Outside the Box: The Most Innovative Company in Golf?
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Outside the Box: The Most Innovative Company in Golf?

Outside the Box: The Most Innovative Company in Golf?

Who makes the #1 Driver on Tour? Who makes the #1 Ball in Golf? The #1 shoe, shaft, towel…ball retriever? Who the hell cares.

What if I told you there is a golf company that isn’t interested in topping some survey, counting trivial things, or being the #1 whatever, wherever. What if there is a golf company that focused the whole of its efforts on making cool stuff that works, and making the game more fun for everyone?

That company exists, and while perhaps they spent too long cooling in the shade (under Titleist’s umbrella), things have changed drastically in just two and a half short years. While the commitment to making the best performing equipment in golf has never wavered, the company finally has its own time in the sun, and – holy Rickie Fowler’s pants – is it ever showing off its color.

The company I’m talking about is Cobra-PUMA Golf (obviously), and believe me when I tell you, if you haven’t been paying attention, it’s time that you start. Their 2013 lineup is innovative, colorful, and totally unlike any other. It also happens to be really…really good.

CELL-ebrating 40 Years

Not long ago I had the chance to attend what is well on its way to becoming an annual (this was the 2nd) open house at Cobra-PUMA headquarters in Carlsbad CA.

The purpose for this year’s event was to celebrate 40 years of Cobra Golf, prepare top dealers from all over the world to CELL sell the new lineup,  and to give some lucky contest winners the chance to chill at Cobra-PUMA for a couple of days. It also presented a rare opportunity for a few of us media types (that’s right…I’m The Media…at least that’s what it says on my badge) to get at true behind the scenes look at perhaps the most interesting company in the golf business today.

The event included some one on one time with the boss, a tour of Cobra-PUMA headquarters, demo day, product presentations, a round table discussion, golf at La Costa’s South Course, and plenty of good food and drink.

Also, they gave me a backpack filled with some really cool stuff.

An “Idiot” and An Idea

Shortly after my arrival at Cobra-PUMA HQ, and before I got my ass handed to me at foosball (by a girl no less) I had a chance to sit down with Tom Crow, Cobra’s founder, and the guy who invented the original Baffler.

When you’ve been in the industry as long as Tom has, you live what eventually becomes a series of great stories. Some of those stories, unfortunately, aren’t fit to print…even on MyGolfSpy, but the ones that are, particularly those surrounding the origins of the Baffler are absolutely fascinating.

“It was a skidder” – Tom Crow, Cobra Founder and inventor of the Baffler

You might be surprised to learn that the inspiration for the Baffler came largely from the sand iron; a club with enough bounce to allow the club to skid across the ground, rather than dig into the turf. After spending time with the club designers at several different golf companies, Crow was able to refine his design and ultimately bring his vision for what really did amount to a high-bounce fairway wood to life. It wouldn’t be a stretch to describe the original Baffler as a sand wood.

At the time it was a revolutionary idea, but as Crow told me, “I was one of those idiots who thought you could do things differently”.

As different as the Baffler was, Crow had almost no trouble selling his idea to the local golf shops. He’d simply drop a ball onto the pavement in the shop parking lot, and ask the owner to hit towards the Carlsbad hills. Once they did, and saw how easy it was to launch the ball high, they placed their orders.

In the 40 years since Tom Crow created the original, the Baffler’s rails have become quite a bit less pronounced, and Crow was quick to tell me that if it were up to him, he’d raise the rails again to make the modern Baffler look and play more like the original.

Evolutionary design changes aside, 40 years later, Tom Crow’s idea looks anything but idiotic, and the Baffler remains the signature product in the Cobra lineup.

Getting to Know Cobra-PUMA

While the origin of the Baffler is a great story, I know most of you are probably more interested in Cobra’s 2013 lineup – the Amp Cell and AMP Cell Pro irons, the AMP Cell Driver, fairway woods, and hybrids, and perhaps even a new wedge.

I’ll touch on some of that, but for me these OEM visits usually aren’t about specific pieces of equipment, but rather are an opportunity to learn more about a company, its present, its future, and most importantly, its people. And if I happen to score some orange pants while I’m there…that’s just a bonus.

Sitting down with Bob Philion, President of Cobra-PUMA, golf for 20 minutes gave me the opportunity to do just that (learn about Cobra-PUMA…not the pants thing).

Bob Philion joined PUMA in 2005 to head their golf division. At that time PUMA’s golf offerings were limited to apparel, footwear, and accessories. When PUMA acquired Cobra in 2009 it was Philion who was tasked with transitioning Cobra Golf into the PUMA family.

Calmness, Freedom, and Performance

When asked what’s changed since PUMA grabbed the reins at Cobra, Philion told me that the last 2.5 years have gone by extremely fast and that the biggest difference between day one and now is what he calls “operational calmness”.

The fact that things have settled down and that Cobra is fully absorbed in the PUMA culture is reflected in more recent products like the AMP and AMP Orange Driver, Long Tom, Rickie Fowler’s mustache (technically not a Cobra-PUMA product – and yes, I know he shaved it), and without question, the upcoming AMP Cell lineup.

While some might look at these products and assume they’re largely the result of PUMA’s colorful influence, Tom Preece, Cobra’s VP of R&D left little doubt that stepping out from under the Acushnet/Titleist umbrella provided the R&D team with much greater design freedom.

As he explained, “Cobra R&D was always separate from Titleist R&D. We always had our own team, yet Titleist still was somewhat hands-on when it comes to product from a branding perspective, a design perspective, and now that PUMA is our parent we have a lot of freedom to design the type of products we want to design; the look we want them to have. But the most important thing to remember is performance is still going to be first and foremost on our mind…Performance has always driven everything we do in R&D. Despite all the pretty colors you see, we’re the most proud of how our products perform”.

Bob Philion echoed much the same sentiment, telling me that for every Cobra product they “make sure it starts in performance, functional, innovation, and that it looks better than the competition”.

A Splash of Color

Performance aside, color remains where PUMA, and now Cobra have forged their identities in the golf business, and nowhere is that more apparent than the PUMA apparel lineup.

The golf apparel market is exploding. PUMA is arguably on the leading edge of the trend, which in-part explains why the apparel lines account for the lion’s share (sorry) of the Cobra-PUMA empire. PUMA’s golf apparel isn’t just succeeding; it’s growing significantly year-over-year, and the end is nowhere in sight.

Perhaps most surprisingly, despite perceptions to the contrary, PUMA’s appeal is not limited to the Rickie and Lexi crowd. Young at heart fans of all ages are embracing the PUMA culture.

While we’ve come to think of the PUMA, and by extension, Cobra as being targeted at a younger generation of golfers with what is clearly a more youthful message; Bob Philion suggests his brand more accurately targets what he calls “youthful mindsets”. According to Philion, the brand’s appeal is “broader than people may think…we want everyone to enjoy the game more”.

Speaking from experience; it’s impossible not to enjoy the game when you’re wearing orange pants.

Some have speculated that Cobra-PUMA’s flirtation with a younger crowd, which includes not only the apparel lineup, but also the introduction of color (and plenty of it) into the equipment lines, coupled with the lack of what one might consider a traditional looking (black) club, would ultimately cost them the brand loyalists who, in some cases, have quite literally played Cobra’s clubs for decades.

Philion explained that the company actually worried about the opposite. “Our concern was losing through lack of innovation and freshness. There was a bigger concern [we’d] lose some of our core demographic because we weren’t innovating and staying fresh…We actually feel like we have a chance to get back some of those consumers”. According to Cobra’s own research, he added, “north of 60 doesn’t want something boring”.

Neither does just south of 40. I’m just sayin’.

Becoming the Most Desirable

Within the context of our conversations around youthful mindsets, and retaining, and re-engaging longtime Cobra players, I asked Philion to tell me how he views Cobra-PUMA’s place in today’s equipment marketplace.

“We are”, he said, “a reflection of the consolidation in golf…a major player with a strong parent company that’s here for the long haul”.

While, as Philion explained, “the consumer has more influence on our line and business than anything else”, a strong Tour presence remains essential to the success of the Cobra brand. Adding, “we have an advantage that we’re not counting balls, and shoes, and drivers”.

“We’re not trying to be the biggest; we’re trying to be the most desirable”. – Bob Philion

With desirability trumping survey numbers, Cobra doesn’t necessarily need to leverage the tour in the same way as some of its competitors. Rather than trying to generate as much Tour spread as possible, Cobra limits its focus to the select few that fit well with the brand’s identity. Said Philion, “We’re trying to have only those players that resonate with our DNA”.

Oops…Then Again, Maybe Not

One of my favorite things to do on these visits is to ask the golf company guys if they’ve released anything over the last few years they’d consider a failure, or might like a do-over on.

To this day I haven’t had anybody tell me “yeah…we really [expletive deleted] that one up. It was a total piece of crap”, but when pressed, most will admit that market receptions could have been better for certain products.

When I asked Bob Philion that very same question, I had the Long Tom driver in mind. Even with the obvious acknowledgement that Long Tom was never supposed to be the top dog in Cobra’s driver lineup, I have wondered if the retail numbers were perhaps at least slightly disappointing.

His response not only dispels any notion of failure, it also happens to provides us with tremendous insight into Cobra’s approach to product development and where it wants to position itself in the market.

“The answer is no. We’re not trying to be the biggest. We’re not trying to hit home runs with every product. Every product has a reason for being in our line and some of those are to push the envelope, and to really try some out of the box innovation and something that’s new, that may or may not work, but we always talk about learning fast. So, I think…not everything is going to be a hit, but when you’re trying to be the most desirable vs. the biggest, you’re going to send some flares.

We talk about our positioning not being in the fairway. We can’t be out of bounds, and we kind of live in the rough and so that positing tells us we’re going to have some products that are in the deep cut of rough, and again, those products have a reason for being in the line.” – Bob Philion

According to Philion, “Making cool stuff that works” is Cobra-PUMA’s Mantra.

It’s this unique mindset that allows Cobra to make that “cool stuff”, while at the same time helping golfers enjoy the game more. If living just beyond that short grass is what it takes to make it happen, then it would seems Cobra-PUMA is more than happy to do just that.

It’s absolutely a bit of an unorthodox approach for a golf company – especially when nearly everyone else in the industry seems driven to be #1 at something, but it’s clearly an approach that resonates with consumers, as more and more golfers are drawn to what Cobra-PUMA is CELLing. That one was shameful.

But…But…But What About the Equipment

I know you guys want to know more about the equipment.

Sitting in a Cobra product presentation and talking Cobra gear with Tom Preece, and Cobra’s Director of Product Marketing, Jose Miraflor has provided me with a pretty solid understanding of Cobra’s latest technology, especially the CELL technology found in the new drivers and irons, but I’m going to back pocket those until it comes time to fully review both (which will happen).

In the meantime, I’ll leave you with this list of things that might happen in 2013.

The Cobra-PUMA Rumormill

  • Look for Cobra-PUMA to add someone to their Tour Staff. It’s not going to be Rory McIlory, but it will be a name you’re likely to recognize.
  • A new wedge? That’s probably happening.
  • A new putter? That’s not happening …at least not yet. Bob Philion told me that putters “represent an opportunity for the future”, while adding, “We’re not going to make a putter to have a putter in the line. It’s got to have a reason for being”.
  • There will be even more Limited Edition Products, the timing of which may or may not coincide with USGA and PGA Tournaments of significance.
  • PUMA spikeless street-style golf shoes are coming (to my house, I’m told) … soon
  • Orange isn’t going away, but it’s not going to be at the forefront of the Cobra-PUMA lineup this season. You should still buy the pants.
  • Cobra will release a mobile app to help you determine proper gaps, and put the right Cobra clubs in your bag.
  • PUMA is going to sign me to an endorsement deal (this is totally fabricated)
  • The Rickie blades are coming (you probably already knew that). You will finally be able to order exactly what Rickie plays through custom. More sensible players can pick up a slightly more forgiving progressive, or flow set, at retail.

Finally… What’s Your Fly?

Expect to hear that question quite a bit in the coming months as Cobra starts spreading the word about the new AMP Cell driver.

My Fly…it’s likely going to be the Pro model set at 8.5° in blue (which wasn’t the original plan, and technically doesn’t exist…yet),  and in the spirit of a true you had to be there moment, I’ll call her Jamie Lynn. This is going to happen, right Jose? Right?

I know Cobra-PUMA doesn’t make as much noise as some of the other guys, but listen to me when I tell you that we all need to be a bit more appreciative of this company that isn’t afraid to take some chances, try something different, and have a little fun – and do it all while wearing orange pants. I promise you, this is where real innovation comes from (risk taking and out-of-the-box thinking, not the pants).

During a Cobra product presentation, one of the first things Tom Preece said “It’s a really cool time to be a Cobra guy”. While that’s no doubt true, it’s a pretty cool time to be a Cobra fan too.

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Tony is the Editor of MyGolfSpy where his job is to bring fresh and innovative content to the site. In addition to his editorial responsibilities, he was instrumental in developing MyGolfSpy's data-driven testing methodologies and continues to sift through our data to find the insights that can help improve your game. Tony believes that golfers deserve to know what's real and what's not, and that means MyGolfSpy's equipment coverage must extend beyond the so-called facts as dictated by the same companies that created them. Most of all Tony believes in performance over hype and #PowerToThePlayer.

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      David W

      11 years ago

      Color is nothing but a preference, it has absolutely nothing to do with ruining golf. That’s like saying the option of purchasing a yellow car is ruining the automobile industry. I personally would never buy a yellow car but it doesn’t change anything in my life that has to do with automobiles. If you like black drivers you choose a black driver. If you like colored drivers choose a colored one.

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      jbob

      11 years ago

      these look so stupid it makes me sick a driver needs ablack crown with a grey face with the brand name on it, a shaft and a grip simple as! when cobra went orange i got sick when tmag went with white on their crowns on their woods i got sick. these stupid gimmicks are ruining golf its more about the clubs than it is the game. I SPEAK THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      Rob

      11 years ago

      Really?? A driver NEEDS a black crown and a grey face? You seem to have forgotten the evolution of the driver… brown (they were, after all, made out of WOOD!), then grey, then some funky burnt orange TM Burner Bubble thing, THEN black came to be in vogue! There was even an (OMG) ORANGE Burner in the late 90’s. GASP!!!! In your little mind, black must be the first driver you hacked with, so therefor they all MUST be black.

      Open you eyes…. there is more to golf than just you. You are just speaking out of your a$$. I’M SPEAKING THE TRUTH!

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      Bill

      11 years ago

      Just wanted to say good article. I used to be an all Cobra player for more then 20 years and then made the switch to TM. But from the looks of the new Cobra-Puma equipment I may be re-doing my bag with the Cobra cell stuff. Cobra has always had good products but now it seems like they a aren’t afraid to be different. really want the red cell driver and irons. And i really like the ability to change loft to fit course conditions. Good job Cobra-Puma.

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      Curtis

      11 years ago

      I demo’d a Long Tom Driver. Loved it so much, I bought one (Caveat – I’m 6’4″ tall, so it was pretty much custom designed to fit me and feel right). I just got back into golf after a near 20-year hiatus (raising kids). I had my heart set on Calloway. But having hit more consistently straight shots with Cobra, guess what…

      I bought the Orange Pants! (Well, okay, Orange and white checkered shorts, but close enough). Basically I am all in with Cobra except for my oddyssey putter which I won at a tournament first day back, lol (closest to pin in 2).

      Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for the great background and insight into the company who’s innovative products work as good as they look (2nd Caveat – Orange became my favorite color when as a 6-year old I watched Larry Csonka, Mercury Morris, Jake Scott, et al. go undefeated in 1972 and win the Super Bowl).

      Good article, and I for one am glad you have filler material between all the excellent reviews. ;)

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      Jordan B

      11 years ago

      Nice article. It is nice to see a company that is not afraid of being different.

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      M

      11 years ago

      So back on subject……I think it’s been said before here……Cobra is no longer your fathers (or grand fathers) golf equipment. I remember a time maybe preTitleist that Cobra was considered just that…..an old guys club(s). Never even considered it for my bag. Then came along the Cobra S Pro irons. My gosh those were beautiful. By that time I was old enough to believe that I couldn’t hit a “blade” design. Picked on up at a demo and WoW!!! Not that I would bag them cause I still feel the need for forgivness fix…..but what a great club. Can’t wait to see the 2013 lineup. Still don’t have Cobra’s of any sort in my bag but I will make a stop at the Cobra tent at the PGA show. It was the busiest tent at the show last year I might add.

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      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      M – Nobody in the golf industry throws a party like Cobra-PUMA. They’re not putting on a show, their products reflect the culture of the company, and that culture is a reflection of the people who work there.

      Fun people making fun products that just happen to perform really well.

      And yeah…you can bet I’m going to spend plenty of time at the Cobra Tent at Demo Day, and again at the indoor both. Did I mention Cobra knows how to party?

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      Fila golf

      11 years ago

      From my experience, there is no overall winner, just for the moment, its always like that, that’s why the new reviews are coming all the time, new products and styles

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      dom

      11 years ago

      and the new Baffler Iorns?

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      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      We won’t be putting the Baffler Hybrid-Irons through a full review, but I, along with a few of my testers spend some time with them. Club Report Here: http://mygolfspy.com/cobra-baffler-hybrid-iron-club-report-review/

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      Alex

      11 years ago

      This is a great write-up and it was nice meeting you at the Open House. I encourage everyone to enter Cobra’s sweepstakes next year to win a trip to their Open House. It was amazing. Golf heaven!!!

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      Wally

      11 years ago

      I for one enjoy the various articles and especially about anything “new”. Golf like clothes, cars, or anything else for that matter produce products that we may or may not like,,,if we like them we buy it,, if not, we don’t. How else can you start a trend?

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      frank

      11 years ago

      These are the type of stories taht make all of us sitting behind a desk, or busting our hump elsewhere drool over. to come on here and criticize MGS for not continuing the reviews …I say…GOOD GOD MAN!!!!

      Have you not seen the top 10 gadet review sent out last week. do you not see the weekly reviews that come out on one product or another we have all been pondering to purchase or have pruchased wondering if it is the “BEST” there is on the market.

      To gain access to all this gear and equipment there has to be a little A$$ kissing involved. And I say that with the uttmost respect MGS. To put yourself out on the line as “THE” unbiased review site “FOR THE PEOPLE” when you walk into these sort of environments I would assume that your graces aren’t always greeted with a “HEY LOOK MGS IS HERE HOW HAVE YOU BEEN”. Building relationships knowing that you will be fully honest in the end is not the easiest thing to do and somehow MGS is doing just that. Think about how tough it is to lend a friend money and then go ask for it. Now think of it when MGS says hey TMAG give (can we please have to disect) 10 of those new $300 drivers to test and oh btw if they suck we will call you on it. HUGE HUEVOS MY FRIENDS AND FOR THAT I THANK YOU!!!!

      bascially MGS is saying you paid to promote and advesrtise as the best now put your money where your mouth it. they caught some greif from TMAG in the past but TMAGs people stepped up and said well let’s do this…and based on the lime green hair cut they won (If they lost I beleive there woudl’ve been just as big OR BIGGER of an article minus the haircut). Albiet without scrutinizing remarks from the peanut gallery (loft this, customize that). THE NUMBERS DON’T LIE PERIOD.

      I am not by any standards a political guy but it is the season so I do approve this site as well…..

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      hongman

      11 years ago

      I will 2nd frank’s sentiments..!

      While the MGS reviews are great, I can only imagine the time it takes to pull each together into a coherent article that we can all enjoy.

      Articles that illuminate a how a company’s particular vision is driving its product lineup & can improve our enjoyment of the game are always welcome in my book.

      Longtime & new readers alike can sense from reading the review articles that MGS pulls no punches, and their integrity in this regard should be beyond reproach by now.

      Now… what I wanna know is… what kindah stuff was in that goody bag..?? :)

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      Matt W

      11 years ago

      I give up. I was just trying to play the funny foil…..channeling the John Cleese character Ian McCallister from the Titleist commercials to rail against advancements to the game.

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      Fozcycle

      11 years ago

      Cobra-PUMA has brought back the fashion and stylishness of the early ’80’s. Back then we wore bright green, pastel pink or Madrais Plaid pants with izod shirts. On cool days we even sported a color matched cardigan sweater…..Today’s golf world needs some color and it looks like Cobra-PUMA is bringing it!

      I for one am slobbering over the Blue Cobras….they will go nicely in my Blue/White Univ. of Kentucky cart bag.

      Nice in-depth look at what is becoming a very successful golf merchandising company…..soup to nuts.

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      Matt W

      11 years ago

      I’m not being critical…..I’m being facetious, tongue in cheek, a wise guy if you will. Accessorize and color coordinate to your hearts content! When some old coot wearing Sansabelt slacks and playing a Rawlings persimmon 5W and a mismatched set of 1972 Macgregor’s, and a Bullseye putter, eats your lunch on the golf course…..don’t come crying to me. Personally, I play just as bad whether my Garamimals match and are feng shui with my golf clubs or not. ;)

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      Josh

      11 years ago

      Why is everyone being soo critical? This is a great insight into the product philosophy and marketing plan of Cobra since merging with Puma. Complaining about objectivity is just a load of BS, grow up people and if you don’t like what you’re reading then STOP READING.
      P.S. Thanks T it was great

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      RAT

      11 years ago

      Refreshing, it’s not about WHITE.This is COBRA , it’s time for the move to the future and new looks and tech changes.I use the ZL driver and would not change unless there was something better .My first full set of irons were Cobra and my son took them and loved them.He has the Cobra AMP driver and needs the app for his phone to get the right tuned shaft.I like the looks they have and I’m 63- older people want to be cool and good too.WAY TO GO COBRA!!

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      Si

      11 years ago

      Hi Tony…

      I was meant to be a part of all this, having won a comp with American Golf over here in the UK. You probably met the 4 British guys while doing your thing… I was double booked that week with a trip to Disneyland Paris with the kids and although I couldn’t upset the kids, I’m still mega gutted about not going to see all this… To Cobra/Puma’s credit, I received a full set of bats and Puma clothing etc, but I still wish I had been able to come… I know Cobra/Puma have the fight and knowhow to take it to TMaG, I just hope they take it seriously enough to have a really good go at it!!!

      Si

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      Ed L

      11 years ago

      I love you guys. I LOVE Cobra (Driver and fairway woods all Cobra AMP)

      But I seriously rely on you guys when I make purchasing decisions. When I bought my Wilson Staff Irons, it was literally 100% because of the review on this site.

      Articles like this may be informative and fun to read, but it will always make people question, even unfairly, the integrity of the reviews. This is my favorite golf site on the web – please don’t do anything to harm that.

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      Craig

      11 years ago

      Almost every review in last year mentions someone being injured…. During testing. Same dude or is it several…. Is testing at mgs dangerous?

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      Matt W

      11 years ago

      Far be it from me to rain on anyone’s pastel and neon colored golf parade, but Old Tom Morris most be spinning in his grave…..just saying. ;)

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      David W

      11 years ago

      Old Tom Morris would be spinning in his grave if could see you playing in shorts, short sleeves and no tie. Times change.

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      sparnar

      11 years ago

      Interesting read.

      Loving the blue driver!

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      Yohanan

      11 years ago

      I bought a set of deer hunter osu cowboy orange amp irons two weeks ago. I like the way they perform. Dont really care how they look. But there is a limit. I think that is the point. Finding that point. Creating buzz and appeal is what marketing people do. Engineers create loosing or winning or ground breaking designs.

      the inside look of a company moving the bar is great – thanks.

      Playing better golf and having fun while not looking too ridiculous doing it is the goal at age 49.

      Cheers

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      Paul Carter

      11 years ago

      Well, I for one enjoyed this article. I thought it was very well written, and very interesting. For those of you who disagree, there’s always the back button!

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      Golfspy Matt

      11 years ago

      I am really shocked at the number of negative and rude comments on this and many other posts lately. Even if no one else reads it, I feel obliged to say something:

      If there’s something you’d like to see on the site, we’d love to hear it. I think we’ve proven more than willing to listen to reader feedback. If you want to see something on the site, how about an email that simply says, “Hey, I’d like to see ____ reviewed. Is that something that will happen and, if so, when?” You don’t need to say please or thank you, but the absence of “you suck” and “gimme gimme gimme” would be refreshing.

      To those that do participate positively, I thank you.

      Best,

      Matt

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      Super Tuna

      11 years ago

      Neat article T. I forget, do you or do you not like Orange pants? : p

      I found the comment on the Long Tom fairly interesting. Puma seems to be the king of releasing Limited Edition items and getting people to snap them up. Seems like the Long Tom, rather then setup as being a club with…Ahem… Long term success it was setup with the Limited Edition thing in mind, to see how golfers reacted. I wonder if the Orange Amp that they released was more for testing the waters or whether they new it would sell, at least somewhat well, based upon the Long Tom results.

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      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      While nobody told me specifically, I think the two clubs you mentioned might very well be among the flares that Mr. Philion mentioned to me.

      I’m not saying everyone, or even many for that matter will do it, but I suspect there will be some who will see the AMP Cell Driver and want to collect all four. Me…much to my own surprise, I’m very much sold on the blue…especially if the Pro model happens in that color.

      Also…orange pants are awesome. This is an indisputable fact.

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      Jimgolf

      11 years ago

      Thanks my friend and if I only had 5 minutes of baterry power left for the Internet I would spend it on mygolfspy.com! All the best!

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      JK

      11 years ago

      I respectively disagree. Most innovatively marketed product – maybe. But in my opinion, Adams Golf still holds the title of most innovative product/technology. Behold:
      From the Tight Lies Fairway Wood, to hybrid-incorporate iron sets, to Velocity Slot technology and the #1 hybrid on Tour. Try as I might I can’t come up with a Cobra ‘from..to…, etc’ that comes close to this one. Good info on Cobra though….

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      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      Now this is the type of discussion we were hoping to illicit.

      I love the Tight Lies example…that’s evolution, and I would argue evolution that began with the original tight lies club…the Cobra Baffler.

      Doesn’t get much tighter than pavement does it?

      Of course everything starts with an idea on a napkin. The idea itself doesn’t matter. It’s what you do with it that is everything.

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      David W

      11 years ago

      You beat me to the reply. I love Adams hybrids and fairway woods and think they are one of the most innovative companies in business. However, the Baffler was the first, Tight Lies was an innovation on the Baffler.

      Jimgolf

      11 years ago

      Very sorry to hear about a tester being sick and I wish him a speedy recovery! Now in the meantime being the gear junkie I am, I volunteer my services to fill in! Maybe we start with miura sit driver, than move onto tour edge cb5 3 wood and now that you put cobra on the list lets give that $2500 cobra/Ferrari driver a spin around the track(man)!
      Have no fear mr. Golf spy I’m a loyal follower and love the site just seems over the last year you took a turn from a lot of great club reviews to some other stuff. I have bought many of the items you reviewed some great some not so great but still loyal. So take a chill pill and go do what we all want, some new clubs to compare using your fancy new comparison tools. Ok now back to my dark house with no power in nj, chipping in my living room by candlelight.

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      wdgolf

      11 years ago

      “So take a chill pill and go do what we all want, some new clubs to compare using your fancy new comparison tools.”

      Wow, seriously? I enjoy these sorts of stories of places I’ll never get to visit very much. I also enjoy the contests, forums, golf course reviews, rumors of new stuff, talk about tour staff, labs articles, etc, etc, etc…

      The MGS team has always taken criticism very well, but this is just plain ignorant. If you don’t enjoy something purely because of the content, there’s no way it’ll be written for you to enjoy it. Just wait for the next article (several come out each week) or do something else with your time. You could even try writing up content yourself, organizing several people, fact checking what you write, and then see how long all of this takes.

      (I am not part of the MGS staff, just a frequent visitor)

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      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      No worries. We do need to get the engines fired up on the review machine. Having a guy go down half way through the biggest review we’ve ever worked on really hurt.

      Amazing world we live in though…no power and guys are still on the internet.

      Stay say Jimgolf. I’ve got wind and rain on the way, but shouldn’t be anything compared to what you’re getting.

      David W

      11 years ago

      Stay classy GolfSpy T, with the edge of course (not being facetious!) I don’t understand how someone can think that you can get all these people and equipment together every day to do reviews for a free web site. And also, how many times do you have to tell them that some manufacturers won’t donate equipment for you to test (probably because they are scared of the results…LOL).

      Jimgolf

      11 years ago

      Let me say I’m a loyal mygolfspy.com, I go on every day. But what I go on for is what the site USED to be about, club reviews. Now each day I click hoping for a new review and its mostly just crappola. Look how many drivers you HAVEN’T reviewed yet, irons, hybrids and putters too. Whats the deal? Have you sold out to get goody bags from OEM’s? Go back to what you are the best damn review site!

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      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      Where do you think the clubs we review come from? It’s all OEM goody bags in one form or another. These OEM visits provide insight into how companies think and operate. That my friend is not “crappola” as you so elegantly called it. They do happen to be the part of my job I enjoy those most, so I’ll continue to write them as the situation allows for.

      If you knew your MyGolfSpy history you’d realize that a review site is the last thing we are. Yes…reviews have grown to be a larger part of the site, and they will continue to be, but that’s definitely not where our roots are planted..

      Quite frankly, you have no idea what it takes to run the site, the expense we incur to review clubs the way we do, or any of the hundreds of other things we have to account for on a daily basis to keep the site moving forward.

      Yeah…club reviews are light these days. We’ve focused the bulk of our energy on a huge fairway wood test, and unfortunately one of the testers suffered a serious (critical actually) medical issue mid-way through the testing. We’re largely on hold until he’s ready to go. He’s on the mend, and we’ve got a few things I hope to wrap up shortly. In the meantime, I’ll be sure to pass along your personal disdain for the lack of reviews.

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      wdgolf

      11 years ago

      So right now their big names are Rickie, Ian, and Lexi

      http://www.cobragolf.com/cobra-tour/

      If it’s a sorta top guy, I’m going with Kevin Na

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      Leftienige

      11 years ago

      If it’s true that they’re developing the rumoured club-heads which explode if waggled more than 4 times, Kevin Na’s just the man for the job.

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      Matt W

      11 years ago

      T – Jesus wept!!! I’m just glad that Mr. Hogan isn’t alive to see all these baby blue and lime green golf clubs….it’d kill him for sure!!!! ;)

      Reply

      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      Ahh perhaps…but don’t they remind you that the game is supposed to be fun?

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      mygolfspy

      11 years ago

      Mr. Hogan had plenty of baby blue in his closet. It was actually a pretty popular color more then once in the fashion world. What’s old is always new again…just about 30-35 years later.

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      BK in Wisconsin

      11 years ago

      Sweet. I should be cool again in 10 more years then ;-)

      lambo

      11 years ago

      It’s going to be really cool to see all that they have coming down the pipe!

      We need purple as a choice!

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      k

      11 years ago

      What a load of crap…is this a joke??

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      Justin

      11 years ago

      So we should be looking for all of C/P’s roster to be top contenders next year, right? The equipment is so innovative and better, in the hands of the elite these should be the thing that puts them over the top. right? :)

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      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      Yes…that was exactly the point of the article… The story had absolutely nothing to do with Cobra-PUMA’s unique approach to the marketplace.

      Did you even read it before coming down here to spout off?

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      BK in Wisconsin

      11 years ago

      LMAO :-)

      David W

      11 years ago

      Love this site and all the writers…LOL

      stevenhw8

      11 years ago

      Loved it!
      Can’t wait for their 2013 new gear!

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      Zeet

      11 years ago

      Articles like this really make me question this websites integrity. What I, and I imagine many golfers long for is an objective evaluation of golf equipment by a cross-section of real (and hopefully articulate) golfers.
      This is all corporate babble. WTF does “It’s a really cool time to be a Cobra guy” mean to me?
      I have a bag full of Cobra clubs with which I frequently hack my way down the links in my area, but I didn’t buy them because I was a “Cobra guy”.
      This world is full of marketing BS. Please be something different – bring us information we can use.

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      GolfSpy T

      11 years ago

      Objective evaluations of golf equipment are what we call reviews. As I so often repeat anytime I do one of these OEM vists – THIS IS NOT A REVIEW! (the clue should have been the absence of the word “review” in the title…or the article for that matter). Hell…I barely talked about the equipment at all. This is a look at Cobra-PUMA from more of a philosophical perspective. Jeez.

      Once again just in case it wasn’t clear. Not everything I write is a review.

      As far as the quote you cherry-picked out of the article…what “It’s a really cool time to be a Cobra guy” means is that the R&D team finally has the freedom to design the type of products they want to design.

      If you’re a Cobra fan, that translates to some really cool, and unique products in the marketplace.

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      David W

      11 years ago

      Keep up the great work. This was a very interesting article. Already forwarded the link to several of my buddies who are enjoying it also. This kind of thing is what makes your site stand out, and why it’s the only one I’ve ever donated to. I love the fact that I can get all the club and equipment info I want along with some insight into what the companies are thinking when they produce their lines.

      Chris M

      11 years ago

      Ok, Breath…………. Good article for what it is as a “heads up” to watch out for the new Cobra products and keep an eye out for what i’m sure will be extensive “Reviews” in the future.
      Keep “expletive” trucking…….. Thx.

      Tyk

      11 years ago

      I think you’ve pretty much missed the point of the article. This wasn’t an equipment review, it was a report on T’s visit to Cobra headquarters. The corporate cheerleading wasn’t T’s words, it was him reporting what Cobra said.

      If you want objective evaluations of golf equipment, I’d suggest you look for the articles titled “EQUIPMENT REVIEW”, there’s plenty of them.

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      frank

      11 years ago

      Everybodies unbiased “opinion” aside. GROW UP! if you knwo what this sites about and the detail these guys put into their work and the insight and knoweldge from the reader base then these comments wouldn’t even jump to mind.

      GREAT JOB MGS T!!!!

      I wouldn’t sniff cobra products but then again I woudln’t sniff taylormade as of last year too. all this information has me looking hard and deep about how I want “MY” bag to look and what fits my personality and eye. Might have to look at some of this crazy hubub

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      hckymeyer

      11 years ago

      Great write up! It’s article’s like these that really make me jealous. Can’t wait to see what Cobra/PUMA does over the next few years.

      Reply

      Tyk

      11 years ago

      Really good job T! It’s a lot of fun being taken “behind the scenes” and given a more overarching perspective on what companies are doing and thinking! Thanks!

      Reply

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