REVIEW! – Miura CB-501 Irons
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REVIEW! – Miura CB-501 Irons

REVIEW! – Miura CB-501 Irons

 

Miura Golf – A Different Type Of Golf Company

Not unlike most golfers, I’ve heard the legend of Miura irons and wedges for a while now.  I’ve seen pictures in magazines.  I’d heard about Mr. Miura and his “Hands of God”.  I’d read more than a couple reviews from golfers actually fortunate enough to try a set for themselves.  I visited their website countless times, and found myself drooling over some of the prettiest forged heads I’ve ever seen.  Despite all of that,  like most of you, I’d never actually seen a set in the wild.  Hell, I talked to countless golfers, a handful or pros, and random guys at the office, and even those who were familiar with Miura name had never actually tried a set for themselves.

I was basically resolved to admiring Miura beauty from a far, well, that is until I got an email from the boss asking if I’d be willing to work with someone from Miura to custom fit me for a set of their new CB-501 irons.  Needless to say, it didn’t take long for me to respond with something the lines of “yeah, I suppose”.  Actually, I think the response was more of an OH HELL YEAH!

As you may have already figured out, this isn’t one of our “ULTIMATE Reviews”.  While we love providing you with objective, data-driven reviews, the entire premise of that system is based on testing “off-the-rack” equipment.  The thing is, apart from a few sets sold at Golftown in Canada, there’s really no such thing as off the rack Miuras.  The overwhelming majority of Miura orders are for 100% custom fit clubs. The clubs I’m reviewing today were 100% custom fit for me, and realistically aren’t a good fit for a substantial portion of the golfing population, let alone our normal pool of MyGolfSpy testers.

The Fitting Process

A normal Miura fitting will often take several hours.   The Miura custom club fitter will have you try a variety of head and shaft combinations until you find the combination that suits both your eye and your swing.  Unfortunately, I don’t have a custom Miura fitter in close proximity, so we had to come up with other ways to find that ideal combination for me.  I had been custom fit for length for lie and loft before, but to be doubly sure I had the right specs, I worked with Kent Tarkleson from Tark’s Indoor Golf to verify that the information from my previous fitting was still good.  Sadly, it was.  I’m still 100% standard for both.  How boring is that?

Next, I paid a visit to the outstanding pro shop at Northway 8 golf.  Fortunately, when I explained exactly what it was doing (getting fit for Miuras, and not buying Mizunos), the knowledgeable staff was willing to let me take a few swings with the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer so I could zero in on the best shaft for my swing (quick tempo, less than smooth transition).  With a little luck we’ll have a full review of the Mizuno system in the not-so-distant future, but for now, the important thing to know is that the Shaft Optimizer spat out a top recommendation of KBS Tour shafts, X-stiff, soft stepped.  For those of you curious about such things, the shaft optimizer also recommended both Project X 6.0 and Dynamic Gold X-100 soft stepped as the 2nd and 3rd options respectively.  Being almost as curious about KBS shafts as I was Miura irons, I went with the 1st recommendation.  Who am I to argue with a computer?

Finally, I spent about a half hour on the phone with Bill Holowaty, Vice President of Operations for Miura Golf North America.  While the plan all along was to review the new CB-501 irons, Bill made it clear that he’d be happy to build me a set of whatever Miura iron I’d like, but first he wanted to make sure that whatever setup I chose was a good fit for me.

Generally there are two schools of thought when it comes to choosing the proper iron.  There are guys like Eidolon’s Terry Kohler (who not only believe that anyone can play musclebacks and blades; he has actually been known to recommend it).  And then, well, there’s almost everybody else; those guys who think musclebacks and blades should be the exclusive domain of guys with low single digit handicaps.  Me, I’m with Terry (mostly because I’m not a low handicap player, but I sure do love me a blade).  What I couldn’t have guessed is what side of the debate Mr. Holowaty would come down on.

Conventional wisdom being what it is, I was mentally preparing to talk my way into the CB-501’s (despite my occasional battle with a snowman), but thankfully; despite my actual ability, it never came to that.  Bill never asked me about my handicap.  He didn’t ask what my driver swing speed is, or how far I hit my 7-iron.  Instead, his question was painfully simple, “What suites your eye?”.  Seriously.  With the other specs out of the way, that was  his only question.  Revolutionary stuff, right?

I explained to Bill how I’d moved from a set of Callaway X-20s Tours to Mizuno MP-52s because I discovered I could hit them every bit as well, they offered better feel, and quite frankly, I just prefer the looks of a smaller head to a bulbous cavity back.  That was plenty good enough for him to feel comfortable putting me in the CB-501 (I’d be lying if I said I didn’t contemplate asking him to put me in a True Blade, but I figured it was best not to push it).  It seems the Miura philosophy is simple;  whether it’s a cavity back, a muscle back, or a blade, a properly fit Miura will benefit golfers of all skill levels.  What matters is that the club suite your eye.  I couldn’t agree more. (Look for Miura Club Fitters Near You)

About the Miura CB-501

Here are the full specs of what I received:

  • Miura CB-501 irons (3-pw)
  • KBS Tour X-Stiff shafts (soft stepped)
  • Lamkin Crossline Grips (still my favorite)

I won’t rehash everything there is to say about the CB-501 iron.  It’s been covered in numerous forums and blog posts.  What I will share is this one snippet from the original press release which best sums up the design of the CB-501.

Mr. Miura’s goal was to create an iron that featured the ideal ball flight, enough offset to promote playability, the perfect head size and a sole grind that would accommodate a broad range of players.

He started with a full cavity back that possessed a bit more offset than the company’s CB-202, which has almost no offset. Mr. Miura worked on the sole grind until he had something that would not only appeal to a Tour player, but also was forgiving enough for a mid-handicap golfer. At that stage, the ball flight was still not what Mr. Miura envisioned, so he borrowed a design feature from the company’s past—the sweet-spot muscle-back, which was used in a very different Miura iron, the CB-1003, back in 1996.

In all, Mr. Miura spent two years integrating these design variables in different ways until he found the blend that worked best for the widest range of golfers. The result is the CB-501—a cavity-back iron featuring a small muscle-back located behind the sweet spot that delivers the trajectory of a blade iron when the ball is struck on the center of the face. This style of iron also offers cavity-back forgiveness and ball flight, as the contact point moves away from the center of the face.

SpecCheck

For loft and lie, the Miura CB-501s we received were spot on.  To say they were within our tolerances would be an understatement.  Everything was 100% as it should be.  Perfect.  Just perfect.

For Swingweight, MyGolfSpy’s internal tolerances are 1/2 of 1 swingweight.  Once again, each iron in our set of Miura CB-501s tested within tolerances.

Normally we’d include a frequency chart here, but because of how Miura irons are normally purchased and assembled we’ve decided it’s not applicable to our set.  Unlike larger OEMs where clubs are assembled at the factory, the vast majority of Miura irons are assembled by the Miura custom fitter.  In short, if you work with a knowledgeable and skilled fitter, you can expect that your Miuras, regardless of which shafts you choose, will plot out damn near perfect on a frequency chart .

Looks

I’m basically a blade guy, at the very least a muscleback guy.  Cavity backs haven’t’ suited my eyes in years, and while I suppose you can make the case that the CB-501s are cavity backs, they’re definitely not what I normally think of when I think cavity back.  To my eyes, the CB-501s are pure muscleback with a smidgen of blade tossed in for good measure.

The topline is relatively thin (thinner than my MP-52s), the sole is narrower, and the head is smaller.  In every respect but one, the CB-501 looks like a so-called players iron.  The only aspect of the CB-501 design that doesn’t scream “You’re not good enough to hit me” is the comparatively higher amount of offset.  It’s not tremendous, but it’s more than one might expect from a club that looks and plays like the 501.

Esthetically, the design is exactly what you’d expect from Miura.  Whether you call it traditional, understated, or simply classic, you won’t find anything flashy – no splashes of color, no racing inspired graphics.  Instead, the Miuras quietly whisper refinement and sophistication – and that’s beautiful.

My Looks Grade: A

Feel

Ahh feel.  The most subjective of subjective qualities.  Fortunately I’ve got an assortment of irons to test for comparative feel.  I hit a number of irons head to head with the Miura CB-501’s .  They included samplings from Maltby, KZG, Titleist, Callaway, Ping, and of course my Mizuno MP-52s.  After pairing it down, it probably won’t come as any surprise that the MP-52s and the CB-501s were the last irons standing.  When struck on the sweet spot both feel equally as good.  Miss by a little bit, and I give the edge to my MP-52s.  In the interest of full disclosure, this wasn’t a true apples to apples comparison.  My Mizuno’s are outfitted with Project X 5.5 shafts.  The stiffer KBS Tour (probably closer to a project X 6.0) could account for the slightly less buttery feel.  Of course, myself and just about anyone else who has ever played a forged Mizuno will tell you the feel of Mizzy irons is among the very best.  While I’d certainly listen to arguments to the contrary, I give a slight edge to Miura.

My Feel Grade: A

Distance

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.  Distance (to me anyway) is largely inconsequential when evaluating irons.  I figure there’s probably a pretty good reason why we carry 6 to 8 different ones.  Chances are if you do find a set of irons that actually does allow you to hit the ball 15 yards farther, you’re going to open up some awkward distance gaps on one end of your set or the other.   With that in mind, I refuse to place a grade on iron distance.

Anecdotally, I do hit the Miura CB-501s about a half club longer (verified on the launch monitor), but my suspicion is that any gains have more to do with the KBS shafts than the Miura heads .  Score one for the benefits of custom fitting and move on.  Of course I’m also carrying a 4-iron (and occasionally a 3 iron) more often than I have previously.

Accuracy

The CB-501s are the most accurate iron I’ve ever gamed.  On the simulators my dispersion pattern is tighter than it is with my MP-52s.  Once again, the shaft has to be factored into the equation, but I also can’t ignore the fact that the 3 best rounds of golf I’ve played this year have come with the CB-501s in the bag (although I also won’t discount the impact that not hitting houses with my driver has on my score either).  In addition to the shaft, I suspect that the increased offset is also a factor.

Trajectory

I have always been a high ball hitter.  Sure, it has its benefits.  A high ball lands soft, really soft.  But a high ball also gets caught up in the wind, and in some cases damn near blows back in your face.  For the first time in my life, I’m hitting irons with a lower, more boring trajectory.  Again, my suspicion is that this is phenomenon is at best equal parts the Miura CB-501 heads and a properly-fitted shaft, but regardless I’m mostly enjoying the benefits of the lower ball flight.  It’s absolutely awesome to be able to finally chase a ball up on a green with something other than a fairway wood.  Of course, on those occasions where the ball has rolled off the back, I’ve been less enthused, but overall, I’m happy with the results.

Forgiveness

As subjective as feel is, nothing can touch “forgiveness” as far as ambiguity is concerned.  Quite frankly I’m not always sure what the OEMs are talking about when they discuss the forgiveness of their clubs.  I’m not much for MOI numbers myself, instead, I simply define forgiveness as how much the club lets me get away with (how badly can I hit the ball and still achieve a good result).

As a consumer, demo day adventurer, and golf club reviewer I have tested hundreds of clubs over the last several years.  In that time I have seen iron forgiveness improve dramatically, but most often at the expense of feel and feedback.  Occasionally a club really impresses me, but never more than I have been by the Miura CB-501s.  As a guy who doesn’t always hit the sweet spot, I provide myself ample, albeit accidental, opportunities to test forgiveness.  Nothing (cavity backs included) I’ve ever hit can touch the Miura CB-501s ability to maintain distance on less than perfectly struck balls.  More impressive still, they do it without compromising feel or feedback.  They are, in a word, astonishing.

Here’s what I’m talking about.  The 15th on my home course is a long, narrow par 5.  Known as “Long John”  red stakes run down the right side, and white stakes flank the left.  In most cases I’m able to keep the ball in play off the tee, but I habitually hit my 2nd into the right-side hazard (it’s a mental thing).  That’s exactly how I played the hole during the 2nd round of a recent tournament where I had the CB-501s in my bag.  Like a good boy, I measured my two club lengths took my drop, and then took a measurement with my rangefinder.  I had 193 to the pin, which for me is a dangerous tweener distance between my 4 and 5 irons.  On #15, short is better than long, so I grabbed the 5-iron, took an ok swing, but caught more of the turf than I would have liked, and hit the ball a wee bit heavy and a bit towards the toe.  It wasn’t until my partner interrupted my cursing fit to ask me what was wrong with my shot that I noticed that the result wasn’t going to be half bad.  As I watched my ball land just a few yards short of the green and then roll to within four feet, I responded, “umm, nothing, I guess”.  Yeah…I missed the putt, but there’s not a doubt in my mind that if I hit that same shot with any other iron I’ve ever carried, I’m 10-15 yards short of the green.  Again…astonishing.

My Performance Grade:  A+ (but only because nothing comes before A)

What Others Had To Say

Since the CB-501s were custom built for me, and not the standard off-the-rack models we normally test, collecting data from a bunch of ill-fit golfers didn’t seem like the prudent way to handle the Miura CB-501s .  Instead, I put the Miura’s in the hands of golfers who were in to test other clubs, and asked them for some really brief feedback.  In what has become a recurring theme during our tests, price was an issue with a couple of golfers who think $1500 is too much to spend on a set of irons.  I actually had one guy hand the club back to me without taking a swing.  I got the impression that he was afraid I was setting him up for some sort of “you break it, you bought it scenario”.

To my surprise, however; I did have one tester comment that based on feel (and to a lesser degree distance), the Miura CB-501s are “worth every penny”.  To a man, everyone who swung the clubs loved the look (I think one guy actually drooled on them), but as you might expect, an X-stiff shaft (even a soft stepped one) isn’t for everyone.  Not everyone was keen on the feel, although the feedback I heard was focused more on weight of the shafts (too heavy) rather than the feel of the head itself.  While generally speaking, I don’t notice the weight of the shafts for the duration of a round of golf, after hitting a couple of hundred balls on the range…yeah…I start to notice it.  If you are concerned about shaft weight, Miura offers a wealth of shaft options, so you’ll have no problem finding the right shaft for your swing.

Conclusion

Let’s get the ugly part out of the way right now; yeah, at $1500, a set of Miura irons is likely the most expensive set of clubs you’ll encounter this side of Honma.  If price is the single biggest factor in your decision making process, I’ll willingly accept that Miuras simply aren’t for you.  No hard feelings.  If however, you place a premium on performance, quality and craftsmanship, a set of forged Miura irons might be just what you’re looking for.  If nothing else, one should certainly appreciate the Miura tradition.  In a marketplace dominated by corporate golf juggernauts, its refreshing that a family run business like Miura; where Mr. Miura still has a seat at the grinding wheel, his two sons run the forging and finishing operations, and where even Mrs. Miura sometimes helps prepare the heads for sandblasting, can survive and even thrive on playing field dominated by million dollar marketing budgets.  I think most golfers appreciate it when the product comes first.

As I was writing this review, I was somewhat leery of the overall tone.  At MyGolfSpy we try and remain as objective as we possibly can (take the good and the bad, and let the scores fall where they may), but I will admit to feeling a bit like a Miura fanboy as I wrote this up.  I will make no apologies for that.  We look at a lot of product.  Some bad, mostly good, and every now and again, something really special.  The Miura CB-501 irons most definitely fall into the special category.    Whether or not they’re worth $500+ more than other premium forged irons on the market today is a personal decision, but on performance, quality, and even elegance (a word not tossed around much in golf circles), the CB-501s are tough to beat.  My launch numbers say as much, and more importantly, so does the tournament win I collected this weekend with a bag full of Miura’s.

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      Thomas Chen

      5 years ago

      Put CB501 on Aerotech steelfiber. Best move to switch from game improving irons of Mizuno 900

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      Miquel

      11 years ago

      Like Ulyseys in ” the Oddysey” my search for the right irons was long, frustrating and cost me much? My search has ended with the creation on my miura combo set. Tournament blades p-7 and 501’s 6-4. Joel at golf etc… Was very patient with me and didn’t actually sell them to me as much as he gave me a taste… One pure last with a 6 iron ans the heavens opened and the angels sang. I hit it side by side with ping anser, 710 ap2, mizuno, etc… Joel talked about their craftsmanship, tolerances, blah blah blah like Charlie browns teacher – but all I “heard” was that sensation when I pured that 6 iron. It was just different. I took the plung without even asking “how much”? Like optimist prime, some components were new (heads), shafts recycled (pxi 5). Total cost of ownership makes them a real value!

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      u_board

      11 years ago

      Hi Guys, Hi Spy and thanks for that review. I am “re-reading” that one with a bit of nostalgy and happiness because it’s the one that convinced me to try to get my hands on a set of Miuras a few month ago. I tried the 501 in Belgium and it was more than “love at first sight”. I was initially looking for 501 but had a great opportunity to buy a set of 301 for an incredibly low price (considering Miura standards) with the exact same shaft you have. I play scratch today but considering the massive number of irons I’ve hit so far, these are the best clubs I’ve ever approached and guess what they are mine!!!! Even if this comment does not precisely deal with the review I really would like to thank you and highly advise to all of you to try a Miura club one day, bearing in mind that your wife and banker have to be warned…

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      Simon Burns

      11 years ago

      Recently picked up a mint used set of CB501’s shafted with DGTI s400’s spine aligned and tuned. At first the thin topline seemed a bit intimidating even compared to my MP-52’s and for some odd reason it makes the irons all feel longer than the Mizunos which they’re not. Iomic grips, first time ever in my hands are superb, and no longer do I have to consciously lighten my grip. First time out was as expected a bit off, no warmup, cool day, a bit erratic. It took a few holes but the first hint at what these actually feel like came on a layup – ball way below the feet, heavy first cut but decent lie, 240 to go and a 5-iron, choked down a bit and expecting about 165 yds. With a 3/4 controlled swing, easy tempo, it was more a light thump sound and instantly knowing great contact. Much less fade than I’d played for, 200 yds on the button. Mid high, boring flight, ball coming off the face like a rocket and the sweetest feel I’ve ever experienced. Being between 1/2 and 1 degree flatter than any of my other clubs they fit much better, great square to the line, flat, even divots. D3 and D4 SW’s are slightly higher than I’m accustomed to and I can finally feel where the clubhead is all the time. They’re definitely going to demand some work on the range and forgiveness is not like say, my RAZR’s, but you know instantly where on the face you caught the ball. Something I haven’t heard or ever experienced is the astonishing amount and consistence of backspin – even on a severe downhill short pitch with an 8-iron or PW, just a few yards of air in attempt to get plenty of roll, the ball always checked up on the second bounce. Phenomenal. No more fear up close, yet at full mid and long iron shots never too much spin. I don’t know what type of grooves are on the wedges but man can they stop a ball fast. They are gorgeous to look at, all right, and for the first time ever I’m actually using soft headcovers on the irons – just to avoid dinging them up packing then around in the truck. Being a proper and righteous “club ho” I think I’m finished looking for that perfect set of irons. No matter what it takes, even if I have to relearn my swing, these are it, the last set ever. BTW, I’m around a 12 handicap, in my mid 50’s, swing a driver in the 105-110 range and avg about 285 off the tee -with the odd kind of handicap. One day it’s a 90 the next it’s mid-70’s but I can still putt like a madman. It’s almost embarrassing to have my neon pink Bubba G20 driver in the same bag as these beauties, but hey, that pink stick gained me 30 yards.
      If money isn’t the determining factor in what you play, you owe it to yourself to hit a Miura iron. The more I look at them the more I believe that 90% of all this IS in your head. Don’t let anybody tell you can’t or shouldn’t hit a MB or a blade because you’re not good enough – pick an iron that you love the looks of, get them shafted for your swing and to hell with the nay-sayers. Game improvement? It’s loving your irons, and Miuras? – you will love ’em.

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      Lynn Morrison

      12 years ago

      I recently bought a set of Miura baby blades, 4-P and being a 2 handicap I have to say that they are the best feeling, most accurate irons I have EVER used. I stand over them with TOTAL confidence. I can shape shots and control my trajectory with these clubs MUCH better than my MP68’s.

      Amazing irons!

      Lynn

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      Louis

      12 years ago

      After trying the Miura 501 & Tour Blades have found heaven before I go there, I hope.
      My son had a chance to hit some 501’s of a Professor @ Old Dominion U & warned me not to try them.
      If you don’t want to have to justify so much for a set of clubs then DON’T hit them or you will be hooked.
      The wife gave me the OK to buy a set of finely made clubs so I have a mixed set of 501’s & Blades coming.
      Only problem is that I have waited 4 weeks for the blades & they as it seems they are more popular than the 501’s.
      I am 63 years old & this will be my last set for this life & I am trying to figure how to take them with me.
      Any ideas?
      I hit MIzzy, Titleist, Calaway & Taylormade before taking the plunge.
      Also be advised Miura had a price increase April of this year & the expense is going up like a rocket.

      louis

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      Kevin kelly

      12 years ago

      I’m still playing my miura cb 501s since they first came out. Awesome clubs. Seem to feel and get better with each passing day. While I know that’s in my head I feels like it’s real. I’ve had three spine surgeries in last four years. Went out for my first 18 hole round and had hole in one. 8 iron 167 on the fly. These clubs just feel great. I love the consistency of trajectory and distance when struck on the sweetspot. And I’ve never really distance off slight off center strikes. They are not inexpensive but are a great value. You will buy several sets of lesser clubs in search for that one magical set. I invested in these and will not look back. As I near 60 when my swing slows I will keep the heads and change out shafts! Take a sample club or two out if you can. You’ll never regret the decision to try. And you don’t have to be a scratch player to enjoy them. My best bud is a 17 handicap. Hit these farther and better than any of the helper clubs he owns. It was a shock to him. And when he hit it great it was a feeling he had never felt in a club before. Great custom fit forged irons are the best.

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      Jim

      12 years ago

      Just took delivery of a set of 501’s with Aerotech Steelfiber 95 shafts. I had been jonesing for Miura’s since I hit a set of 301 a couple of years ago. When I was getting fit, the fitter was skeptical that they would be right for me but the numbers don’t lie. Dispersion was the best of the half dozen or so heads tested and the feel is undescribable, but the most unexpected feature is the results from bad shots. I don’t like the term “forgiveness” because that normally means a compromise with feel and workability. The 501’s accomplish this without the compromise. While they are expensive, as I told my wife, I don’t chase women, drink or take drugs. As vices go, good golf equipment is the most harmless.

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      Dan m.

      12 years ago

      Just an opinion/sugestion from an admirer of what you do here. Based on what I have learned from your sight I have bought both the Adams 9064 LS and just this week pulled the trigger and got fitted for Miura clubs, CB-501 2 dregrees up 1/2 inch long and kbs stiff soft stepped. He was going to put me on baby blades but since I am 50 and not going to get stronger we went with the CB-501. The fitting was everything I expected. The clubs come in this week, boy do I want this warm Va. weather to hold up. I take your reviews very much to heart.

      I think if you gave two seperate scores one for factual numbers and one for the subjective numbers I think the ratings would be even better. You could rank them by top factual scores and the top total scores.

      That said thanks for the great sight!

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      Dan m.

      12 years ago

      Well I recieved my CB-501 irons this week. He put me on bigger grips, Golf Pride mid size multi compound grips with 5 turns at the top and 8 turns at the bottom. I don’t like the way they feel because they make it harder to swing throught the ball and I have a fad now just about 5-10 yards but I have been a strait ball hitter for years. I will see the fitter again this week and regrip to a standard golfpride multi w/ rib and I think that will give me back my normal ball flight. I did have some very nice differences that the clubs have changed for me, I hit my KZG forged III 7 iron 155 yards and the new CB-501 7 iron 165 yards… I also had the ultimate first shot with my new 7 iron, I had a hole in one from 167 yards. I will regrip and let you know if that gives me back my ball flight. I do love the way they feel…
      Thanks to your review and the many comments I read hear on this sight

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      Dan m.

      12 years ago

      Thanks to your review and the many comments I read here on this sight I decided to try Miura. I considered how much money I would save over the long run if I could bag these irons for 10 years or more years verses buying two sets or more in that time. I used the same process with my new Adams 9064 LS driver I found out about on your sight. I spent extra money getting fitted for a shaft and put a matrix ozik tp hd 6 firm shaft in my driver, I added 16 yards and reduced my off center yardage by 9 feet down to just 6.5 feet. My short term outlay of cash was far higher than ever in my golf life but I really think my bag will be the same for years. I am pretty sure that with the rules for drivers I will be hard pressed to improve by enough with a new driver to make my change, and the same goes for my Miura irons… Thanks for what you do!

      bedi

      12 years ago

      Excellent review, and great comments.
      Recently i hit the ping i15 (blue, .5 upright) and loved the feel and softness of the clubs, before this i had my mind set on the cb501s,
      has anyone hit both…. any feed back would be much appreciated. Cost diff is “only 1000$s though.

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      Jim

      12 years ago

      I haven’t hit he i15’s but I did get to test the i20’s last fall before their release. They are exceptional clubs and the first Ping’s I would ever consider buying. Still, I bought the cb 501s instead. Comparing the two is apples and oranges. The i20s are very easy to hit and very long but gave no real pleasure. Hitting them is automatic.The cb 501s feel more like an extension of the golfer. Its hard to describe the experience. You can’t go wrong with either, it just depends what you want from your clubs.

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      Tony

      12 years ago

      I’ll say it, I’m a Miura fanboy. Not that it matters but I played collegiate golf in the SEC from 2004-2007. After college I stopped playing golf as often as I did and my scores sure showed that. Before I looked at the Miura’s I was hitting Nike blades. The first time I saw a Miura Club was last year at a Local Club fitters home here in Seattle. I fell in love. I decided not to purchase the blades as I wasn’t playing as much and figured I’d benefit more with a more forgiving club. So I went with the CB-501 with the KBS C-taper low launch shaft. Those things are absolutely beautiful and a blast to hit. It wasn’t 5 months later and Miura Introduced the Black Blade Limited Forged irons. Long story short I’m now the owner of 2 sets of Miura Irons. The toughest decision I make on a weekly basis is what set am I going to play with next. On another note, I also have the KM-007 putter, A K-grind 56, and 2 y-grind Miura wedges. I’m hooked.

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      amarjot

      12 years ago

      hi, i am also switching from the callaway x forged to the miura 501s , am getting them completly based on reviews.

      also about the wedges how do the c , y grinds compare to the regular wedges of the miura.

      thanks

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      rob

      13 years ago

      It’s hard to find a set of irons that compare to the Miura’s. Yes, Fourteen’s are nice if you are looking for a set of cavity backs and don’t want to spend an arm and a leg (Fourteen’s aren’t a bargin either). But there’s something to owning a set of Miura’s.

      Personally, I have a set of 1957 Small Blades and I love them. At address they are small, especially the 3 iron. But I know exactly what each iron is going to do, that’s what my Miura’s do for me.

      BTW, if you are in San Diego and want to demo a couple of different Miura irons, stop by Fairway Golf.

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      froneputt

      13 years ago

      From seeing players’ numbers with Miuras versus other irons – it’s not the shaft. Those Miura heads produce higher ball speeds.

      As to feel, I have not hit the 501s, but owned 201’a — I can tell you that Mizunos in general do feel a tad softer. The Miuras feel more like surgical instruments, — precise, direct, and dense — giving you a unique point and shoot feeling. Maybe it’s the spin-welded hosel that gives Miura it unique feel along with the high quality steel Miura uses.

      Great clubs. I am no great ballstriker — but I’m dreaming 6-PW with Nippons.

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      Tim Ellis

      13 years ago

      Just two days ago I was fitted for a set of CB501’s with Nippon shafts and if I wasn’t excited enough after reading this review I’m like a kid waiting for Christmas! I won’t get my clubs for a few weeks yet as all the components need to shipped over to the UK – and then I have to go back to my club fitter for the lofts & lies to be tweaked. They’re not cheap but they are a thing of beauty and if they perform like everyone says then I may yet get my name on the Honours Board in the clubhouse!

      Great website and a great review! Many thanks.

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      Mike Osbourne

      13 years ago

      Excellent review as usual, I like the fact that you explain you have a preference for Miz’s, I think we all have a preference for one brand over another for a multitude of reasons..What I also like is that similar to me you are open to change..

      I agree with a guy that made the comment this is one of the best sites around..Love the reviews..keep up the good work!

      Kind regards from the UK

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      w.medlin

      13 years ago

      i can’t get away from mygolfspy since my discovery of your site.i think it is the ultimate golf enthusiast’s web site.also the new site is extremely well done.just wondered if you guys have ever reviewed the epon af 302 irons.would these irons be as good a quality as the miura.trying to get back to the game and only with the right irons.will go with an experienced club fitter for the first time ever.really value mygolfspy reviews and advice.thanks

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      mygolfspy

      13 years ago

      Thanks Medlin!

      We have not reviewed the Epon 302 irons…although I have hit them. Both the 301 and 302 are great irons. But would have to hit the Miura’s and Epon head-to-head to be able to give you a valuable piece of advice. Don’t think you will go wrong with either head though.

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      kevin kelly

      13 years ago

      I loved your write up on the cb 501’s. Truly an amazing club. I have a set of 1957 tour small blades with the same KBS shaft. Not bad for a guy a couple years from 60. Truly they finest clubs I’ve ever played. Stroked a 172 7 iron a month or so ago to a tucked pin. Felt like butter and easy to hit. Miura is right most people can play these clubs better. I had my third back surgery last year and was worried about hitting the 3,4,5 irons with the baby blades. I added, with permission from miura, the cb 501’s in the 3,4, and 5. Wow. You’re plus rating is correct. Every shot has been solid. And the offset, perimeter weight, muscle back helps tremendously. I will have to order the remainder of the set some day down the road as I slip into super senior competition. I’ve never played with better clubs. Worth every penny and the time invested in fitting. Its only a matter of whether someone wants to spend the money on the last set of clubs they’ll ever need. I loved your write up, new President of Miura golf Adam Barr will love your words and write up. Kevin Scratch Kelly

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      Christopher

      13 years ago

      I used to belive that the more you pay for an item, the better it will be. But what does better, or the best mean? Everybody has a different answer to what it means. Ever hear about a company name Fourteen? I head they have of the “best” irons made. And also, they are forged. I wonder how many of you ever compaired a set of irons made by Fourteen to the Miura brand.

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      mygolfspy

      13 years ago

      Chris – we actually reviewed some of the Fourteen irons in this article:
      http://mygolfspy.com/forged-cb-irons/

      Mark H

      13 years ago

      I’ve had my Miura blades for a year now. I was always a blade player until the last ten years when I bought into the PR that you had to have forgiveness in your irons. The Miuras have the best feel of any iron I’ve played. Anyone less than a 15 can play blades. In the year I’ve had them, I’ve holed two shots from the fairway and had more chip-ins than the last five years combined. Getting a good shaft is important. I got the KBS 90’s and like them.

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      Conrad

      13 years ago

      Hello, anyone have any info on the Miura driver? Thank you, CGG…

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      Michael Tracy

      13 years ago

      I’m on my third set of miura’s and believe me when I tell you I’m a bad bad club ho. I’ve bagged at least 20 sets these past dozen seasons and I haven’t played a better stick nothing close. The look the feel the search is over. Thank you Mr Miura By the way the three sets my first 201’s and two sets of the 202′ s

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      Tas Economou

      13 years ago

      About Miura 501’s…I went in for a comprehensive fitting a few days ago and after some time on the computer etc., the fitter gave me four irons and asked I go spend time at the range to see what I thought of them. After about 500 balls, here are my views.

      Two of them are simply not to be. The third, I’d give it a 7 on a scale of 10, but not what I truly would like to have as I work to bring down my index. I picked up the last one and pured my first ball. Then the next 4 in a row. I cannot adequately express how good the contact felt. The trajectory was pleasing to see. The most significant impression was the accuracy. I couldnt get over it. Every single time I produced a reasonably acceptable swing, the ball went exactly to the target. I had to start laughing as it seemed unbelievable. I realized I hadn’t looked to see what brand this iron was, so I did and it was a Miura 501. Another shocker for me, in addition to its accuracy and feel, my distance was one to two club lengths further. Frankly, I don’t know if the distance increase was due to something special about the Miuras…or something very poor about my current off the rack irons. Who am I to argue!

      I go back for the follow up session tomorrow. I winced when I looked and saw the cost of these irons ($1600 for 3-PW), but unless the fitter comes up with something even better, I’m ready to buy, even if it takes a ‘stealth’ purchase so my wife doesn’t get too reactive.

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      Marion Lovett

      14 years ago

      I just bought a set of Miura 501’s being custom made now by a Miura fitter. i am 65 year old
      and needed more distance. We are going with TT M80 shaft in irons,and wedges. The Miura
      driver 390cc,and 3 wood are going with 43 gram shafts. Love the wedges around the green.
      The new 350 putter is awesome. I’ve been a blade man for years,but as we get younger, we
      need more help. My AP-1 with KBS 90’s are fine,but are to heavy. Any body considering a
      new set of Irons save your money. This will be the best investment you’ll make if you love the
      game.

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      Appreciator

      14 years ago

      How does a set of Miura irons fitted with KBS 90, stiff flex shafts go? Anyone has any comments? Really love the looks of it. Thinking of getting it. Which is the best online site to order these irons? I live in South East Asia.

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      Snufles

      13 years ago

      goto

      Torquegolf They are the fitter in that region.

      Also, I dared to demo a 6 iron Tour Blade and walked out with an order for the LE Babies.

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      Appreciator

      14 years ago

      I went to take a look at the Miura irons after my friend told me about it. At my nearest retail shop, there were a couple on display. They are all fitted with one standard shaft, the KBS 90 stiff flex. Did some half swing(shadowing) and it really feels great, not too heavy, felt really balanced. Does anyone know if this shaft is better than the Project X 5.0? It’s really one of the most beautiful clubs I’ve seen.

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      Slimgoody

      14 years ago

      Guys, I think you all are head on except Mr. Looper respectfully but I just want to warn you all — DO NOT HIT ANY MIURA’S IRONS —– I have never done any drugs but from what I hear this is the same addiction — a friend of mine let me hit his baby irons and I was blown away — I went to the fitter the following day and he let me try several heads and shafts and then gave me demo 6iron to my settings to play with — Needless to say I am $1500.00 dollars short and I am not rich by no means.

      I used to play the Mizuno MP32’s and I am a 12 HDCP — Hitting out of rough with these Miura Irons is like butter You Have been Warned :)

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      Sir Old Golfer

      14 years ago

      They look good.. The price that’s a different story… can you achieve the same results and save 500 dollars ?

      Reply

      Mario Dotchev

      14 years ago

      I am a proud owner of the Miura cb-202 with Project X, 5,5 for a 3th year. Some of the shafts are showing rusty dots on the chrome suface and I suspect the rust is doing its work, eating the metal away and digging in . I got the clubs from a fitting shop just outside NY but I reside in Europe – long way away to just pop in for a complaint. Please, let me know how to go about this? By the way, these clubs are my second set after the callaway X18 and there is no way I woul ever consider other make.
      Regards,
      Mario

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      chris

      14 years ago

      i’ve been lucky enough to try a few of the miuras. love the baby blades the most! but from what i know, most people wouldn’t even go near them (small head, not the most forgiving). all miura irons have a very sleek look and soft feel. price however, is always an issue and not many people are willing to spend that kind of money on just a set of irons.

      looper: please. pros pay for their own miuras. that in itself is a testament to the brand and the quality of their product, especially when so many of them have companies that are willing to pay.

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      matthew

      14 years ago

      i was SO close to buying a set of miura blades. i LOVE how small their heads are compared to the other leading blades and the legendary reputation they have for their forgings didn’t hurt either…. but then the mp 68 came out and, unfortunately, the price difference made the decision easier than it should have been. i am very impressed with the mp-68s and im very happy with the purchase but i still wonder about those miura blades hahahaha.

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      scott

      14 years ago

      under Trajectory it was mentioned that “Of course, on those occasions where the ball has rolled off the back, I’ve been less enthused, but overall, I’m happy with the results”
      I’d like to know if this is a major issue with the lower trajectory? Was it a problem throughout the set or just in the long irons?

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      KWheels

      14 years ago

      I love my current sticks and don’t generally look elsewhere. Although, I would give these a try if I had some extra cash laying around. ;)

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      cheymike

      14 years ago

      “to me the measure of a golf company is how many pro’s put it in the bag”… dont you realize they PAY those guys to play their clubs?? An example… TW has made millions playing golf, yes… but he’s a BILLIONAIRE! His career golf winnings… $105,998,143. That’s about 10% of what he’s made. And that my friend is called endorsement money and it goes to every pro on every “staff” the big companies have.

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      Rowland

      14 years ago

      It is a cruel streak you have reviewing such clubs that are out of range of the average guys pocket. Why not get Miura to donate a set fully fitted for someone that wins one of you competitions.

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      P-Gunna

      14 years ago

      Looper:

      The measure of good equipment is definitely NOT how many pros put it in the bag. Taylor Made has the most pros playing their equipment because they have the buying power to get a bunch of pros on their roster so people like you will buy their equipment.

      Taylor made got that buying power by marketing their adjustable equipment to amateur players and hackers who bought it into adjust-ability with hopes it would cure their slices and shanks.

      I am sure Adams Golf and Mizuno would have something to say about that statement as well.

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      Kip

      14 years ago

      sounds like someone works for ping.

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      Favre the Looper

      14 years ago

      I understand the craftsmanship part of it, but to me the measure of a golf company is how many pro’s put it in the bag. Dont think I’ve seen Miura on a visor lately.

      As for your love of the blade/muscle back. I couldnt agree more. The look of a club at address is HUGE in confidence buliding. This year I diverted. After some testing, I broke down and got a set of Ping G15’s. Other than TaylorMade, I’ve had every iron company imaginable in my bag, these battlesticks are FREAKING INCREDIBLE!

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      FSU#21

      14 years ago

      hey looper, go over to japan if you need to see a MIURA visor on a pro’s head. SCRATCH golf is one of the top club company’s out there and they have one kid on staff. there are 2 fellow teaching professionals on my staff that paid for and bag MIURA irons and they both can play anything they want for free. i would leave TAYLOR MADE for SCRATCH right now if they had any kind of staff offering.some of the best clubs made cant get a break because they dont have the deep pockets that the big boys do. MGS- i think your spot on with your assesment of MIURA irons. true craftsmanship goes a long way and unfortunetly is becoming a lost art in the industry. i would venture to say that your distance test was also correct. my TAYLOR MADE guy talked me into scrapping my PROJECT X’S and going with KBS TOUR’S and it took a while to gauge my yardages. im about 1/2 to 3/4 a club longer.

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      GolfSpy T

      14 years ago

      Unlike the the “bigger names” in the industry, Miura doesn’t pay pros. What’s more telling is that Miura has been sub-contracted out on more than one occasion when other OEM’s pros have requested something special. When OEMs need something better than they can produce themselves, they go to Miura. Miura wins include 2 Masters, a US Open, and a Senior PGA Championship. Bottom line, just because a given pro’s clubs don’t say Miura on them, it doesn’t mean they aren’t.

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      Wes Brasher

      13 years ago

      I am decidedly biased about Miura clubs, so I will refrain from offering my testimonial of personal love for my Miuraism blades. However, I think it is important to reinforce what GolfSpy T says here. Miura does not pay pros to play their equipment, and did not pay KJ Choi to play the 501 to win the The Players. It is true that there are and have been many PGA players using Miura forged clubs under many big OEM names, I have my picture with Tiger Woods’ Titleist irons made at Miura taken at the Miura factory. The Miuras are an incredible family business and they make the most amazing golf clubs I have ever seen or played.

      stan

      13 years ago

      “I understand the craftsmanship part of it, but to me the measure of a golf company is how many pro’s put it in the bag. Dont think I’ve seen Miura on a visor lately.”

      thats because Miura doesn’t pay pro’s to play their clubs. In fact there are actually many players on tour playing Miura forged irons with their respective companies stampings. ie) freddy couples

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      ed

      14 years ago

      Looks like you may have a set of ‘zuno’s that may be available. I can take them off your hands, I wouldn’t want you to get in trouble with your wife. My wife once said “why do you have 4 sets of golf clubs in the garage?’, I said “beacause we don’t have room for 5 sets !”.
      (true story)
      I STARTED playing golf with MP33’s !! I didn’t know any better, now I play the 950’s, but I still drool over the 52’s at Golfsmith !

      Great review,if I hadn’t retired I may have looked for those Miura’s !

      ed

      Reply

      Preston

      14 years ago

      The best equipment article I have ever read in a magazine was about 2 years ago in Golf Mag. They did a test of all of the major golf balls starting at around $15 per dozen. They used a robot to gather data and then posted distance with driver and wedge spin on a full shot with a 56 degree wedge. I looked foward to the same issue the following year but they did not follow up on it. I would love it if you could do something like this for your website. I know it might be hard to do all of them all at once, but doing a review of each brand at a time and most importantly posting the rpms from the wedge and distance from thre driver would be awesome. Any chance that you will be doing something like this in the future? Btw, I think this is the best source for golf equipement reviews.

      Reply

      cheymike

      14 years ago

      Nice score!! Wish I could be so lucky, even if i couldn’t do them justice. LOL! Hope you get a LOT of enjoyment out of them and the scores just keep coming down. :)

      Reply

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