Cobra Updates MyGolfSpy’s Most Wanted Driver of 2015
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Cobra Updates MyGolfSpy’s Most Wanted Driver of 2015

Cobra Updates MyGolfSpy’s Most Wanted Driver of 2015
If you’re not already, it’s time to start paying attention to Cobra

Written By: Tony Covey

With today’s announcement of Cobra’s KING F6 Series of metalwoods intelligent golfers may finally realize that taglines, no matter how clever, are just words. So forget about unmetal woods and leaving no yard behind. Take a moment instead to focus on the kind of real performance that comes from tangible industry-leading mass properties.

I’m talking about actual physics. There can be no argument with that…or so I’ve heard.

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F6 Joins the LTD

It wasn’t that long ago that Cobra announced the KING LTD, a 100% performance driven driver with no adjustability beyond the hosel. The KING LTD just hit stores last week, and so while it would be easy to joke that Cobra has undertaken a release cycle so accelerated that it would make Callaway and TaylorMade blush, the truth is that F6 doesn’t usurp the KING LTD.

With F6 Cobra is simply rounding out the KING lineup with replacements for the FLY-Z and FLY-Z+.

We’ll get to the distinctions between F6 products below, but for those already wondering about LTD vs. F6; the former is all about performance, while the latter (F6) is about is about personalization (that includes color and weighting), versatility, and fitting a wider range of golfers.

Cobra KING F6+

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One of things I most enjoy about sitting down with the team at Cobra Golf is that they have absolutely no reservations about their technology. They’ll show you where they’re strong, where certain competitors excel, they’ll show you the actual physics behind their products, and they’ll tell you exactly how they achieved their mass properties.

So with all of that in mind, let’s look at what Cobra hoped to accomplish with the F6+ driver.

Three Objectives

  • Increase the performance of the head; specifically by lowering the CGNA while maintaining high inertia.
  • Bring Flip Zone technology to a wider audience by increasing the adjustability range.
  • Simplify color offerings while maintaining classic look at address.

That classic part is for you. Simplifying offerings – tightening up the range to focus on best-selling colors, that’s more about the economics of golf. Ultimately a little less choice is better for both Cobra and its retail partners.

For those skipping over the bullet points your takeaway is that with F6+, Cobra wasn’t looking to make a newer Fly-Z+, they wanted to make a better FLY-Z+.

So how did Cobra do it?

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As the avid MGS readers among you should be able to guess, the answer lies in updates to F6+’s mass properties.

For the uninitiated, the simple answer is that to improve over FLY-Z+, Cobra needed to find ways to save and strategically reallocate mass. That’s certainly not a unique story within the golf industry, but when you consider the year over year evolution of Cobra’s product lines, it’s hard to argue that anyone in the industry is doing a better job moving mass than Cobra.

Some of the hows of the F6+ design are reasonably standard issue mass savings stuff. With its carbon fiber crown Cobra was already saving 12 grams over titanium. Another 6 grams was saved by moving to a Ti811 alloy for the face and body. As you may recall from our coverage of the KING LTD release, Ti811 is stronger and lighter than the Ti 6-4 used in the FLY-Z+. It’s your basic strength to weight ratio play.

Another one-half of one gram (as Cobra’s Mike Yagley told me last year, “we’re sub-gram fisticuffs in R&D”) came from refinements to Cobra’s Speed Channel face technology.

A little here and there is good, but the biggest chunk of new-found mass savings came from a redesign of the track system that supported last season’s FlipZone weighting.

CarbonTrac

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New to the F6+ is what Cobra calls CarbonTrac, which as the name suggests is a track (trac) system built entirely from Carbon fiber. The previous FlipZone structure was built entirely of titanium. Moving to a carbon fiber design saved an additional 8 grams.

With all of that extra weight laying around, Cobra was able to increase the amount of movable weight to 18 grams (up from 15), and increase the surface area over which weight can be moved. The end result is 6mm of  potential center of gravity movement, and approximately 600 RPM of total spin change from front to back.

For the sake of comparison, last year’s FLY-Z+ offered approximately 450-500 RPM change between the front and back positions.

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Five Settings…and Four More

To simplify the fitting equation, Cobra will advertise F6+ as having 5 distinct weight positions, but the CarbonTrac is designed to secure the weight in intermediate positions as well, which means F6+ actually has 9 distinct weight positions.

Why not advertise all nine? Five is manageable and the differences between positions can already be difficult to convey to the average consumer. Nine…that’s perhaps overwhelming, but they’re there if you want/need them.

Cobra believes that once everybody else’s everything is on the market, F6+ will prove to offer the lowest CGNA of any movable weight driver.

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Cobra KING F6+ Pro

Following the blueprint of the KING LTD, KING F6+ will also be available in a pro model. Like KING LTD, this isn’t one of those bigger/smaller stories. There are three distinct differences between the standard F6+ and F6+ Pro:

  • The nominal loft (effectively the middle of the loft range) is 2° lower with the Pro model (10.5 standard vs. 8.5 Pro°).
  • The pro model offers a flatter lie angle (you might call that a fade bias).
  • While the standard model offers draw settings at 9.5°, 10.5°, and 11.5, the Pro model offers fade settings at 7.5°, 8.5°, and 9.5°.

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While Cobra doesn’t plan on billing itself as a bargain brand any time soon, the company believes that KING F6+ offers golfer better performance and greater front to back adjustability, for $100 less than TaylorMade’s M1.

Pricing, Colors, and Availability

Cobra F6+ and F6+ Pro drivers will be available at retail beginning 1/15 for $399. The reduced color lineup includes black, white, blue, and Turbulence/Gecko Green (shipping in March). Additional colors (orange, for example) will be available through Cobra’s custom department.

The stock shaft in the F6+ is a Matrix Black Tie, but it’s worth noting that, like many of its competitors, Cobra will offer 18 no charge upgrades ranging in weight from 42 to 75 grams.

Cobra KING F6 Driver

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For KING F6, the objectives weren’t much different than they were for F6+. We can summarize by saying Cobra wanted to create a measurably better driver than what came before it.

In addition to SmartPad, MyFly, and Speed Channel (common to the entire KING family), it should be pointed out immediately that the KING F6 now includes an adjustable front to back weighting system similar to what we saw with FLY-Z+.

More on that in a just a moment.

Unlike the unmetal (carbon fiber) F6+, the standard F6 features all titanium construction. This year’s design is made from Ti 811, which saves a bit of weight over the 6-4 Ti found in FLY-Z.  Like FLY-Z, F6 is designed to be a comparatively low CGNA, high MOI driver. It’s a perfect compliment to the F6+, and will likely offer the highest MOI of any non-PING driver on the market.

It’s Shape, Not Volume

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We know looks matter, which is why Cobra wants people to stop talking about volume and CCs and spend a little more time discussing shape. Mass properties and by extension performance are largely the result of shaping, not size. Shape is a large part of what enables engineers to reach their mass properties specifications.

Both F6+ and F6 are 460cc drivers, but the shapes are noticeably different. While F6+ fits the bill as traditional, the standard model has a shallower face and a deeper body.

It’s a design that allows more mass to be pushed towards the rear of the club to boost MOI. While not traditional, the F6 design is still with the realm of conventional. I doubt many will find it off-putting.

Spare Parts

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A bizarre aside that those who you who will demo (and perhaps buy) the King F6…

While the F6 ships with 10 gram and 3 gram weights installed, the latter is completely unnecessary. Take it out…leave it out. Seriously.

You don’t need it. You don’t want it.

The original and intended design spec of the KING F6 features a single 10 gram weight which can be positioned in either the front for lower spin and a more penetrating trajectory, or in the back for easier squaring and greater forgiveness.

KING F6 was designed to be a one weight system.

Unfortunately for Cobra, and to the determent of F6 players, some retailers felt that an open weight port made the design look unfinished.

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Cobra caved and gave the retailers what they wanted, but it that doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. Retailers want your money, we want you to succeed on the golf course, so here’s your truth bomb du jour:

The 2nd weight is totally unnecessary. The driver is USGA conforming without it, and while a superfluous 3 grams might make the driver look a little prettier on the shelf of your friendly neighborhood big box, it limits the amount of CG movement, and ultimately will reduce the performance of the driver.

It’s form over function. Whether testing or buying, take the translucent weight out and don’t ever put it back in.

For real.

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The Co-Engineered Shaft Controversy

If there’s something to grumble about with the F6, here it is. The Matrix Red Tie that ships with the King F6 isn’t a true aftermarket equivalent. It’s what we often call made-for. I know…the made-for shaft is the bane of many of our existences (even if we’re all a bit guilty of blowing it out of proportion). While the Cobra variant features the same bend profile as a real Red Tie, the torque is a little bit higher, and there are some material differences as well. Cobra’s internal testing revealed that few players – even better players – can tell the difference.

Should we take this to mean Cobra is cutting corners? Certainly, I see that argument, but Cobra believes in the performance of its co-engineered product, and more to the point, the modest design differences compared to the aftermarket shaft save the company $10 per club; money which Cobra put into making a better head.

I understand the concerns, but after a detailed discussion, I’m inclined to believe that for the overwhelming majority of golfers, it’s much ado about absolutely nothing.

And here’s something else to consider. Regardless of what consumers are told, Cobra is far from alone. While claims sometimes suggest otherwise, there isn’t a single $349 (or under) driver on the market today that ships stock with a true aftermarket equivalent shaft. I’m told that if any manufacturer tells you differently, it’s playing fast and loose with the truth.

That said, all of Cobra’s no charge upgrade shafts are true aftermarket, real-deal shafts. If you don’t believe that Cobra’s Red Tie is right for you, order a real one (or one of 17 other no charge upgrades) through custom.

Pricing, Colors, and Availability

Cobra F6 drivers will be available at retail beginning 1/15 for $349 in your choice of black, white, blue, or Turbulence (grey) /Gecko Green (shipping in March). Additional colors will again be available through custom.

The stock shaft is a co-engineered Matrix Red Tie. 18 real-deal, no charge upgrades ranging in weight from 42 to 75 grams are also available.

KING F6 vs. KING F6+

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We want to provide you with several different options for comparing not only the new drivers, but the new drivers to the previous generation of Cobra drivers. We know many of you want to see how the KING Series stacks up to the 2016 competition from a CG perspective. We’re working on updating our charts and we’ll get that info to you, but for now, I really want you to focus on Cobra.

Specifically, there are two things I’m hoping you’ll take away from these next two charts.

Firstly, not all golfers are the same, and so not all drivers are the same. There are forward CG guys and back CG guys. There are low CG guys, and even a few high CG guys. While clubs may perform similarly across a wide range of golfers, you’ll see that as we examine clubs designed for individual swing characteristics, performance differences can be substantial.

Secondly, the KING Series isn’t FLY-Z with new paint. Cobra has moved its CG positions on both new models by a fairly significant margin. Few, if any others, in the industry will show this level of year over year progress. This is no small thing.

CGNA (the Neutral Axis)

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The above chart shows the center of gravity of each driver relative to the neutral axis. If you don’t know what that is, you’ll want to read this. As a reminder, as the CG moves lower, ball speed and launch angle increase and spin decreases. As the CG moves back, MOI and dynamic closure rate increase. This not only improves forgiveness, but it also results in a head that’s easier to square up at impact.

On a comparative basis, we see that both F6 models offer lower CG than comparable FLY-Z models. The end result should be higher launch, lower spin, and ultimately more distance.

Maximum (rear-most weight position) MOI has been increased slightly on the F6+ and decreased slightly on the standard model. While the chart suggests that there is some overlap insomuch as a F6+ with the weight all the way back sits very close to F6 with the weight forward, in actuality, it’s not so much overlap as it is continuation.

Conceptually, F6 forward is a bit like F6+ with the weight in the non-existent 6 position. It’s simply the next step towards more forgiveness.

Center of Gravity in Space

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Here we see the center of gravity positions without regard for loft (or the neutral axis). Basically, it’s the CG locations as they exist floating within the internal space of the clubhead.

This view shows us a few interesting things. Notice how substantial the CG movement is, even with the single weight configuration of the F6. Effectively Cobra has created a lower CG, more forgiving version of the FLY-Z+.

KING F6+ is particularly intriguing as it offers the most significant CG movement of any driver on the market. This chart also illustrates how CG position is tied to shape. Note how the FG+’s CG locations trace the outline of a drivers sole at the various positions. As I said earlier, shape is important.

In Terms Everyone Can Understand

We get it, not everyone wants to dig into the minutia (important minutia) of CG location, so we’re sharing Cobra’s charts that illustrate how the various CG positions offered by the KING F6 and KING F6+ impact their actual performance characteristics.

trajectory view

This graphic shows F6 and F6+ trajectories.

From the top down it’s KING F6 Back to KING F6+ Forward. As you can see, as weight moves forward, ball flight transitions from high to what Cobra calls penetrating. Note the transition from F6 weight forward (dark orange) to F6+ weight back (white).

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The chart above compares spin rates and trajectory height (not the same as launch angle) between F6 models.

As you would expect, the peak trajectory curve follows the CG movement front to back, with back CG configurations producing the highest peak peak trajectories. The chart suggests about 5 yards difference front to back with the F6+ and approximately 3 yards with the KING F6.

Again, the launch and spin properties of the two drivers and their various weight positions track along a predictable path. The apparent anomaly is the KING LTD, which despite offering a lower peak trajectory than the F6+, actually launches nearly as high as the F6. The reason is the extremely low CGNA which adds a substantial amount of dynamic loft leading into impact.

Hands-On – Which is Right For You?

I’ve been playing the KING LTD since the day it was announced, I’m experimenting (weather permitting) with an LTD Pro, and I had a chance to hit both the F6+ and the F6 on a recent visit with Cobra (although in the interest of not being full of shit I should tell you that my back locked up on me so it was far from a complete test).  That being said, I think I’ve got a pretty good sense of where everything in Cobra’s 2016 comes together.

KING F6+

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F6+ is the easy answer for a true forward CG guy. You like SLDR, and Double Black Diamond, and JPX-850…maybe even M1, and you’re happy to give up some MOI to keep your spin down, F6+ is what you’re looking for. In the front position, it should prove to be an absolute beast.

The combination of low CG along with high MOI (position 5’s MOI is roughly equivalent to that of a Titleist D915 D2) should also appeal to guys looking for higher launch with lower spin than you’d expect from a forgiving driver. If you love PING’s G30 LS Tec for example, the F6+ with the weight in position 4 might just blow your mind.

Take just a moment to think about that…low/forward CG at one extreme, and among the highest MOI in golf at the other. That’s an extremely effective implementation of movable CG.

While the performance of the F6+ is impressive, it’s that adjustability range that should prove particularly appealing for tinkerers or anyone else who might want to move weight around to suit the conditions (or your swing). The CarbonTrac weighting system gives Cobra the flexibility to cover a wide range of golfers with a single club.

With all of that said, I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that the driver is a bit louder (deep loud…like PING) than I care for. I believe it’s going to be an issue for some.

KING F6

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With the KING F6 (standard model), the real selling point for me is the increased playability. For higher spin guys, FLY-Z wasn’t really an option, the lower CG and forward weight option potentially puts KING F6 into play. While allowing for the fact that I was far from 100% when hitting the new models side by side, the F6 unquestionably produced the most consistent and inarguably best results. Spin numbers were a bit higher than I (or anyone else) would consider ideal, but it’s hard to argue with a repeatable high draw.

As was the case with FLY-Z, KING F6 should prove a worthy adversary for the PING G30 (or whatever comes after it), Titleist 915 D2, and Callaway’s Great Big Bertha. With the exception of the G30, the F6 will offer higher MOI, and because Cobra pushed the CG lower, that forgiveness will come with a more efficient energy transfer between club and ball, and a lesser spin penalty than the alternatives.

For those simply seeking maximum forgiveness, F6 should also be on what is admittedly a very short list.

I’m also going to mention that I find the sound more appealing than that of the F6+.

KING LTD

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The KING LTD, by most reasonable measures remains an outlier. It has the lowest CGNA of any driver on the mass market, while still offering MOI above the industry average. If you don’t need G30-type forgiveness, you don’t need extremely forward CG (low launch, low spin), you don’t perpetually hit the ball extremely high on the face, and you don’t need adjustability, the LTD, I believe remains, the single most compelling driver offering in golf.

Like anything else, however; it’s not for everyone, and the $450 price tag is perhaps prohibitive. The good news is that Cobra has other options, and for many who take them into the hitting bay and give them a fair shake against what else is out there, will, more often than not, find themselves pleasantly surprised.

Just remember to remove the extra weight first.

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      Bernt Ersson

      8 years ago

      I have tried the F6 and it is more consistent ang goes further than my previous drivers (Cobra L5V, Taylor Made R9 and R11) with comparable shafts. I play 10,5 degree club heads set square, not set draw. Hcp 9.
      Above all, the F6 was more forgiving. Mishits resulted in better driver distance than I have seen before.
      Strangely I had a consistent slight fade with the F6, I have always had a draw with my Taylor Made drivers. I suppose I will have to alter the settings maybe…
      Even so and with the fade, the F6 produced longer drivers.
      The first time I used the F6 I played on my hcp on a really wet spring course with no roll, temp 46 F, outdriving my buddies.
      I hope this was not a one time thing…haha

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      Keith

      8 years ago

      Love my BioCell. And I find stock stiff made for shaft perfect for my 95 mph swing. Actually swapped out a Diamana blue board+ for it… Looking forward to F6.

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      Dathan Duncan

      8 years ago

      I’ve already found my miracle club. Would be fun to try though.

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      Bob Doerr

      8 years ago

      Fly Z+ is a sneaky good driver. Happy to game it.

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      Leigh

      8 years ago

      There are so many Cobra driver options now….

      A few years ago, I purchased an Amp Cell Pro with Kuro Kage S 60g….

      What Cobra model presently replicates this head and shaft? This has been by far the best driver I have owned for hitting fairways. Distance is not the concern for me, but accuracy and forgiveness are. The KK shaft feels a large part in this equation, but possibly a touch light (my irons are DG X100)

      Can anyone shed any light on this?

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      gunmetal

      8 years ago

      Could someone paint a picture for me of what “Turbulence/Gecko Green” looks like?

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      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      Turbulence/Gecko is shown in the pic under ‘5 Settings + 4 More’.

      It’s basically a deep grey with a vibrant green.

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      Anthony

      8 years ago

      I would really like to try asap, I hope that will help me on my slicing.

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      jarvos

      8 years ago

      What a great writeup, just fantastic. I bought the FlyZ last year but this is making me think I should have waited a year :) I really like the way Cobra is putting everything into the weight savings to utilize in other portions of the driver head.

      What I REALLY want to see is for Golfspy to put these new ones up against last year’s models. That is really what is key to me, you can say all of this stuff about really improving everything from last year’s offering, but what does it really equal, in reality? I would love to see that, and frankly, I would love to see them put an older generation driver in the test as a constant to see how far we’ve come. Ping G20 or something similar, maybe 6 or 7 years old. That would really be a selling point for guys that are on the fence with older gear that just doesn’t know what improvement he stands to see on the course if he switches.

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      GreenDoor

      8 years ago

      So hopefully someone here can help confirm/deny what I was told at G.G. up near Philly the other night. I went in to test out the new King LTD and both an associate and the shift manager stated that they (G.G. corporately) would not be carrying the Cobra King LTD in stores. I said, “you mean just this store?”, and they both said no, every G.G. store. They said it was because they don’t sell many Cobra drivers and this one seemed especially gimmicky.

      They must have been mistaken as I can’t imagine a national retailer deciding not to carry a driver of this capability.

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      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      @GreenDoor, I think there are a few things at play with what you were told.

      Retail is being much more cautious/responsible (pick your adjective) when it comes to inventory levels. Wasn’t that long ago that Dick’s/GG and GolfSmith would order all doors, all skus (basically every shop got everything), now there’s much greater emphasis placed on sensible inventory management. Not every store gets every product anymore.

      That said, it sounds like the staff you encountered didn’t know the full story and may have filled in some holes on their own. Yes, initial distribution of the KING LTD is limited. That’s due in part to retail realities, as well as a limited supply of product at launch (manufacturers are also being responsible about inventory management). It’s on the shelves right now at the Top 10 performing Golf Galaxy stores in the country. That stuff about it being perceived as gimmicky is likely coming from a salesperson who probably doesn’t have a full understanding of what the KING LTD is about. That stuff about Golf Galaxy not carrying it is just wrong.

      Long story short, Basically it’s being sold where past performance suggests it will sell. As manufacturer inventory increases, so too will retail distribution, but as you might imagine, lower performing stores will be the last to get it.

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      Dar Lee

      8 years ago

      I wanted the bio cell plus with 440cc driver but hang on long enough to wait for fly z.. I got one.. But I felt that even I fit it to 9.5 degree the ball flight still high… Even fitted it with tour ad bb low launch shaft. Was thinking maybe king cobra Ltd is the solution.. Ha.. But this the launch of another new model F6…….. Too fast cobra…….. They will be going into the same path as TaylorMade…. Too fast launch with made the price of previous model drop too fast and reduce confidence of golfer it the new technology is real or just marketing gimmicks…… Let’s see if the new model can made a name by itself……

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      webh

      8 years ago

      I recently bought the Cobra Amp Cell irons which come 4-PW. Had previously been playing
      with Ping I for many years and played to a 9 handicap. As I got older I needed a lighter club
      with graphite shafts and found the answer in these clubs. Playing to a 15 now but really feel the difference in there irons. Big fan of Cobra now, but am put-off by the aesthetics of the new drivers. Won’t the sliders and adjuster just collect dirt and debris and just how often will one adjust these miracle drivers? Saying that I may try the Cobra Fly-Z driver and put away my Callaway.

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      labillyboy

      8 years ago

      Still have my RAZR Hawk Tour with an ahina shaft in it… not even sure how long I’ve had it… All I know is I hit fairways and get big distance out of it. It’s kept me from even trying anything else for several years at least. I’m not sure what will ever prompt me to spend money on a new driver, probably not this… Oh and I am the same guy who used to buy a new driver every 3 months and at one time had 3 TM TP’s bought within days of each other… Guess I was cured.

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      Lauyar

      8 years ago

      Great write up Tony! Just as you feel which is totally refreshing.

      I will get to test drive these lovely Cobra weapons at the F6 & F6+ launch next week in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia & will keep all posted.

      They already did a nice job with the FlyZ, so these latest offerings will be interesting.

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      JSF

      8 years ago

      While I’ve never let what a pro golfer uses influence what I buy, I’ve found it hard to ignore Cobra of late. Norman was my favorite when he was around, now I like Rickie. I recently bought a new Cobra Amp Cell driver that was too inexpensive to pass up. Those new irons sure look nice. Who knows, maybe I’ll end up a Cobra guy after all if Cobra also stays as the best value in golf.

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      Andre Thaon

      8 years ago

      This is real fun.

      Cobra just embracing TaylorMade marketing “technology”.

      As the TaylorMade reps always say, you need to have “visible technology”. Indeed, this is the only area where OEM can compete and tell nice stories.

      No doubt Cobra will have some success with it.

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      Steve

      8 years ago

      I’ll be interested in the 2016 MySpy driver test. I’ll bet that for under 100mph swingers the top 5 will all be within a couple yards of each other just like the 2015 test. Golf companies have to come up with something new every year to get us to spend our money. Sad thing is size and COR maximums limit what engineers can do with drivers.

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      Paul

      8 years ago

      Excellent stuff! Excellent!!! I can’t wait to give these a try. I absolutely love my G30 and I have no complaints…. But, as with most tinkerers, if I can keep the ball going straight but add yards, I could be up for a change. It’s really cool to see what amazing things Cibra is doing with their drivers. It’s not just “orange and Rickie”! It’s actual technology! Most buy because of “orange and Rickie”, but REAL golfers buy because of the improvement they see after a fitting. Get these in true golfers’ hands and these could compete with G30 in sales!!!! Plus, people can still have their orange if they want too!!!!

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      Jim H

      8 years ago

      This is the very best technical golf club review I have read in over 50 years. Your explanations, charts and pictures were truly exceptional. Although I love my G25, I can’t wait for warmer weather in April to try the Cobra. I played the SS 380 years ago and it was the longest driver I had ever hit at that time. Thank you for all the effort you expended to provide us with such an excellent presentation.

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      retiredRichard

      8 years ago

      Tony-Any mention that the weights on the 2 F’s can be changed out (realizing it changes other factors as well)? Some of us like shorter drivers-hitting the center of the face more often is fun.

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      Dennis Clark

      8 years ago

      play the cobra bio cell driver

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      Tom S

      8 years ago

      Ping G20 for me. Still.

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      Setter02

      8 years ago

      Seems to be a little too Cobra Fanboyish in some parts of the review especially when talking about moving 10g of weight and its actual results.

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      Troy

      8 years ago

      I’ve been using Cobra drivers for the last 5 years and think they are as good as all the other tops brands.

      Can’t wait to get my hands on the F6!

      Cheers

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      NevinW

      8 years ago

      Two of my frequent golfing partners switched from SLDR drivers to Cobra Fly-Z drivers this summer and saw immediate substantial increases in distance. I’ve been really impressed by how much further they hit that club. Both got fitted for the SLDR and the Cobra. Clearly Cobra is doing very well and people are starting to notice. I’m going to try these new drivers myself although I’ve said in the past that they will take my XHot2 Pro driver rom me when the pry it from my cold dead hands.

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      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      You have a point, every club wont work for every golfer, simply because a new one is released does not mean it is the miracle club for you.

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      Conny Elfström

      8 years ago

      Dags att byta för dig nu magnus Magnus Andrén

      Reply

      Dan Newman

      8 years ago

      F6 drive looks mint in the turbulent fluro green ?

      Reply

      Dan Newman

      8 years ago

      Type into google images the king cobra f6 and you’ll see he irons. Seem to be a little closer to game improvement irons than I was hoping for. Not forged either

      Reply

      Travis Jack

      8 years ago

      Matrix shaft

      Reply

      Travis Jack

      8 years ago

      Just the driver

      Reply

      Travis Jack

      8 years ago

      Na kings are boss,

      Reply

      Daniel Head

      8 years ago

      Haha cant wait for the irons

      Reply

      Travis Jack

      8 years ago

      I know feel silly

      Reply

      Alexander Katholos

      8 years ago

      Grant Thomas you were right

      Reply

      Mitch Kellehear

      8 years ago

      Ethan Morris

      Reply

      Nat Twang

      8 years ago

      Copyright ?

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      hckymeyer

      8 years ago

      Forgot to add that I’m really liking the new Launch + Spin graphs. I know you are working on updated the CG location charts, but I’d love to see that Launch/Spin graph expanded out to the rest of the field as well.

      And since I’m being selfish can you put the SLDR in the graph as well?

      Reply

      Darren Tan

      8 years ago

      Tony,

      This is one of the most detailed article I’ve read on MGS and kudos to you for explaining clearly the differentiation of Cobra’s products. I’m gaming a Bio Cell and my son is using a Bio Cell Pro.
      I went to demo the King Ltd recently and was impressed but the price tag is killer(500+ USD). And the stock shaft was a Tour AD one with no mention of model so it’s tough to compare. Due to our location there is also no chance of a custom shaft upgrade besides buying an aftermarket one and installing it ourselves.

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      Foster Atteberry

      8 years ago

      I like it……in Blue!

      Reply

      Kenny B

      8 years ago

      Of course you would!

      Reply

      Cast Ste

      8 years ago

      Holy shit, now we get to hear all the winning about cobra. Why are they putting new clubs out . They just released the fly z. For goodness sakes, They are different clubs suited for different people. Why does ford offer so many different models. Maybe I need a truck, maybe I need a mustang. Facebook needs a STFU button for whiners. Smh

      Reply

      Haubs

      8 years ago

      This is one of the best reviews I have ever read. Well done Tony!!

      Really excited about the new Cobra offerings. I’ve been using the BC+ the last year, and love it but could definitely use extra forgiveness, and these seem to fit the bill!

      Reply

      Markus Viljanen

      8 years ago

      Cobra does do good clubs, but I wonder do they release them a bit too often these days..

      Reply

      Daniel Di Savia

      8 years ago

      In orange would be sick

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      Gil Bloomer

      8 years ago

      I know it’s been said before but, why do these manufacturers and/or companies come out with the latest and greatest club(s) when the latest and greatest don’t even have dust on them at the retail stores that they just introduced about a week earlier? I guess all the bells and whistles don’t mean much when they continue to introduce new designs once a month.

      Reply

      Kent Stridsberg

      8 years ago

      Upp till bevis när den kommer:) hoppas då vi får lite roliga skaft. Precis som vi kommer få i taylormade:)

      Reply

      Tony Powe

      8 years ago

      “LOVE Cobra Golf”. . . Period!!!

      Reply

      Kent Stridsberg

      8 years ago

      Vadå dissar??? Taylormade har så många fantastiska produkter så de vill att folket skall ta del av deras revolutionerande produkter:)

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      Nclas Dgnelid

      8 years ago

      Helt säker på att PSI är en kanon klubba. TM gör inga dåliga grejer. I min erfarenhet i alla fall.
      Men den påminner ju väldigt om RSI2.

      Absolut ingen diss !!

      Men man släppte den lite tajt inpå

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      Nclas Dgnelid

      8 years ago

      Utöver det vanliga ? Varför ingen rymdstation i den nya ?

      Reply

      Alex Birchall

      8 years ago

      David Doyle there is zero difference between this and the flyz +

      Reply

      David Doyle

      8 years ago

      Man its better than the fly z + it’s lighter. Made from tougher material and had better spin

      Reply

      Alex Birchall

      8 years ago

      That’s littrepy nothing I’d say it’s only .1 of a difference

      Reply

      David Doyle

      8 years ago

      Not really man that’s a lot of fairly substantial differences. Technology in it is very very good

      Reply

      Alex Birchall

      8 years ago

      It’s the exact same

      Reply

      Alex Birchall

      8 years ago

      Just fucking looks different hagq

      Reply

      David Doyle

      8 years ago

      I read the full article man they’ve changed loads

      Reply

      Alex Birchall

      8 years ago

      It’s got everything mine has and fen all else

      Reply

      John Benda Benzie

      8 years ago

      The King 3 wood goes as far as any driver I’ve hit. Give it a go

      Reply

      Alex Birchall

      8 years ago

      I hit my driver no less than 320 yards and can only carry my 3 wood 240 I’m fine

      Reply

      David Doyle

      8 years ago

      Dieing to try the king range. Wouldn’t mind a upgrade from my amp cells

      Reply

      Alex Birchall

      8 years ago

      I’ve just been fitted with a flyz + so I’m good

      Reply

      Henrik Lundberg

      8 years ago

      M1 copy.

      Reply

      Fozcycle

      8 years ago

      Disagree, while the M1 can adjust spin by 300 rpm, the Conra can adjust spin up to 600 rpm difference.

      Reply

      Kent Stridsberg

      8 years ago

      Inte cobra vanligtvis väl? Ltd är ju något utöver det vanliga:)

      Reply

      Johnny Ra Ra

      8 years ago

      Making great drivers but too many released. Just moved from bio cell + to fly z+ then the King came back, now these. Obviously Tom has brought the TM release cycle with him

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      Many criticize the fast paced release cycle that currently encompasses the golf industry. However, not every piece of equipment plays the same from player to player. What is it about this high-output release cycle that makes you cringe?

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      Johnny Ra Ra

      8 years ago

      I never mentioned cringing but since you asked. How bout products not holding value aka callaway and TM drivers. Wasn’t TM quoted as saying the SLDR will never be discounted? How’d that go? Discounted everywhere. I understand different clubs suit different levels of player,the fly z+ barely made it a season before the King came along. Now the F6 line is to replace the fly z line already. Check out a callaway/TM Instagram pages of people whinging about buying the latest driver to see it discounted just months later. I’ve hit the bio cell + fly z + and both Kings and the distance gained for ME was debatable. For the record I’m playing off scratch

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      Johnny Ra Ra

      8 years ago

      This is a screen shot from mygolfspy.com now check TM page and guess what? SLDR driver REDUCED from $399 to $179. These are the marketing lines that make people ‘cringe’ as you put it. I merely mentioned the release cycle.

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      Erik Newman

      8 years ago

      Releasing new products is simply for marketing. It shows the companies technological progress. A different approach to say, Titleist or Nike where they release only a few products every season but let’s be honest. As technology advances it only excites manufacturers to create the “latest and greatest.” Personally, I love it. It keeps golf exciting and just makes more clubs to try at demos. ?

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      Johnny Ra Ra

      8 years ago

      ^^^^^ golf companies will love you then!! If new toys make golf exciting for you that’s awesome. This is the reason I buy 2nd hand,someone gets a new toy and sells they’re one hit wonders half price. Perfect cycle for me ?

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      Nclas Dgnelid

      8 years ago

      Cobra, Callaway och TM trycker ut lite för mycket grejer kan jag tycka. LTD har ju precis kommit ut. För att inte tala om RSI2 vs PSI !

      Titleist och Mizuno har lite sundare inställning tycker jag.

      Reply

      Kent Stridsberg

      8 years ago

      Min efterföljare. F6+ med fadeinställning:)

      Reply

      AndyUk

      8 years ago

      I’d love to be a fly on the wall at one of those chats with Cobra to find out the inside track on some of the other manufacturers ‘tech’.

      Look forward to trying F6 but its released a week before my first child is due to be born so getting it or anything else in the bag might take some sort stealth operation

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      CG Freak

      8 years ago

      When updating chart please also update TaylorMade M1 data

      Reply

      Sharkhark

      8 years ago

      I know some like these tech mumbo jumbo breakdowns but I literally got lost completely half way they thru.
      I honestly think that you absolutely need a fitting or else adjusting all this stuff would be beyond me

      Reply

      Srinath Rajam

      8 years ago

      Scott Ough….can u get one for me and courier to India pl? F6? Thx

      Reply

      Scott Ough

      8 years ago

      Sorry, we don’t sell cobra. Hope you are well!

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      Srinath Rajam

      8 years ago

      Game is good Scott Ough…the 2 lessons with u amongst the best I have had past 25 years…got my draw back and helped me gain 20 yds on my drives…for me this is huge!

      Reply

      McaseyM

      8 years ago

      I just picked up a Fly Z+ last summer after getting a fitting and LOVE IT! i’m a little torn on adjustability as I like the options to try to perfect the settings to my swing, but too many adjustment options can be confusing. I know I’m not a good enough player to likely notice the smaller differences, but I am very happy to see Cobra going after it with design.

      Reply

      Fozcycle

      8 years ago

      I got a Fly Z+ off ebay recently….tried weight forward, then weight in rear…..I like the rear weight. How does this differ from the Bio Cell, other than the speed channel?

      Reply

      Guy Crawford

      8 years ago

      Already there but dang the LTD hasn’t even been out a week.

      Reply

      Joshua Mcintosh

      8 years ago

      $700 vs $400 2 good options

      Reply

      Mick Yelovich

      8 years ago

      Krank is the formula 6. Also known as the F6

      Reply

      Andrew Williams

      8 years ago

      That’s what I was thinking
      Straight ripping off lance
      Even the same color scheme

      Reply

      Cormac Finn

      8 years ago

      I’ve been using the FG Tour irons for the past five years and have had the original FG Tour set and currently V2 irons. I am considering a new set and an torn between what’s the best way to go? I play off scratch handicap and I was thinking a while back of a combo set made up of the V4 (4/5/6iron) and the blades ( 7-PW)..I am now looking at the F5’s as an option and having read this piece I’m thinking are these a better option? Any advice? At a recent trackman fitting I was recommended the Mizuno MP-25 as a head option but I’m staying with Wilson, but I guess the same type head would work. Are these new F5’s a much bigger head?
      I would be delighted if you can offer some advice.

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      Markus Viljanen

      8 years ago

      Go with the one that feels the best and gives you the ball flight you are after.

      Reply

      Chris Komas

      8 years ago

      Go srixon or the new cobra King ltd irons. I have both and love them. The feel and feedback of the new Cobras is right there with mizuno. Srixon is very unrated iron maker. Both sets are forged.

      Reply

      Tyler

      8 years ago

      I have the Mizuno’s and I love them. I play off a 3 so I am not a scratch by any means but I have been playing the Ping S56’s then I bought the S55’s but the MP-25’s are just that much better, I will be bagging them for quite a while. I understand not wanting to leave the Wilson family but I wouldn’t toss that head option to the side too casually.

      Reply

      Nat Twang

      8 years ago

      I believe Krank is the formula 6 world record holder all other s are inferior

      Reply

      Cliff Morgan

      8 years ago

      They just put the space port out didn’t they? So does that mean they will do like everyone else and put something new on the market every 3-6 months now

      Reply

      Loo Wei Li

      8 years ago

      No. King ltd is a one off special edition to commemorate the king model. F6 is their 2016 release of their regular releases. F6, Fly-z, bio cell,amp cell and more -> these are one line. King LTD is another line. Totally separate.

      Reply

      Kyle Brown

      8 years ago

      big things for cobra golf coming. Awesome clubs and great technology

      Reply

      Bob Gomavitz

      8 years ago

      Wait a minute….the new leader? Is that because Tom Olsavsky is now at Cobra after leaving Taylormade?

      Reply

      Kenny B

      8 years ago

      I have a feeling that I may have a Cobra in my bag next year; my first since the SS 350.

      Reply

      Shawn Allan

      8 years ago

      Isn’t kranks new head called the F6 also?

      Reply

      James Harding

      8 years ago

      have liked their stuff for awhile, some of the longest and best equipment on the market

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      hckymeyer

      8 years ago

      So much for ordering a King LTD soon, now I have to wait and hit the F6+ first!!

      Reply

      redneckrooster

      8 years ago

      Sign me up ! I still play the first edition ZL Cobra and love it . I ‘m on board with the Cobra. This article is outstanding and I clearly understand what you have written . Maybe the new King of Hill , time will tell. I want one ASAP!!

      Reply

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