November 14, 2014. Only gap and sand wedges (no lob wedge option) will be available in RSi 2.

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RSi TP Footnotes

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The RSi TP irons combine the forged look and feel preferred by better players with Face Slot Technology. An advanced two-piece construction merges a premium 1025 forged carbon steel hosel/face with a 431 stainless steel back using plasma welding in the 3-7 irons. This construction provides the precision and feel of a forged iron with the advanced geometry of cast irons – delivering the best of both worlds. The short irons (8-PW) are classic forged heads with a slight muscle cavity. RSi TP irons come stock with the Tour-proven KBS Tour Steel Shaft.

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RSi TP ($1199) will be at retail on January 15, 2015.

More to Come

As soon as TaylorMade has RSi 2 and RSi TP product available we’ll put them through their paces to see how they compare to the other RSi products as well as the irons they’re replacing.

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      dave

      4 years ago

      the forged set was a great beginners set that were still too light weight and resulted in serious losses in distance, upwards of fifty yards.

      at least it offered a two iron, could of provided a impression for silver set instead of gloss plastic impression they really are/were

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      Karen

      8 years ago

      Well, trying to keep up with new releases can be very frustrating. Just purchased the Speedblades and love them. Since it is “old” technology, got a great price for all 8 clubs. Will definitely keep the RSi on the radar for a future purchase but really… it’s like chasing your tail. When does the $$$ stop? Makes you crazy :-)

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      Charlie

      8 years ago

      I got fitted and bought a set of RSi irons through my local golf shop in April, after only a few rounds and a few sessions at the range they had to be sent back to TM as the face of them was “depressed” leaving a lip where the slot had collapsed. 2 weeks later TM replaced them with a brand new set and after hitting only 30 balls at the range, my 7 iron is the same again. Very disappointed in the irons now, how can you have faith in them when the face is off?

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      Don Roberts

      9 years ago

      As a customer can I buy directly from Taylormade ?

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      Yes. TaylorMade sells direct to consumer via their website.

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      John O.-I bought the SLDR irons in July and I love them. As to your criticisms I think you are somewhat off base. I never went to an “official” Taylor Made Shop but every review I’ve read of their fitting studios have been very well received. As to the website-I just went on. They give complete specs on all their irons and shafts even custom shafts. Even give the weight of the grips and have an iron selector feature to recommend the model best suited for you. Sometimes they have a live chat available so you can ask questions regarding your prospective purchase. By the way the lofts on the SLDR irons and the RSI 2 are the same (at least according to the site). Can’t speak as to where you got fitted but as to your criticism of their web site. No Sale

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      John O

      9 years ago

      Hi Regis. It was an indoor TM fitting studio where I was hitting crazy far. Conclusion: always bring your own existing clubs with you to compare. Happy to be get more info if you’ve found it. On the main TM website (and the TM Asia website), there is some good info on the stock graphite shafts for the new RSI 2, but not including bounce. However , I can see bounce numbers in the mgolfspy review. But for the SLDR irons, the wesbite only has a table of steel irons; the only info on the stock Fujikura graphite shafts is weight (77/67/57; sounds heavy). Neither the guy at the TM shop, nor emailing them, nor the efforts of a guy at Fujikura could give me more info. That’s poor service. One common complaint in the past about TM was poor stock shafts; so if they make the effort to stock Fujikura, then they should provide full details (i.e. a table of graphite irons with lengths and swing weights and confirming the lies etc are the same as with the steel shafts). I can extrapolate from the Asian models that the graphites on SLDR are the same length as the graphites on RSI 2, but I can’t see it on a website. The lofts on SLDR are NOT the same as RSI 2 and neither are the bounce numbers. I prefer the (less aggressive) loft gaps and (lower) bounce numbers of SLDR. So if you have some better info on the SLDR graphites, I’m all ears. But then the independent reviews of RSI 1 and 2 by golf pros on Youtube indicate that the RSI face slots are successfully preventing distance loss on mis-hits, so I will have to try them out. Cheers!

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      John O- I go on the official Taylor Made website. http://taylormadegolf.com/taylormade-irons. I suspect you are using a different site (perhaps the Asian Site?) Either that or you are not navigating properly. As a matter of fact I just went on again and in less than 5 minutes I was prompted 3 times as to whether I wanted to “chat” with an iron specialist. Don’t know how much more one can expect. Give it a try and good luck.

      Ron-In-Colorado

      9 years ago

      I hit the RSi 2 yesterday. I liked the feel of them and when I had an off center hit, it still sounded good, not clanky, and still went a good distance. I was also getting the 7 iron out there to 167 average and here in Colorado, that’s over 180. I currently play the SLDR irons and hit my 7 iron about 170 on center hits (in Colorado). So the off center forgiveness will be something that could bring me to purchasing a new set of RSi 2 irons. Will wait till I can hit more than just a 7 iron before I jump. Also hit the new Titleist 915 D2 8 deg with the Aldila Rogue Black 70 and based on the numbers, in Colorado, I was getting 5 of 10 drives up to about 290. That is about 10 yards more than my current SLDR TP driver. Not sure if that is enough extra yardage to get that club.

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      El Cortinez

      9 years ago

      Hit the RSi 2 today. Butter soft from anywhere on the face. Center hits I could hardly feel the ball at impact. I currently game Tour Preferred MC +1 1/4 and 2* upright and carry my 7 iron 160 average.With the RSi 2 stock I was averaging 165 down the middle with a nice easy swing. Easily could have been 168-170 with a full swing. Can’t wait to try the TP when released. Too bad I just picked up the MC’s mid season on a whim or I would be considering these for next season. Damn you Taylormade!

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      golfpro

      10 years ago

      Every OEM has included slot technology (except PING) now, there must be something to this! These irons look alright. Cant wait for the RSi-S to be released next august…….

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      proside

      10 years ago

      these are ringers for adams irons. I don’t get the ap2 comparison considering they are adams cousins. the tp set looks really good though. I wonder if the next model will take it a step further with a mp15 treatment for those tps.
      these are likely a really good idea for high cappers. I could use the extra help too but I prefer to take my lumps on miss hits and use that to inspire me to learn how to strike better.
      a good move forward on the tech front all in all.

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      Blake

      10 years ago

      My most recent irons sets have been Adams MB2, then Adams CMB, then to the Speedblades. I loved all 3 sets but I have historically been a major club ho. I switch just to switch- I think it is fun just to try out new stuff. Well, I decided to finally jump off that train.

      I really, really like my Speedblades and I can’t believe I have switched over the Taylormade (also playing the SLDR driver now). But, they perform great for me.

      I strongly dislike the look of the new RSi1! Yuck! I think the Speedblades are 10 times better looking.

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      Paul

      10 years ago

      I have rocketblades at the moment. My handicap is 9 should I consider Rsi. 1 or 2 if I’m going to change
      Thanks

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      Mike

      10 years ago

      The RS1s are the first irons since the Callaway Big Bertha Gold that seem to be truly designed for the average golfer! They hit all the right buttons for super game improvement irons so I predict they will be a huge sales success for TaylorMade. I have been a hater of TaylorMade for awhile, but thes irons show signs that they can reinvent themselves and become more responsive to the everyday golfer that needs lots of forgiveness in their clubs.

      I know some of you will say “practice,” but in this mad world we live in many of us don’t have the time to do so.

      TMaG has logically created a simple, easy to understand series of irons that fit different demographics and haters should just walk away from the models that don’t suit them to the ones that do! Having said all that, I hope that TMaG offers these in a matte finish in the 2.0 versions!

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      petethepro

      9 years ago

      Your first sentence is incorrect. Well, you added “seem” so that’s okay. Your second sentence is incorrect too. They will sell but never in huge numbers because there is far too much competition out there are the new TM design will not revolutionise anyone’s game. It’s an excellent set of irons, make no mistake, but they perform the same as SLDR, Speedblade and Rocketbladz. The hardware market is down, badly, in key continents. Any added benefit due to off-centre contacts is marginal at best.

      Mind you, you should all go out and buy a set anyway.

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      AWOL

      10 years ago

      So i just watched a few videos of people reviewing these. They were actually getting good results with both irons on off centered hits. So the technology works. It might be misleading marketing from TMag because all the high hcpers are going to think this will stop a slice when only a correct swing path is going to fix that, no matter how many slots a club has. I don’t really like the look of these and i guess im a little disappointed. When TMag released the SLDR irons you know they already had these in the pipeline. So as any business i guess they wanted to steal some of the momentum from the SLDR driver and gain some with irons as well. But why not skip the release of the SLDR iron and called these the SLDR iron and spaced out the innovations better. Again poor decision by TMag. They are competing against themselves more then the competition. Now if TMag is really true about turning around they will let these sell for at least 18 months before they decide to release another, but i have a feeling this will only last 6 months. Overall i will give them a try because you never know what brand or model of iron might click with you, but i doubt these will do much better for me than my Speedblades.

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      Raj LP

      10 years ago

      Taylormade is saying that the slots allow for more flex on the edge which leads to more forgiveness on mis-hits. If that is the case why would’t they have a slot/channel which runs all around the face (except the bottom). I’m guess that will be the next model’s “mind blowing innovation.”

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      Large chris

      10 years ago

      Because the face will fall off

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      Raj LP

      10 years ago

      Doh! I assumed the slot didn’t go all the way through but was more of a groove.

      AWOL

      10 years ago

      I kind of get where you were going minus the obvious. Instead of making the slots on the face straight maybe more like “C” slots. That would seem to make more sense in case you did catch a ball directly on the slot, a c-shape would have given more face contact. Maybe version 2.0 will have that. I’m also not sure why the slots on the Si1 have flared ends and the others don’t. Flared ends makes sense on the sole of the club allowing more flex near toe and heel areas. On the face it seems a straight or c-shape slots makes more sense and if they wanted more flex, increase the width of them. I wonder what would happen if they made slots all the way through the face where each groove was. I wonder if it would be even more spring like but still spin.

      Berniez40

      10 years ago

      I play the Adams Super S Irons, and have yet to hit anything longer than them. I used to play the Redlines, but they had very little feel to them as compared to the Super S Irons. I find it interesting that TaylorMade, who acquired Adams in order to avoid the Velocity Slot vs. Rocketballz law suit, is releasing a Shiny Chrome Next Edition RSI to replace the mattte finish SLDR, as did Adams when they replaced the Matte Finish Redlines with the shiny chrome Super S irons. I find a lot of this innovation hokey at best. Remember the Weighted Hosel Design on the old Cobra Irons , a design concept “so important”, that Cobra Golf paid millions to Arnold Palmer Golf just to get it. Anyone here seen any hosel weighted irons lately?

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      Don

      10 years ago

      This is an informative read. The tech sounds interesting. Still, my Ping i15’s are performing quite well for me and this isn’t giving me the urge to buy another set of irons (i must admit the Nike launch had me thinking about it a bit). I think I will wait until this time next year to see if TM’s next set of irons have the face slots in them. I have seen too many of these ‘innovations’ get dropped as fast as they are brought in.

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      AJ

      10 years ago

      What amazes me is that on one hand every one berates the OEM’s (mainly TM) for releasing too many clubs, BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yet as soon as they trundle out a new set of irons the media and that includes MGS fall over them selves to get the first look and of course an invite to the launch.

      A little hypocritical but what would I know. I wonder what would happen if the media stayed away from the launch of the new range???

      Great write up as usual.

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      Regis

      10 years ago

      My first irons were Mac Gregor MT Tourneys, then Muirfield’ s, then Mizuno’s and Miura’s. Finally had to move to non-forged and gamed G-25’s, then Cobra Amps. Meh. Still looking for a GI iron with a forged feel, I went to the SLDR. For me ,they are the real deal, a GI iron that feels like a forged. Made me a believer in the speed slots. Now I have no interest in the RSi line but to you TMAG bashers, be careful , because those slots may end up in your next irons and you may have to eat your words. Never you say. Look to the newly released Titleist 915 woods line and their “Active Recoil Channel”. To me that’s a slot. Just saying.

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      Revkev

      10 years ago

      Regardless of what it’s called I think the tweener club, between GI and players iron, is the wave of the future. Having written that TMag is who they are and they are the top dog club wise at this point. Why would we expect anything different from them just because we don’t like it?

      I’m not getting rid of my SLDR because it works for me. I’m not about to change my current iron lineup either but clubs that straddle the line between easier to hit GIs and Players clubs always grab my attention. I’m a lower handicapper who appreciates a bit more forgiveness certainly in the middle irons on up so that I might invest the little practice time that my day job allows on other parts of my game.

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      SkipThisAd

      10 years ago

      I just came from Home Depot and got a metal cutting blade for my grinder.I’m going to make a few slots like these on my current set and I will let you guys know the test results. Don’t worry I’ll be careful. BTW, if you want to gain , not only 4yards, but even 20 plus yards on your irons, just go to a big box store and they’ll auto set the wind for you at no extra charge.

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      petethepro

      9 years ago

      I own a big box store. We never set wind from the back or elevation. We always try to give our customers the correct data. I know it happens and I could tell you guys some stories about that, but not every store does this. I don’t even know where those adjustments are on our launch monitor software and none of my staff do either. Here’s the tough part for us all….. you would not believe how many customer tells us they normally hit it 10, 20, 30, 40 and more yards further with 6 and 7 irons, and this works against us. Yes, we actively lose sales by never tricking the customers!!

      I’m hoping you and all mygolfspy readers/contributors take my comments on board, because we have to have someone on this site balancing things up, putting another side to the story. The one which is often overlooked, forgotten. If I (or someone else) doesn’t do this, serious golfers out there end up with a few mis-informed ideas.

      So everybody out there… question 1. How will you, in the future, differentiate between a store which uses the launch monitor truthfully and one which cranks up the numbers?

      Question 2. Once you have satified yourself that the launch monitor is set correctly, will you ever accept the numbers? Will you then buy your clubs at that store because they deserve the business. (I know the answer top this one – we have NEVER, EVER, been rewarded by anyone for having a truthful launch monitor).

      Question 3. If you (not you personally Skip, but the collective bunch of mygolfspy’ers had a chance to design clubs, what would you all bring to the market? You see, it far harder than you might imagine. Same with the ball. You have to juggle 3 things, primarily. 1. The Rules of Golf which limit several aspects of both club and ball. Take the ball as my 1st example – of course it won’t go any further because the rules tell you clearly it won’t. It has an initial velocity test and an overall distance standard test. EVERY ball goes far – I’ve played with them all because I have to report to my staff how they work. Some spin more than others – I’ve shot under par with a ProV1 and a Nike Women’s ball (but not in pink, that was one step too far).

      Patents. I wish you all success with your new designs, everyone. You may not breach the multitude of patents out there.

      So, be prepared everyone for some extremely lacklustre designs over the forthcoming years. If you all think you can do better, show us the way. Put your money where you mouth is, open a golf club design and manufacturing facility and take over the world.

      I often consider what I would do in their situation, you know, being responsible for new designs of golf clubs, new balls, etc. I am astonished what the manufacturers achieve – ideas I certainly couldn’t think of. The only ideas I ever came up with hit against the patent problem.

      Maybe time for a change of attitude by many mygolfspy’ers.

      1. The manufacturers are very good at providing an astonishingly good selection of golf equipment, at the cutting edge of technical brilliance.

      2. All of it is brought to you at low prices.

      3. Hardly any companies are making money at the moment. Most golf shops in the mature markets are having their own crisis. I could tell you some stories there, but nobody would believe me anyway.

      4. The new Taylor Made’s are fantastic golf clubs. Let do that again… unbelievebly good irons, those new Taylor Mades. Go and buy a set, and enjoy them, enjoy the great golf you will surely play with them and if not, it’s not the club’s is it? It was never the clubs, was it. Come on everyone, it’s not the clubs, it’s you. I played with two rental sets early this year – the 1st set the TM driver shaft was a fishing rod. Not easy for a few holes, but I slowed the tempo and it was great after that. The 2nd day I shot 2 under par with a TM set, wrong shaft flex, 3 degrees out on the lie, 1 inch too short, wrong grip size and type of grip.

      But I like contributing to this website because it allows me to vent my frustrations after reading fiction and incorrect statements.

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      John O

      9 years ago

      Crazy expectations of shoppers must be very frustrating, but I assure you it’s not everyone. I was looking at the SLDR irons. Went for a fitting at the official TaylorMade shop and was hitting the 7 iron 190 yards, said Foresight. That fiction reduced my confidence in everything else they were telling me, and prevented me confidently choosing between S and R shafts. No sale. Adding to that, they had no shaft data on their stock Fujikura graphite shafts, not even a table of lengths and swing weights, let alone torque, etc, and there’s none on their website or on review sites. They are constantly rushing it. Website for RSI doesn’t even show bounce numbers. However, I prefer the SLDR lofts and they’ll be dirt cheap now.

      markb

      10 years ago

      A superb write-up — at least from my perspective because I currently play Speedblades! So all I care about is how these new offerings stack up against my gamer. You hit the critical short-coming of the SB right on the head — toe misses. The SB is bad at them and if the RSi1 helps in this one area alone, that’s something to consider.

      As for looks, I was very critical of the RSi1’s in the sneak peek’s I had seen over the past few days, but these pictures make them look better, almost tolerable. It’s the black badges that don’t work for me, although now I notice that they look more like the AP1’s. The RSi2’s and RSi TP’s are solid looking.

      I’m also intrigued by the multi-material approach of the RSi2’s because over time I grew less fond of my SB’s short irons. I dumped the wedges pretty fast and I’ve now replaced even the 9 iron with a forged, traditional club. Things are working well and I don’t expect I’ll change any further clubs for some time. This whole RSi generation will probably pass me by and I’ll be in the market again about the time they flip-flop back to the SLDR 2 or the R17.

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      Lee H.

      10 years ago

      I hit the RSi1 & 2 today (7 iron demo). A local Taylormade in-store rep had them available. Great feel for both of them. I definitely like them much better in feel, looks and even in distance than the speed blade and the SLDR irons. I tend to hit slight draws and noticed that the RSi1 enhanced that draw a little more, which I expected. Nice high launch tho. The RSi2 had a slightly lower launch, but keep in mind I was hitting a KBS tour 90 shaft, while the RSi1 had speed blade 85 shaft (stock RSi shafts were not available yet). The RSi2 had less draw and in some shots, I hit it longer. Overall, I’m impressed. Too bad they don’t offer various stock shaft offerings like Mizuno, but they are a big box company and appeal to the majority of golfers for an instant purchase…But I think they made something good here.

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      Regis

      10 years ago

      I am long past the point where I can play steel shafts but I went on the TMAG website and they seem to have a number of shaft options including Project X and Nippon

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      Aotearoabrad

      10 years ago

      I’m actually quite excited about the RSi2 irons. I think they look great, but do agree that I would have preferred more of the matte finish rather than the chrome. Think I’ll head to the local store today and see if they have any demos in.

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      Dave S

      10 years ago

      Agree on the finish… I’ve never been a fan of shiny, chrome-like irons.

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      KP

      10 years ago

      Really taylormade. I have had my mizuno mp 32 irons since 2006 and there is no way anybody could rip those out of my bag even if they were free. If any of those clowns out there think I will drop a $1000 bucks every year for 4 yards they are nuts. No wonder the equipment clowns are drowning in their own vomit as the keep puking out equipment no one really needs.

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      DW

      10 years ago

      Well said KP.

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      leftienige

      10 years ago

      I don’t know about the U.S., but here in the U.K. R.S.I. is short for Repetitative Strain Injury .
      This is a wrist/hand disability brought on by endlessly shelling out for the latest T/M product .

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      proside

      10 years ago

      hahaha awesome

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      TopPakRat

      10 years ago

      I got the scoop on these last night on Ebay. I think I counted 12 sets in the Left handed category. What’s new at TaylorMade is already old.

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      ted72

      10 years ago

      Lets see if they get rid of the SLDR driver?

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      Berniez40

      10 years ago

      I hear that next year they’re coming out in white.

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      eron

      10 years ago

      Agreed they do look a bit like the ap1 and ap2 series- along with the color scheme. I would probably pick these up over the Nike’s though especially the TP’s. But im too in love my bridgestone’s at the moment

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      Ed

      10 years ago

      I just spent over a grand for the speedblade irons and sldr driver and now they are obsolete. What is going on with this industry?

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      Dave S

      10 years ago

      Why are they “obsolete”? Are they top-of-the-line still? No. But that’s different than being obsolete. I’d say that averaging 4 yards less isn’t gonna tack on too many strokes to your final tally :) If you’re irons are over 10 years old, I’d probably start considering them for the “obsolete” category, but certainly not irons that were released less than a year ago!

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      Greg

      10 years ago

      If the slots work great but you’d think they would try to camouflage them a bit. I generally laugh when people bitch about the back of the clubhead’s poor asthetics but those black lines are staring right back at you at address. Another dud from tmag.

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      Dave S

      10 years ago

      TMaG prob had the same discussions… on one side of the coin, they probably worried about the visibility turning people off, but on the other side, they have to market the tech, and that’s much harder if there’s nothing visible…

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      ron

      10 years ago

      If your looking at clubs like this from TM, save yourself money and go to walmart and buy a set there, you will get the same set with a different name. This is so pathetic and so cheaply made its unreal, dont give this garbage from addidas another look, good lord.

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      Dave S

      10 years ago

      No offense, but I’m pretty sure your statement above is empirically false. Tests have been run to compare “off-brand” clubs vs those you get from OEMs and the brand name clubs perform better across the board. Now, depending on your talent level, you may determine that the improvement you get isn’t worth the additional $ paid, but I would think anyone breaking 100 on a consistent basis would want to go ahead and invest in a decent set of brand name game-improvement irons.

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      Steve

      10 years ago

      Adams Super S irons anyone?

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      golffun

      10 years ago

      You didn’t mention whether the RSI 1’s had the slot on all clubs or if they stayed with the 3-7 concept they used before…. unlike the Adams XTD’s which has the slot in all irons… Thanks

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      anthony

      10 years ago

      Am I crazy or do they (Rsi1) look like the old Ap-1’s ?

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      Russ

      10 years ago

      So now, you’ve just spent $800-900 on SLDR irons(best thing since sliced bread) and they’re old technology?
      What happened to the “lessons learned” by the Dick’s fiasco?

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      Dave S

      10 years ago

      I’ve been thinking about replacing my current irons of a while now. I bag the Adams Idea CMBs, and while I love how they look (honestly, I’ll admit they hooked me with how pretty they are) and how they play – when I’m hitting them well – I just don’t think I’m good enough to play them on a regular basis. I’m a 14 hcp and just this summer started consistently breaking 90 (shot as low as an 83, which was unthinkable last year). I have a feeling though, that these irons might be holding me back, since the penalty on a mishit is pretty noticeable. I’ve been eyeing the Speedblades/G25s for some time, but these RS1s throw a wrench into my plans…

      Do you think it’s worth going all-in on the new ones, or will I notice a large enough improvement going from CMBs to Speedblades, that the extra $200 isn’t worth it?

      As always, great stuff!

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      Nils Nelson

      10 years ago

      Dave S:
      As a former equipment writer and editor for a number of golf magazines, I implore you to hang on to your current set and keep practicing and playing. Far too many golfers in your position think “they aren’t good enough” for a blade. Did you buy your CMBs off the rack, or were you fit for them? Maybe they need a fitting adjustment–it’s hard to say from long distance. Liking how your clubs look is important, and, as you say, the CMBs are “pretty.”
      Invest your money in lessons and be patient. The so-called latest and greatest aren’t going anywhere. Enjoy the process of practice and learning, and good luck!

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      Dave S

      10 years ago

      Thanks for the comment Nils. Yes, I bought them off the rack. I’ve thought about getting them fitted, but that would be a commitment in and of itself since that’s typically not a cheap proposition. I’m certainly not looking for a magic bullet or anything. I know practice is the only way to continually get better, but I’m being realistic about the amount of time I actually have to practice (which is not a lot), and so any little advantage I can get would be great. If that means not losing much distance on a mishit, I’ll take it… I’m just wondering how much improvement I can expect to see just from switching to game improvement clubs.

      Nils Nelson

      10 years ago

      I hear ya, Dave. Time and money. What to do? You can take a closer look at your current set and try your own “fitting” in a few basic but important ways. One is the shaft. Steel would be most likely. But which kind–True Temper Dynamic Gold? Or another make? What’s the shaft flex, R or S? If it’s stiff, than this could be contributing to your mishits. If your irons feel too heavy, or “boardy,” like you’re swinging a lamp post, then there’s a clue. Lie angle is also very important: the angle made by the center of the shaft and the sole of the club. Take your 9-iron and address an imaginary ball on a hard surface (no carpet). Is the toe off the floor with a significant gap between sole and floor?
      If so, it’s too upright. This is just a static test, but if you pull your short irons left of target, this could be why. A competent clubmaker could flatten the lie angle, if need be, for a few bucks. The size of the grip also matters: small hands, big hands, etc. Well, you can see what’s involved in a very general way. As for trying a game-improvement club, well, you already have a set, what with the CMBs’ hidden tungsten weights in the toe to help with a little forgiveness, the clubs’ weight distribution and so on. Looking at these face slots on the new TMs makes me wonder. How much time will be spent cleaning the slots after a damp morning round? I hope this helps, Dave. (We can continue this off-site if you’d like (and if you know how!)

      Fozcycle

      10 years ago

      The RSi 1’s really look like the Titleist AP’s

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      anthony

      10 years ago

      LOL I just left the same comment below…I should of read the other posts first :-)

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      captcouv

      10 years ago

      Isn’t this a variation of the old Foxbat clubs? http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/cod3/ucir5478.htm

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      AWOL

      10 years ago

      Hmmm…interesting. I could see how slots in the face could make it a little hotter, essentially almost the entire face is floating. I’m skeptical but obviously your numbers proved you got something out of it. What a weird concept.

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      Krizar

      10 years ago

      I kind of like the overall lineup. Face slots are a little bothersome, but I really don’t see it being a problem when swinging. I don’t like the chrome on the RSI1, but the brushed look on the RSI2 looks really nice.
      I’m currently gaming SLDR irons, and the chrome is the one thing I don’t like about them.

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      AWOL

      10 years ago

      yeah not liking the chrome finish the black resin in the slots would have looked a lot better if they continued with the brushed gun powder finish

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      Lou

      10 years ago

      Color wise, they kind of remind me of my old burner 2.0’s. I know I won’t be playing them or anymore Taylormade stuff in the future. Taylormade as well as Callaway have really soured me on their equipment.

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      Fitter21

      10 years ago

      I definitely believe the entire line (excluding the tp) is aesthetically challenged. Those slots should have been a little more inconspicuous, or better yet totally hidden with paint, a metallic sticker or something! I can see the concept behind them, and the forgiveness aspect may have some sound engineering basically spreading the hi cor across the face. That should definitely increase overall average disances. Now any yardage claims from center stikes are bull.I don’t buy it. You tested with a cor limited speedblade and then their cor limited rsi(which was undoubtly checked prior to being sent to you)which is probably on the high side of the cor if not over due to tolerances. They want to make sure the club you get performs to raise some buzz, but thats likely not what consumers will receive when they purchase. I believe those clubs with their matching specs and the same shafts would perform damn near identically. That’s assuming the speedblades were cor limited to begin with. But as I mentioned earlier if your looking for only forgiveness then these may be for you.They will still be long but long from averages across the face, not any longer from the center of the face. So don’t believe those 8 yards plus commercials that are sure to come. Maybe 4 or 5 yards longer from mishits would be more accurate. Lastly the KBS Tour 105 is a made for shaft. KBS is just licensing their name but its a Taylormade design. But the KBS tour in the TP is a real deal. Can’t wait to see some true comparison.

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      drjacko

      10 years ago

      So let’s compare this with Nike’s iron launch. Oh let’s just even compare with last year’s TM SLDR launch.

      Is it me or just very low levels of buzz?

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      t5timesb

      10 years ago

      I think you can only say the same thing so many times.

      Reply

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