So What Now, Wilson?
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So What Now, Wilson?

So What Now, Wilson?
“Yeah, Wilson certainly isn’t TaylorMade, but then again, there was a time when TaylorMade wasn’t Wilson, either.”

In Part I of this three part Wilson sereies MyGolfSpy’s Forum Director, John Barba, reviewed the decline and fall of the Wilson Golf brand. Part II examined Wilson’s “reboot” since 2007, its reorganization and its R&D efforts. Today, in this final installment, John looks at how Wilson uses its Tour Staff and just who, and what, this iconic brand is all about.

Written By: John Barba

My buddy Scott is one of “those guys.” When you mention the “G-word” his head pops up like a prairie dog’s. He’s a 5 handicap and while I wouldn’t call him a club “ho,” he is showing promise. While discussing my Wilson visit I shared some thoughts on their latest equipment. His response?

“But, it’s Wilson.”

Scott’s 40. His only Wilson memory is of Chevy Chase’s gamers in “Caddyshack” reruns. For those who came of age in the mid-90’s or later, serious golfers played Titleist, Callaway, Ping, or TaylorMade.

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Not Wilson.

In Scott’s world, Wilson doesn’t make serious golf equipment. They make toys, because in Wal-Mart, the sporting goods department and toy department are side-by-each. Wilson’s late-90’s to mid-2000’s strategy to move away from the Tour and from premium equipment to instead focus on lower-priced clubs for recreational golfers certainly encouraged that mindset.

That explains how you end up in a $15 million hole with a 0.6% share of a market you once dominated.

Wilson Back On Tour

Wilson Golf GM Tim Clarke says re-establishing the brand on Tour was one of his priorities to kick-start “Wilson 2.0,” and Padraig Harrington’s 3 majors in ’07-’08 were critical in validating the brand. Today, Clarke says it’s about having the “right” Tour guys.

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“We don’t pay the most, I can tell you that. That’s not our model,” explains Clarke. “A kid like (new Wilson Staffer) Brendan Steele – he could have signed anywhere. He was a Titleist guy. We get people who want to be part of something different. Ricky (Barnes), Kevin (Streelman), Padraig and now Brendan – that’s why they come. It’s not because I have the biggest checkbook in the world.”

“Trust me, there’s a lot bigger money for those guys to go get. They gotta love the equipment, they gotta love what the brand is doing and they gotta feel like they can win. And the money has to be in the ballpark.” Tim Clarke, Wilson Golf

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Both Streelman and Harrington have re-upped with Wilson. R&D Director Michael Vrska says another Touring Pro, as yet unnamed, may soon join the Wilson stable.

“He’s been playing (our V4 irons and V4 Utility Irons) for a month now,” says Vrksa. “We haven’t paid him a penny. He could play any irons he wants, but he chose ours.  That’s not because I told him to do it, I’ve never met the guy…He did it because he looked at a bunch of irons and he loved ours. He knows Kevin, tried his and said ‘Wow, how good is this!’”

Does Success on Tour Sell Stuff?

“Yeah, Majors do,” says Clarke. “Regular Tour wins validate your brand and what you’re doing. You go from a position where we didn’t do a lot of things right and maybe lost some of the faith of consumers, tour wins are helping us climb that mountain. Someone says ‘Wilson is a boxed-set company?’ Well, we have 3 Tour wins this year (Streelman in Hartford, finishing with 7 birdies in a row, Marcel Siem on the European Tour and Harrington this month in Indonesia) with our FG Tour irons. I’m proud of that.”

As any MyGolfSpy reader knows, brands have their lovers and their haters. I asked Clarke which brand he looks to as a model.

“I have the ultimate respect for Ping. Ping has done it slow and steady,” says Clarke. “I respect how they run their business. The Solheims do an unbelievable job protecting their portfolio and managing that brand. If I was to look at a company doing it the way I wish we would have done it, and in some ways how we’re trying to do it now, it would be Ping.

“They’re very disciplined. They watch where they sell their stuff, they focus on the high end and they have very loyal tour staff, which we’re starting to accomplish.”

The 2015 Lineup

Wilson’s 2015 offering features the new D200 irons, metal woods and hybrids as well as the FG Tour V4 irons (an update to the V2 irons, one of MyGolfSpy’s highest rated irons ever) and V4 Utility irons. Last year’s M3 irons and FG 100 blades remain, in keeping with Wilson’s commitment to 2-year product cycles.

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“D helps any golfer hit it further,” says Clarke. We have the Feel, which is what our Tour players play, and the Control is kinda the crossover…Most consumers get that immediately. We can get you into the right equipment fast without a whole lot of marketing mumbo-jumbo. It’s F, C and D. It’s simple.”

Vrska adds driver development will be a top Wilson priority moving forward.

“It’s a halo product,” Vrska says. “If golfers like your driver then suddenly your irons taste better. There’s no tangible correlation but there is a mental correlation…we need (great drivers) for our Tour players (Barnes, Streelman and Steele do not game Wilson drivers), and as your driver sales increase suddenly your wedge sales increase, your irons sales increase and people want matching fairway woods to go along with it.”

“We’ve had stores that do independent testing say our D200 irons are the best iron they’ve ever tested in their (game improvement) category. And the D200 driver is the 2nd best driver they’ve ever tested, period. We didn’t even know they were testing. They just used samples that were rattling around in the back of the salesman’s car.” – Michael Vrska, Wilson Golf

Step Into the “Right Light”

Wilson continues promoting the “right light” with the D200’s. Vrska says it reflects a growing trend on tour – lighter head weights and shaft weights.

“That’s something we believe in not just for D (Distance) players, but for all players. We’re looking over the past 10-15 years to today (on Tour) – we got some interesting data on how much lighter drivers and fairway woods have gotten, how hybrids are just a little lighter. Irons are pretty much the same but maybe a little lighter and wedges not at all. We started to think how that would benefit the average golfer.

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“If I give you a Wilson driver, or a company X or company Y driver, your swing won’t change. You won’t suddenly get on your left side better and start swinging like Rory or Padraig or Kevin. So how are you getting those 1, 2 or 3 MPH swing speed increases? It has to be the weighting of the club.” – Michael Vrska, Wilson 

“The ‘right light’ is a way for us to make clubs as light as possible, but still have the sound, feel, launch and spin to maximize distance. It’s not a race to the bottom. You can make clubs too light…you can’t get mass inside the head and you lose performance.”

“We touted (the right light) in our D100 line, which was a huge success. With D200 – we’re obviously in pre-books and don’t start shipping until January – but we’re up over double-digits in percentages. (We’ve added) adjustability to the D200 driver, the ‘Speed Sole’ technology to the irons, with CT’s in the 230’s, which is really incredible. We really feel there’s a weight that lets players swing it faster, and we’re going to continue to push that.”

D100’s a Success. The M3’s? Not So Much…

“There was a slight flaw in the sound,” says Clarke of last year’s FG Tour M3 driver. “We got consumer feedback that the sound wasn’t right. We had retail partners saying they needed to get out of them because they weren’t moving, so we did discount them.

“Make no mistake, that’s painful for me. I would much rather have not done it, but they just didn’t do as well as we had hoped, plus the fact that everybody flushed drivers out in the summer – that killed us. All the new stuff that came out when M3 came out was already liquidated in June.

“You hate to call it a perfect storm, but you had a horrific spring in the Midwest and Northeast, so nobody’s stuff sold. You had TaylorMade discount aggressively, you had Callaway doing giveaways and we were trying to stay disciplined. It just didn’t work so we had to adjust to the market conditions.”

“When TaylorMade is discounting, they’re usually doing it to get something else in.  We did it out of respect for our business partners. I understand they can’t sit on inventory, and we needed to help them move through. (Taylormade’s discounting) is a tough game to follow. Over time is does catch up to you and we probably saw that this year with the backup of TaylorMade equipment at Dick’s.” – Tim Clarke, Wilson Golf

“2014 was an awfully hard golf year for drivers,” adds Vrska. “Everybody was discounting heavily and we just kinda got lost in the shuffle…Obviously Wilson is gonna lose on that and that’s okay. We want to make sure we’re good partners first and foremost to our customers – the golf public – and then second of all to our retail partners. They have an opportunity (to make up for discounted pricing on M3) with golf balls or other products, different mix and match ways to make them whole. We didn’t want to cause them problems as maybe has happened in the past from other people.”

Feeding The 4-Headed Monster

Comparitively small budget marketing has its challenges, and it’s a four-way balance.

“You gotta have distribution, right?” explains Clarke. “If I don’t have distribution and I don’t have consumer demand, I’m in trouble.  So I gotta get distribution and I gotta get consumer demand. So we move big ad packages through Golf Channel, which helps our distribution and our ‘Pro’ image and our sales.”

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“Then I gotta get to the retail person who maybe hasn’t seen us in a while. I gotta get the floor staff trained on our stuff when they do get it because they haven’t sold it in a while. Then I gotta get it validated, so I gotta have Tour staff. It’s a 4-headed monster and you’re constantly balancing that mix as your business changes.

“Are we where we want to be in distribution? No. But do we have more doors today than when we had 0.6% market share? Absolutely!”

Epilogue:

So after two days meeting virtually everyone there was to meet from Wilson’s business side, I came away learning one thing:

After all this time, I finally “get” Wilson Golf.

Wilson Sporting Goods is a $600 million spoke in the multi-billion dollar Amer Sports wheel.

Wilson Golf 2.0, on its own, is a small company – roughly ⅕th the size of Wilson Sporting Goods. And it’s being run as a small company, with all the budgetary constraints one would expect of a $120 million outfit. For Wilson, “one-golfer-at-a-time” isn’t just a catchphrase, it’s a fact of life.

“We talk ‘one-guy-at-a-time’ all the time,” says Clarke. “We love all-company demo days – they’re our favorite. You know, play ‘em all! You think Ping is a better iron? Go hit it. And them come back here.”

“There were a few years, around 2002, 2003, where going to an all-company demo day was not a good thing for us. Now, you give an all company day and you give me a fair assessment of how our product performs? I’ll put ours up against anybody. And that’s a nice place to be in this business”  – Tim Clarke, Wilson Golf

“We did a retail event with Kevin Streelman last week,” adds Clarke. “There’s this young kid there, on his high school golf team. Nice, nice kid. He sees Kevin and Kevin tells him (the Wilson V4’s) are the best clubs he’s ever played. The kid brought his competitive set to compare, but says the V4’s look great.

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“Kevin goes ‘hey, how did you get here?’ The kid says ‘I’m with my Mom, she’s over there.’ Kevin says ‘You follow me to my house, I’ve got an extra set of Wilson FG’s I’ll let you take and play.’

“So Kevin brought the young man in his car, with Mom following, to his house and Kevin gave him his extra set of irons. Those are the types of things we’re really proud of. They don’t change the world, but those are the one-at-a-time moments. That kid had the experience of a lifetime. Hey, hopefully he’ll end up a Wilson fan and play Wilson the rest of his life. Maybe he won’t, but it was an unbelievable gesture by a world-class guy that’s also a world-class golfer and part of our family. And that’s the Wilson brand.”

So Who Is Wilson?

Wilson isn’t one of the “big boys” at the dance – when you’re pushing barely 3% market share you’re not the big boy anywhere. But when you look at Wilson Golf realistically – as a 7-year-old reboot of a 100-year-old brand – you can start to understand who they are and, as Clarke says, what they stand for.

Can they spend big bucks on top-name tour stars?

No, they can’t.

Can they pour huge piles of cash into advertising in every golf magazine and buy out all the back-nine ads on Master’s Sunday?

Nope.

And can they create a gargantuan marketing machine to bombard you with multi-media artillery promising 17 more yards or #ridonkulong distance?

Not anytime soon.

But those are things you’ve told us you don’t like in a manufacturer.

I doubt you’ll hear any crazy distance claims from Wilson Golf, and they have a fiscally sound strategy for spending on Tour players. Wilson’s R&D budget is, by my math, roughly 3.5% of sales, which is the same ratio as Callaway’s. And they’re running a lean business operation while showing slow, steady growth in a very down golf economy.

And they’re now turning a slight profit.

If they were named “Watson” instead of “Wilson,” and started from scratch in 2007, what would you think?  You can judge Wilson Golf anyway you wish: irrelevant former dynasty, former dynasty on the comeback trail, or a small company making interesting equipment at pretty good price points.

Take your pick. All three are probably accurate.

But if the big names in the industry turn you off, and you’re sick of #ridonkulong, 17 more yards or ads claiming the longest, biggest or #1 choice on Tour, well, you have options.

Wilson 2.0 is a small equipment manufacturer hacking its way through the golf industry jungle. Everyone I spoke with is proud of Wilson’s hits yet frank and candid about their misses and the lessons learned.

Clarke spoke of ebbs and flows in business, and Wilson Golf has certainly ebbed and flowed the past 30 years. But it was Doug Thiel, Wilson Golf’s Global Marketing Director, who put those ebbs and flows into perspective.

“Yeah, Wilson certainly isn’t Taylormade,” says Thiel. “But then again, there was a time when TaylorMade wasn’t Wilson, either.”

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      John

      4 years ago

      Bought the D7s and utility irons. Beautiful! Powerful! Forgiving! Strokes Gained!

      Looking at putters, balls, and bags now.

      Tried the D7 driver, it was good, but not as good as SIM. However, it is best value driver on market hands down.

      Reply

      Joseph R. Seda

      4 years ago

      Can you also identify the original model name/number of the Wilson ProStaff club set I purchased from Sports Authority, several years ago? The complete set includes:
      o Driver
      o 3-wood
      o 5-wood
      o 3-hybrid
      o 4-hybrid
      o 5-iron
      o 6-iron
      o 7-iron
      o 8-iron
      o 9-iron
      o Pitching Wedge

      While researching the MYGOLFSPY web site, I saw a popup regarding trading up to a set of either the Wilson FG Tour V6 or D7 Forged irons. However, I don’t know the actual identity of my set. I’m ready to make an informed switch, either through a 3rd party vendor or Wilson Sporting Goods directly. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

      Can you also identify the original model name/number of the Wilson ProStaff club set I purchased from Sports Authority, many years ago? The complete set includes:
      o Driver
      o 3-wood
      o 5-wood
      o 3-hybrid
      o 4-hybrid
      o 5-iron
      o 6-iron
      o 7-iron
      o 8-iron
      o 9-iron
      o Pitching Wedge

      Thank you!

      Reply

      Robert Grijalva

      4 years ago

      I think the right marketing campaign will make the difference for market share. I’m available to work on that team! Here’s a strategy
      When you think golf think WILSON the King of sports. For over 100 years Wilson has been the epitome of professional sports world wide. No other brand has more championships crowns,ever! WILSON GOLF. Wilson For Life

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      Darren H.

      7 years ago

      Awesome read of a company that deserves being acknowledged for history, technology and contribution to the game of golf. Wilson was THE brand to play in the 60s and 70s, their forged blades were legendary! In 1996 I bought a set of Staff RMs fitted to me and I still consider them the pinnacle blend of playability and design, despite being produced during the so-called “dark years”.

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      dag alfheim

      7 years ago

      I have played wilson fg 59s for years and wilson fg tour ball…like a hot knife in butter…perfection great article…how the fg tour ball never became popular is a mystery to me

      Reply

      Ledhead

      8 years ago

      I started playing Golf 3 years ago using a set of WS X31 forged blades which have been very difficult for a new golfer. So I finally got some scratch together and tried several Irons I tried but came upon a good deal on some new 2015 DI11’s last week, I love them talk about way easier to hit. Compared to a comparable Taylormade RBZ or Aeroburner, fit and finish were superior on the DI11’s. Thanks Wilson Staff!

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      bob e

      8 years ago

      I use the M3 black forged irons with the 95 stiff graphite shafts. the shafts probably are too stiff in the 4,5,6 iron
      range but the clubs are beautiful . When i got them out of the box I could feel the balance straight away. They look
      bad to the bone with the aldila phenom skull shaft.. It is just too cool. A decent club builder myself,
      I could tell the quality was outstanding. It is a bit of work to make a forged club these days,
      but if you have ever floated a FG Tour ball down on a green you’ll find out why every tour player uses a forged club.
      All your senses peak to elation. Almost rapture, listening to the thud of the ball. The 100 anniversary blades are so beautiful I am gonna buy a set, when I get the jack, just to have them, they are exquisite.
      I very much enjoyed the 3 part article on W/S. I am proud to use these clubs & balls. The W/S tradition also
      helps make my swing the envy of everyone on the range ..

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      Andy

      8 years ago

      Very interesting article. I bought Taylormade irons and Ping driver last summer because I could not find any Wilson’s to demo. I play out of two private clubs and neither of them have Wilson at their demo days or any ability to get demo clubs. Wilson needs to put on a full court press aimed at demo days and club pros. I know some Club Pros are on staff because I recently saw a Wilson shop while playing at a public course in CA, but on the East Coast they are nonexistent.

      As one of the first guys to play the Duo at my main course I was ribbed for weeks, but is was worth it to play a great old name. I own a brand new set of 1962 Wilson fluid feel blades and persimmon woods that have never touched a ball and would love to add a playable set to my colection.

      good luck

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      Ken

      9 years ago

      Many years ago I saw a used set of Staff mid size irons with fire stick shafts. They felt great,
      but I wanted new clubs. It took a lot of searching, but I found a golf shop that carried Wilson.
      The clubs are great, I still have them. I added a Staff 7 wood, and a FYbred. I took some lessons last year and when the pro saw my clubs, he couldn’t believe I was still using them. He said he had worked for Wilson years ago and they hadn’t made a good club in years. After reading some reviews of the Wilson staff Irons, I went to the PGA store(they carry Wilson) and hit the D200 irons. I was really impressed and think I’m going to buy them. I also play the Duo ball. I’m glad to see Wilson getting back in the game.

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      Dave Begley

      9 years ago

      Im really glad Wilson have made a comeback. I recently acquired a set of Wilson snead irons given to me by a friend for nothing. They are are semi-blades and the grips were shot so I regripped them myself with golf pride multi compound grips.Well,I took them out for spin and just coulnt believe how accurate they were.Im from Ireland and my Dad was on a Barton Cup winning team in 1962. He had a set of Wilson forged irons, when he couldn’t play golf anymore there was a rush of pros to buy them. He sold them for a lot of money, quality always survives time. Im now looking at the D200 driver as I have started to slow down a bit myself.
      Regards Dave Begley

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      Vin

      9 years ago

      How can I like Wilson no golf store will carry their clubs and when you call corporate office and tell them you would ike to demo a club you get nowhere. Guess Wilson is happy to sell outside of the states

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      x-15a2

      9 years ago

      I admit that it’s hard to find W/S clubs in a lot of shops, hopefully that will improve. it’s true what you say about getting info about golf products when you call corporate office, it’s clear that golf is a minor part of the company and customer service isn’t equipped to answer consumer questions about golf products. Last year I wanted to buy new W/S branded grips for my ci7 irons, was never able to find out where to locate them for purchase.

      That said, I’m still a big W/S fan and hope that they prosper in the future.

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      Paul

      9 years ago

      I hear you Vin. Other golf shops (and Big Box) don’t carry the brand. However, I carry Wilson Staff in my golf store and it is my number one selling brand. This is because I have customers who understand the value of their golf equipment and are keen to the fact that a properly designed, custom built and fit club (for their swing) will out perform the hype and marketing of the other top selling and more marketed brands. I own Hunt Golf in Mebane, NC. I would be glad to help you anytime with your golfing needs. I also provide a full value guarantee on Wilson Staff products and my fittings. I don’t charge extra for custom fitting irons and I ship when necessary for the customer. Contact me or come by. I’ll be glad to help.

      Jim

      7 years ago

      Just went through a fitting for ping, by a local pro. I bought my last set of clubs from him years ago. Full set of Ping G5 and “I” irons, plus wedges. I am now retired and thinking of buying a new set of clubs. I wanted to see if my swing speed had changed etc. My swing speed was 91 and somehow has increased to 96. Probably equipment or improved swing. I started with a set of Wilsons sometime around the 1980’s. I wasn’t very good and would not have known any difference in any of the clubs. I knew nothing about golf. I am now an honest 10 handicap. The local fitter recommends the G series of Ping and staying with the stiff shaft. I am telling you all this because I have no idea what Wilson Clubs I should look at and quite frankly would not trust what I was told at a Dicks sporting store. Just being honest. If you have information you feel wold let me know if Wilson may be a possibility I would appreciate it. I am in Tn. Thanks, Jim McGrady. I live on the Lake Tansi Golf Course in Crossville Tn.

      Keith Wilson

      8 years ago

      Go to Dicks

      bill

      9 years ago

      It was indeed heartwarming to read all 3 of your installments about Wilson golf.I’m old enough to remember when they were a big player (no pun intended) in the market.I liked the Fatshaft irons and whale driver. The driver wasn’t my cup of tea for some reason but a buddy of mine just absolutely SMOKED that stick & as far as I know still plays it. He did find another one and bought that too. I wish them continued success, it would really nice to see them come back…..

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      Joe

      9 years ago

      In my 58 yrs experience, you meet,see,hear so many CEO/Presidents with varying perspectives and personalities. Many in it for themselves, some stand out as visionaries. This guy may or may not be a visionary but by seems like the guy Wilson needs. I think following the Karsten Ping model is brilliant. (D200 irons are big, so are Karsten and G30?). What an intelligent, honest read. Wilson 2.0 has my respect and will be following closely. Try numerous irons (14 hp). Play D100 and love them. Just bought D200.

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      Steve

      9 years ago

      I’ve just started taking golf seriously the last couple of years and am very happy with my Ci’s and D100’s. Southern California hacker

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      Kevin

      9 years ago

      Well written. Actually tried the Wilsons after reading this and was shocked and how good they felt and looked.

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      Mike

      9 years ago

      Great series of articles…To your point about demo days…I have happily been a Ping guy for a very long time and had decided on the G30’s…My brother calls and wants to spend some quality time at a local demo day…While he is playing the field I walk by the Wilson tent and feeling nostalgic thought why not…My very first set ever were Wilson Johnny Miller’s…I was handed the D100’s…Hit four balls and had to look at the club to make sure it was a 7 iron…Hit four more and turned to see my brother smiling…After an even dozen my brother says “you can’t leave without them”…I didn’t…and neither did he…Great price…They even had the Wilson Tour truck there and custom built them so we could take them along home…Even threw in a bag…and a hybrid!!!…Wow…I’ve been preaching Wilson ever since…And so now I’ve come full circle heading into retirement golf…Thanks Wilson…

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      Joe Picciolo

      9 years ago

      Loved the Wilson series. Tim Clarke, you are on the right track however I would suggest you and your team consider some cross-marketing campaigns to pull Wilson’s core loyalists that use Wilson Tennis rackets, Footballs, Baseball Gloves and Bats etc. over to golf. Being an avid Wilson Tennis racket player for 35 years I understood the importance of Wilson’s R & D. When the time came to hang up the tennis racket for the clubs I went right to Wilson Golf Clubs. I believe you have a tremendous following that you can tap into to help build-back the Wilson Golf Name.
      I play with the DI series irons, D-100 Driver, the Augusta Putter and even a Wilson NFL, Green Bay Packers golf bag. I LOVE WILSON, their culture and their products and wish you the best of success in your building process.
      “A Loyal Southern California Supporter”

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      Joe Picciolo

      9 years ago

      Loved the Wilson series. Tim Clarke, you are on the right track however I would suggest you and your team consider some cross-marketing campaigns to pull Wilson’s core loyalists that use Wilson Tennis rackets, Footballs, Baseball Gloves and Bats etc. over to golf. Being an avid Wilson Tennis racket player for 35 years I understood the importance of Wilson’s R & D. When the time came to hang up the tennis racket for the clubs I went right to Wilson Golf Clubs. I believe you have a tremendous following that you can tap into to help build-back the Wilson Golf Name.
      I play with the DI series irons, D-100 Driver, the Augusta Putter and even a Wilson NFL, Green Bay Packers golf bag. I LOVE WILSON, their culture and their products and wish you the best of success in your building process.
      “A Loyal Southern California Supporter”

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      Edoardo

      9 years ago

      Man, this is such a great read! Well done guys! I look forward to reading results of your 2015 driver test to see how WS performs, actually I am holding on my purchase because I kinda give your test the most credibility out there!

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      RJM

      9 years ago

      Would love to see another manufacturer pick up on this technology. Owned a set of Fat Shafts the tecnology works, will keep my eyes open.

      Reply

      Paul Hunt

      9 years ago

      I play Wilson Staff irons and use Wilson FG Tour Wedges. I like the feel, the shot shapability and distance control of the forged irons. I own and operate a golf shop that carries all the major brands of golf equipment. My number one selling brand of equipment is Wilson Staff. I have a customer base that is willing to try any equipment that will improve their game. Your articles about Wilson are spot on and I applaud you for telling their story. Wilson’s new marketing slogan should either be “Play WIlson, these aren’t your Daddy’s clubs, they’re better!” or “Wilson, come home again”.
      Thanks and play well.

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      JimS

      9 years ago

      The original Fat Shaft was designed so that it could be replaced by any .370 shaft. It was designed with low torque( for forgiveness) and more flex because players use shafts that are to stiff.
      Now that the patent has run out I heard that one of the major manufactures is coming out this year with a progressive set of irons with variable diameter shafts.

      Reply

      Greg

      9 years ago

      Great series of articles. Rooting for them.

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      Vince Schiavo

      9 years ago

      Loved the story of Kevin Streelman and the high school player…what a class-act Streelman is!

      Reply

      SirShives

      9 years ago

      Love that Wilson Staff is making a comeback. I bought a set of Di9 irons a couple of years back and love them. The Duo ball is fantastic. I read today on another site that Wilson is offering free Duo balls at all major retailers on January 24. Would be a great chance to give them a try if you haven’t already. Keep up the good work Mr. Clark!

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      Walt Pendleton

      9 years ago

      Good news about Wilson. In 1969 they made a set of X-31 irons for three or four years that were off the hook! That series of irons were as good as any set of irons ever made for feel and ball flight control, both ways! Frankly, I’d buy a set today… if they could retro the look with the same feel using 21st century technology. Hogan’s Apex irons in 78′ – their 25 year anniversary set, was also in a league by itself during those pre-Ping days.

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      labillyboy

      9 years ago

      I’d love to see Wilson products on the market again.

      This all reminds me of the downfall of the Hogan brand under Geoff Gorman and Bill Goodwin. A similar story, great irons, wedges, no drivers or other successes. First it was a quality issue when they pulled manufacturing out of Fort Worth and moved it to an empty AMF factory Goodwin had lying around… the local $7 an hour folks didn’t put as much love into making golf clubs as the experienced team in Ft. Worth… heads flew… literally… they were coming off because they were not attached properly… Eventually this faded but did result in a move back to Ft. Worth in a too little, too late move…

      in the meantime, Hogan too had a tiny ad budget 3 tour players (thanks to Ronnie McGraw) Kite, Brooks and Leonard. They got a major, (Brooks, PGA 1996) had probably the best rated irons (GCD Tour, GCD) among all manufacturers and probably the best wedges competing nicely with Cleveland and Titleist.

      So Gorman decides to go into balls… a 1 year experiment, apparel ($80 shirts) and a Driver and fairway woods (GCD)… He bet the farm on a custom fitting program (Medallion) that was a colossal flop. Neglecting the development of the GCD/Edge iron franchise they had nothing new to offer that anyone wanted to buy except wedges. This led to Goodwin deciding to sell the company to Top Flite and later to Callaway where the only remnant of the once proud Hogan brand is the word “Apex” on one of their iron sets…

      Even with the best sales team in the industry, retailers just couldn’t move the product without advertising air cover, big tour endorsements and promotion.

      Hogan’s last gasp was when Edge irons were the first forged cavity backed product and were in high demand, the company could not deliver on the demand and made some bad decisions on sourcing and quality. (pinned shafts, remember that?)

      Clarke would be wise to familiarize himself with this case study… if Gorman is still around they should have lunch.

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      Fozcycle

      9 years ago

      Great article John, Recently, my club’s pro shop put the M3 Driver on sale for $130 and 3 woods on sale for $80………My golf buddy was using a 5 yr old Acer so he got both the M3’s…..He is currently an 8 hcp and absolutely Loves the Wilson’s. His drives are much longer and his 3 wood is very straight. As for the sound, it is not annoying. The old Cobra LD’s were much worse. The M3 is actually an all right club. Wilson might tweak it a bit, but they should be able to keep it.

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      Nic

      9 years ago

      Good luck to Wilson!

      I currently play Wilson FG 62 irons and they’re certainly a beautiful club. Occasional outings too for various sets stored in the loft. These include Dynapower from 1966 and Bullet-backs from ’69. The 69 bullet-backs are stunning. Butter-soft feel with aluminium shafts and stitch back leather grips.
      Be lovely if Wilson continue their resurgence. The FG V4 utility irons look great. I’ll definitely have a look at them when they’re stocked in the UK.

      Yoursinglof!
      N

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      Bob

      9 years ago

      The one gripe I have with Wilson is the whole “forged, 8620 carbon steel” spiel. I mean, if you don’t want to do forged irons, then don’t. I’m not going to go into the forged vs. cast debate, but that statement is just disingenuous.

      Good articles, though.

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      Bob

      9 years ago

      Late last season I bought a set of D-100 irons with the Matrix Studio shafts. I work for Golf Town and have access to every brand on the N. American market. The irons are outstanding in forgiveness, feel, distance control, and helped me win our A Flight CC with rounds of 70-79.

      I highly recommend Wilson products and sold three sets of the irons in the last four weeks.

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      drjacko

      9 years ago

      I like the no holds barred approach that everyone took to produce this article. I wonder if at the back of Wilson’s R+D/Marketing there is someone trying to still corner the masses.

      Because the Duo actually fits this category very well.

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      BallBuster

      9 years ago

      Great set of articles. Wilson always had the combination of greatness and cheesiness. While they were a fixture at Wal-Mart, they always had top notch stuff too. As an avid tennis player too, they revolutionized the power game with the Profile widebody that had some resistance due to looks, but no one could argue that power it bought to the game. Principles from that still go on today in racquets. A lot of top pros (Roger Federer and more) all use their product. Its good to see pros moving to them to re-ignite their status at the top level.

      Just like the Profile, I was intrigued by the Fat Shafts. As a design engineer it embodies a lot of game inprovement physical dynamics during a downswing, but like the Profile, turned off a lot of people. I was happy with my set of clubs so I never got a set, but a friend of mine picked up a used set 3 years ago and he loves them and has improved his iron game with them in all phases. He won’t switch now. I hit their newer ones in pro shops and may move the Wilson way myself some day.

      Wilson has always been a leader in innovation and pro line equipment in all sports. God for them to make a comeback in the golf world.

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      Craig

      9 years ago

      As a kid growing up in the 80’s I used to dream and drool over Wilson blades, they were what real players used.

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      jesse

      9 years ago

      Just about to get D100 3 wood, had a trial go and loved it, very solid through the shot. As soon as Wilson come up with a driver that feels solid and gives me confodence when holding it like my Titliest 913 I will trade it in mark my words. Also waiting for the V4 utility 2iron to come on to the floor.

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      tomuch23

      9 years ago

      Little to strong on the Tmag hate imo but it was a interesting read looking at the inside of Ws. Most golf oems ride the bs marketing train but golf needs those companies and vice versa.

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      Darren Tan

      9 years ago

      I have the Nexus bag and also the Duo balls.
      Got them both because of MGS reviews and love them a lot.
      Would love to try their other stuff but it’s really tough finding a decent demo in Singapore.

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      Ryan

      9 years ago

      When I fit people, I always try to give every company a couple of swings with the model that should work best. While Wilson is usually in the running, especially in super game improvement area, the customers rarely end up choosing them. I do believe that a big part of it is name recognition, but I did mention to our rep that the Wilson fitting system is extremely clunky. Many of the people don’t like to look down at something like that even during a fitting. A sleeker fitting system would go a long way in improving the confidence in the brand to the consumers.

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      FTWPhil

      9 years ago

      I agree completely. Integrity goes hand-in-hand with first impressions.

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      John Barba

      9 years ago

      Thanks everyone for the kind words. Gotta say, my biggest takeaway was how frank and candid everyone I spoke with was. It was refreshing, and while I’m sure everyone was trying to put Wilson’s best foot forward, I never felt like I was getting a “line,” and they gave straightforward answers to every uncomfortable question I had. Both Tim Clarke and Michael Vrska offered considerable insight into today’s golf business climate and Tim especially shared where he thinks Wilson is strong and did not sugarcoat where he feels the company is week and needs to improve. On more than one occasion in our interview he said “that’s on me. I own that one…”

      The realistic picture – Wilson Golf is being run like a $120 million dollar company and plans to continue its slow and steady pace.

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      Kudos to you. One of the best written series/articles I’ve ever read on line on any subject. Plus your admiration for the Wilson guys came through the article, because they seem genuine and I for one will be keeping a closer eye on their products. Thanks

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      RevKev

      9 years ago

      Great job on this series. I purchased my fist set of Wilson Irons early this season, C100s, don’t sneer, I’m a 3 and these clubs are helping to keep me there, easy to hit, I can work them well enough, long, launch high, lots of custom options even factory lies to half degrees, can we say 1.5 flat!

      I’ve always been for the little guy, Ram (in the 70s), Ping before it was in the 80’s and 90’s (same set), Nicklaus in the 2000’s and 10’s and now Wilson…..

      I bag Adams hybrids but may have to look at the D100’s if they are coming down. :)

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      Tider992010

      9 years ago

      Great article. I would say that I really like the Wilson Staff Line. I’ve hit the irons and hybrids. No drivers but like the way they are developing again. Slow and steady always win the race.

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      Tom Duckworth

      9 years ago

      One of the takeaways for me from this series is how important it is to protect your integrity. The integrity of your product first and foremost and your integrity as a company. Take a look at a set of Wilson FG-17 irons from years ago they are some of the most beautiful blades ever made graceful and simple flowing lines. They still play great in the right hands. I had my set reshafted a couple of years ago and the club builder was gushing over how great they looked and how they felt. I still like to get them out from time to time when I’m feeling really on my game.
      I bought a set of the FG Tour V2 irons after reading your review and comparing them to about five or six other sets. Now I want to try the V4s although I don’t really need them but I’d like to see if they are a step forward. I’ll be looking forward to your review of them.
      Wilson has a great history I would like to see them play that up even more than they do now.
      Loved what Clarke said about Ping that was right on the money. Thanks for putting a spotlight on Wilson they deserve it.

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      Shane

      9 years ago

      I’m with ya RAT! The equipment definetly speaks for itself! Great that we are able to demo stuff at the local course! He’s always more than willing to get new products to let us try! I have the c100 irons, FG driver and the D100 driver that is a beast to say the least! Can wait till the 12th to get my hands on the new stuff! PLEASE, bring those head covers to retail!

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      Marty N

      9 years ago

      I’ll be the first to admit Wilson is never on my list of clubs to try.

      But I do recall last years local golf show, I was there hitting all the new clubs from all the major manufacturers. And saw the Wilson display. So I figured, why not. I hit 2 balls with their players iron (can’t recall the name), and stopped and looked at the bottom of the iron to confirm I was hitting a Wilson. It was surprising how nice it felt. When it’s time to buy new irons, I can’t say Wilson will be in the bag, but it will be on the list of testers. And that alone is a big step in the right direction, in my mind.

      Good luck to them and their future success!

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      Furu

      9 years ago

      Very good articles. Well done. Lots of information from Clarke and Vrska. They do like to talk a lot :)

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      Annsguy

      9 years ago

      Awesome series. Very well written. I am proud to say I started my journey in golf playing Wilson Staff. I will be playing it again soon. Already play their ball and bag.

      Reply

      willem

      9 years ago

      Wilson Staff is a Great company to work for, they have no attitude , and is driven by sales people who love the brand!
      Wilson Staff employees will walk the extra Mile to get the brand on the position they deserve in the golf industrie, and if we continue to make good products it could be happening quicker then you think .

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      What a great article and series. These guys really sound like they are going in the right direction. Sometimes slow and steady wins the race after all?

      I am also one of the guys they are tired of hearing all of the bs stuff. I went with Touredge for my driver, 3 wood and hybrid and I’m getting better numbers than I ever did with any other brand I’ve tried (and believe me, I’ve tried).

      Back to Wilson tough, the V2 irons look really good. I’d be so inclined to try them out but no demo days in my area have Wilson there. Maybe a good marketing strategy for them would be to visit the smaller areas that maybe the big boys don’t go to and try it there. I know Adams actually came to our golf club last season and they were a hit. I tried out a lot of different stuff and was really impressed.

      Good luck to Wilson though. I think Tim Clarke is the right guy for them. Very impressed by his answers and his outlook.

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      Steve Barry

      9 years ago

      I’m interested to know what course these photos were taken. It almost looks like Dinosaur Mountain in Arizona…

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      John Larson

      9 years ago

      Quintero northwest of Phoenix.

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      DG

      9 years ago

      No, it’s the Desert Mountain Club in north Scottsdale.

      RAT

      9 years ago

      Great articles on my favorite golf equipment company . I play the V2 irons , wedges , putter , hybrid , staff bag.I didn’t like the sound of the M3 either and didn’t make the purchase. I feel the company is in good hands and explains a lot of why things are the way they are. I have a friend who is a convert to Wilson due to just giving the stuff a try. We have a friend who owns a small 9 hole course and is a dealer of Wilson equipment ,”thank God”, so we feel special because he has our brand and will get demo’s asap for us try and always makes a sale from that demo. It’s guys like this that will be instrumental in getting Wilson back to the top. Personal relationships and trust in that he will do everything to help me and others get the best, one at a time. Looking forward to Jan.15 to demo the D200 equipment.!
      p.s. I want those head covers shown in the article!!!!

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      JB

      9 years ago

      Really great series. They have made and continue to make great clubs. I hope the perception starts to shift and folks give them a chance. The irons speak for themselves. I just purchased one of the M3 fairways and I hope it lives up to the expectations set by the M3 irons.

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      Sharkhark

      9 years ago

      Good read. They have produced allot of Walmart looking oversized stuff so their image took a hit. Hopefully they get back closer to the heyday of classic looking irons. Currently they only have the v 4

      Reply

      Mark

      9 years ago

      Actually they have the FG Tour 100s, V2s and M3 irons as well.

      Reply

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