Can PING Improve on the G30?

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After roughly a year and a half, PING is replacing the G30 driver.

Are they out of their damned minds?

G30 was a huge hit it retail - it spent most of 2015 as the best selling driver in golf. And while it also received plenty of awards and accolades, what PING's R&D team both appreciates, and takes great pride in, is the gratitude expressed by golfers for how well they're playing because of the G30.

If success can be measured in happy golfers, G30 was arguably a once in a decade..maybe a once in a generation kind of club.

So when PING told us that they planned to replace the G Driver early in 2016, my initial questions was this:

Why the hell would you do that?

PING G Driver-104-2

The Reality Check

As with nearly everyone else in golf, the truth in the answer lies somewhere in the need to compete. In today's market, 1.5 years is practically an eternity, and with some of its competitors nearly double-digits deep in the number of drivers released since G30 column, arguably PING had to roll out a new driver.

That said, the G Driver isn't one of those because the other guys have a new driver kind of releases. PING speaks a unique language within the industry. It talks of performance over features. That's not to say PING makes featureless drivers, but in contrast to a good bit of the rest of the industry, PING only adds a feature when said feature has a measurable impact on performance for a majority of golfers.

So while it's not necessarily a story that PING (or anyone else) has a new driver, what's worth talking about is that PING's G Driver is anything but your standard fare 2nd generation model. The gains PING realized in evolving from G25 to G30 were again realized in the evolution from G30 to G Driver. What G30 was to G25, G Driver is now to G30.

If you're the rest of the golf equipment industry, that's not just impressive, it's scary.

Inspired by Nature

Chapter one of this story starts the same way as nearly every other new driver. Prepared to have your mind blown because I'm about to talk about weight savings.

Stay with me guys. This stuff actually matters.


The bulk of PING's newfound weight savings come from what the company calls the G Driver's Dragonfly Crown. The origins for the updated design lie in a photo of a dragonfly sent to the R&D team by PING Chairman & CEO John A. Solheim. Inspired by a dragonfly's wings, the Dragonfly crown, which PING likens to an exoskeleton, is made up of a system of ribs and supporting structures that effectively allowed ping to thin its crown to .43mm. For reference, that's the thickness of 3 sheets of paper.

While this bit of biomimicry is new to PING, it should be noted that TaylorMade (thick-thin crown), Cobra (Cell Technology), and others use similar structures in their crowns.


Why do they do it?

These type of structures still offer exceptional stability (durability), while at the same time offering a tremendous reduction in weight. In this particular case, PING was able to save 8 grams of crown weight compared to the G30. For a company already playing hardball in the low/back CG space, 8 grams is an almost obscene number, especially when you hear what PING did with it.

Low and Back CG


If you've followed along with us at all, you're already aware that PING is producing the highest MOI (most forgiving drivers) within the mass market industry and it's doing it while its center of gravity locations relatively low (lower than a substantial percentage of the industry). In the real world this translates to high launch, manageable spin, and best of breed forgiveness.

With the extra 8 grams saved in the G driver' crown, PING was able to lower the center of gravity by 1.27mm while pushing it 1.8mm deeper (towards the back). These may sound like little numbers, but they represent a fairly substantial jump over a single generation.

We'll try and get this on our CG Chart in the coming weeks, but what PING is telling us is that the G Driver's center of gravity sits a mere 1.3mm off the neutral axis, while the CG of the LS Tec is less than .5mm off the neutral axis.


In addition to improved energy transfer, PING realized a net improvement of 1% in heel/toe MOI, and 6% top/bottom MOI.

While top to bottom MOI isn't generally discussed with the same fervor as heel toe MOI, it, along with material properties, and bulge and roll, is critical for maintaining consistent spin across the whole of the face. PING's Marty Jertson calls it Spinsistency, and what it does is allow fitters to fit golfers closer to their minimum spin threshold without fear of producing too low spin (unpredictable flight) on high toe shots.

In summary, with the G Driver, PING has made significant mass properties improvements to what was already an outstanding driver. Nothing else using all-titanium construction is even close.

Aerodynamics & The USGA


With the success of PING's G30 and the recent announcement of Callaway's XR 3016 (did you hear Callaway worked with Boeing on that one?), aerodynamics have moved to the front of the performance discussion.

What I love about aerodynamic improvements is that they serve as the definitive argument against those who say that the USGA's limits make it impossible to make a driver that generates more distance than any other.

Let's be clear about this. The USGA's test is completely static. There is absolutely nothing they do that considers aerodynamic properties or any other dynamic force that allows the golfer to swing the club faster. So even if you don't buy that off-center performance not only differs (it does), or that it matters (it does), you can't reasonably pretend for half-a-second that the USGA gives any consideration to aerodynamics. They don't...not even a little.


If you can swing the club faster (which the USGA doesn't regulate), you will generate more ball speed, and ultimately more distance, and every bit of those aerodynamically-driven performance gains happens within the confines of the USGA's .830 box.

What I don't love about aerodynamics is that whatever improvements are achieved are disproportional to higher swing speed players. Thank the physics guys, or I suppose the universe, for that. Since speed benefits are proportional to Velocity2, guys who already swing the club faster get more extra clubhead speed.

You get a little bit, Bubba gets a little more.

Damn you, math. Damn you.

With the G Driver PING has three distinct aerodynamic familiar, two new, for 2016.

Turbulators 1.1


You're probably already familiar with the G30's Turbulators. For the G Driver, PING re-examined its Turbulators. While the company didn't phone a friend (Airbus maybe...) it did take a second (actually it's probably like a 37th) look at the size, height, and angle of the G-Series most distinctive feature. In what I suppose qualifies as a good news/bad news scenario, PING's additional research found that its Turbulators were already fairly well optimized.

An ever-so-slight change has been made to the angle at which the Turbulators sit, but otherwise the design is unchanged from the G30.

Clean & Smooth (Eye of the Beholder)


Next PING did a bit of reshaping. It smoothed the transition between the face and crown; making it less blunt. It raised crown up a bit near the leading edge, providing a bit more contour to help further reduce drag. The refined shaping gives the G Driver a more rounded, and arguably more traditional (Turbulators not withstanding) shape at address compared to the G30.

It should appeal more to traditionalists...again, Turbulators and Dragonfly crown not withstanding.


PING G Driver-108-2

The most noticeable visual distinction between the G30 and the G Driver is most certainly the latter's addition of what PING calls Vortec technology. As with a good bit of what's in this story, the inspiration for Vortec came from an unusual place.

Consider a tractor trailer. It's a huge and blunt box on wheels that comes to a most unceremonious and abrupt ending. It's box and then nothingness. From an aerodynamic perspective it's a terribly inefficient design that results in a significant amount of vortex shedding - basically turbulent airflow swirling around at the end of trailer.

For a semi the vortex shredding increases the net drag force, ultimately resulting in decreased fuel mileage, while also creating a measurable amount of instability or wobble for the truck.

Inman TrailerTail

To smooth the airflow off the back, cargo trailers are now being outfitted with what's called trailer tails. I can't believe it's a real thing either (trailer tails, I mean. I'm good with Vortex Shedding). PING wondered if the trailer tail concept could be applied to the trailing edge of the driver.

After some initial computer simulations and player testing, PING decided it could. The design was finalized and the soon to be famous (among PING fans anyway) VORTEC technology was born. The Vortec Cavity - a hole, or dent of sorts, in the trailing edge of the driver -  works in conjunction with Turbulators to help eliminate wake.

Instead of shedding vortices, the G Driver's Vortec cavity, shreds them.


PING's in-house player testing found that the addition of a Vortec cavity improved dispersion area (more consistent shot patterns). While it's a bit more difficult to quantify, there is some indication that the Vortec cavity provides a dynamic reduction in the oscillation of the clubhead through the downswing, which some players report as more stability and the feeling of more speed through the downswing.

Your actual mileage may vary on that one.

Better than G30?

PING G Driver-100-3

The full impact of the improvements to the G Driver can only be born out (or not born out) through head to head testing, but the numbers themselves are compelling. Compared to the G30, the G driver provides a 37% reduction in drag when the face is in the square position (as we'd like it to be at impact), and an 11% reduction during the downswing.

All of that aerodynamic blah blah blah manifests itself as .7 to 1 MPH increase in clubhead speed for guys in the 90-100MPH range. As we've said, faster swings will see a bit more, slower swingers, a bit less.

Absolutely worth a mention, this is almost exactly the same increase PING realized in moving from the G25 to the G30.

"For us to get any gain in clubhead speed and still have CG and intertia gain, we would be high-fiving. To see the same jump we got from G25 to G30, we were very excited". - Marty Jertson, Director of Product Development, PING

Keep in mind, these are average numbers. Each of us has our own unique swing DNA...positions, release, etc.. All of that impacts the real-world aerodynamics of the club, which is why 2 guys with the exact same swing speed can achieve very different results.

Orders of Magnitude

PING G Driver-105-2

You might (barely) recall that when G30 launched we shared with you that, in order to get the same aerodynamic benefits as the G30, (assuming all other design features remain unchanged) the G25 would have to be scaled down to 362cc.

There's a huge MOI hit that comes with that.

Now consider, again using the G25 as our basis for comparison; to achieve the same aerodynamic advantages as the G driver, the G25 would need to be reduced to 197cc.

Effectively G driver gives you the speed of a small head with the performance (MOI) of a bigger one...and then some.

3 Models


As with the G30, the G Driver will be available in a Standard model, along with LS Tec (Low Spin), and SF Tec (Straight Flight) variants.

  • The Standard G Driver is available in 9° and 10.5° with a stock swingweight of D3.
  • The LS Tec, which  has a lower and more forward center of gravity (lower spin) is also available in 9° and 10.5° with a stock swingweight of D4.
  • The SF Tec, an extension of the K Series, is draw-weighted for slice correction. It's available in 10.5° and 12° with a stock swingweight of D1

All models are loft adjustable (+/- .6° or 1°).

Stock shaft offerings include the high balance point PING Alta 55 (45.75" - SR, R, S, X) and the PING Tour (45.25" - 65 & 80g, R, S, X) for $30 up-charge.

A New Headcover


Finally, PING has joined the fancy headcover craze, but they've taking it a step further by adding patent pending loops that make it a bit easier to pull the cover over the driver. It's a small thing, but it's definitely cool.

Specs, Pricing and Avaialability


MSRP for the G Driver is $435. Retail availability begins 2/11, but golfers can get fit and demo the product before that at authorized PING fitting accounts.

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Michael May 22, 2016 at 8:09 pm

I have been a habitual driver swapper thinking that new driver will make the difference, 3 years ago I bought a Callaway XHot and had an Aldila Trinity shaft put in it. Whilst the driver never lived up to extra distance, it was quite accurate.
On the weekend I needed to use a driver from the pro shop as id left my driver at the range.
The Ping G SF Tec 12d was available, I can honestly say I hit the ball 20 mtrs further than my XHot, reaching parts of the fairway off the tee that I never reach and outdriving my partners who always out drive me.
Played again on Sunday and had the same experience, this is an excellent driver, long and forgiving.
I will now purchase one


bob mcdonald March 24, 2016 at 1:26 am

the bullshit gets worse! I’m a 55 year PGA member and a golfer for 68 years. if we believe all this crap that we’ve been reading in magazines etc since then, and the gains were a mere few yards, then the ball would be flying at least 600 yards plus by now. the claims are outrageous. why is the average golfer WORSE than 50 years ago.



Tony Covey March 24, 2016 at 8:32 am

Your statement is factually inaccurate. Golf Digest did the research. Handicaps are actually trending downward. Golfers are getting better, not worse.


Graham Sit Dodd January 14, 2016 at 7:33 am

I hit my g30 already to far..not sure I’d be able to stay on the course with this.


Graham Sit Dodd January 14, 2016 at 10:21 am

Oooo yeeaahhh


Bob Siga January 14, 2016 at 6:42 am

The M2 will out sell it


Jon Bonsky January 14, 2016 at 2:11 am

When will people learn. That shaft is what makes the club.


james March 11, 2016 at 4:32 pm

wrong af


Wesley Showmaninthesun Reed January 13, 2016 at 3:00 pm

If I had a dog that ugly I would shave it’s ass and teach it to walk backwards


David January 13, 2016 at 8:09 am

I loved the g30 lstec but sold it based on how tinny it felt and sounded..if the g sounds feels better than I would buy it


James March 11, 2016 at 4:38 pm

thats a ridiculous reason to sell a driver you “love”


Kevin Michaels January 13, 2016 at 10:25 am

Bubba is hitting it 600 yards with the new driver.


Jason Dearth January 13, 2016 at 5:05 am

The head is too distracting, I’ll be sticking with my Titleist 915


Patrick Thomas January 12, 2016 at 10:30 pm

As an actual professional, it appears most people don’t realize what the difference a few inches and a few yards can make in the game of golf. Every advantage makes a difference. It can make a lot of difference in your paycheck.


Oisin Devereux January 12, 2016 at 7:11 pm

Hahhahah muppet


Brian A. Cooley January 12, 2016 at 6:52 pm

I’ll keep my G30 LS Tec


Rob Ferrie January 12, 2016 at 6:36 pm

I can’t understand a word of this article – but I’d still buy the club!


Alex Birchall January 12, 2016 at 6:32 pm

Sorry but cobra still the best drivers out there and the flyz+ is the best on the market right now


Chris January 19, 2016 at 3:25 pm

I just traded in my Cobra Fly-Z + yesterday for the new Ping G. I liked the Cobra A LOT, especially after my (awful) Jet Speed, and it also performed better for me in the bay at Golfsmith than the Ping G-30. But yesterday on the course during a round I tried a friend’s G-25. It felt MUCH better, gave me another 10 yards, and it also seemed to be more accurate. So I went back to Golfsmith and tried the Ping G, which – of course – was wonderful. So now I am waiting until Feb 11th for my new driver. Then again, it might just be me. My swing speed is 95 so I had the weight set back in the Fly Z +.


Tim Jenkins January 12, 2016 at 6:29 pm

Looking good . From Ping you know it’s quality and does perform.


William January 12, 2016 at 9:32 am

Tony, I thought Cobra LTD has set the new standard for neutral axis cg and low spin. Based off your graphs in the Cobra LTD review. Hasn’t Cobra taken the Crown from PING?


Tony Covey January 12, 2016 at 10:30 am

With respect to the neutral axis, Cobra’s KING LTD Pro should be the lowest CG on the market. Officially the CG is on the neutral axis (allowing for tolerances and different measurement techniques), but unofficially, some heads have been measured with CG actually below the neutral axis. This is great for guys who hit face center, or slightly below. I call it happy gearing. You also must remember that as CG goes down, launch increases, so comparative spin will go up as well. It’s a balancing act.

For higher spin guys, a KING LTD Pro might work, but for many, the more forward F6+ could prove to be the better option.

The standard G Driver is well above that, while the LS Tec is reportedly around .5mm above neutral (we haven’t measured yet, so we can’t validate that claim), but it should also be noted that PING isn’t necessarily trying to hit a specific mm target. Everything is relative, and we’re confident it’s lower than G30.

That said, PING continues to lead the industry from an MOI perspective, so golfers making the choice between say a KING LTD or a G Driver will need to balance the benefits of lower, slightly more forward CG, against the MOI benefits of the G.

And with ALL of that said, If I were to draw a circle on a CG chart and say ‘this this where most golfers should look for their next driver’, that circle would include Cobra’s KING (including F6), and PING’s G family, and not much else.

For guys who really need to trim spin (and that will come at the expense of MOI), then we have a more forwardly placed circle that includes things like F6+, M1 (particularly 430), JPX-850, and probably BBDBD.

I could keep drawing circles to include models that fit different types of golfer. To understand which circle you fit in, you really need to understand your individual launch characteristics, your approach to the ball (angle of attack), and your average impact location.


William January 12, 2016 at 9:13 pm

Thanks Tony,
Love the info that you provide. I read all of your reviews and make many of my decisions based on much of your info. I ended up with a Cobra LTD non pro version with the stock Rogue shaft, but in 70 gram, basically the one they put in the 3 wood. The slightly heavier weight and lower torque helps me with my tempo and my common miss. I replaced a Titleist 915 that I never could fall in love with. Still have my 910 though. She’s my backup now.

Thanks again,


Randy Poss January 12, 2016 at 2:23 pm

bubba just mashes the ball probably dont matter what driver he hits with but we will never know


Kevin McCloud January 12, 2016 at 6:40 am

Same Club as the G30, the Iron is the same as the Gmax, they maxed out what they can do, hence max, decided this year to just call it G again, it amazes me how people every year fall for this crap.


Dan Martinez January 12, 2016 at 3:19 pm

It amazes me how people can criticize and complain about a product without ever seeing it or trying it in person. 🙄


Kyle Sublett January 13, 2016 at 4:19 pm

It amazes me people argue about stuff on the Internet


Kevin McCloud January 13, 2016 at 6:12 pm

It amazes me that u say that, cause where else I gonna argue? And second people don’t need to try it to know what it is, it’s like all the Ping anser knockoffs, Cameron, Piretti, Etc. it might be better made and have a couple bells and whistles added, but it’s still an Anser design Knockoff.


Kyle Sublett January 13, 2016 at 8:03 pm

It amazes me that I’m on your side of this Kevin Lol


Dan Martinez January 13, 2016 at 11:07 pm

Yes those “bells and whistles” mean absolutely nothing and the original anser is absolute perfection. Give me a break calling current clubs just knock offs.


Kevin McCloud January 14, 2016 at 4:05 am

Ur agreeing with my point and then not agreeing, which way do I go,idk, I’ll Iam saying is the current lineup is really no different and I doubt it will perform all that differently then there last lineup, irons tech can only go so far, and it’s maxed out.


Mike Ensoll January 12, 2016 at 4:56 am

No doubt about it!


Christiaan Clendenin January 12, 2016 at 4:52 am

Sex on a stick. Goosebumps.


Eric Law January 11, 2016 at 6:09 pm

Does the G driver use the shame hosel adapter sleeve as the G30?


Gil Bloomer January 11, 2016 at 9:53 pm

I need one please. I went to the Ping site and was fit to the G based on my personal info. Now I need to hit Powerball to buy one.


Buck Mayers January 11, 2016 at 9:02 pm

If you are using a Good radar machine and powder on face or 3 D to see where on face you hit, the numbers will be comparable.. However, the newer version will be better on misses!!! But if you never miss hit, use your old one!⛳️


Markus Viljanen January 11, 2016 at 7:01 pm

Juuust not sure should I repalce my G30 with this since GolfWRX testing show almost identical numbers between G-series and G30.


MyGolf Spy January 11, 2016 at 7:36 pm

Let’s not start calling one tester at a facility not run by the company testing the driver a test. That’s just whacking some balls around.


Markus Viljanen January 11, 2016 at 7:44 pm

They did call it a review 😉 Do you guys have a review coming? Still don’t know what is the standard shaft with this driver.. A 55gram counterbalance shaft does sound pretty good if it’s a good fit with the head.


Simon Marc January 11, 2016 at 9:03 pm

Mygolfspy, difference in performance will be minimal for the average golfer. Shaft offerings also make next to no difference for average golfers as well (except that they seem to make people think that they are touring pros). I will be sticking with the G30 thanks.


Markus Viljanen January 11, 2016 at 10:10 pm

Seems like Simon has not been to a certified fitter :)


Simon Marc January 12, 2016 at 8:11 am

Like the shaft makes any difference Markus. Loft and cg placements are what changes ball flights and performance.


Jim Carter January 12, 2016 at 4:31 pm

Simon Marc, the shaft is as important if not more important than the head itself


Lee Huff January 12, 2016 at 7:51 pm

The shaft is the NUMBER ONE FACTOR in ball flight and performance. All heads since around early 2000 have pretty much the same face. Spin is dictated not only by where the weight is placed in a head, but by the shaft itself. In fact shaft is the number one issue as to why 95% of amateurs lose distance on their driver.

Also most amateurs who shoot 85 and above should be playing a higher lofted driver in the 11-12 degree range. Most players who hit the ball really high and lose distance don’t need a lower lofted driver, they need a higher loft. Modern drivers are made to hit at the mid line or higher on the face for maximum distance and forgiveness. If you’re hitting lower on the face you INCREASE spin and cause the ball to balloon, and lose distance. Lowering the loft increases the need to hit higher on the face to achieve distance.


James March 11, 2016 at 4:46 pm

WOW, Lee Huff…you have literally drank every ounce of kool aid the Taylormade marketing machine has ever made. Go watch mark crossfields videos on youtube, or even the tests on this very webite. shaft almost plays NO significant role at all. its ultra fine tuning. and more about feel than actual performance


Lee Huff January 12, 2016 at 7:52 pm

Sweet spot vs. hot spot.


Markus Viljanen January 12, 2016 at 8:08 pm

Simon, I have a 70gr Diamana whiteboard on my G30, I can tell you the numbers and the feel is completely different then the Ping Tour 65 and the TFC419D that comes as standard on the driver.


Chris Whitley January 13, 2016 at 2:20 pm

It’s all nonsense I play with a old titleist 975 L.fe cost me about 30 quid and I have Hut all the new drivers and guess what there’s no difference in distance,technology came as far it would go a good 10 year ago,everything else now is just marketing to make money,unless your a tour pro the “changes” that come out now means nothing the only things that have really improved in the last 10 year is shafts


Simon Marc January 14, 2016 at 12:18 am

Lee, you just explained why loft and cg placement matters far more than shaft. Markus, shaftoids just don’t seem to get it. If you want to lower spin, you put the CG forward. You don’t change shaft! No shaft is going to get you from a standard G30 ball flight to a G30 LS Tec ball flight and spin numbers!


Lee Huff January 14, 2016 at 1:36 pm

Wrong shaft will promote improper release of the club head. If you have a shaft that creates more spin, the ball will balloon and lose distance. Also there are several charts/graphs/videos showing which shaft creates less spin and what launch profile they have. If a sweeper uses a high launch shaft as opposed to a low launch shaft, they are going to lose distance. It’s really simple, and not as complicated as you are trying to make it.


John Elder January 11, 2016 at 1:35 pm

I’m not doubting for a minute Ping hasn’t found something but I, will wait for some information from your average and above average golfers on how they view this new G Driver before giving up my G30 but thanks for your input.


Regis January 11, 2016 at 12:52 pm

One thing that puzzles me about Ping is that their flagship driver always comes with a single stock shaft option According to their website the G comes with an Alta 55- the Tour 65 and 80 come with an upcharge(and it doesn’t indicate who makes these shafts). I understand that other manufacturers offer a lot of “made for” shafts as standard options but at least they offer options. Titleist offers two Aldila Rogue options and four MIsubishi Diamana shaft options at no upcharge. Taylormade M1 offers Fuji Pro, Misubishi Kuro Kage silver, and an Aldila Rogue Silver thereby offering different low mid and high launch shaft options. I believe that the great majority of golfers are never going to be convinced to be properly fit so to introduce a new club (aerodynamic changes notwithstanding) with a single stock shaft option just doesn’t resonate with me


Augustine Fan January 11, 2016 at 5:51 pm

For us recreational golfers, 250 to 275 total for a drive is sufficient to comfortably play most golf courses with mid length par 4s (400 to 430). For guys and pros that hit 300+ yards, getting a few more yards is meaningless as they are still going to be left with a short wedge for the approrach, but now they have to hit that same wedge shorter.


Hendrik Malan January 11, 2016 at 6:38 pm

You drive for the show, you putt for the dough….Gary Player!


Kurren Virk January 11, 2016 at 8:22 pm

Yeah I have this problem. I hit my driver 310-320, and never get to use my irons besides Par 3’s, and since I don’t practice much, it’s difficult to hit those finesse distances. The issue is I hit my driver straighter and more consistent than a FW or hybrid. Plus it’s fun to bomb it past everyone


Chris Whitley January 13, 2016 at 2:25 pm

Uh oh we’ve got another facebook long driving champ


Chris Whitley January 13, 2016 at 2:29 pm

Tour average is 265 btw


Ben Clabaugh January 14, 2016 at 7:22 am

265? Lmao. Maybe in 1997. It’s 288 now. Conditions, hot faces and balls that don’t spin are why everyone is 20 yards longer than yesteryear.


Dennis January 11, 2016 at 12:28 pm

Very innovative, but as the article suggests, if you don’t have the swing speed, the benefits will probably be marginal at best.


Ben Satterfield January 11, 2016 at 5:11 pm

To me, all drivers perform close enough in terms of distance.. It’s just a matter of what look and feel I prefer. And what brand I want to associate with.


Ben Satterfield January 11, 2016 at 5:12 pm

And I think the G looks very cool.


Markus Viljanen January 11, 2016 at 6:54 pm

So as all drivers give the same distance, forgiveness is key. And nobody does that better then Ping G drivers IMO.


Craig Dengate January 12, 2016 at 2:50 am

I agree Ben. You don’t see a chippy saying, a nail goes in faster with this $30 hammer in comparison to this $30 hammer.

A good golfer should be able to get very similar results no matter the club. The shaft is really the only thing that matters.


Simon Marc January 12, 2016 at 9:04 am

Craig, how does shaft matter? Loft and Centre of gravity placement matters so much more. Seen many testa that show the difference between ladies flex and x stiff matter for very little, let alone the difference between shaft brands of the same flex. Look at Crossfield ‘ s video on YouTube. It will bust your shaftoid fettish


Johnny Ra Ra January 12, 2016 at 1:25 pm

Agree, it’s just the miss hits that go further now.


Ben Satterfield January 12, 2016 at 1:30 pm

Yeah I’ve been playing a taylormade R1 since its release and haven’t noticed a significant drop off on miss hits.. But a shiny new toy does intrigue me.


retired04 January 11, 2016 at 11:17 am

Tony-Any idea if the weight can be changed? I’m old, short with long arms and am having better success with a 45″ driver and need the additional weight. Intrigued with the whole thing.


Tony Covey January 11, 2016 at 4:19 pm

Yes. The G series can be custom ordered to achieve the desired swingweight.


Brian Jay Murra January 11, 2016 at 4:13 pm

Paul Michael Grillo interesting read. We definitely have the swing speed needed for the tech to make a difference.


Steve January 11, 2016 at 11:13 am

Tony, did Ping actually do robot testing against the G30 to see what the increases are at exactly the same conditions? To me this is the only way to compare. I realize all the design numbers point to “better” but it would be nice to see the effects at 90, 95, 100 and 105mph swing speeds since most amateurs fall in that range. If in reality you can swing it faster then the roots may not be able to simulate that but I’ll bet a smart engineer could even figure that out….


Steve January 12, 2016 at 10:56 am

“then the ROBOTS may not be able…” Not “roots”….


Dave January 11, 2016 at 11:09 am

and for the drives that are uphill against that same wind?


JIM January 11, 2016 at 10:48 am

Ugley….about like my spelling. Not only does my M1 look good and instill confidence it is long.


Donovan Childers January 11, 2016 at 3:26 pm



MyGolf Spy January 11, 2016 at 3:31 pm

Actually no, this is not bullshit.


John January 11, 2016 at 10:47 am

Definitely not BS, thanks Tony for the info/article. It is appreciated! Your work has been helpful to me over the last year and a half or so since I discovered the blog – keep up the good work!


Dave January 11, 2016 at 11:08 am

He’s a man of few words……..


Nardu January 12, 2016 at 2:11 am

@MGS keep up the good work.
I’m pretty sure these claims will be proven in the most wanted driver test for the year, though I wasn’t as convinced about the G30 judging from last year’s most wanted driver article.
Are there other driver releases due before the 2016 bunch can be compared?


Andy Unger January 11, 2016 at 5:17 pm

As of right now it’s bull shit. They were on a course where you can get 60 yards of roll


Tony Covey January 11, 2016 at 12:23 pm

That’s the sort of deep thought that would make Jack Handy proud.

Can you please expand?

Are you saying you disbelieve what’s been stated as it conflicts with your rigidly held beliefs which may, or may not, have any foundation in actual reality?


Are you saying you have actual information that refutes PING’s claim. If this is the case, please do share.


Simon Marc January 11, 2016 at 9:06 pm

Oh Mygolf Spy, how often you fall fir marketing bs….


Rob Piña January 11, 2016 at 3:06 pm

The driving distances are inflated every single year at Kapalua since there are 4-5 holes where your ball can literally roll out 75-100 yards and many of the holes play with the wind.


Golf All Day January 11, 2016 at 3:10 pm



John January 11, 2016 at 10:39 am

True enough, but what does Kapalua have to do with this article?


Steve Mackenthun January 11, 2016 at 5:09 pm

Ha Ha! …John you were thinking like the rest of us , you just answered Rob P. so kindly/ perfectly.. thumbs up to you! BTW I would try this driver BUT two things turn me off …it’s ugly look and its price. The price of a new driver is now approaching the ridiculous… half the price of a new iron SET, four times the price of a wedge.


Lee Huff January 12, 2016 at 7:55 pm

They only use 2 holes per round for driving averages. One going one way, and one going the other. They done use all holes that they use driver on.


Chris Whitley January 13, 2016 at 2:24 pm

Exactly and the ball travels so much farther through the air in hot country’s you don’t see any of them carrying it 340 at the British open hence why they all struggle with it,you get true distances over here and anyone who can hit it 300 is a monster


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