ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Dynacraft Prophet Tour Iron (HIREKO GOLF)
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ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Dynacraft Prophet Tour Iron (HIREKO GOLF)

ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Dynacraft Prophet Tour Iron (HIREKO GOLF)

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Dynacraft Prophet Tour Review

While the sad reality is that most golfers probably won’t look any further than the big name manufacturers when shopping for their next set of irons, we think it’s always worth bringing some of the smaller, lesser-known component companies into the discussion.  Really, should a quality component manufacturer be ignored simply because their logo isn’t stitched (in orange thread no less) across Rickie Fowler’s backside? Not only are many component companies you may never have heard of churning out products that are often on par with those of the major OEMS, but because smaller companies don’t have to worry about things like PGA sponsorships and multi-million dollar advertising budgets, these less-than-household names can afford to offer competitive products at significantly lower cost to the consumer.

What We Tested, and How We Tested It

Our new testing methodology, which we think will prove to be the most comprehensive and unbiased set of club testing procedures found anywhere (online or in print), includes a balance of subjective feedback  (look, feel, sound), as well as detailed ball flight analysis.  The next generation of reviews from MyGolfSpy will include what we call SpecCheck; a series of tests designed to determine if the clubs you buy are truly the clubs you get.

A full overview of our new testing procedures will be posted soon, and rest assured future reviews will be much more data intensive.

For this review Hireko Golf sent us a set of their Dynacraft Prophet Blades (3-PW), equipped with TrueTemper Dynamic Gold S300 shafts.  Because Dynacraft is a component company, this review features a less comprehensive version of both SpecCheck and our performance tests.  Here’s how we tested:

  • All performance testing was done on state-of-the-art 3Trak equipped simulators from aboutGolf at Tark’s Indoor Golf; an indoor golf, club fitting and repair facility located in Saratoga Springs, NY.
  • Prior to performance testing, the entire set was measured for lie and loft on a STEELCLUB® Plus Angle Machine from Mitchell Golf.  For any head that measured outside of MyGolfSpy’s tolerances for lie or loft (± .5°) points were deducted accordingly.
  • A group of golfers consisting of high, middle and low handicap golfers was asked to hit several shots with both the 6 iron and pitching wedge so that we could accurately calculate averages for both overall distance, and deviation from the target line.
  • When possible, golfers were asked to hit several shots with their own clubs so that comparative data could be collected.
  • Our 3 testers, as well as several testers for whom comprehensive data was not collected were asked to subjectively rate the irons for looks, feel, and overall value.
  • Points from all scoring categories were tallied to arrive at our final score.

Looks – Simply Exquisite

The Prophet Tours feature a glossy black PVD coating that gives the irons a distinct, sophisticated look.  No matter who we showed it to (man or woman) everyone we showed the Prophet Tour to absolutely loved the smokey black finish.  Most of the golfers we spoke with feel the Prophet Tour looks as good, or better, than anything they’ve seen from the major OEMs.

Apart from the finish, the Prophet Tour feature a reasonably compact blade style head.  It is worth noting that the Prophet Tour has more offset than one might typically find in a blade – especially in the longer irons.  Some low handicappers may not approve, but since the Prohpet Tour is billed as more of a transitional iron (for the mid-handicapper closing in on single digits), the additional forgiveness provided by the offset should make the club more appealing for the mid-low handicap golfer.

Visible on the back of the clubhead is what Dynacraft calls a stability slot.  Basically they’ve milled out a section of the head so that more of the overall mass is shifted to the bottom of the club.  Those of you familiar with Mizuno’s “pocket cavity” design will not doubt find similarities.  It’s a design that for the most part we like, however, Kent, our low handicap tester felt the cavity was unnecessary in the shorter irons. It’s a point we’re inclined to agree with.

>> Looks: 8 out of 10

Feel – Pretty good…no more, no less

We had three golfers (low, middle, and high handicap) take several swings with the Prophet Tour 6-iron and pitching wedge.  While no golfer who tested the Prophet Tour would classify the feel as great or outstanding, the general consensus among our middle and low handicap golfers was that the Prophet Tour felt “pretty good”.  As one might expect our low handicapper hit nearly every ball on the center of the clubface, so he really couldn’t say how mis-hits feel.  Anthony, our high handicap golfer, who felt the Prophet Tours felt just ok on solid shots, labeled the Prohpet Tours “downright uncomfortable” when less than solidly struck.

We’re less than concerned about the prospect of the Prophet Tours feeling harsh on mis-hit balls.  These are, after-all, better players clubs, and most better players demand exactly the kind of feedback provided by the Prophet Tours.  It’s also not unrealistic to think that golfers who’ve grown accustomed to oversized cavitybacks designed to make hosel rockets feel as buttery soft as grandma’s biscuits, aren’t going to enjoy the less than subtle vibrations that come from a ball struck 1/4 inch from the toe.

What we took away from our feel testing is that although the Prophet Blades don’t feel quite as good as a forged iron from Mizuno or Titleist, the feel as good as many cast irons on the market today, and significantly better than department store junk.

>> Feel: 7.5 out of 10

SpecCheck – Not up to par

A new feature of MGS club reviews is a little something we like to call SpecCheck.  We’ll be comparing the actual specifications of the clubs we test against the manufacturers stated specifications.  We want to make sure that the manufacturers are delivering what they say they are.  You can expect future iterations of SpecCheck to include an unprecedented amount of detail, but since we’re reviewing the Prophet Tour irons as components, and not a complete set, we limited our tests to loft and lie measurements.

Through our testing we discovered that 6 of the 8 clubs we received actually fell outside of MyGolfSpy’s .5 degree tolerances (when compared to published specifications) for lie, loft or both.  The biggest discrepancy we found with with the loft of the 3 iron.  Although the published specifications for the head call for 21° of loft, we measured the club at 24° – meaning that the 3 iron and the 4 iron (which measured within our tolerances), were effectively the same (apart from the longer shaft of the 3 iron).  It goes without saying that we find a 3° discrepancy unacceptable.  From a consumer perspective, it’s safe to say that we’d sent the head back.

Dynacraft Prophet Tour SpecCheck sheet:

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With the exception of the 3 degree discrepancy in the loft of the 3 iron (bending a cast head 3° is a hairy proposition at best), it would be reasonably easy to bend the clubs to spec, but realistically, the average golfer probably has neither the tools nor the inclination to do so.

>> SpecCheck:  21 out of 25

Performance

While I’d never dream of telling you that looks don’t matter (nobody wants to play with an ugly club), but performance is where the rubber meets the road, or at least where the steel meets the surlyn.

While we didn’t collect the kind of detailed data you’ll find in our future reviews, we did have our golfers hit shots with both the 6 iron and the pitching wedge.

  • HIGH-HANDICAPPER – Anthony, our high handicapper was all over the map with the  Prophet Tour blades.  He quickly learned that, like most irons designed for the better player, there are sometimes severe distance penalties to be paid for mis-hitting the golf ball.  From an accuracy standpoint Anthony felt that they were about the same as his current irons – a notion that supports the contention that the Dynacraft Prophet Tours are an easy to hit blade.  Surprisingly, Anthony felt that the Prophet Tours were nearly a full club longer than his current irons; an notion fully supported by the raw distance data we did collect.
  • MID-HANDICAPPER – Dan, our middle handicapper also felt the sting of distance lost on mis-hit balls – at least in comparison to his current cavity backs.  For well struck balls, however, Dan found distance to be lockstep with his current setup.  On the day we did our testing he didn’t have his own clubs with him, but since he’s used the simulator on several prior occasions we don’t have any cause to doubt him.
  • LOW HANDICAPPER – Kent, our low handicap golfer (and PGA teaching professional) also found distance right in line with his current irons.  Watching him hit shot after hot nearly straight down the target line was hard for this average golfer to stomach, but it wasn’t until we looked at the numbers and discovered that he averaged just a hair over 3 yards off the center line did we realize that the Prophet Tours, when placed in the right hands, are very much a serious players iron.

“These things have razor blades for grooves” – Kent T (low handicap golfer)

While overall the Prophet Tours outperformed our first expectations, it’s worth noting that the grooves, especially those on the pitching wedge, are absolutely brutal on the cover of a golf ball.  I’ve tested a number of clubs over the years, but have never seen anything (Vokey SpinMilled and Callaway MacDaddy wedges included) shred the cover of a golf ball like the Prophet Tours.

The golf balls provided by aboutGolf for use on their 3Trak equipped simulators are just a hair softer than the average steel pipe, and yet by the time we were done our simulator mat looked like somebody had been grating cheese over it.   While we suspect the grooves will dull over time, we’re wondering how many $4 golf balls get chewed to the mantle before that happens.

>> Performance: 38 out of 50

Value – A good product at a great price

All 3 of our formal testers said that overall they liked the Prophet Tour blades.  Dan, our mid-handicapper (who looking for new irons) said he’d definitely consider the Prophet Tour blades, especiall when we told him that the cost ($35,95 each / 287.60 assembled – 3-PW) was roughly one third the cost of similar OEM blades.  While based on performance alone, our low handicap golfer rated the irons as a 7 out of 10, from a value perspective, they’re easily an 8 out of 10.  Our other testers thought that number might actually be a little low.

>> Value: 8.5 out of 10

Conclusion – Not for everyone, but an excellent value proposition

While the Dynacraft Prophet Tours received low marks on our SpecCheck (which put a significant ding in the  total score), overall, we came away pleasantly surprised and even a little bit impressed.   Not surprisingly our high handicap golfer said he probably wouldn’t consider buying a set for himself, but both our middle and low handicap golfers thought enough of the clubs to say that they would at least consider Dynacraft’s Prophet Tour irons when it comes time to buy their next set.

>> Total Score: 83 out of 100

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      steve

      11 years ago

      these irons are on ebay right now for 180$ 3-pw sounds like a real good deal to me

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      zac

      12 years ago

      Hey ,good review! Was just wondering if there is going to be a reveiw on the new x2 caiman blade irons

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      Charles Lerche

      12 years ago

      I just got a 5-PW set of these. I have to say that they certainly seem to be as good as the vast majority of reviews say they are. The “feel” is there (probably not quite as nice as forged, but definitely there), and so is the tolerance/forgiveness. I had a nice chance to compare, when, the day after first hitting my Prophet Tours on the range, I had a chance to hit a very nice Nike muscle back blade (ie no forgiveness I could see). I could hit the blade, but for the first time since I re-took up the game a few years ago, i experienced the “jar” people talk about on a blade mishit (and not even a full mishit…I mean the ball took off, more or less). The Prophet Tour is nothing like that. You certainly know you didn’t hit it flush, but it really doesn’t seem to “jar” at all. So, while I don’t want to wax too lyrical, it does seem to me you have much of the “benefit” of a blade, without nearly so much of the “downside” (I mean, come on…does feedback have to nearly hurt to be useful :-) ).

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      zac

      13 years ago

      Wow, should I build a set of these or not???? HOW DO THEY PLAY???? Anybody play a round with these clubs or do you sit around in lab coats with loft/lie gauges and lap tops?????Please before I spend a couple bills…. How do they play???Z

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      Dr Bill Easson

      13 years ago

      I’m still using these irons which are excellent.(Used now for the last year). Their “feel” is good and I have checked lies and lofts and found them to be spot-on. It is a long time since I have had a set of irons which have played as well as these. The one exception is the sand iron, which I do not use, largely because I have an old beryllium copper, “Sandy Andy” , which I love and need for the soft sand at the limks courses I often visit, and I have a a Snake Eyes 60 degree wedge.
      The black finish on the clubs does not last — it does not seem very well applied, but this is a small price to pay for good-feeling clubs!
      (I have to say I have absolutely NO connection iwth Dynacraft!!!)

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      Tom

      14 years ago

      Thanks, GolfSpyT for your response. It is appropriate to penalize, as you do, more heavily as the discrepancy gets greater–and 3 degrees out of spec is wildly off the mark (as I said, I wonder whether something happened to that particular head after being cast, given the softness of the 304 stainless–but whatever). I still wonder–and don’t really know–whether your penalty scale is linear or more severe. That is, I’d be inclined to penalize a club that was outside your 1/2 degree tolerance but within 1 degree–the rather standard manufacturing tolerance–significantly (and not just linerally) less than one that was off by 1.5 degrees or more, where the issue becomes not just “perfection” but possible overlap….

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      GolfSpy T

      14 years ago

      Based on the feedback we’ve received, with special consideration to Tom’s last comment, a rethink of SpecCheck was warranted. Originally, I had conceived as SpecCheck as a pass/fail (sort of an all or nothing) system, but in hindsight, that way of doing things, I think, is far too heavy handed. After all, as Tom pointed out (or at least how I read Tom’s comment), A club 3 degrees out of spec is a much bigger concern that a club that’s within manufacturer’s tolerances (even if those tolerances are less stringent than our own). Our goal is to reward the best of the best, but that shouldn’t mean exponentially lower scores for those manufacturers who don’t quite achieve our standards (especially when compared to those that don’t even come close).

      To that end, I’ve modified the way points are calculated for SpecCheck, and applied those changes to the Dynacraft review. As you can see, the newest way of awarding points is far less penal, and more realistically represents the actual quality of the clubs. I’ve also added our actual spec chart to the review.

      Without getting into the calculations that go into arriving at a final points score for SpecCheck (it’s boils down to percentages), every measurement we take is worth up to 5 points. With respect to both lie and loft; any club within .5 degrees gets the full 5 points. For anything from .5 to 1 degree out of spec, 1 point is deducted. Anything from 1 to 1.5 degrees out of spec is a 3 point deduction. Anything beyond 1.5 degrees results in a full 5 point deduction. We have similar scales we will use for Swing Weight, Length, and frequency as well. Some day we may measure bounce and offset, but we’re not there yet.

      So to answer what I think is the meat of the question, the scale we’ve adopted is not truly linear. Being slightly out of spec (within industry tolerances) results in a minor ding to the score. Being way out of spec causes a much larger hit.

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      GolfSpyT

      14 years ago

      @ Jay Whipple – First, thank you for your detailed and well thought out comment. By all accounts, the Mitchell STELLCLUB Plus that we use is the best bending machine on the market today. It is the industry standard for both measuring and bending. There isn’t a fair comparison to be drawn between the Golfworks machines, and the Mitchell, which is likely why they recommend you purchase one of their gauges as well. If it’s good enough for most (if not all) PGA Tour vans, we believe it’s good enough for the purposes of SpecCheck.

      To specifically address the “3 degree issue” with the 3 iron from the Prophet Tour set we tested – I personally measured the club 3 times (re-clamping each time). In every case I measured the club at exactly 24 degrees. I then enlisted a professional clubmaker to also measure the club (without telling him what my measurements were). He too measured the club at exactly 24 degrees. Incidentally, the 4 iron from the same set measured a hair under 24.5 degrees (within our tolerances). I have no doubt that our measurements are accurate. I have no way of knowing what happened to this particular head, but I do wonder if a 4 iron head wasn’t mis-stamped as a 3 iron.

      @ Tom – as was already stated, we’re fully aware that our tolerances are tighter than the industry at large. We’ll publish a full overview of our testing methodology soon. For now, here’s the snippet that deals with our tolerances:

      MyGolfSpy understands that in most cases industry-wide and individual manufacturer tolerances are less strict than our own. With this consideration in mind; for each spec we measure, points are deducted on a sliding scale. As an example, a club that is 1.5° out of spec is penalized more heavily that one 1° (the industry standard) out of spec. In this respect, even though our own tolerances are tighter, the standard is applied equally. Indeed, our tolerances are tight, but believe that for a club to receive a perfect SpecCheck score, it should be perfect.

      We think that those manufacturers who deliver their products within stricter tolerances, and 100% as specified, should be rewarded for their higher standards and commitment to quality.

      It is our belief that each and every club we test should receive 100% of the points available through SpecCheck. Achieving a perfect score is as simple as giving the consumer exactly what you say you are giving them.

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      chris

      9 years ago

      While i agree with Golfspy, i also agree with Jay. Regardless of what the manufacturer says, you will always get a better reading on clubs using a spec gauge rather than putting it in the bending machine and reading from there. While it may be durable and high quality, i don’t trust it to the clubs that i make. I have found that yes, after measuring on the bending machine i can put the vast majority – easily 99.5% – of clubs into the spec gauge and they come out spot on, but sometimes it might come out up to a half degree off. This could be due to minor imperfections in the milling, club damage, who knows why it just didn’t clamp right in the machine. Of course, if this is the standard you use, then it’s completely fair across the board. I have always assumed MGS has quality controlled their equipment periodically – as everyone should – to ensure that from one week/ month/ year to the next the equipment is giving the same reading as it was previously and have no doubts their processes are second to none. that’s why i read and trust their reviews as a benchmark for my own tests with product and use. I think if there’s one thing going through our educations as club fitters and builders has taught us it’s that there are trade-offs for everything you do. There were no faults in this article — except that i wished it wasn’t for the tour version, because that’s not what i was looking for :)

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      Tom

      14 years ago

      Putting aside the odd 3 degree discrepancy with the 3 iron–which is way out of spec (and seems largely unexplained, although something happening along the way with the soft 304 stainless used in the Prophet Tour is as likely as a manufacturing error–why did you settle on a .5 degree tolerance? As Jeff Summitt noted, my sense is that the industry standard, and not just Hierko, is +/- 1 degree (for both loft and lie). While, theoretically, tighter is better, is there a substantive reason for your standard to diverge from that industry norm?

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      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      As far as tolerances are concerned, we are aware that our tolerances are tighter than a large portion of the industry. We’ve deliberately chosen to be more strict on the manufacturers than they are on themselves. Our guidelines impose a single set of standards across the board, but we feel that it also allows the cream to rise to the top as they say.

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      Jay Whipple

      14 years ago

      Gentlemen,

      I was very interested in your review of the Dynacraft Prophet Tour iron and impressed with your new review rating system. I’m sure readers will get unbiased, definitive information on current golf clubs in the weeks ahead. However, I think it’s important to re-examine two points from your article. First, checking to see if specifications of a clubhead, such as loft and lie, are within company tolerance levels by using a loft/lie bending machine scale is not the accepted method for determining accuracy. At the five day Golfworks clubmaking school I attended, the class was taught to use a “club gauge” to determine various specifications of a clubhead. This piece of equipment is designed to provide truly accurate calculations of loft angle, lie angle, face angle, face progression, and hosel offset of clubheads. It can also assist in measuring iron bounce angle and the length/height/width of a clubhead. This tool is a key piece of equipment for not only independent clubmakers but also OEM golf club manufacturers due to its preciseness. A loft and lie machine’s scales are reasonably accurate, but not precise 100% of the time like a club gauge. If a loft and lie machine’s scales were initially used to measure these clubhead specifications, it would then be necessary to check them on a club gauge to ensure accuracy. The same would hold true once a clubhead’s loft and/or lie were changed by use of the bending machine. It is certainly possible that the Dynacraft Prophet Tour 3 iron you measured was in fact off by 3 degrees from spec. However, you can’t state this as fact without verifying it by means of a club gauge.
      Before I address my second point, I’d like to commend you for mentioning the fact that there are some quality component clubheads and finished clubs on the market that deserve consideration by golfers of all abilities. You’re statement that some of these products are equivalent to OEM clubs is supported by range and on course test results in addition to launch monitor data and comments from golfers who have used component clubs. I’m sure all of us know that there are component clones and “knockoffs”. A great deal of this stuff is junk and should be avoided at all cost. But again, as stated in the article, there are several high quality component clubheads and finished clubs that are solid performers.
      My second point has to do with your response to the first person who commented on your evaluation of the Prophet Tour iron. The person commented that the 3 degree variation from the loft specification on the 3 iron was just too much to ignore and that they would not consider these irons because of this. Your response included the comment about how this is an issue with nearly every golf component company in existence. I think this statement will probably leave most readers with the sense that component companies do not have any proper quality controls in place and that it would be a crap shoot at best to end up with clubheads or finished clubs that are anywhere near their stated specifications. Again, I admit there are many golf component companies out there that have little or no quality control and produce inferior products. But, there are several reputable component companies that have extensive research and development, utilize the latest materials, contract with the same foundries in China that almost all of the OEM companies use, and have stringent quality standards that are strictly adhered to. Some of these companies include Golfworks, Tom Wishon Golf Technology, SMT, Golfsmith, and Hireko ( the company that produces the Dynacraft Prophet Tour iron ). It’s true that these companies sometimes have some club- heads that don’t conform to the stated specifications. This is going to happen occasionally when thousands of clubheads are produced in a given year. The same thing happens to the OEM companies, but it is not publicized very often. If you look at the OEM companies club specification tolerance levels for loft and lie for example, you will see that they all accept +1 or -1 degree. The same is true for the reputable component companies. MGS employed +.5 or -.5 degree tolerance for loft and lie in the testing. That is excessively stringent based on the standard practice in the industry.
      To sum up, I readily accept the fact that the Prophet Tour 3 iron could have been 3 degrees off in its loft, but it might have been less too because the club gauge was not utilized to confirm the loft and lie machine’s readings. It is not unusual for clubheads or finished clubs to be out of specification, sometimes even more than the stated tolerance levels. The important issue here is, when the actual loft/lie reading is excessive ( + or – ) compared to the accepted tolerance level, does the company stand behind their product and rectify the situation to the customer’s satisfaction, even if it means replacing a clubhead or finished club. In my experience with the quality component companies, this is a given!
      I appreciate you taking the time to read this rather lengthy response.

      Sincerely,
      Jay Whipple

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      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      Well going to Golfworks school and coming out of that experience is great although you absolutely do not have to measure golf clubs with Club Gauge to be very close to accurate. If you are referring to the Golfworks model you could not be more mislead by their schools. The Mitchell Loft/Lie machine is light years better made then the GolfWorks loft/lie machines and Club Gauge.

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      Jeff Summitt

      14 years ago

      Dear MGS staff:

      Thank you for the review on our Dynacraft Prophet Tour irons! As you know, there is a lot of very good golf products out in the market that few have hear of beside the major 5 manufacturers. I think this is why your site should do very well in the future explaining that to your readers.

      One thing I would like say is that Hireko’s tolerance for loft / lie is +/-1º. This has been typical, not only for us for many years, but the industry as a whole. The more clubs you review I think you will find that to be norm. Having said that, hearing that one of our products was out of tolerance (especially that much) really concerns me because we have prided ourselves on offering the same quality products as the major manufacturers, albeit at lower pricing.

      In the last several years I have never seen one of our products that far off in specification. I even contacted our foundry to pull the inspection report from the last production batch and measure the lofts on any left over 3-irons to ensure they were all in tolerance, which they were.

      Jeff Summitt
      Technical Director
      Hireko Golf

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      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      Hi Jeff – thanks for the comments. I have tested many of your products and have never found the tolerance issue to be the case with any of them. We did however test this set multiple times to make sure we were right with our findings. But like I said have never had this issue with any of your components previously.

      I don’t want this to persuade golfers not to try your products because I do feel their are many custom fit benefits to your components for a large majority of golfers out there.

      We plan on doing more reviews of products from your line and other component companies as well. SO we hope you continue to be a part of the MGS blog and forum. I think your wealth of knowledge could be extremely beneficial to the readers.

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      Roy D Tousley

      14 years ago

      MSG keep up the good work, I realize just how involved and intense this is to accomplish. I go back a long way with the DynaCraft product (used them for Senior Tour Qualifier) great stuff. I know there have been a lot of changes sense the 90’s but I find it difficult to understand a line of product being sent to you or anyone else without every club being checked and double checked for all spec’s. The Dynacraft product in my opinion was the best component product going for many years until Mr Jeff Sheets came into the component design business. There are as you know numerous reasons a clubs loft/lie can deveate from norm (hosel issues,head itself issues etc) these are after all components and we assume they will be crafted by a certified club crafter who will make certain all spec’s are met for their client. A fully assembled set in my opinion should not have the issues you brought forth.
      Keep up the good work.
      All The Best

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      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      Thanks Roy I really do appreciate you taking time to give our review process a compliment. We rally are trying to make this the most thorough club review process out there. We feel that the majority of the reviews out there have become more and more watered down.

      I will say this about the Hireko review. I was surprised they were not double checked as well…although they were unfortunately the first ones to go through this new review system. But that being said tolerance are there for a reason and they should have still been checked. I have checked a few other of their clubs since and have not had this issue. So I am assuming this was more of a random issue.

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      Jon

      14 years ago

      Great review. I was actually going to purchase a set of these as a backup/travel set to my TM Tour Preferred set. But, after reading the review and the spec problem, I decided to look for a closeout special on a brand name tour iron.

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      BTO

      14 years ago

      MGS…. Perhaps Dynacraft is relying on thier manufacturer to completely assure QC on the castings. I assume these are made off shore by a cottage casting house? Does Dynacraft then conduct in house QC before sending out clubs?

      As best we try to maintain Quality when making a club, occasionally a club does gets by.

      Of course this never happens in the Auto Industry, oops!!!

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      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      Many component companies have similar issues with head specs. This is one of the issues with going that route. But I will say that Hireko is rarely off with their specs I honestly feel this was a rare occurence with them. They are one of the best when it comes to affordable components.

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      Steve

      14 years ago

      Excellent review and evaluation. I like the way it was conducted.

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      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      Thanks Steve! We hope you enjoy our new review system in the future as well. We will have a new one up on the site next week.

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      Mitch

      14 years ago

      Great review! On the loft issue, is there a simple, *reasonably* accurate way for an average joe to check lofts at home? My little plastic protractor seems a tad undergunned. Also, I have some old Dynacraft wedges (a 55 and a 60 with little bounce, which I like a lot) — same outfit?

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      GolfSpyT

      14 years ago

      Mitch,

      My guess is there isn’t reasonably accurate way to do it without a lie/loft machine (or something else designed for a similar purpose). You can probably find a local proshop willing to take a look at lie and loft for a reasonable price. We do a complete set analysis (which includes lie/loft, length, swing weight, and a complete frequency analysis) for $50. I’d expect lie/loft for a couple of clubs would be less.

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      Value Golf

      14 years ago

      Nice review MGS, I do enjoy your unbiased reviews.

      We have sold the Prophet Tours like hotcakes since release, and we haven’t had the spec problem experience you had, so I’m hoping that was a fluke.

      We will be contacting you in the future for a review on a new iron we have coming out, the Pinhawk SL. We have high hopes for this one. :)

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      John

      14 years ago

      I’ve been checking these out the past month or so. Thanks for doing the review!

      Reply

      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      More then welcome John.

      Reply

      bgolfing

      14 years ago

      It would be great if you reviewed some of Tom Wishon’s products. His smooth Series putters are the best feeling putter I have ever used.

      Reply

      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      Sent Tom an email this morning requesting one to review for you ;)

      Reply

      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      Got one coming on its way to review ;)

      Reply

      rob

      14 years ago

      MSG –
      First let me applaud you on one of the more thoughtful rating systems.
      I especially appreciate the “Spec Check” category – You read so often about a company weaking/strengthing lofts, drivers off from stated loft that this information gives added reason to have your irons checked for spec’s.
      Hireko / Jeff Summitt appear to have made commitment these past two years (Acer Xk’s/Golf Digest/ Sleeper) to present golfers affordable alternatives w/ performance and quality features.

      Glad to see you paying attention to companies other than the major OEM’s who offer value over name.

      rob

      Reply

      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      Rob- thanks! Glad you like the new review system.

      We have not fully unveiled the complete system yet but in the next few reviews you will start to see what we have come up with for you guys.

      Reply

      Will

      14 years ago

      I’ve done some spec-checks of my own with 2 mizuno sets that I have come across and they were dead on. It’s was kind of refreshing…swing weights were off but that’s a product of being a gram or two off at the head which is pretty tough to make the tolerance any tighter

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      matt

      14 years ago

      they look good, but the 3 degree difference in the three iron would worry me a lot. The price is also extremely awesome, but i still couldnt get past that spec problem.

      Reply

      mygolfspy

      14 years ago

      This is an issue with almost every component company out there…Dynacraft (Hireko) is not alone. They do offer a good deal and also 100% custom fitting so as long as you make sure they spec your clubs you can get a good offer many times.

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      GolfSpyT

      14 years ago

      The 3 degree discrepancy was an eye opener for me. Future reviews will feature the full implementation of SpecCheck, and I’m really curious to see how OEM clubs will fare.

      Reply

      matt

      14 years ago

      I agree about the OEM clubs, that is something that people dont usually think about when they buy taylormade, callaway, titelist, etc. Im sure a review featuring OEM clubs could make some people think a little bit more when they buy their clubs.

      Dr Bill Easson

      14 years ago

      I have played golf for 55 years, handicap of plus one at one time, currently 4 handicap. I have tried all sorts of clubs over the years and currently own 19 (yes, 19 ) sets of irons. The best of these, by far are the Dynacraft Prophet Tour, which I have in 3 – SW, with microstep regular shafts. They are much better in feel and flight than Ping, Mizuno, MacGregor, Golfsmith and the other irons I own. I do agree, though that the grooves are VICIOUS and really destroy a ball’s cover in only a couple of shots. I’m thinking of getting to work with a file!
      The other disappointmnet is that the black finish is wearing off, particularly on the six iron, which seesm to have poorly finishe from the outset.
      Overall, though, a marvellous sert of irons – I’m disposing of all my other irons, which were accumulated in efforts to find “the perfect set of irons”. I have found it now, certainly for feel and performance, which are the only factors to matter.

      Reply

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