adidas confirms plans to sell TaylorMade
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adidas confirms plans to sell TaylorMade

adidas confirms plans to sell TaylorMade
The company will actively seek a buyer for the remainder of its golf business, which mainly consists of the TaylorMade brand…

As you may recall from the last time we discussed the potential sale of TaylorMade, adidas Group had entertained a round (I’m told two, actually) of offers for the company before announcing that a final decision would be made after Q1 and following a strategic review.

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Q1 is complete, as is that review, and in no uncertain terms adidas Group CEO, Herbert Hainer, has made it clear that TaylorMade, along with Ashworth and Adams Golf, is for sale.

“TaylorMade is a very viable business. However, we decided that now is the time to focus even more on our core strength in the athletic footwear and apparel market. With its leadership position in the industry and the turnaround plan gaining traction, which is clearly reflected in the top- and bottom-line improvements recorded in Q1 as well as recent market share gains, I am convinced that TaylorMade offers attractive growth opportunities in the future. At the same time, the planned divestiture will allow us to reduce complexity and focus our efforts on those areas of our business that offer the highest return and where we can have the biggest impact in reaching our consumers and winning their loyalty for the adidas and Reebok brands.” – Herbert Hainer, CEO , adidas-Group

The short version of the adidas plan is for the company to sell its three golf brands, while increasing its focus on apparel and footwear. While that’s likely true across the whole of the company, the takeaway is that adidas Golf – and the golf shoes and apparel it produces – will remain under the adidas umbrella.The TaylorMade portion of TaylorMade-adidas Golf will be sold. The adidas part won’t.

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What Buyers Would Be Getting

Despite a rocky couple of years, TaylorMade remains the #1 Driver brand in golf (both on tour and at retail), it’s market shares within its key categories (metalwoods and irons) are trending in the right direction, and while the company was down 1.4% (Year over Year) for Q1 on a currency neutral basis, most, if not all, of that can be attributed to declines at Ashworth and Adams where there are basically no products to sell.

Profit margins were also lower.

Mr. Hainer is almost certainly right, however. There’s plenty of upside for the TaylorMade brand, provided the company can be had for the right price. We’ve heard 500MM as the broad ballpark number that adidas had originally hoped to get for the company. Our insiders suggest that without the higher margins brought by adidas footwear and apparel, the actual value of the hard goods division is likely substantially less.

Potential Buyers

We reported earlier that Bridgestone was a potential buyer. We’re told the company had dropped out after the first round of bidding, and we’re not sure they’ll jump back in now that things are a bit more official.

Despite persistent rumors, and I suppose wishful thinking, we don’t believe Under Armour is potential buyer as it’s unlikely adidas would sell to a major competitor.

The most likely buyer will emerge from the private equity world. That was the case with 5 of the original 6 bidders we heard about.

What It Means for the Industry

Without knowing who the buyer will be, it’s impossible to know what impact it will have on how TaylorMade does business. The backing of adidas is what gave TaylorMade the marketing spend that helped propel it to the top of the industry. The new owners would likely concentrate on steady growth and profitability, which would likely mean a more restrained TaylorMade with strategies that more closely mirror some of it’s more revenue-focused competitors.

Time, as it always does, will tell, but the will they or won’t they (sell TaylorMade) part is over. Now it’s simply a matter of when and to whom.

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      Pete the Pro

      8 years ago

      The news that Taylor Made is for sale is nothing new. It has merely become less speculation and more fact. The awful truth, whether we like it or not, is that the retail golf industry and manufacturing / Wholesale side is not in great shape. Some markets are bouyant, others are stable but significantly down on previous years. It’s mixed, but catch the downturn and the financial side starts to hurt. I know a lot about this, having fincanced a golf shop throughout the recession. Spare a moment to transform yourself into a golf shop owner for a moment. You may have to work hard for zero wages, fund your life from other resources and ride out the storm. Constant negotiations about price because the internet delivers price visibility. However, the consumer cannot differentiate great webshops from the ones that advertise products they don’t have, or items they cannot even get because they don’t have a trade account. Or the fake product. If the golfer wants custom fitting, great brands, amazing technology, friendly service, great after sales, a stunning website and all the rest that goes into it, beating the price down in the store doesn’t contribute to the package that makes it viable for manufacturers and retailers. Sure, it’s great for the contributors to beat on about how they bought it on e-bay at 60% off but don’t be surprised when change has to occur. It is often conveniently forgotten that the Rules of Golf limit what can be done to a golf club and ball and we hit the limits years ago. Consumers happily pay up for other products (car, i-phone, meal out) without excessive thought and beating the service provider on price. Just needs to be the same in golf.

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      James Pysh

      8 years ago

      What the whole industry needs to do is to stop paying the tour players so much money. 75% of the wholesale price of clubs goes toward marketing spend. We also need to quit with all the ridiculous fittings and specials. 95% of golfers don’t aren’t consistent enough to benefit from it and so much time and money is wasted.

      Reply

      Ryan Holcomb

      8 years ago

      Yes! Outlaw pay for play and watch real R&D dominate.

      Reply

      Pete the Pro

      8 years ago

      James, One element of your comment is approaching reasonable – the 95% figure. The remainder is slightly wide of the truth, in a nice way, you understand. The Tour Players help equipment sales enormously – it amazes me how many very average golfers follow the various tours and know “what’s in the bag”. The fitting of golf clubs can be a complex subject, accepted. However, at its basic level, it’s like different shoe sizes of clothing sizes. So what you are telling us is that everyone should fit a medium shirt and size 10 shoes. And its ridiculous that anyone needs an XL shirt and size 12 shoes. Or your new car is available in one colour, one engine size. Or your steak is only possible well done.

      Reply

      Greg Marsh

      8 years ago

      So sad, having worked there, in the beginning………………

      Reply

      James Levecque

      8 years ago

      I didn’t even know Adidas owned them. I love their drivers and with Adams hybrid technology they’re hybrids are coming along too. I tried the M2 irons but I did not get a good feel for them that day. Sticking with my Pings for now.

      Reply

      Jamie Chilles

      8 years ago

      Drats….lol

      Reply

      Jason Dunaway

      8 years ago

      Cleveland/Srixon/TM ?

      Reply

      Jeff Seaford

      8 years ago

      The way they change clubs, things will change Saturday

      Reply

      Andrew Binney

      8 years ago

      Good riddance. They’ve been sinking the club industry single handedly.

      Reply

      Paul Branlund

      8 years ago

      These M&As rarely ever work out. Seen it happen too often in the golf industry! If they don’t ditch it in a hurry it will continue to drag adidas down especially with Under Armour being hot right now.

      Reply

      Mark Miller

      8 years ago

      Stop coming out with new shit every month and flooding the market. Should take a look at how Ping does business. Nothing against their stuff. it’s great but c’mon how do they not turn a profit? best players in the world are rocking it and playing their shit! best driver and woods in the game. great irons. good wedges .. very solid golf ball.. No brainer for the right price and a few changes in upper management. they turn it around

      Reply

      James Pysh

      8 years ago

      Ping is releasing stuff almost as fast as TM.

      Reply

      Paul Marshalek

      8 years ago

      If it’s last year’s Taylormade it should be about 75% less now.

      Reply

      Ben Satterfield

      8 years ago

      Pxg should buy it

      Reply

      Guy Crawford

      8 years ago

      Well I’ll buy it as long as they are willing to do a very long installment plan ;-) Good News the M17 will be delayed and the M2 woods should go onsale.

      Reply

      Tanner Christman

      8 years ago

      TM has been producing great clubs for some
      Time now but there are so many holes in their bus ideas model. How do u expect to make a profit of you release $400-$500.00 drives every 6 months making every club u purchase outdated a few months after u buy the club especially drivers take the SLDR for example how many different ver of the same
      Club do u really need to make! The changes were not even all that drastic basically same club making you not see the need to upgrade plus it is really frustrating when u make such a big investment on a new club and 6 months later a newer better club comes out and the 500.00 club u just bought is now 250.00! They should make a trade in or leasing program that allows u to trade in driver for new ones as they are released and send back your old one which they can still sell used but would help move more product. Plus if they focused on releasing new clubs that have a lot of new features giving customers a reason to upgrade they would not be producing tons of clubs that will not sell because they are no different then previous 2 clubs released money they save on inventory that is not selling and use that money in other areas of business! Plus they need to either sponsor events and bwcome very selective on pros they sponsor I think they will gain more exposure and would not be paying pros that no one even watches! It just seems they are spending a lot of money in areas that are not helping produce more sales. There is no need for 5 different versions of SLDR if they are reign to provide a club to fit any players need then do what Nike does with Nike ID program and let players build custom drivers to fit there needs at a premium price so they don’t release clubs that only select players will ever think of buying! Plus will give players ability to get the exact club they want without mass producing certain clubs! Have a standard model
      And then have ability to add features as they become available! TM has a great name and rep in golf industry so no need to prove anything so stop producing 5 drivers every season and create 2 one base model and 1 that can be built to specs u desire! Will create more hype and excitement when new club comes out if buyers know that a new club will be dropping a few months later!

      The best option I think is a leasing program with a monthly fee plus an initial purchase must be made then when. Ew club drops u can upgrade by sending in old club and have option lease to buy! Win win situation for a golf comp for used clubs are still a very large market! I know I would sign up and they would mAke more just like car company’s do but keeps me from having to sell my clubs then buy new ones as they come out

      Reply

      Larry Spalla

      8 years ago

      Then the new owners can make their clubs obsolete every 3 months also

      Reply

      Ebb Yates

      8 years ago

      Maybe if Taylormade didn’t suck so bad, Adidas would keep them

      Reply

      Jason Jarrett

      8 years ago

      They release a new product line every 13 minutes, you can’t even get the stickers off your shaft before before the club u just purchased Is out of date.

      Reply

      Mark Miller

      8 years ago

      exactly

      Reply

      Pete the Pro

      8 years ago

      I just managed to get the stickers off my new i-phone and another one came out. I bought my new car that I waited 3 months for and 3 months later, they brought another version out. I just got used to the menu at my favourite restaurant, and they changed the menu. I just learned that Apple is the most successful company ever at making money.

      Reply

      Bill Tetley

      8 years ago

      I just hope that if they get sold that their parent company doesn’t lay off a bunch of people.

      Reply

      neil

      8 years ago

      I doubt they will find a buyer for any amount.they must give away 5 drivers for everyone they sell.

      Maybe the name and the intellectual property is worth.something.

      Look gor a massive sale of clubs onnamazon ebay and alibaba.

      Reply

      Jimbo

      8 years ago

      I’d go with Apple Computer as a buyer. They have 200+ billion in cash. They need to diversify. This deal would cost them .25% of their cash. The 2x yearly new product release cycle would work great – iDriver, iPutter, iBall…..

      Reply

      Robert A. Purvis Jr.

      8 years ago

      Super unfortunate. One would have to assume the amount of products being released along with that amount of stock has to take a toll on bottom line. I’m a TM fan and hope someone viable picks them up but UA better stay away.

      Reply

      Dusty Burgess

      8 years ago

      #MakeTaylorMadeGreatAgain

      Reply

      Derek Klein

      8 years ago

      Junk anyway !!!

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      8 years ago

      I’d like to make a public offer. Take the last two FY’s financial results at TM and add $200 million. That’s my price. In other words, they pay me $80 million to take it off their hands. But I’ll put them on a plan if they wanna spread out payments. I know Adidas is tight on cash.

      There ya go, easy.

      Reply

      Lucas Clark

      8 years ago

      Shaun Clarke Adidas called TM “The 400 million dollar anchor” that has been holding them back haha. They’ve single handedly ruined the golf industry in my opinion.

      Reply

      Shaun Clarke

      8 years ago

      Whaaaat….had no idea!!

      Reply

      Caleb Clark

      8 years ago

      So what part did adidas own? Not the clubs?

      Reply

      Marty G. Michaud

      8 years ago

      I have to say I’m a bit disappointed. I always thought the joint merger of Adidas and Taylormade was a great fit. Great clothing and great golf equipment. My loyalty will come in question now. I just rejoined Taylormade (PSi irons) from Ping. But business is business I guess?

      Reply

      Gregory Thompson

      8 years ago

      Spin

      Reply

      RJ Spin

      8 years ago

      Obviously I need this haha

      Reply

      Gregory Thompson

      8 years ago

      RJ Spin when we hit the lottery we’ll buy it

      Reply

      Gregory Thompson

      8 years ago

      Turn it into SpinMade

      Reply

      Ricky Yacko

      8 years ago

      What do they want for it? Boutathousand?

      Reply

      McaseyM

      8 years ago

      C’mon WalMart. Buy them up and make them your in-house brand.
      You’ve dealt with labor disputes and wage issues for your workers before.
      Plus think of the price cuts!!

      Reply

      Large chris

      8 years ago

      Although the reasons for TM decline are obvious and well reported here (should say they paid too much to sponsor too many players then they wondered why their ROI went down, pretty dumb), it makes even less sense to split up the apparel and hard goods.

      Adidas, if they take their heads out of their rears, should realise they have a good / potentially great brand going with their combined marketing efforts getting them a great return on their apparel. And goodness knows they could make a profit on some Ashworth wind cheaters for almost no marketing effort at all.

      If TM goes it alone it hurts Adidas golf more than they realise.

      Reply

      Steven Scott Bragg

      8 years ago

      Wow

      Reply

      Mike Boucher

      8 years ago

      I’d buy that for a dollar

      Reply

      Lucas Clark

      8 years ago

      Best news I’ve heard all year!

      Reply

      EGDEW Rich

      8 years ago

      I have been in the global stock market analysis and investment management business since the early 80s. Very few non Coca Cola like consumer stocks are at all time high prices, as is Adidas with this earnings report. I would not be surprised if the management fears two things: 1) a strong dollar that hurts non-US sales 2) a recession in the US and in Europe that drops sales down more than a few notches over the next few years. with the founder of NIKE stepping aside, they might also fear more intense competition on the apparel side and therefore a need to focus on keeping their current market share. Compare the charts of NKE and ADDYY via http://www.bigcharts.com ! I would guess that everyone fears Nike down the road.

      Reply

      Matty

      8 years ago

      Somewhat unrelated (might sound crazy), but I am curious for the M1 Driver. What happens if you remove the 15g weight from the front track and place it to the back track? It would likely make it as forgiving as the M2 Driver, right?

      Reply

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      Totally unrelated actually, but since you asked…

      For maximum forgiveness, what you want to do is remove both weights, place the heavier weight from the front in the rear track first, then added the lighter weight after it. You have to do it this way since weights load from the front of the track and you want the max weight as far back as possible.

      We haven’t measured explicitly in the configuration but it should bring MOI close, those not quite exactly, to that of M2.

      Reply

      Brian Pert

      8 years ago

      I’m in for 20. Who’s with me?

      Reply

      Mike Witt

      8 years ago

      I’ll pitch in five bucks because I only want 20% if this train wreck.

      Reply

      Mr.B.

      8 years ago

      And with the current proposed class action lawsuit against TMaG for alleged California Labor Code and applicable Wage Orders violations, I’m sure big adi/adi Golf wants nothing more, than to get the hell out of Southern California.

      Reply

      Mbwa Kali Sana

      8 years ago

      The socialo communist Governmens in EUROPE should be shot down with a KALASHNIKOV which Mr PUTIN Will readily provide for making. Business Life so difficult and so costly ,especially blue Collar work .Now with the likes of a KENYAN MOSLEM PRESIDENT ,the USA is following in the same steps .The PRC and VIETNAM have nô unions ,nô minimum sages ,nô Labor Lawyers : what they lack is imagination and entrepreneurship ..All they CAN do is copy ,so never give them the occasion to do so ,évén for simple engineered work as making golf clubs . A CHINESE player – LI- won the récent PEKING open with US clubs ( Made in PRC of course ) .So don’t make Life too easy for them!

      Reply

      Rex

      8 years ago

      What the hell is wrong with you?

      Mel Propos

      8 years ago

      Proof that Google Translate still needs lots of work.

      Mbwa Kali Sana

      8 years ago

      I rediscover the stupidity of US businessmen and US shareholders.( I was the CEO of two major US Multinationals ).For them ,it’s too difficult and time connsuming and less profitable to design ,manufacture an engineered product ,it’s so much easier to have clothe apparel made for cheap in CHINA ,and resell it with a huge profit with your brand on it.
      That’s Why the USA Is going down the drain .
      If DONALD TRUMP is elected President of the UNITED STATES ,maybe the jobs Will comme back home !

      Reply

      mcavoy

      8 years ago

      The problem for UA could be getting their top guys to switch to their clubs. Speith seems to be doing pretty well with Titleist. Hunter Mahan? Seems to be a Ping lifer. Switching is risky and doesn’t always pay off.

      Reply

      TD

      8 years ago

      A great result of this would be a true re-birth of of Adams in north texas….hey Jerry Jones….don’t you need to fill that extra space near the new Cowboys practice/training facility? You already have an excellent proving ground in your Cowboy Club…. Have them do a genuine reboot of the 9064LS driver…the Super black hybrid… the CB/CM forged irons… and the Puglielli wedge line. Those clubs changed my bag/game!

      Reply

      Chris Williams

      8 years ago

      Old news. There not going anywhere

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      This is the first time adidas CEO Herbert Hainer has said publicly that adidas will sell TaylorMade. This isn’t rumor or speculation, this is directly from adidas leadership.

      Reply

      Chris Williams

      8 years ago

      I know I’m on staff there

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      8 years ago

      *they’re, and they essentially have to sell TM now; if they don’t, their stock will take a severe hit. I’d call your Cobra rep and see what their staff minimums are.

      Reply

      Chris Williams

      8 years ago

      Chad Mardesen taylormade will still have clubs. I’m hearing it’s going to be apparel primarily. Possibly U.A. Never cobra

      Reply

      Matt McCollum

      8 years ago

      Afraid to go to a better company like Cobra?

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      8 years ago

      Chris Williams Taylormade will only be equipment, no apparel and no footwear, unless the company that over-pays for them already has apparel and somehow creates a TM apparel brand (not likely at all). Cobra Puma is the best suited company to purchase TM, thus the suggestion. Callaway doesn’t need it. UA would have to be insane to put anything but their own brand on anything (goes for Nike, too), and no other companies have the cash.

      The question is, what then did you mean by “they’re not going anywhere”? Because TM is, as a division of Adidas, dead.

      Reply

      James Levecque

      8 years ago

      If Adidas can’t make Taylormade a valuable product line and want to sell them then their corporate structure needs to admit incompetence.

      Reply

      Tommy Garrett

      8 years ago

      It would be the perfect opportunity for Under Armour to finally get in the equipment world

      Reply

      Don

      8 years ago

      It’s time to vote Taylor Made out and find a Trump golf company we know he loves golf

      Reply

      Steve S

      8 years ago

      So now it’s official. So what? Not much has changed. They are still losing talent, which may accelerate now that it’s official, since their management was lying to them all along. Too bad, I’m currently playing TM driver and Adams hybrids and irons from 2014. May be the last good clubs from this group…but I hope not….

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      Leslie McCafferty

      8 years ago

      TM got a lot of haters for the unrelenting product releases, especially drivers. But their aggressive marketing forced all the others to innovate and bring their clubs forward too.
      Without TM I fear the entire industry will become stale.

      Reply

      Apollo Sher

      8 years ago

      UA,Bridgestone 加入戰局

      Reply

      hckymeyer

      8 years ago

      Vindication!!!

      Well done MGS!

      Reply

      Eric Tryon

      8 years ago

      Put a bid in Michael Gibson. You got it

      Reply

      Eric Tryon

      8 years ago

      Benefits. I got benefits…for now ?

      Reply

      Michael Gibson

      8 years ago

      I no it is and I thought it was weird because were not even talking about melo

      Reply

      Eric Tryon

      8 years ago

      Meh. Wait a few weeks. Your M2’s will be 50% off

      Reply

      Lowell Hill

      8 years ago

      Nope Callaway gonna buy them

      Reply

      Lowell Hill

      8 years ago

      Explains the whole sale because Taylor Made needs help and can’t do it on their own like they said they could (see what I did there)

      Reply

      Eric Tryon

      8 years ago

      M3 will be out in September anyways lol

      Reply

      Michael Gibson

      8 years ago

      M2 is a even number lol

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      8 years ago

      $500mm is a horrible price. The last two FY’s saw $100 million plus net revenue losses. Adidas, just two years ago, referred to TM as “the 400lb anchor around our neck”. Without the footwear and apparel portions (you know, the profitable ones) of the business, I’m afraid I don’t see the point. If Under Armour wants to get into the club business, they’d be far better off with their own brand and investing $500 million in development…just steal a handful of key individuals in R&D from TM.

      Actually, in my honest opinion, Adams is the most viable part of the deal…it was a fantastic company with a strong following before TM destroyed it.

      Good luck to them with getting rid of their financial disaster.

      Reply

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      Adams has no value whatsoever…other than a niche feel-good following. There’s zero intellectual property and the guys that made the brand have all moved on. It’s a logo…nothing more.

      There’s been a few numbers floated around…+/- the generous ballpark $500MM (I’ve heard everything from 400MM to 600MM+ was sort of the happy number, but insiders I’ve spoken with don’t think much above 200MM is realistic. Putting a value on a company isn’t my expertise, but I think without the apparel lines, the lower number makes a lot more sense. Price is almost inconsequential at this point. Now it’s about who buys it, and what they ultimately do with it.

      Reply

      Raj LP

      8 years ago

      Good point. You can start fresh without the baggage. Clubs can be manufactured easily in China as there are CHinese manufacturers which currently supply multiple OEMs from the same factory.

      Reply

      Fran

      8 years ago

      I hope the Adams brand survives along with their employees. As of now the company seems to be dead in the water with most if not all of their club designers moving to different OEM’s. I was certain despite assurances to the contrary that Adidas-Taylor made would allow Adams to operate independently that they would appropriate the hybrid and fairway technology that Adams was famous for and leave the company to rot which is exactly what they did. I wish Barney Adams would have sold to someone who would have shown more concern for his people. It would be karma for someone to do the same to Taylor Made golf now. personally, I wouldn’t miss them one bit.

      Reply

      Daniel Bucek

      8 years ago

      This is old news, isn’t it….?

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      Well depends on how you look at it. We gave this news in Jan., yet Taylormade denied it. Now it is official. So we see it as old news but now official news.

      Reply

      Kyle Wright

      8 years ago

      Good follow up… !!??

      Reply

      Mike Biguenet

      8 years ago

      Under Armor potential buyer?

      Reply

      Shane M. Werley

      8 years ago

      Should be interesting in another 6 months when they release a new version of TaylorMade for sale.

      Reply

      Ryan Holcomb

      8 years ago

      Muhahaha MUHAHHAAAHA!!!

      Reply

      Ryan Holcomb

      8 years ago

      Wait six weeks and this TM For Sale will be discounted when the TM For Sale M,R,13 is released?

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      8 years ago

      The new version of Taylormade will be $600 million instead of $500 million but it’ll go 17 yards further. But really not.

      Reply

      Shane M. Werley

      8 years ago

      Good one. Zing.

      Reply

      Pranav Ramakanthan

      8 years ago

      Hope it’ll be Under Armour or Footjoy

      Reply

      Ryan Holcomb

      8 years ago

      Footjoy? Footjoy is owned under the same conglomerate as Titleist, so that would be hilarious to market.

      Reply

      Will Jones

      8 years ago

      Underarmor is trying to get their foot in the door with club making….it would be risky if they acquired TM.

      Reply

      Pat

      8 years ago

      FJ is under the Acushnet umbrella.

      Reply

      Jarrad Kogos

      8 years ago

      acushnet couldn’t afford to keep cobra

      Reply

      Joseph Dreitler

      8 years ago

      Won’t be acushnet. Who wants to buy a loser..bleeding red ink

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      8 years ago

      Acushnet understands profit…shoes and golf balls. They’re out. Also, they don’t need the brand push.

      UA would be far better served stealing away a couple R&D guys and doing their own line. Too much financial risk and not enough brand value by adding TM.

      Reply

      Robert

      8 years ago

      Remember when they got pissed at MGS for saying they were going to sell? I remember.

      Reply

      Teaj

      8 years ago

      we’re not for sale…… just kidding, we’re for sale

      Reply

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