PUTTER REVIEW! – Odyssey Flip Face #5
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PUTTER REVIEW! – Odyssey Flip Face #5

PUTTER REVIEW! – Odyssey Flip Face #5

odyssey flip face review

ODYSSEY FLIP FACE GIVEAWAY Read…Comment…and Win! We are interested hearing your thoughts about the Flip Face concept in the comments section.  It’s worth your while to leave a comment, as one lucky MGS reader who leaves a comment will be selected at random to win their choice of one of the Flip Face putters! <<CONTEST ENDS JUNE 8th>>  <<ENTER NOW>>

Putter Tested: Odyssey Flip Face #5

(Written By: GolfSpy Dave) I can’t count how many times I have heard people argue about innovation in the putter market.  Who copied who, who is original, who is unoriginal, and so on.  I think that innovation in any market is a dangerous proposition.  On one hand, you have the chance to produce something new that will capture the imagination (and cash) of the golfing public.  On the other hand, producing something new is risky and could be fiscally painful should the public reject the new idea.  It’s much safer just to produce the same putter year after year, perhaps with a tweak in the finish or other minor feature.

The Odyssey Flip Face line of putters does not represent a minor cosmetic tweak of an existing line.  Instead, Odyssey has chosen to move into uncharted putter territory by making a putter with the ability to flip between two different faces and by doing so, two different inserts.  Other companies have produced putters where you can change the insert (like STX) or change all kinds of components (like Machine), but the two-putters-in-one nature of the Flip Face sets it apart from the adjustable putters of the past.  We are in new design territory here.

There is one question that must be asked thoughHas Odyssey produced a putter whose design will become another industry standard, or will the Flip Face end up in the bin with the other “interesting concept, but no thanks” putters?

Putter Features:

  • Metal-X and White Ice inserts
  • 345 grams
  • Face Balanced
  • Full Shaft Offset
  • Satin Finish
  • Lamkin 3GEN Pistol Grip
  • Loft 3 Degrees
  • Lie Angle 70 Degrees

BALL USED: Callaway Hex Black


FEEL

And so we begin the exploration in the duality that is the Odyssey Flip Face #5.  The Flip Face #5 feels either crisp/firm or soft depending upon the insert that you have in place.  This is, of course, the big deal with the Odyssey Flip Face, you can flip the face to switch between the softer White Ice insert and the firmer Metal-X insert.  We will talk about the effect on performance in a bit, but first lets address the feel.

Your take on the ability to change the feel of your putter will probably depend upon what you look for in a putter.  If the feel at impact is not something that you really pay attention to when putting, the Flip Face will feel fine to you regardless of face in play.  If you are a fan of the feel of both the White Ice and the Metal X inserts, then switching from the crisp to soft insert shouldn’t faze you much.  However, if you prefer a firm or soft feeling putter, then flipping the face will definitely effect your perception of this putter.

For me, I definitely prefer the crisp feel of the Metal-X insert to the softer White Ice insert.  As a result, I found that I wanted to practice more with the Metal-X in place, and this was the insert that I preferentially put in place on the course.  Sound and feel consistency and preference for the Metal-X trumped any performance benefits gained by flipping the face.  For the sake of this review, I did of course play both inserts on the course.  I don’t normally play putters that can flip their inserts, but when I do, I prefer Metal X.

LOOKS

Overall, I think that the Flip Face #5 will appeal to those who already like the look of the other Odyssey small mallets.  The balanced lines of the head’s perimeter as well as the thicker top line are just what the mallet player is typically looking for.  The seam on the back flange fits “seamlessly” with the single alignment line.  The Flip Face #5 has classic Odyssey aesthetics, with one notable addition; it has a big hole in it.

When you look at the Flip Face #5 from address, you cannot miss the fact that there is a relatively large hole behind the face.  This is not a thin sound slot some manufacturers cut behind the face.  This is a big empty space.  You will see the grass through the putter when you address the ball.  Is this distracting?  Maybe a bit.  Will it bother you?  Possibly, but maybe not for long.  I was definitely aware of the hole when I started testing the Flip Face, but after a time, my brain just merged the hole in with the rest of the putter and it became a non-issue.  Why is the hole there?  To provide space for the face to flip, of course!

SET-UP & ALIGNMENT

The Flip Face #5 sets up to the ball like the other traditional Odyssey mallets.  There is a single line on the flange of the putter for aiming, common among this type of putter.  What I did notice though is that the hole in the putter also can be used as an aiming tool.  I used the rectangular hole in combination with the line to make a “T” shaped aiming tool.  As one who sometimes struggles using a single line to aim, the combination of hole and line proved very effective.  It may sound a bit odd, but if you spend a little time just looking at the Flip Face #5 from address, you will likely have a bit of an “ah ha” moment and from then on, aiming should be easy.

PERFORMANCE

“Do I need a putter that can flip inserts?”  Although this is the main question of the review, I thought it was appropriate to save it until the performance section of the review.  To me, this is where the question should be answered.  Flipping the face is not about looks; it’s about having more options on the course and improving scores.

Before we address the face performance though, there are some general points about putting with the Flip Face #5 that are worth mentioning:

  • Once I became comfortable with the alignment characteristics of the putter, it was very easy to roll the ball along the target line.
  • The head feels very balanced through the stroke, as one would expect from a face-balanced mallet.
  • The Lamkin 3GEN putter grip feels great.  It has a great texture and soft feel, even with a couple of extra wraps under the grip.

Finally, we get to my take on the Flip Face feature:

Pros

  • The mechanics of flipping the face is very easy, with the wrench being stored in the headcover. (Cool wrench/divot tool IMO)
  • The construction is outstanding.  I did not feel like I could accidentally break anything while flipping the face.
  • You can have the versatility of the two inserts, but only need to own one putter.
  • You can change the insert to deal with different green conditions.
  • Using one putter should help you develop a consistent stroke that will remain consistent even when you flip inserts.
  • Flipping the face is very easy and can be quickly accomplished before a round. (Not during.  That’s cheatin’)

Cons

  • It may be difficult to know which insert is best for a given course, leading to putting indecision.
  • Practice becomes complicated (Which insert should I use on this green? How long should I practice with each insert? & etc.)
  • Golfers may prefer the feel of one insert to the other.
  • It may be more effective to learn to putt at various green speeds with one insert than learning how and when to switch between the two.
  • A poor day putting now can be blamed on using the wrong insert.

I enjoyed using the Flip Face #5 on the course, but for me, the ability to flip the face between the Metal-X insert and the White Ice insert was not one that I found myself taking advantage of very often.  My preference for the feel of the Metal-X and my putting performance with that insert caused me to keep that insert in the majority of the time that I used the putter.  On rounds where I played with the White Ice insert in place, I typically wanted to switch to the Metal-X after a few holes.  That’s not allowed, by the way.  No changing during the round.

Although it is not really a performance issue, there is one other thing about flipping the face that I must mention: THE SCREW.  While the screw is easy to engage and loosen, there is one huge word of caution to share with Flip Face owners, the screw will fall out when it is unscrewed.  If possible, it would be great to design a system where the screw remains attached.  To their credit the instruction manual does warn that the screw can fall out.  I kept this in mind, but I still had the screw fall out while shooting photos of the putter.  Many of us have uttered “colorful language” while using our putters.  However, I may be the first golfer to speak such off-color language while spending 25 minutes looking for a part of a putter that had seemingly vanished in the grass.  Be careful where you flip…

Performance Scoring

  • Distance Control = 9 (Metal-X) / 7 (White Ice)
  • Accuracy = 9
  • Sound & Feel = 9 (Metal-X) / 6.5 (White Ice)
  • Appearance = 8.5
  • Alignment = 9
  • OVERALL = 89 Metal-X / 80 White Ice  (Ave=84.5)

FIT FOR STROKE™

Don’t change your stroke. Change your putter.

The (FIT FOR STROKE™) concept was developed by PING, yet another genius fitting system they have developed for golfers.  It works hand-in-hand with the iPING Putter App that I highly suggest everyone getting (IT’S FREE!).  You might be surprised to find out that the stroke you think you have isn’t the stroke you actually have.

This addition to the MGS reviews will allow you to become a more consistent putter by matching you with models that better fit your stroke type.  They will be broken down into three categories: (1) Straight – for face balance putters  (2) Slight Arc – for mid toe hang putters  (3) Strong Arc – for toe down putters

“Results from hundreds of player and robot tests at PING offer overwhelming scientific support for the effectiveness of fitting for stroke. In recent years more diagnostic tools and testing equipment have become available, and the results prove that a golfer’s consistency improves when their putter balance matches their stroke type. It was interesting to observe that golfers putt more consistently with stroke-appropriate models, but they also show a personal preference for these models, too. Prior to putting with them, golfers are drawn to models that fit their eye, even before they fit their stroke.” says PING.

The Odyssey Flip Face #5 is a: Straight

OVERALL

Overall, I think that the Odyssey Flip Face #5 is an excellent putter, as reflected by the overall performance score.  However, I am not sold on the advantage of flipping the face.  I just don’t know if I would be better served practicing to putt on greens with various speeds with one putter, or by flipping the face to address the speed change that way with the same putter.  What if greens are slow on the front 9 and then faster on the back after they dry out a bit?  You could get stuck with the “fast” insert on fast greens.  If you haven’t practiced in this situation…

I think that the price of the Flip Face line also works against the putter.  Based upon the complexity and number of machined parts in the putter, the $349 price is not that off target if we look at the Flip Face in isolation.  However, I can’t overlook the fact that a White Ice #9 would run about $99 and a Metal-X #9 about $149.  That puts the Flip Face feature cost at about $100.  I am just not sure that the cost/benefit analysis of the Flip Face supports that premium.  Is it better to have two putters in one, or two putters plus a c-note in the pocket?

Maybe there is something that I am missing with regards to the versatility of the Odyssey Flip Face.

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      Scott

      12 years ago

      Love the idea, but im not sure how it will work. STX has it down by being able to switch the face out. I would definitely worry about buying this club just because i cant imagine it feeling solid like a normal putter but i want to be pleasantly surprised.

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      DogBreath

      12 years ago

      Would be nice to know the length of the putter reviewed. At 345 grams, it should be ~35″.

      I have found that adjustable lie angle is a really nice addition to a putter, but face material? Not so sure, especially at the price.

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      M.Tran

      12 years ago

      I love the look of that wrench/ball mark repair tool.

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      RADAR

      12 years ago

      Sirs the big question is can you change the putter face during play. Drivers can not be reconfigured (R11_R9 USGA)during play. Radar

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      AndrewK

      12 years ago

      Innovative is the word that comes to mind, but the price is what is the biggest ordeal. I have to agree with the patrons on the site that it could cause a lot of doubt among golfers when given a choice. I like the idea of the two faces and the options it brings. Would love to try this putter out, if I win one.

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      Narin

      12 years ago

      I honestly for the price they’re charging, it would be better to get two putters with different inserts. Even with that concept, I can’t see the merit of having two putters unless you play on vastly different surfaces throughout the season or have the tournament play of a D1 golfer. It shouldn’t make a difference to most golfers if they just get a putter that is custom fitted for them, one that has a texture they can use anywhere.

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      Seth

      12 years ago

      Interesting, very interesting.

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      SonnyP

      12 years ago

      I use a bettinardi bc6 on fast greens and an oddysey 2ball white steel on soft. This concept is something I may like to try.

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      Bob

      12 years ago

      Seems to me that having a choice of face just adds another level of complication in deciding how to putt on various greens. I prefer to try to use one putter that I am completely familiar with on various surfaces and learn what works for the course.

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      robmailman

      12 years ago

      save your money and have a custom shop build exactly what you want, if your are going to spend over 300 on a flat stick go the custom route, you’ll thank me later i promise, i have a custom slighter tacoma and after i got it my putts per round dropped big time so i sold all my other’s except one yes putter to keep for a spare. see you out there, rob.c

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      It is a great idea…………… too expensive……….. It is like one of my drivers, once I set it to how I use it I really don’t change it except on a rare occasion. I feel that the golf fitters/instructors should all have one to help them fit someone more properly. It is a very nice looking putter. I would most likely prefer the metal insert.

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      Neil

      12 years ago

      Nice putter. I’ve tried it and I prefer the Metal-X insert. It feels like the Nike Method, but the ball can be jumpy off the face.

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      curtis

      12 years ago

      oh really?!!!! are u kidding me?!!! odyssey flip face putter… hmmm? how nice!
      im surprised that… just never seen it.. what if that ball must be hop up over that cup? :) but, there is 2 ball.
      take it & hop it.. get it.. went it!!!! :) yay! pretty good! :)

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      Richard Heaps

      12 years ago

      I like the design of the putter, and the flexibility of not owning two sticks. But the price????

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      Mike flanagan

      12 years ago

      Interesting idea to say the least. Tend to agree that price is entirely to much. Could go out and purchase 2 putters, maybe even 3 at that price. Would still give it a shot though, you never know it could solve all your putting issuses

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      Al

      12 years ago

      Worth a try…Golfers, like fisherman, will try anything once.

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      Sam

      12 years ago

      I think the flip face is a great idea as i normally prefer stiffer face putters but im experienced with the white ice putters as well (i own an odyssey tri-ball) and thats a pretty good putter too.

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      Bruce

      12 years ago

      John Berry having the choice wont make a sceric of difference on course as its against the rules of golf to adjust any club on course doesn’t matter if it rains, hails or shines.
      To me it just complicates an easy choice of club

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      Scott

      12 years ago

      Can’t wait to try it!

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      luke

      12 years ago

      I was rolling a white hot tour #5 really well in the store the other day even thought the #9 more fits my stroke, I like the #5 almost as much. I have also been wanting to try a flip face putter (esp because I like the metal X which isn’t available in a #5) and just think it would be a cool idea to try out. However, there is no way I can afford one. Wouldn’t a giveaway be a great way to try one!

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      Jim

      12 years ago

      Interesting as it may be, but this could save you lots of money on new putter(s). But it’s still not going to be a hit for me. I would use this putter to find the right putter for someone that wants a new putter, or a new beginner.
      Thanks for the review.

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      Roy Winfield

      12 years ago

      I am a great fan of Odyssey and have three of their putters already and I can’t imagine them making a bad one. In my view a putter is a very personal choice and getting used to the feel of the club and developing ones skills with it is part of the enjoyment of golf. Having owned a number of adjustable drivers in the past I question the wisdom of developing an adjustable putter. I am sure that after a little experimenting with the club the average golfer will settle on a setting and will not change it for evermore. Nevertheless I am intrigued by the concept and may consider adding one to my ever growing collection of instruments of torture.

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      Harold Williams

      12 years ago

      What a great idea.I have tried weighted putters before without success,looking forward to trying the flip idea.

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      David Carey

      12 years ago

      I love new equipment and would be very interested to tinker around with and try this new idea!

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      Matt

      12 years ago

      This is an interesting concept for a putter. Where most people would prefer a crisp firm feel in the metal x, it could be a nice change to switch to the softer insert. I believe that if you are a good enough player to understand green speed, differences of grass (bermuda, bent, etc.), and grain it might be nice to be able to switch inserts. I know that if I was playing on smooth fast bent greens I would want a softer face, but if I was on grainy bermuda and I needed to get the ball rolling fast I would choose the metal x. In conclusion I love the idea of the putter and it would be a nice addition to my bag.

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      Barrett

      12 years ago

      Interesting. Your feel changes every day/week/month so I think this would be helful

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      tscdave

      12 years ago

      Well, the price is pretty high, but for me the advantage would be to use the metal firm head during the longer grass, slower putting seasons (Florida, new rye), and the soft face when playing championship courses or faster greens (dry conditions).

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      Paul Nix

      12 years ago

      Sounds interesting….I have been playing Odyssey Dual Force 330 Mallet for a long time and have been thinking about upgrading. Would like to try this if I can find one.

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      darren

      12 years ago

      have to say i much prefer metal-x to white ice in their single face putters, so most likely to keep it fixed on metal-x, but would love to see how much i’d actually use the feature as course green conditions vary.

      btw, unless it’s an ad – which should probably be more clearly called out – you should remove the ping fit for stroke section in the midst of this odyssey review

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      Bill Ledbetter

      12 years ago

      Although I think this is probably a neat feature, I’m pretty sure most of the folks I play golf with wouldn’t spend the money for it. I find that plenty of times the putting green and on course greens don’t putt alike rendering this feature useless. I like the looks but just can’t justify the price.

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      Drew Schaefer

      12 years ago

      Must say, it is a cool concept that seems like could/will evolve over time. I however do not think it will catch on too quickly. Golfers are so in love with their putters, I know I would have a hard time giving up mine to go to another (not saying I wouldn’t take a free one though!! haha). I give them big ups for ingenuity and creativity and hope they evolve their product more.

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      Bryan

      12 years ago

      Interesting concept – would love to give one a try.

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      Justin Sipes

      12 years ago

      Seems to me like it would be good if you were not sure which insert you want or maybe if you play courses with inconsistent green speeds a lot. But why wouldnt you just buy two putters for $100 less. When you show up to the practice green just see how they are rollin and put the one you dont want to use back in the truck. Problem solved. I just dont really understand all these companies startin to charge 3 or 4 hundres dollars for a putter. I went to goodwill last week and bought a putter for $5 that i like way better than my $110 cleveland i got at home. Putters are gettin rediculous these days

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      Matt

      12 years ago

      Very cool idea, what’s the ruling on swapping faces during a round?

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      R. P. Jacobs II

      12 years ago

      Matt, I don’t have the exact rule number, though altering ANY club after you have started the round is illegal…You gotta play what ya brought…Fairways & Greens 4ever….

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      Putterslut

      12 years ago

      Interesting concept: 2 putters in one. The $350 price also seems to be 2 for 1 in MHO.

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      Mike

      12 years ago

      I’ll stick with my Yes, Callie. Putters like women shouldn’t be two faced.

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      Brian

      12 years ago

      The concept sounds interesting. Like the writer, don’t know if I would favor one over the other.

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      Jim

      12 years ago

      I do not think anything out performs my Rocker Cash-in Putter

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      Damon

      12 years ago

      I’ve hit the different Odyssey putter inserts, and like the Metal X and dislike the softer insert. So for me, I would just buy a Metal X and be done with it. However, I must say that they engineered an elegant solution to quickly/easily changing the face.

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      Garrett

      12 years ago

      Sounds like a good concept since I have 2 putters that I switch between depending on the course I play

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      Nick

      12 years ago

      I don’t know what to think. Can’t say I am interested in buyin it but will at least give it a try at the store to see.

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      R. P. Jacobs II

      12 years ago

      Dave, excellent review…Nice concept, though I agree with your reply above regarding the retail cost of the Flip Face vs. purchasing two individual putters with the appropriate inserts…That would be my preferred choice…$350 is pretty thin air & when you look @ what $350 will buy in premium milled putters, I just would choose other putters over this one..I don’t recall seeing it in the review, however, is either insert milled?…I know that I have the ProType PT82 Limited Edition in my rotation, and it has a milled White Ice insert…$350 for a non-milled face(s)?…I don’t think so…Anyway, very nice review…Fairways & Greens 4ever….

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      Rich B.

      12 years ago

      I’ve been using a White Steel for over eight years now, but sometimes I throw my Ram Zebra (urethane insert) in the bag now and again. Since I travel/fly with my set, the FF option would allow me to take only one club instead of two!

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      Shao Huang

      12 years ago

      Way too expensive a putter to risk hating both.

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      R. P. Jacobs II

      12 years ago

      Classic!…Best one-line comment I’ve read in quite a while…LOL….Fairways & Greens 4ever….

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      stevenhw8

      12 years ago

      Except that my putters are all under $100 a piece, so still cheaper to buy 2 putters with different insert!

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      Pim

      12 years ago

      Meh I think it’s best to just get a good putter and stick with it for 10+ years!

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      Golfer Ryan

      12 years ago

      Cool idea and brilliant execution by Odyssey. Only problem is I have a hard time understanding why one would need to change faces with the club that is the most personal and feel oriented. I developed a feel for my putter over the years or repetitive use and I am comfortable and confident with my putter.
      I think the flip face adds an unnecessary variable into the equation because it changes the feel of the putter. If it was possible to NOT change feel but make a difference based on the speed of the green so that I can keep the same stroke, that may be a winner. But as it is, I think personally it would be easier for me to calibrate my stroke at the practice green before the round than changing the face AND calibrating my stroke for the green speed.
      Kudos to Callaway and Odyssey for their daring innovation, it would be interesting to see how the masses receive this idea.

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      Brandon Kerr

      12 years ago

      Love this putter. Need this in my bag.

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      porky

      12 years ago

      Looks cool ! Unobstrusive yet efficient technology

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      Luke Johnson

      12 years ago

      I like Odyssey putters. I use a Marxman Backstryke. I am interested in the Metal X. I like the one Luke Donald used in BMW.

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      BD Ledbetter

      12 years ago

      Awesome, basically two putters for the price of one! I think the concept is great and after a little work, knowing which face to use shouldn’t be that hard.

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      DL

      12 years ago

      I tried it the other day in the golf store. I couldn’t hit a putt online. Then I noticed the face was not square, it was slightly angled which made me wonder if the putter face would loosen over time (people must have been trying to flip the face with out the changing tool)……

      I think its a novelty but a cool novelty.

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      Ken

      12 years ago

      I like Odyssey putters. And, honestly, I wasn’t sure what the relevance of this putter was outside of being a fitting tool inb the store (like the Metal-X side better, buy a Metal-X. Prefer White Ice, buy that.)

      But, then it dawned on me, we marry some clubs but date putters. I suppose this is like dating fraternal twins. They’re both cute, they both get the job done, but sometimes you want a redhead and sometimes a blonde. It’s up to you to decide which side it which.

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      Jason

      12 years ago

      Pretty darn good idea. 2 putters for the price of 1.

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      Jacques LeStrap

      12 years ago

      Let me start by saying, the comment,”a poor day putting now can be blamed on using the wrong insert” should really be put in the Pro’s section…not the Con section lol
      As far as what can be done for feel on a week to week,(or day to day for you moneybags out there) i’d have to say it’s an advantage. Instead of going to a few different choices for putters,(lets face it, if you only own one putter, you either just started playing, or you just sold all your old ones for cash to play more golf) one can stick to one comfortable grip and concentrate on the feel of hitting the golf ball for that day. I have done some experiments of my own, and so far, have not talked myself into buying a putter with an insert. As far as the choices this model offers, and the way you can quickly decide which face you prefer that day, is a winner in my book. Lastly, after reading the account of the trial player,(GolfSpy Dave) and seeing the putter, and it’s parts, i’d say we have passed by the gimmick stage, and moved on to a really cool tool.

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      Matt v

      12 years ago

      Love to see new equipment concepts on the course. The price is probably too high to be successful for an Odyssey putter. Still applaud them nonetheless.

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      David

      12 years ago

      Another question is how long will the screw hold up? If it’s even the slightest bit loose it will really mess up your putting.

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      Golfspy Dave

      12 years ago

      This I wouldn’t worry about. The quality on this putter is first rate and I think that it should last through many seasons.

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      David

      12 years ago

      In theory it sounds like a good idea. I play municipals, public, semi-private, and private courses. They green speeds can vary drastically and this might be the answer. I do have a question though. I use a Ping G20 so I have no options to change on my driver and I’ve never looked into the rules. Can you make a change to the driver during a round? If you can, why couldn’t you also do it with your putter? It’s technically the same club.

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      Alex

      12 years ago

      USGA Rules say that during a round you cannot adjust your driver. So the same would be for the putter. It must finish the round in the same setting you started with.

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      ninetails

      12 years ago

      I like the idea but the pricing makes it unlikely that I would get one. I would rather have 2 sets than this version.

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      Mike Zabroski

      12 years ago

      This is interesting too see and from what i read could solve a lot of problems for the golfer. It could make putting far more fun for the golfer that has trouble with speed. Nice to see all the new ideas out there.

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      Ron Garton

      12 years ago

      I have owned 2 Odyssey putters. My first one had the White Ice insert and my current has the MetalX which I prefer for the slower green speeds at my home course. It would be nice to be able to flip to the White Ice insert when playing faster greens that require a softer touch.

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      Anon

      12 years ago

      I just don’t see how the price point can be a glaring negative myself. I think that with this putter you get two of the best inserts on the planet. We’ll drop that kind of coin for a new driver yearly, which we might use 4-7 times per round, yet when it comes to a putter, which we use on every single hole, price becomes an obstacle.

      I think this Flip Face is fantastic. I mean, why not? We’ve seen that white sells, adjustability sells, so kudos to Odyssey for bringing this product to the market. Nice review!

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      Alex

      12 years ago

      I completely agree with you on the price point thing. But the everyday golfer LOVES the long ball and they are willing to drop more money on a driver that will make them hit it further. The golfing “masses” love the driver (just go to any driving range and see how many people are hitting driver over any other club in their bag, or even on the putting green). Adjustable drivers work because they capture the largest market in the golfing industry and they “fit your swing”. The “Masses” will not get the concept of a hotter faced insert over a soft insert. And in the long run it will do them better to buy this over a new driver.

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      Mike Stock

      12 years ago

      That looks like a great idea. I’m still using my Odyssey White Hot that I bought 6 years ago and I LOVE it. It would be nice to give a different model a try, putters being fickle mistresses!

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      Will Parsons

      12 years ago

      I’m a fan of Odyssey putters and have one with the White Ice insert. I’m sure if I had a flip face putter, I would leave it on one setting once I found the insert that felt best. My feel preference at impact is the very solid impact provided by a carbon steel putter. I haven’t putted with a metal-x insert, but I’m guessing it would be closer to the feel I prefer. But if you like a putter, I think you can adjust to whatever impact feel it provides.

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      Tony L

      12 years ago

      Pretty interesting and would love to try it out to compare to Scotty Camerons and Nike Methods!

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      Nic

      12 years ago

      Have to agree with the just buy two different putters concept. Makes more sense.
      BUT!! I love tinkering and I loved Transformers as a kid so I would totally consider this if the price point was lower. Just looks like fun to play with

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      Jesse H

      12 years ago

      Great idea trying to innovate the putter market which Odyssey is known for. As far a the small gap it wouldn’t bother me. it seems a lot less distracting than some of the putter models that appeared with the white hot XG line.

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      matthew elders

      12 years ago

      looks interesting, would be cool to try out both for a little while to see which one you liked better.

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      Vance

      12 years ago

      I think if the pricepoint were lower, this would be intruiging. But I see no benefit in having this over 2 separate putters.

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      Brother

      12 years ago

      Way too expensive for the gamble. I think the idea is cool, but I wouldn’t risk hating both for $350.

      I’d like to know how often people switch putters?

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      Nevin Wilson

      12 years ago

      It certainly is an interesting idea. If you play a number of different courses where the speed of the greens vary, I could see how this could be veyr useful. The price point seems high. – Nevin

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      MG

      12 years ago

      Pretty cool idea. Seems kind of silly now, but a lot of new technologies are like that at the beginning. I’d love to give it a rip.

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      Ben

      12 years ago

      I’ll give Callaway credit for trying something new, but this misses for me by a very wide margin. Cost alone makes this make no sense. Add in the fact that the Metal-X insert is just as horrible as the rest of Callaway’s inserts and you’ve just got lose / flip / lose for me here. I’m sure there’s a market in people that like odd stuff or gadgets, but it’s just not me. Now a flip face where one side is bare metal and the other is an insert… maybe.

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      FLV02

      12 years ago

      Very interesting idea. Like everyone said, with clubs being adjustable nowadays, it was bound to happen. Will it be successful? I don’t know. For $349, I think it is a little pricey for this putter. For the people who do get it, I am curious to see how many times they switch the faces. I have a Tiger Shark GreenSpeed VS-5, which has an adjustable weight system. I changed weights on the practice green when I first got it, and I haven’t changed it since. I love the feel of the weight it has now. This whole review just makes me curious about its future in the market.

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      Golfspy Dave

      12 years ago

      “…curious about its future in the market.”
      That’s exactly how I feel. I can say without reservation that it is one of the most precisely machined putters that I have ever used. Outstanding quality. I think that flipping the face is a novel approach to giving the golfer a choice when courses they play sport different green conditions. I just wonder if cost of making this putter and the resulting retail cost will overshadow the benefit of flipping.

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      Daniel

      12 years ago

      I am one of those people that is constantly switching putters. I borrow or buy a new putter it seems like every week to try and match whatever feel i have for a given day. This idea seems very intriguing especially for playing on a course that can vary significantly in speed from morning to afternoon. Color me curious.

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      wdgolf

      12 years ago

      “A poor day putting now can be blamed on using the wrong insert.”

      This seems like a “Pro” not a “Con” to me! After all, it’s always the putter’s fault.

      “However, I can’t overlook the fact that a White Ice #9 would run about $99 and a Metal-X #9 about $149. That puts the Flip Face feature cost at about $100”

      This is the very first thing I thought about when I started reading this. Had this putter run $149, then it’s a good deal, but I’d rather just buy two separate putters. The hole does bug me a bit and like all other adjustable clubs, I’m willing to be 90% of people put it in one position and never adjust it again…

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      Tyler Mossey

      12 years ago

      I already don’t know how to putt with one putter how in the heck am I going to figure out how to putt with two?

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      Eric Hutchens

      12 years ago

      Looks like a really cool concept. 2 putters in 1. Flipping Great!!!!!

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      Jeff

      12 years ago

      Interesting concept and I must applaud the execution of design and practical use of the “flip-face”. However, I think this leaves more room for golfer doubt. Once you have left the first tee and have decided on which face to go with, if conditions change you better be comfortable with both face models. In my mind this would require you to practice with both face models equally in order to be confident in either decision you make. If not, your better off purchasing the face model you do like and keep the “C” note

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      stevenhw8

      12 years ago

      My boss invited me to play at his home course last weekend.
      Played 18 holes on Saturday and 18 holes on Sunday.
      The difference in speed on the same greens were abysmal from one day to the other.

      Saturday I had perfect control of the greens with my TaylorMade TM-210. Sunday I was blowing all the putts 4 ft. beyond the hole. My wife played both days as well and she games an Odyssey White Hot XG with the soft white insert.

      On Sunday evening, she told me the was short on a lot of putts on Saturday, but on Sunday her distance was spot on.

      Honestly, her putter is too soft for my liking, I prefer the “crisp” feel of hard inserts and milled faces, but I can’t help to think that with the same tempo and stroke, a softer insert might have saved my round on Sunday.

      The theoretical background and idea is pretty good. If you can adjust drivers, why not adjust putters too? Not sure how practical will it turn out on the course. Like the cons mentioned in the review…
      When are you supposed to flip the face? (of course, not during the round)
      After the practice green?
      After a disastrous first round?
      Before leaving home?
      What if the practice green and the greens on the course have different speeds?
      Which insert should you use to practice?
      And so on…

      For people with adjustable drivers, do you ever tinker with it AFTER you’ve found the perfect setting? Sure, changing faces is a more simple task and less room for error compared to loft, club face angle, etc. But will people become too lazy to tinker once they find the insert they like?

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      Dustin

      12 years ago

      I’d love to give this one a try. I’m very interested to see if the technology on the Metal-X insert lives up to the advertising hype.

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      John Barry

      12 years ago

      Very interesting concept that was bound to happen. I must say, I am interested in it, and the ability to make on course adjustments because of rain, weather, or changing conditions. Innovation is still good.

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      Bruce Agger

      12 years ago

      Yeah, if you’re into not following the rules of golf

      Reply

      Peter

      12 years ago

      Wow – been waiting for this one

      Reply

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