FIRST LOOK – 2015 PING Ketsch
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FIRST LOOK – 2015 PING Ketsch

by Dave Wolfe

Ketsch: Early Favorite For 2015 Most Wanted Mallet

When we first toured the new PING Cadence TR line-up, one putter was left out of the article. I gave you a pretty good clue as to what was excluded, hinting that the excluded putter had earned the right to a little solo attention. Well let’s drop the subterfuge and get right to the potentially special putter in the Cadence TR stable: The PING Cadence TR Ketsch.

Unfamiliar with the PING Ketch and why it gets put on a pedestal? Let’s just say that the first incarnation of the Ketsch dominated the competition in the 2014 Most Wanted Mallet Test. 5-footers were basically gimmies for all of our testers. Yep, all of our testers.

The Ketch was an amazing performer on tour as well. In less than a year of play, there are already gold versions in PING’s fabled Gold Putter Vault.

It was the hot putter of 2014 and if the Cadence TR version of the Ketch is truly updated and upgraded, then I think that we have an early favorite in the 2015 Most Wanted Mallet field.

Not One Ketch, But Two

The Cadence TR line consists of both Traditional and Heavy versions for each model, and the Ketsch is no exception. Let’s take a look at the two incarnations.

PING Cadence TR Ketsch-11

PING Cadence TR Ketsch Heavy-2

  • Style: Machined Aluminum mallet, 17-4 stainless steel sole plate
  • Face: Milled TR Grooves
  • Alignment: alignment line extends from top rail to back of putter
  • Weights: Traditional, 355g; Heavy, 388g
  • Stroke Fit: Straight, Slight Arc, Strong Arc stroke types (achieved by different shaft bends)
  • Customization: lie angle +/- 2º
  • Price: U.S. MSRP: $245

Admittedly, there is not a whole lot of visual differences between the two Ketsch models. The are made of the same materials, with the variation in weight coming from the sole plates. There are some differences between the 2014 Most Wanted winning Ketsch and the Cadence TR Ketsch though.

First, let’s take a look at the big difference, the TR grooves.

The Groovespiracy

Top: Original Ketsch Bottom: Cadence TR Ketsch
Top: Original Ketsch            Bottom: Cadence TR Ketsch
In the highly-praised Ketsch putter, which is widely used on Tours around the world, our internal team recently determined that the grooves in the face technology are deeper than intended. As a result, we suspended productions and shipments of the putter. Today, we are announcing the Ketsch putter is returning to production and will soon me available with new grooves. – PING Chairman & CEO John A. Solheim, August 19, 2014

The Ketsch entered the 2014 golf market with very little promotion or fanfare. Then it won our Most Wanted Mallet Competition in a dominant fashion, and it became a very hot commodity. Lots of golfers had to wait through backorders, as PING strove to get the supply up to the demand. PING had a real hit on their hands.

Then they stopped production.

The issue was the grooves. It was not that they were non-conforming, or ineffective. Instead, PING had discovered that they were just not quite as effective as they could be, and so they re-tooled, and re-released a Ketsch with the 2.0 grooves. That means that the Cadence TR Ketsch is actually the third incarnation of the Ketsch. If you look at the photo above, you can see that both versions have the same number of grooves, but that the grooves on the Cadence TR version are definitely smaller.

It will be interesting to see if the new grooves make an already great rolling putter even better. I played a round with the Heavy version last week and one thing that I did notice is that the new grooves put a slightly hotter roll on the ball. I tended to miss short with the old version, and that was not the case at all with the Cadence TR. Just speculating though. At some point, I am going to follow up with some old vs. new groove testing with the iPING app.

Stay Tuned…

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      Sen

      9 years ago

      So when is the 2015 most wanted putters? Could you give me a ballpark time? Itching for a new putter.

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      Where’s this comparative testing the article talks about?? I’m in the market for a putter and I don’t know if I want the 1.0 or 2.0 (light or heavy).

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      Fozcycle

      9 years ago

      I finally got a Ketsch with 33″ straight back shaft off ebay….from looking at the pics of grooves, it appears mine is the original version….Really like the feel. The only thing I do not like is that you can’t pick up a golfball with it…..LOL

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      Wayne

      8 years ago

      I never could figure out how to pick the ball out from the hole with a putter either.

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      Scooter

      9 years ago

      Question, I am more interested in the type of putter the original was relative to arc/straight type. The one that won the competition was version one, then they recalled it and came out with a new one with three stroke types…what was the original? Staight back? In other words I want to buy the same type of shaft that the original had..anyone know?

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      Rob

      9 years ago

      I didn’t read all the comments in this article, but as far as i can see everyone mentioned the grooves on the new 2015 Cadence TR Ketch, but I didn’t notice or see if there was any mention of weight difference too. The old 2014 Ketch mallet had a 400 gram cb head. The new Cadence TR Ketch now has different groves but also the head weight was reduced from 400 g to 388 g. I don’t know if it really makes much difference but just interesting how much they changed the original in such a short time .

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      jandkw

      9 years ago

      Dave Wolfe, thanks for the TR Ketsch review. I like Ping putters and have been playing the Craz-e mallet putter for the past 7-8 years and like it a lot. After reading this article and comments, I went to my local Golfsmith and Golf Galaxy to try the Ping Ketsch mallet heavy putter but couldn’t find any left handed so I played with the right and had fairly good success within 6-7 feet. I couldn’t imagine if they have a left handed Ketsch for me to try. I purchased and replaced a lot of drivers and even irons in the past but hesitated to replace my Craz-e putter. I wonder if there is any good reason for me to replace my Craz-e with this TR Ketsch? Suggestions? Needless to say, I cannot find any left handed TR Ketsch putter in any of my local store to play with, and not sure how can I make a buying decision without testing the putter.

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      Denebola

      9 years ago

      Can anyone tell me the difference between Ketsch 1.0 and Ketsch 2.0? Do they both have the same ‘old’ grooves that they are modifying in the new Cadence?

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      AWOL

      9 years ago

      There something strange about this ineffective groove claim that ping is making. There has got to be something more to the story. Especially when in came to how quickly they pulled it to retool it. I bet the grooves may have been slightly illegal and before any tour pros got disqualified they pulled it. I think there is a lot of people that may think this too. It puts Ping in a bad spot because if it doesnt do as well then there will be a run for the older putter if any are left out there. And even if its a good putter everyone will call it crap compared to the old one. It just doesnt make sense to think they can make the dominant model of last year better and claim that it was defective. It would be like winning $300 million powerball and turning it down because you think you can win a $400 million jackpot. Sure i get the concept of next year, better innovation, as any golf company claims their next product is better than the last. But its a putter for gods sake, we think driver innovation is dead and repetitive what do we think of putter tech. We will see i guess.

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      Scarlet Dragon

      9 years ago

      In Australia, they had little hype. I only found out about the Ketsch when I hit upon this site (and have been delighted to have done so).
      In Sydney, no shop has one available to buy let alone demo.
      I was fortunate my pro shop was adjusting a grip for one.
      I could not believe my success at sinking putts up to 10 feet…..seemed to be virtually 100% over 50 putts.
      Truth was, I did miss a few, but they went so close, the 2nd was a gimmee. Even up to 20 feet.
      This model release complicates it for me.
      Yes, I want one BUT would dearly love to try the heavier one.
      Do I try to buy now, or wait for at least 2 months before they are released in Australia?
      Help me, please.

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      Indoorgolf

      9 years ago

      If you need a center shaft putter send one to a custom shop like Bob Ubelhor in Indianapolis In and he will redrill a new hole and fill the old hole. Sent putters to him before and he does nice work.

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      Bob

      9 years ago

      I just bought an adjustable Ketch putter as well and love it, I liked the putter since it was released but it took me a while to get around to buying one. I was looking for a 34″ but the only one available at my local PGS SS was the adjustable model and so far I really like it.

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      Jeff

      9 years ago

      The adjustable shafts are good but to actually line up the grip properly is a pain.Any ideas.

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      Darren Tan

      9 years ago

      Well I use the horizontal part of the grip and align it with the middle alignment line on the putter. It’s not 100% but I think it’s very close.

      Marklar

      9 years ago

      After the MGS test of the original Ketsch I was interested to try this 352% performer!

      Went and demoed the putter, I really liked it and as said the short puts were gimmies. In the shop I saw a CB version, I tried it and instantly fell in love with it. I got the pro shop to lend to me for a day and went to test it on a real green, liked it even more but the putter was a 38″ and was a bit too long for me. So I visited every golf store in my region to find a shorter CB model, couldn’t find one so I bought the adjustable version. I got a few rounds in it but didn’t like the adjustable heavy shaft as much as the fixed length version. The shaft just took away some of the feel and the metal bracket for adjusting the length felt like it added unwanted weight in the center of the shaft and countered some of the effects of the counterbalance weight.

      Then I think it was the 3rd day after the purchase I find out Mr. Solheims statement about the deeper then intended grooves, I instantly started feeling like the defected grooves are leaving my putts short.. I think it was mental but it was there, not a nice feeling after shoveling $300 on a putter. So I went to the store and asked to return it under the return policy and the shop wrote me a gift card. Since there was a new model with “intended” grooves I left an order in for the new CB model in fixed length at 36” since that’s how long I found I wanted in to be when using the adjustable version. Then the trouble started, I started to call the pro shop after 1,5 months had gone since my order and they couldn’t give me any answers. 2months passed and I contacted Ping and I got an answer from Ping UK that they will no longer deliver the Ketsch, even the new grooved version?! This was odd since I saw online that golfers in the US are buying the new grooved version and this time it was even made in China.. So I think deliveries stopped only to the Nordics or the EU all together. Ping took 3months to inform me that my order will not be delivered, I was pissed for the way they left me as a custom order customer and also the Golf shop in the dark.

      The local Ping rep I originally got in contact with emailed me that there is a new model coming February 2015 and that’s when they start to receive orders again for the Ketsch.

      When I saw the CadenceTR models released on Monday and read that pre-orders are available now I went to the store to update my 4months old order into the Ketsch Heavy model, (since there isn’t a CB model available?!) with 36” slight arc shaft and a 17” Winn counterbalance grip. At Ping site there is a small print: “Any Cadence TR model can be custom-ordered with the counter-balanced shaft and 17-inch grip.”.

      So I’m hoping that this time they can deliver this custom order and not a charade like this^^, fingers crossed!

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      HandSolo

      9 years ago

      Bought TWO Ketsch 2.0 Adjustables this year for Christmas; one for myself and the other for my 11 y/o son, and all I can say is WOW! They definitely live up to the hype and we are both dropping putts like never before. I certainly see them in our bags for years to come :)

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      LuvMP15

      9 years ago

      Ping is killing me by not releasing this in a center shaft version. They built one for Miguel Angel Jimenez last year but have no plans on releasing it anytime soon.

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      Birdeez

      9 years ago

      i’ll stick with my SeeMore no offset putter…..but i’d be buying if Ping would make this putter without offset and center shafted.

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      SkipThisAd

      9 years ago

      “How”I meant, instead of “have”

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      SkipThisAd

      9 years ago

      If, there’s something wrong with the grooves,can we say that the putter won the competition with defected grooves? In other words,all the 5 footers that went in should had missed ? Did grooves help bad putts go in? We should see have the new version grooves will preform on next putter test.Just wondering.

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      Kevin

      9 years ago

      Dave S and Markb,

      The grooves on all Ketsch “1.0” or “2.0” models are USGA conforming. Guaranteed. A number of tour players are using the 1.0 still, others the 2.0. No statistical fluke and PING most certainly did not get lucky. Every move made from an engineering standpoint is very calculated. After the initial release, the engineers realized grooves were milled deeper than the intended design called for. Being an honest company, PING offered a voluntary “gift” of $30 to repair any relationship damaged with the possibility of misleading specifications (for all 1.0 serials, not just some). The success and demand of the putter compounded this issue forcing production down immediately, puting all orders on hold. The demand alone put a significant lead time on the 1.0 before the groove issue even came up. “Store” models did not take priority over customer orders. Just like all other PING products, nothing is put into production until a workorder is received (everything, even shop inventory is treated as custom) to prevent an overflow of inventory (an issue that other companies have). 500000 heads aren’t made because they “think” they are going to sell 500000 them. No one could have predicted how successful and receptive it was at the retail level. From a manufacturing standpoint, the heads are milled from a solid piece of aluminum, and then coated with a very special finish in the USA. it is not like they are cut and finished within seconds. As far as the Cadence Ketsch, this is a separate model (2 different weights) as you can see in the above article. 2.0 is still in production and you can call any authorized retailer to order one.

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      markb

      9 years ago

      As a proud owner of a Ketsch I let me come right out and say it — Ping has no idea what they are doing with the Ketsch and never have.

      No promotion when originally released, constant back-order shortages limiting availability that were attributed to difficulty milling the heads, botched the grooves on the 1.0 stemming from their vaunted Made-in-USA milling machine, cancelled the1,0 after a few months with explanations slow in coming, offer a $30 rebate to SOME serial numbers of the original not all, ship the replacement 2,0 to stores first and short their back orders AGAIN, stop production of 2.0 with a murky explanation AGAIN, release 3.0. All in the space of 10 months.

      If the Ketsch survives as a brand it will be a testament to the superiority of design because Ping has been clubbing it like a baby seal ever since birth. While it may be the Most Wanted Mallet of 2014, it should also be the Most Botched Brand Release of 2014.

      All that said, you can’t have mine. I’ll never part with it.

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      Trebuchet

      9 years ago

      I may have missed it, but I see no mention of a counter-balanced version. Did they ditch it, or are they saving it for later?

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      M

      9 years ago

      All heavy versions of the Cadence line (including the Ketsch) can be ordered as CB

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      Find this weird. It was such a dominate putter, so I find it really weird that they thought they could “just make it better” I’m guessing the grooves were really not legal and they caught on before it was discovered. I mean, otherwise, why the rush to get them off the market so quickly if they were so good?

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      This.

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      Imagine TM pulling the SLDR from shelves b/c they thought they could make it better and didn’t want to give all of those people clamoring to buy it a lesser version?? Yeah f***ing right! There’s def more to this than Ping is saying, and I suspect Lou is correct.

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      Qwagmire

      9 years ago

      I’ll give you my Original Ketsch when you pry it from my cold, dead hands

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      I’m sure Ping thinks that “fixing” the groove issue will make the Ketch even better than the previous one, but I’m skeptical. The way that Ketch dominated the MW Mallet Putter competition was incredible… a result NO ONE saw coming. When things like that happen, it’s b/c of one of two things, either it was a total statistical fluke (below 1% likelihood), OR Ping happened to catch lightning in a bottle, and in a manner of speaking, got lucky. Maybe all the stars aligned in the previous version? And I have to think the grooves had something to do with it… if they were awful, the putter wouldn’t have dominated like it did. Why fix something that not only isn’t broken, but is hands-down the best performing mallet putter we’ve ever seen??

      All that said, I am really hoping I’m wrong, b/c I’m in the market for a new putter this season and this is at the top of my list to try out.

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      Teaj

      9 years ago

      as far as fitting goes, is there going to be one putter better then the other for different strokes or is it all based off feel. I would love to pre-order one but am not sure if one would perform better then the other, as far as the traditional and heavy version.

      Currently gaming the Havok from Odyssey and feel I cannot miss from 5′ with that ether so it would be interesting if the Cadence TR could knock it out of the bag.

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