2016 Most Wanted Driver Test – The Details
Drivers

2016 Most Wanted Driver Test – The Details

Support our Mission. We independently test each product we recommend. When you buy through our links, we may earn a commission.

2016 Most Wanted Driver Test – The Details

About 2016 Most Wanted

Looking for a new driver? Let us help.

The 2016 Most Wanted Test is, bar none, the most comprehensive driver test conducted anywhere in the golf equipment industry. Unlike others in golf media who conduct club tests, MyGolfSpy does not accept advertising dollars from any of the companies in this year’s test. We don’t just claim unbiased, we live it. That means performance is the only thing that matters. Forget logos (and ad spends), you can be sure the best drivers finish on top, regardless of whose logo is stamped on the soleplate.

foresight-balls

The Test

As a group, our testers hit a sum total of more than 7,500 shots to help us determine our 2016 Most Wanted Driver. All testers hit Bridgestone B330-RX Balls. All shots were recorded using Foresight GC2 Launch Monitors with HMT.

This year, testing took place at the MyGolfSpy Test Facility in Yorktown, VA. Over the course of several weeks 20 testers hit each of the 28 drivers in this year’s test.

Following the tradition we started, we will make our data available to you with the hope that you will use it to reach the conclusions most applicable to your game.

Tomorrow we will publish those results. This year’s addition of our annual Most Wanted Driver test is the first significant test conducted in our new testing facility. We hope you’re as excited to see the results as we are to share them.

Invitees and Participants

unbiased-testing-support (2)
*Of the brands that declined to participate in this year’s test, MyGolfSpy elected to purchase drivers from the market leaders at retail.

Here’s the full list of the 28 driver models we tested this year:

Bridgestone J715

Bridgestone J815

Bridgestone JGR

Callaway Alpha 816 DBD

Callaway Great Big Bertha

Callaway XR 16

Callaway XR 16 Pro

Cobra KING F6

Cobra KING F6+

Cobra KING Ltd.

Knuth High Heat

Mizuno JPX

Nike Vapor Flex 440

Nike Vapor Fly

Nike Vapor Fly Pro

PING G

PING G SF Tec

PING G LS Tec

TaylorMade M1 460

TaylorMade M1 430

TaylorMade M2

Titleist 915 D2

Titleist 915 D3

Srixon Z355

Srixon Z545

Srixon Z745

Wilson D200

Wilson FG Tour F5

spiral

What’s New for 2016

For 2016 we have introduced two significant changes to our data evaluation process.

Improved Outlier Detection – Removing all subjectivity from the outlier detection process has long been one of our goals. This year we’ve done that. The credit goes to MyGolfSpy reader, Dr. Steven Clark of Utah Valley University. Steven, who has provided his own compelling analysis of our data in the past, volunteered his time to see if he could find a methodology that would help us better identify outliers.

Dr. Clark took a subset of this year’s data and used it to evaluate several methods of outlier detection. Median Absolute Deviation, or MAD, was shown to be the most reliable. We’ve integrated that into this year’s test. In addition to removing all subjectivity from the process, the end result is fewer dropped shots, and more visible performance differences between clubs.

We’d like to take this opportunity to thank Steven for his time and publicly acknowledge his contribution to this and future tests.

Strokes Gained Methodology – What’s the appropriate balance between distance and accuracy? How do you evaluate total performance of a driver? We believe the best available answers lie in Mark Broadie’s Strokes Gained methodology.

We love Strokes Gained because it considers both distance and what we like to call functional accuracy in evaluating the probabilities of success. In some respects this is a significant departure from how driver performance is traditionally evaluated, but we believe its an avenue well worth pursuing.

For those who still prefer the old ways of looking at driver performance, all the data will be made available to you.

mw-scatter3

Publication Schedule

Unlike past years we won’t make you wait to find out which driver is 2016’s Most Wanted. Tomorrow morning we’ll announce our Most Wanted Driver of 2016. Early tomorrow afternoon we’ll post the best overall selections for high and low swing speed golfers.

Wednesday will be distance day. We’ll look specifically and exclusively at what we call peak distance. For those of you who want to know which drivers will provide maximum distance on your best struck shots, we’ll have your answers.

Unlike years past we won’t be dedicating a separate day to accuracy. Accuracy is a significant contributing factor to Strokes Gained and we don’t see a pressing need to highlight it this year. For those who want the data, however; both yards from center line and a revised version of our truAccuracy scores will be provided. We’ll also publish Shot Area (90% confidence ellipse) sizes for each driver.

Finally, as we always do, we’ll publish a follow-up post containing some additional details that we found interesting, along with answers to some of the questions you ask in the comments section.

shaft-trees

Thank You

Finally, we’d like to again say thank you to our readers for your support, and the financial contributions that helped build our test facility.

We’d also like to thank each of the 9 companies; Bridgestone, Callaway, Cobra, Knuth, Mizuno, Nike, PING, Srixon, and Wilson, who chose to stand behind their products, put the consumer first, and willingly participate in this year’s Most Wanted test. Kudos to all.

For those waiting for the results, tomorrow can’t come soon enough.

For You

For You

Drivers
Apr 23, 2024
Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Paradym Drivers
Golf Apparel
Apr 22, 2024
12 Mother’s Day Gift Ideas from adidas
News
Apr 22, 2024
An Inside Look At Custom Simulator Bay Installations With InHome Golf’s James Laidlaw
MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy

Our mission is #ConsumerFirst. We are here to help educate and empower golfers. We want you to get the most out of your money, time and performance. That means providing you with equipment reviews you can trust, as well as honest reporting on the latest issues affecting the game today. #PowerToThePlayer

MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy

Driver Ping G30 Hybrids PXG 0317
3/4 IRON PXG 0311XF 5-GW Srixon Z 565
SW PXG 0317 LW PXG 0311
Putter EVNROLL  
MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy

MyGolfSpy





    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

      CLAY

      8 years ago

      Seems the publication schedule has gone off the rails a bit, totally understandable given the huge amount of data. I am really looking forward to the breakdown by swing speed. Also, would be nice to know what goes furthest when you absolutely nut one.

      Reply

      Timothy

      8 years ago

      When will you provide the actual data? would like to compare my swing data to similar golfers in your test.

      Reply

      John Porter

      8 years ago

      JGR should be at or near the top if based on numbers only.

      Reply

      BR

      8 years ago

      Very excited as always to see the most wanted rankings. I know several are a little upset that Titleist, TaylorMade, PXG won’t be in this test as well as some of the others. Couple of thoughts. I have tried several models of the brands that choose not to participate. IMO, Krank and PXG need to be fit for shaft, ball flight in outdoor testing. Titleist and TaylorMade usually have decent stock off the shelf offerings and demo’s can be found at most major retailers, golf shops. BUT at the same time I feel Titleist and TaylorMade have the most to loose should be upset by an up and comer company and/or a brand like Wilson Staff (which I love)…. Callaway has a chip on its shoulder and wants to dominate again so IF they can beat/dominate Titleist and TaylorMade then mission accomplished. Ping (quality as always) has its loyal following and will be fine with or without anything this test shows regardless of ranking. Cobra is the one that is about to upset the norm, basically somebody’s got to go from the big 3 or 4….. I am seeing many many more Cobra drivers in bags at courses and driving ranges. Finally, I am very encouraged with MGS and its continued testing improvement. Very fortunate to have this data before planning my demo testing.

      Reply

      Sarge

      8 years ago

      I have tried a few of the new drivers. I use regular flex shafts and am currently using a Cobra driver. The best of the ones I tried with my slower swing speed was the Callaway Great Big Bertha.
      I could not use the same model shaft in all the drivers during my fitting as they did not have one for each of the drivers.
      Very interested to see the results for regular shaft and slower swing speed drivers.

      Reply

      stevegp

      8 years ago

      I’m curious to see how some of the lesser known or marketed companies’ drivers do in your test. For example, I am really interested in how the Srixon and Bridgestone drivers compare. They are not as readily available to demo, yet I have heard a number of good comments.

      I also want to applaud you for listing the manufacturers who declined your invitation to submit a driver for the test.

      Reply

      David

      8 years ago

      Obligatory, “when will you be doing the MW fairways/hybrids/irons/wedges/putter reviews?”

      Reply

      Dave S

      8 years ago

      Not surprised PXG, Bombtech, Krank and TourEdge declined… they really have nothing to gain (contrary to popular belief), b/c they don’t create as good a product (or one that justifies the $ premium). They’re operating under the old adage: “Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and confirm it.”

      I AM surprised by TM and Titleist though, considering they typically have done very well in past tests. The thing about those to OEMs though is that unless they’re #1, they feel like they lost. They must think the reward of being named MGS MW Driver is less than the risk of not winning. Oh well… just makes them look bad, b/c they have to know MGS is going to buy their clubs and test them anyway.

      Reply

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      Titleist hasn’t participated in our tests in years. Some of that is simply how Titleist operates, and some of that has to do with Titleist not approving of some of our other content; specifically early info/spy pics on Titleist products…our unwillingness to arrange our content schedule such that aligns with how it would like information distributed. Certainly we’d never ask Titleist to change its business model to accommodate ours, but they’re not willing to work with us until we change our model to something more suitable to its business.

      That said, we have tremendous respect for the brand, it’s people, and how it/they run the business. We have a cordial relationship with the guys over there, the lines of communication are open, and efforts to find common ground are ongoing. I believe eventually we’ll figure it out.

      With TaylorMade it’s a bit more complex. The company is not happy with our editorial coverage regarding the potential sale (and now the confirmation of a sale that will happen). I’m reasonable certain they haven’t appreciated my comments that have been critical of its CEO and some of the statements he’s made.

      I’d also venture to say it wasn’t happy to learn that we’ll be putting its claim that M2 Fairway is 10.3 yards longer than RBZ to the test. Basically, TaylorMade expects media to stick to the bullet points it provides and absolutely never question the validity of its claims or statements from its leadership. Failure to abide by the rules has consequences. It has, to a degree, always been this way, but over the past several months, the company has grown increasingly thin-skinned.

      We’ve been removed from all TaylorMade media lists, which means we don’t directly receive information about product launches, nor does the company provide samples of anything for testing. For that matter, representatives of the company, including its PR Manager and Cheif Marketing Officer do not return voice mails, emails, or text messages.

      Withholding product and information is, in short, TaylorMade’s attempt to punish us. In my opinion, trying to cutoff one of the largest media outlets in golf is not only petty, and comically absurd, it also reflects poorly on the brand. We’re talking about a company that tries to position itself as a leader, but runs and hides in the face of criticism. When challenged, TaylorMade takes its ball (and clubs) and goes home.

      For now, it is what it is. Time and time again we’ve shown that we’re more than capable of separating companies from people, people from product, and product from marketing. We’ll continue to do that with or without TaylorMade’s direct involvement.

      The others…PXG, Bombtech, Krank, and TourEdge, I’m sure they all have their reasons, and I suspect in most cases, you’ve probably hit the nail on the head.

      Reply

      Don

      8 years ago

      Rock on MyGolfSpy! Rock on! And please keep doing what you are doing because you guys are the only ones that seem to cut through all the shit to get to the facts we as golf consumers really need.

      Spitty

      8 years ago

      Taylormade opted not to join, OK no big deal. You explained what you thought, perhaps true that they prefer not to give you the staisfaction due to earlier editorials. Its their option like the other companies. if the true unbiased test is to post the most desireable driver, by your site. TM has everything thing to lose and very little, next to nothing to gain.

      BTW, you are testing the M1 driver, the current M2 by all of my contacts is selling like hot cakes why are you not testing that driver?

      Thats a serious test flaw to not include the current best seller by “all” manufacturers, not just Taylormade

      Spitty

      8 years ago

      ooops cancel that, I see the M2 was included. The TM drivers come with many stock no upocharge shaft options to maximise distance and play. Drivers are tough they all have limitations of ball speed, size and shape

      Ryan

      8 years ago

      Tour Edge makes excellent products at good price points. I’ve done many fittings where Tour Edge has blown away bigger competitors.

      Reply

      ryebread

      8 years ago

      That’s my thought exactly with respect to Tour Edge. I’m a little surprised by them declining. PXG, Krank and Bombtech — no surprises there. Another media outlet recently talked about the difficultly with Bombtech and having to source one. Krank has a built in niche market with the long drive community so there’s nothing but potential loss there. PXG would be the one that would seem to have to fear “the emperor’s new clothes” happening.

      I’m not sure I understand TE and would love to hear more there. Tour Edge’s products have done well in MGS testing. Maybe some luster is off the FWs given that other seemingly have caught them, but they’re still top performers particularly for the right golfer profile. Their “Beta” drivers have also done very well the last couple of years in the driver testing.

      Thanks as always for all the good work!

      Troy Vayanos

      8 years ago

      Looking forward to seeing how the Cobra King LTD does as this is my new driver. Hopefully it stacks up well against the other big boys.

      Reply

      Gordon

      8 years ago

      YES!!!!

      Reply

      David W

      8 years ago

      Will there be an article comparing last year’s data to this year’s? That’s what I really want to see. Actually it would be great to see the last 3 or 4 years compared,even if you only do the winning drivers.

      Reply

      Florent B

      8 years ago

      What I d like to see is 2016 vs 2015 models… They all claim “it got better” but do numbers back it up? Your next could be 2016 Best vs 2015 vs 2014…

      Reply

      Sharkhark

      8 years ago

      Umm….? Since last year’s results are there in cyberspace you can easily compare data from this year to last if you so choose… The testing and results are so detail oriented on so many levels let’s just keep it as easy to digest add possible without adding in unnecessary comparison to yesteryear…

      Reply

      Dave S

      8 years ago

      Unfortunately it’s not nearly that simple. Even if the same data points are used, the tester group will be different. How the Cobra Fly-Z performed for last year’s tester population may not be the same as with this years. It may be POSSIBLE, given the number of shots hit and the variation in handicap, etc., to get an idea of how they would have performed, but it certainly won’t be accurate enough to base a purchasing decision on.

      Brad Smith

      8 years ago

      Mr. Shark
      Umm….? It is obvious that looking at the data from last year’s results and comparing it to this year’s test data would be a bogus analysis. Different testers, maybe different balls and data capture (I can’t remember). Apples vs Oranges. Your idea of comparing this year’s data to last year’s is the non-simple method of comparison. Including maybe the past 2 year’s winners in this year’s test would have made the test exactly the same as we’ll be seeing, but it would between 30 or 32 drivers rather than 28. Apples vs Apples A pretty insignificant difference.

      Tony,
      Every year you hear the same request…”please include last year’s winner(s) so we can judge the “progress” of the industry and to help me decide whether or not I need to upgrade to the latest and greatest.” I don’t ever remember you answering the question, and you haven’t this year either.

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      We didn’t do it this year. It’s something we’re looking into and will probably implement in the future. Lots of proverbial moving parts this year, not the least of which was getting up and running with the new facility and the tweaks we made to our testing methodology. Sufficed to say we weren’t able to implement everything on our list this year.

      Upside…it means we still have lots of cool stuff we can implement for next year.

      revkev

      8 years ago

      Thanks for the explanation. I’ve been waiting for last year’s vs. this year’s for some time and now I know that the potential is out there. I’d really love the see the last four year’s winners included in the testing to be honest. :)

      Also I love the term functional accuracy. I’ll be anxious to learn how that’s defined. I’ve long said that fairway’s hit is not a very good indicator of driving ability.

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      Kevin, I think the basic accuracy metrics…even our slightly more advanced truAccuracy, and even the shot area metrics we used are flawed.

      Functionally, on an average hole, how much difference is there between 2 yards offline and 15 if both shots are in the fairway?

      Functionally, how valuable is a really tight Shot Area ellipse if a good portion of it is in the rough?

      By comparison, is it so bad to have a fairly rotund shot area if the overwhelming majority fall within the confines of the short grass?

      In our minds we knew that the ‘best’ driver was the one that hit the ball the farthest with reasonable accuracy, and a functional (there it is again) dispersion pattern. It sounds simple enough, but when you start overlaying ellipse after ellipse, the answers are anything but clear.

      The Strokes Gained driving metric provides that clarity. It considers distance, functional accuracy (that stuff I just mentioned) and also the lie condition (most of us would rather be 165 out in the fairway, than 150 in the gnarly heather (or worse)). The new way to look at data, we believe, provides a more complete picture, and that’s really exciting.

      It’s how we rank our Top 5s for award purposes, but we haven’t done it to the exclusion of the more common metrics. If you want distance, accuracy, etc., it will all be there in our sortable charts.

      joe

      8 years ago

      Hi Guys,
      Just to add a little old vs new comment I’m currently playing a tm sldr with a custom fit aldila shaft. Prior to this I had a TM supertri with the same shaft. Anyway long golf game made short, played with a guy recently who had bought my old driver from the second hand bin at my pro shop where i traded it in. He and I went to the range after our round and no real difference in carry distance but the sldr had less spin and more roll out on landing. So some of the new tech does work.

      Matt Michigan.

      8 years ago

      Cannot wait to see Cobra number one again!! Already seen them out perform any TMAG driver including the M1 or M2.

      Reply

      Tom Little

      8 years ago

      Buy a PXG driver. Love these clubs. They are an investment to be sure but if most golfers tried then they would want to trade anytime soon.

      Reply

      Warwick

      8 years ago

      Maybe but they certainly dont have the courage to have them tested against the others.

      Reply

      Sharkhark

      8 years ago

      Disappointed that you guys didn’t purchase the pxg driver. I’m very intrigued by their marketing & image… Would’ve loved the chance to hear about real time testing.
      Since you’ve played a huge part in spreading interest in this brand thru numerous articles how they match up performance wise would’ve been very cool.
      Yes I know you don’t take ad dollars.
      Yes I know they chose not to participate.
      Yes I know you can’t go out & buy infinite quantities of product just for test purposes…

      But still… I have read so much threads on them I was hoping I could read results. Oh well. Not your fault.
      If I made such brash comments as the go daddy man on my golf company I wouldn’t decline to show why you should pay twice as much for my stuff….

      Reply

      Donovan Childers

      8 years ago

      Just stock shafts? Any variation with flexes.

      Reply

      mcavoy

      8 years ago

      I would like to know this as well. There are several models that offer no upcharge shaft options. Could results be skewed by testers using a shaft that is not a good fit for their swing? I understand with the companies that did not participate it might be harder to get a hold of their various shaft options.

      Reply

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      This year we tested regular and stiff flex shafts. Companies are free to submit multiple shaft options provided it’s an option that’s available as part of an off-the-rack configuration.

      While some companies may offer 20-some-odd shaft options, the majority aren’t actually available off the rack. At that point those offerings are more accurately described as part of a custom/fitting program, and if you’re going to spend the time to go through a full fitting, you may not really be concerned with your best off-the-rack offerings.

      The Club Nut

      8 years ago

      So these tests are more accurately “Driver most probable to fit the average golfer straight off the rack” ?

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      I’d say “…with off-the-rack parts”. We make use of the adjustability and available off-the-rack shafts, but we’re not going to drop a $350 shaft into anything. That’s not how most golfers buy clubs. Our test is most relevant to the overwhelming majority of golfers who buy their drivers off the rack.

      Clay Fleming

      8 years ago

      Looking forward to this, I have tested several drivers this season and the best for me were M2, King LTD Pro, and 816 DBD. Of the major brands I was least impressed with the Ping G LS Tec. Interested to see how my own results compare to yours.

      Reply

      Kirby Oaks

      8 years ago

      What you didn’t buy a PXG driver and market retail to test?! Inconceivable! j/k I was hoping Tour Edge would’ve participated though.

      Reply

      Rob Roth

      8 years ago

      700 for an ping rip off just buy the real thing

      Reply

      stevegp

      8 years ago

      I look forward to reading your results.

      Thanks for doing these comparison tests. It helps cut through all the marketing claims and spin.

      Reply

      Raymond CHASTEL

      8 years ago

      Tony ,I m not sure you tested the KRANK FORMULA 6 .I play the KRANK clubs since many years and I find they give me more distance .
      But they are sure difficult to play.
      The easiest to play are the PING G 30 and the new PING G
      Raymond CHASTEL
      (From the FRENCH RIVIERA ,in the South of FRANCE )

      Reply

      Robert

      8 years ago

      Once again Bombtech has a chance to prove their claims and back out. I have been interested in their products but they make claims and refuse to participate in unbiased testing. They dont participate here or anywhere else. Its a shame

      Reply

      The Club Nut

      8 years ago

      PXG had the chance too and they backed out.. Not sure what this proves. The owner of bombtech does things his own way and the only testing he needs is his 60 day on-course guarantee. He’s already had a Rick Shiels test done – not by his own doing – but the ability to get one is available. It held it’s own and performed remarkably well. I would suggest you do your own testing with it, since it’s unlikely any other brand will give you 2 months to try their product with no questions asked returns and a flex swap.

      Reply

      Ken Venezio

      8 years ago

      PXG is so custom in their fitting, how could you/they find a single driver to test? That might be the reason. XR Sub Zero also offers 25 plus stock shafts.

      Kyle Morris

      8 years ago

      XR Sub Zero has been discontinued

      KV

      8 years ago

      Not sure about that. It’s the most current release from Callaway and just hit retail. That would be shocking.

      Sharkhark

      8 years ago

      Dude… If you were a regular reader on this site like most loyal readers you wouldn’t skim thru and would realize they did buy their own bombtech last year.
      It failed.
      Below average performance. Broad claims poor results.

      The Club Nut

      8 years ago

      I do regularly read the site — I was actually going to ask about that – but decided not to because they probably gave it away like most of their research products. As i recall it didn’t “Fail” either. it was a pretty good performer in the middle of the pack for just about everything..

      Sharkhark

      8 years ago

      Quoting Tony…. The site owner…

      MyGolf Spy
      June 13, 2016
      We tested their driver in 2015 and their driver performed below the average.

      They didn’t perform even middle of the pack as you say they preformed below average. There’s great. Good. Average and below average.
      They preformed below average.

      = a fail.
      If you claim to be as good as the big guys or even better then perform below even the mediocre ie average. That’s a failure.

      The Club Nut

      8 years ago

      From his mouth that’s fine. Not everyone can be above average, i’m just saying that looking at the data for myself – it doesn’t seem that it’s below average. I think it’s an average driver for their test group which is fine. Like most things – i know a good many players that hit the grenade club quite a bit better than anything else they’ve tried. I think they’re just as good as the big guys. According to the testing, it seems that the grenade beat some nice names that people swear by – nike vapor, Jseries, even the GLS tec in some categories and even a few of the above average ones in others. I think you have a chip on your shoulder for this sort of thing though. You’re entitled to your opinion, as i am mine. I just prefer to try things for myself when i have the option to, rather than listening to a bunch of random people on the internet. Which is where i was going with this– it’s the only driver with a guarantee. I remember when i tried to take my R11 back the next week after i bought it because i wasn’t hitting it well and wanted to get something else… never been laughed out of a store like that before.

      mcavoy

      8 years ago

      I get what you are saying and believe me I’m a big believer in what I see and experience with a product trumps whatever I see written about it. But IRT to return policies it really depends on where you shop. My experience is that Roger Dunn offers the best exchange policy and Golfsmith is not bad either. You wouldn’t have been laughed out of either of those places.

      Steve S

      8 years ago

      “never been laughed out of a store like that before.” Did you expect a full refund? Golfsmith, Dick’s and Galaxy will all give you a partial to use on something else in their store.

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      I believe that under our new system (fewer dropped shots, Strokes Gained, etc.) the Grenade would finish at or near the bottom. Again…just an educated guess. But we also know that even the worst driver in any test will be a great fit for some people. Golfers should always ignore logos and play what works.

      With that said, what I think should concern people about the Grenade is that it was described to me personally by the owner of the company as a low-back CG design. Our measurements proved beyond any reasonable doubt that it’s simply not that. More accurately the grenade is an excessively high, mid-CG design). What that means to me is one of 3 things:

      1) I was lied to outright
      2) The owner of Bombtech doesn’t know much about his own product
      3) Quality control is grossly lacking (It’s supposed to be low back – basically impossible given the design – but our sample was WAY out of spec)

      Take your pick from the three, but any of the above is a huge red flag and cause for legitimate concern.

      Robert

      8 years ago

      Anyone can make a guarantee. If it doesnt work ok heres your money back. I dont want ot do that. I want a club that works not a 2 month tr it out. I dont care about their customer service. For a guy who loves to tout his product as the greatest he doesnt seem to want to put it in play against others. I can say what I want and give you a money back guarantee but when you make claims like the owner does, you better be willing to put up or shut up

      Pete Ciambrone

      8 years ago

      Glad to see you include the drivers that declined to participate, I’ve done my own testing on the majority and I’m predicting the TMAG a real tough one to beat, anxiously awaiting the results!

      Reply

      Lou

      8 years ago

      Totally bummed that TourEdge would decline this test. They usually excel at this.

      Reply

      Joe Gendron

      8 years ago

      Shocking BombTech Golf didn’t participate given all their claims of greatness.

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      We tested their driver in 2015 and their driver performed below the average.

      Reply

      Cameron Lemke

      8 years ago

      MyGolfSpy you hate Bombtech, let’s not hide anything or pull punches here. I enjoy my Bombtech clubs, are they the best in the golf industry no, however bang for your buck they are a good stick.

      Rick Shiels also agrees they make a solid stick. Check out his review.

      Reply

      Majik

      8 years ago

      I’m with you on this one – I have A LOT of respect for Rick and his reviews… He doesn’t care which brand it is – if it’s good he’ll say so, if it’s not so good – he’ll say so, if it’s good, but the brand gave it a “stupid name” (a la M2), he’ll say that too.

      His results with the Grenade don’t lie. It’s a good club for the money.

      Kurren Virk

      8 years ago

      Everything is solid. There’s just better. Much better

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      There is no emotion such as hate in performance. You either perform or you don’t. Bombtech not only did not perform he misleads consumers with information that is simply not true. We are here for you the consumer and no matter what brand name misleads it is our job to inform you of such. What we think is interesting is that if a BIG name mislead you we find that you feel much differently vs. a small company.

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      Cameron Lemke The driver is at best mediocre, and using a strokes gained methodology, I suspect it would go from mediocre to poor. But as we’ve said, even the worst drivers fit someone. Claims vs. actual performance aside, here’s my personal issue with Bombtech:

      When I spoke with Sully last year, he told me the CG on the Grenade was low and back. By definition, that’s similar to G/G30, FLY-Z/F6. When we measured the Grenade we discovered that, in actuality, the CG location was middle and EXTREMELY high (we had to adjust the scale of our charts to make it fit). And that’s before we talk about the aerodynamics story that no aerodynamicist I’ve spoken with believes has any validity, but regardless, given the CG situation, one of three things has to be true:

      1) I was lied to.
      2) Bomtech’s owner knows very little about the actual design of his product.
      3) Quality control is grossly lacking (so much so that CG locations can differ TREMENDOUSLY from expectations on an individual basis.

      Now substitute “Bombtech” with Nike, TaylorMade, Callaway, PING, etc.. If a big golf company’s story (especially about something as concrete and verifiable as CG location), was as disconnected from reality as Bombtech’s, the consumer would be – and justifiably so – outraged. Should a company get a pass on playing fast and loose with facts because of it’s size?

      Again…there’s one of three things going on, and as a consumer any single one of them should be a huge red flag, and a total disqualifier. -TC

      Reply

      Steve

      8 years ago

      After this jerking of an article, I think I need a smoke now. Bring forward the results now!

      Reply

      Alex

      8 years ago

      Awesome, this is the first time TM decided to refuse and Callaway decided to accept?

      on a personal note I don’t think there’s a driver that can beat the starting position of my M1 in the bag. Can’t wait to find out what your findings are!

      Reply

      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      Callaway is back after a 1 year hiatus I believe. Yes, this is the first time TaylorMade has declined to participate.

      Reply

      Edward

      8 years ago

      Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that they are for sale? Or something. Idk just random guessing.

      Reply

      Alex

      8 years ago

      I think MGS did rustle some jimmies when they first reported on the rumor of sale before TM announced it. I remember TM denounced it and then reports came out few weeks/months later confirming. Maybe some bad taste from that, I’m glad they are on ok relations now with Callaway, or maybe Callaway knows they got something good this year.

      ryebread

      8 years ago

      There were rumors before MGS posted. If anything MGS probably validated them. If that aggravated TM, then so be it.

      My gut says the risk/reward wasn’t there for TM given the sale. While winning may have provided some boost and validation, finishing poorly would have clearly signaled the product pipeline wasn’t there as well — which could further hurt their valuation.

    Leave A Reply

    required
    required
    required (your email address will not be published)

    This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

    Drivers
    Apr 23, 2024
    Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Paradym Drivers
    Golf Apparel
    Apr 22, 2024
    12 Mother’s Day Gift Ideas from adidas
    News
    Apr 22, 2024
    An Inside Look At Custom Simulator Bay Installations With InHome Golf’s James Laidlaw
    ENTER to WIN 3 DOZEN

    Titleist ProV1 Golf Balls

    Titleist ProV1 Golf Balls
    By signing up you agree to receive communications from MyGolfSpy and select partners in accordance with our Privacy Policy You may opt out of email messages/withdraw consent at any time.