Survey Results – What’s In Your Bag: Hybrids and Irons
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Survey Results – What’s In Your Bag: Hybrids and Irons

Survey Results – What’s In Your Bag: Hybrids and Irons

A few weeks ago we took a look at the clubs that occupy the driver and fairway wood slots in your bag. Today we’ll continue that with a closer look at what you guys carry for hybrids and wedges. We’ll look at how old those clubs are, as well as whether or not you have any designs on replacing them this season.

While I certainly found your feedback on drivers and fairway woods interesting, it’s likely today’s numbers that reveal the biggest difference between our readers and the average golf consumer.

Here’s What You Told Us

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It’s at least moderately interesting that Adams still occupies 23.67% of the available hybrid space in your collective bag. I would expect that number to slowly decline in the coming years. TaylorMade is a strong second (20.85%),while Titleist, PING, and Callaway all have respectable numbers (+/- 15%).

As we’ve seen in the past, Titleist and PING are steady across most categories, while Callaway has shown strong growth over the last couple of seasons.

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Based on the range we gave you to choose from, the average hybrid in your bag is 3.12 years old. That said, for 44% of you, the oldest hybrid in your bag is less than 2 years old.

Within the larger population, I suspect the average age is above 4 years, and it continues to amaze me that in 2015, 11.51% of you still don’t carry a single hybrid.

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Given that a sizable number of you already have relatively new hybrids, the fact that 67.87% of you said that you have no plans to purchase a new hybrid this season is anything but surprising.

We’re constantly inundated with stories of driver technology, iron technology, and fairly recently, fairway wood technology. Hybrid stories often fall through the cracks, although it’s worth mentioning that Callaway’s Ridonkulong campaign last year brought enough attention to the company’s X2 Hot hybrid that it outsold everything else in the category.

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This is one of the more surprising results within any survey we’ve ever conducted. As a general rule, our readers tend to be more brand aware (and less brandwashed) than the average golfer/golf consumer, but nevertheless, the Mizuno result borders on shocking.

In any given season Mizuno’s share of the total iron market is actually closer to half of the number (20.90%) reported by MyGolfSpy readers.

The bulk of that difference appears to come from TaylorMade (13.98%) and Callaway (12.29%) who together generally account for more than 40% of iron sales within the scope of the broader market.

On the other end, your reported usage of smaller brands like Miura (1.56%) and Wishon (1.08%) very likely exceed the percentage of the market as a whole, although it’s worth mentioning that the method OEMs use to track market share (Golf Datatech), doesn’t account for non-mainstream sales (independent club fitters), which likely account for a substantial percentage of sales for both brands.

Iron2

The average replacement cycle for irons is roughly 4.5 years. For you guys, the average is actually 2.64 years, which means you replace your irons nearly twice as often as the average consumer. Only 16.81% of you have irons older than 4.5 years.

Granted, there have been some notable advances in iron technology over the last several years, but I’d be curious to know what drives you to replace your irons at such an accelerated rate.

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Once again, considering that 26.92% of you have irons that are less than one year old, while another 27.62% have irons less than 2 years old, it’s not the least bit surprising that 75.35% of you told us you have no plans to replace your irons this season.

For the 16.94% of you that are on the fence, what’s the deciding factor? What irons are you considering.

More To Come

Check back soon when we take a closer look at the wedges and putters in  your bags.

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      Bill

      9 years ago

      There is no “end all” when it comes to irons. Mizuno is recognized as a quality iron (although their wedges and woods don’t have the the same reputation). Wilson has the same pedigree. Great irons, wedges and woods have a less fervent following. Is that perspective accurate?
      In my experience, I’d say there’s at least some truth to it.
      TM, Callaway, Ping, Titleist, Nike, Cobra, Cleveland/Srixon all make decent product that have Tour representation also. After playing Wilsons for the last 5 years (which took me into a single digit handicap for the first time after 40 years of playing) I switched to a fitted set of Wishon irons this year. No regrets, they play every bit as well as the others (I’ve hit just about everything along the way). My short game has deteriorated the last couple years so my handicap is up a few strokes. Practice and instruction tend to be far more important to my success than the club manufacturer. As I spend more time playing and working on my game, there’s a less than shocking relation to my scores dropping again. Equipment is fun to discuss as is argueing the merits of said clubs on forums such as this. But deep down we all know that for all but the top tour guys who play for a living that the time spent working on the game is the biggest factor for weekend warriors.

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      JC

      9 years ago

      I still don’t use a hybrid, although I have many. It comes down to this. I hit hybrids great on the range but have yet…and I mean ever…to hit a decent hybrid on the golf course. For whatever reason, as soon as I get on the golf course I can’t hit a hybrid for the life of me. I mean duck hooks, pull hooks, super fat shots slices, you name it. For that reason, even though I only hit my 4 Iron decently about 50% of the time, that is still 100% more good shots than I have ever hit with a hybrid. Oddly, I am quite good with a 5 wood and sometimes a 7 wood. Maybe it is in my head, but whenever people tell me hybrids are so much easier to hit I just haven’t had that experience. I know that based on my skills I should be playing several hybrids, but they just don’t work for me.

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      Michael

      9 years ago

      Further to the above, regarding the Mizuno replacement irons, they are JPX Fli Hi irons.

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      Tedd

      9 years ago

      You stated “there have been some notable advances in iron technology over the last several years”. Would you please elaborate on that statement please? I am aware of a few obvious advances such as oversized heads and cavity backs with lower center of gravity and perimeter weighting. I believe the real advances with irons began back in the early 90’s with Cobra’s King Cobra Oversize Irons and Wilson’s Staff Ultra 45 Irons as just two examples from that decade. Those examples are of iron head designs that were not the norm. One could argue (and be right) that Ping started it all in the late 60’s early 70’s. I really don’t see how much more they have advanced iron head design since most of what I’ve noticed is a lot of cosmetic crap that comes with lot’s of color’s and cavity inserts and busy looking heads with to much engravings. Recently Mizuno (JPX) has worked on thinning the club face and as always the manufactures keep decreasing the lofts to give the illusion of more distance. Any year now they will come out with a new PW-2 or GW-2. Before that monkey business started we didn’t need a hybrid (still don’t) because we have these lofts covered by our fairway woods i.e. 3-5-7 and our 5 iron on down covers the rest. Again, I am curious what you believe are the notable advances in irons over the last several years? Also, how far back do you mean by last several years? I understand why Mizuno is popular. It is an attractive looking head with clean lines and not a lot of in your face colors and engravings making the iron head looking like a billboard. They have a reputation for high quality forgings (aimed at better players) and have an aura of “class” and “sophistication” like Wilson had back in the 60’s. They hold their resale value quite well, better than most. One might say they are “Status Symbol” irons played by golfing snobs with a lot of money. For me, I think the Wilson Staff Ultra 45’s, Deep Red’s, Deep Red ll’s, and maybe the Di11’s in recent years, have gone about as far as anyone can go with irons head design as most anything since has been gimmicks and marketing. Again, I admit that the Mizuno JPX 850 irons are interesting and about the only iron design that has gained my attention in the last few years. There is a Japan company called Nakashima and another called Muira, that have some nice irons both cavity back and blades, and they have a reputation for high quality and fitting. However, these are for the most part for the better player, a lot like Mizuno is. I believe the real advances regarding irons the last few years has been in fitting, especially fitting the right shaft for your swing and clubs. I’ll look forward to your comments, thank you for you’re attention to this topic.

      Regards,

      Tedd

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      Michael

      9 years ago

      I am 80 years young and use Mizuno replacement irons with LL shafts 3 to 7 iron. There is no way I can hit a 3 or 4 blade iron consistently, but with the replacement irons they regularly hit straight and out of the middle. For the more senior golfer try these irons, they are remarkable. The price is worth it.

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      James

      9 years ago

      I agree with Greg. Mizuno results does not surprise. People who are serious and knowledgeable about golf equipment all know that Mizuno make high quality forged Irons and their current range caters for a bigger handicap range. The real mass market buy “perception” brands based on advertising spend and who they see playing with what brands. Phil plays Callaway so I buy Callaway. When this market reach a level of expertise and start to look for quality the migrate to brands like Mizuno. This is also the most likely golfer group that participated in the survey. In Europe Mizuno is still perceived as a quality brand and supported by a lot of the club pro’s. I live in South Africa and we get a lot of European visitors playing at out top courses and I am surprised every time to see how many play Mizuno irons.

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      Coomz

      9 years ago

      Oops….! That was meant to say “shot back to form”. Result of fat fingers and typing on an iPhone ;0)

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      Coomz

      9 years ago

      Oh and I forgot to mention. I have TM R9 TPs in my bag right now. They’ve been there for about 5 years as the pro at my club gave me a stupid deal on them. Before that I had been using Srixon I302 irons. They were in the bag for at least 6 years and I still wish I had them, they just got old and wore out. Best feeling (I’ve owned Mizuno) irons I’ve ever owned bar none. I feel they lost their way a little after the I302s but have definitely shit back to form with the new Z series.
      Whilst owning my Srixons I bought and sold and tried a host of irons off eBay and nothing compared. I was searching for something I already had in the bag.

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      Coomz

      9 years ago

      What shocked me looking at those results was the tiny percentage of people using Srixon and Brisgestone. I’ve been a club whore over the years and tried just about everything. And what I’ve learned is that those two brands are seriously underrated and underused. I swapped my Titleist hybrid out this season as I hated it and never hit a good shot with it. Got fitted on track man for a replacement and walked away with the Srixon H545. I’m not joking when I say the difference is night and day. In four rounds I’ve not hit a bad shot with it. Feels like a magic wand! Now I’m kicking myself that the Titleist sat in my bag for 5 years laughing at me.

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      This really does say something about the MGS readership. It’s definitely NOT a cross-section of the average golfer. I think we all knew that before this survey, but this really drives it home. Mizuno as the most common iron in the bag??! That’s extremely surprising. The average golfer is definitely not buying Mizuno irons at a higher rated than TM/Cally/Ping.

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      kloyd0306

      9 years ago

      The Mizuno result does not surprise.

      At a recent State Senior Amateur in the NW, at the end of the final round there were 41 bags parked near the scoreboard – 23 of them contained Mizuno irons.

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      Philippe Le Discord

      9 years ago

      Taylor made RAC TP MB an #2 iron Maxfli Australian Blade… You said “forgiving” ?
      LMFAO

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      Philippe Le Discord

      9 years ago

      Shaft X100 of course ^^

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      Miguel Torres

      9 years ago

      The cheapest crap i could find on ebay, which are, Cobra Amp Cell irons, got them new for $250 and my shots have the most beautiful flight, way better than all my buddies expensive shit.

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      Jim Trotchie

      9 years ago

      JPX 850 pros

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      Glen Johnson

      9 years ago

      callaway x22s still hard to beat

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      Glen Johnson

      9 years ago

      well there must be a lot of people bagging mizuno clubs with other drivers coz nobody!!! uses their drivers……no secret they’ve had killer irons for yrs

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      Anthony Santiago

      9 years ago

      Been a mizuno guy for more than a decade..

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      Greg

      9 years ago

      The Mizuno result doesn’t surprise me really when I think about it. I was working at a tournament here in Perth and the group I was scoring for had Bo Van Pelt in it. I had a good look in his bag. It was a Taylor Made bag with TMAG woods but his irons were all Mizuno blades. I fully expected to see TMAG irons but… There were a few other players that had other bags with that club makers woods but again Mizuno irons. It’s no secret that the Mizuno’s are a quality product and I game the MP 54’s.

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      Nicholas Hartley

      9 years ago

      The majority is playing something that doesn’t fit them. That’s the real disappointing fact.

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      Tony Brooks

      9 years ago

      Tim Von Stanke… checkout this little survey!

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      Innes Ireland

      9 years ago

      What a fantastic result for MIZUNO in the iron category. We sell truckloads of them.

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      Foster Atteberry

      9 years ago

      Cobra Bio Cell and SCOR wedges

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      Jason Hopkins

      9 years ago

      Adams CB1

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      David Williams

      9 years ago

      JPX 850 Forged

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      Rick Mead

      9 years ago

      Titleist AP2 710 or my backup set of Ben Hogan Apex Edge.

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      Ryan Holcomb

      9 years ago

      Tour Department Scratch Sb-1s. Design the shape you want and not some generalized mass market jack of all trades master of none iron.

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      Jamie McCormack

      9 years ago

      Honma Tw 717

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      George Pooney

      9 years ago

      Apex pro

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      RB

      9 years ago

      Another way to look at the results: We bought Mizuno irons. We love them. We are not planning on replacing them, now or the future (or ever, for that matter, for me).
      I really like my Mizuno wedges, too.
      Hybrids? I have my Mizuno irons.
      Okay, I have a driver, but if need to play it safe off the tee, it’ll be my Mizuno 3 iron.

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      Curtis Dellapenta

      9 years ago

      just new one tour edge cb pro! its so nice! oh well.. also not yet with hybrid w taylor made golf… :) jsut for my early birthday.. oh well.. ;)

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      Simon H

      9 years ago

      My regular 4 ball is 2 x Ping and one each for TM and Mizuno, and my last 4 sets in order are;

      Ping G30 – 1 year and counting
      TM RocketBladez Tour – 2 months
      Mizuno MP52 – 5 years
      Ping i3+ Blade – 6-7 years

      I should point out that the TM irons were bought off flea bay and were too upright which is why they didn’t last, not because they were terrible.

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      Aaron Thompson

      9 years ago

      Ping please

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      Glenn Lickness

      9 years ago

      I will only play Wilson staff and wedges from now on! The quality, the feel! Everything about them is awesome again! 25 year slump and they are back

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      Glen Johnson

      9 years ago

      youll have a lot more money left over than the rest of us too

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      Chad Schmeling

      9 years ago

      Not surprised to see most play Mizunos. Its kind of crazy how much of a cult following Mizuno has with little to no marketing or tour presence. I mean, Luke Donald and Stacy Lewis are practically non existent on tour right now, both of their games are in the toilet. Chris Wood is doing well but he only plays on the Euro Tour, so no one even knows who he is. It just goes to show you that when youre the best, you dont need a huge marketing campaign or tour pros wearing your logo.

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      Ray Lukeski

      9 years ago

      Callaway apex they are great

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      Dave Gardner

      9 years ago

      Rocketblaz

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      Jimmy Gordon

      9 years ago

      Callaway x20 tour

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      Brian Jay Murra

      9 years ago

      I will only ever play Mizuno irons and wedges for the rest of my golf life! Can’t beat that Mizzy feel. ⛳️

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      Jóhannes Bjarki Sigurðsson

      9 years ago

      Wilson Staff Ci7

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      Glen Johnson

      9 years ago

      so cheap in Australia now its unbelievable

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      Don Higgerson

      9 years ago

      I have Mizuno 800 pro in one bag and Taylormade in 2 other bags.

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      Fireinthehole

      9 years ago

      Bridgestone seems to be stuck in that small %, but then again they don’t flood stores with Merch and are particular about who gets Demo’s etc.
      Amazing clubs, but one of the reasons I have new Mizuno’s and not new Bridgestone’s.
      Have to drive too far to try out the Bridgestones

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      Gil Bloomer

      9 years ago

      Cleveland CG16

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      Tom54

      9 years ago

      When I answered the survey, my irons were about 2 years old. But I used my previous set for 5 years. There are probably a few other people like that in the survey, so it doesn’t necessarily mean we are changing our irons every couple of years.

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      Harry B. Gasparett

      9 years ago

      Mizuno MP 14…..

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      Alex Pegler

      9 years ago

      I would think that the mygolfspy crowd are not your every day golfers though… Probably more of your golfers golfer…. Nerds! That or Mizuno are making a lot more money than they are making out =)

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      Golfercraig

      9 years ago

      Change irons every 2.64 years. Spend every day on here, or WRX, or THP, bitching about companies changing their lines too often. The life of a golf forum douchebag.

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      I went to a demo day and swung all types of clubs by Tmag, Callaway, Cobra, Cleveland/ Srixon and Titleist and nothing there felt as good as my Wilson Staff V2’s. When you can use irons that have “traditional” lofts and hit as far as a club that doesn’t, you know they are doing something right. As for hybrids, again, Touredge is just filthy long compared to these other brands to a point I’ve had to re-adjust my distances. I have to use my Touredge 3 wood on short par 4’s with dog legs otherwise I hit it almost out of bounds. Touredge XCG7 beta is the first driver I’ve ever owned that I can actually shot shape with. I’ve never been able to do that before and it’s deep. My only complaint are my wedges (which are Callaway) that I’m thinking of switching out. For Mizuno to be the leader here for irons speaks volumes to them, BRAVO! Mizuno fans, I do suggest however, if you’ve never hit Wilson, try it. IMHO, they do feel a tad better than Mizuno.

      If this site has taught me anything, it’s when buying a golf club, the small companies are just as good if not better than the big guys.

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      ryebread

      9 years ago

      Lou: I agree with you on the smaller brands. A lot of them make some really great products. If you’re willing to do a mix and match bag (which the average MGS reader seemingly is), you can really put together a great set from lesser known brands. It’s more of a best in class approach as opposed to a single vendor that does everything pretty well.

      I’d agree with you about Tour Edge and hybrids. Their Exotics hybrids are just fantastic. I own a monitor, and the numbers against specs have really impressed me. I routinely find them to give me carry distances equivalent to one club higher (in specs) from other OEMs. By this I mean a 39.75 / 23 TEE will perform about like a 40.25 / 20 from another OEM for my swing. The only thing that can rival them based on my testing are the high end Adams TI products. As with anything, your mileage may vary.

      I just say this because TE is seemingly only know for FWs. Some of the recent driver releases in the Exotics lines have really been focused on the lower capper. I tend to think the hybrids are more approachable for the average player, yet still offer the performance.

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      I agree with how TEE are known for their fairway woods (and rightfully so) but the XCG 7 Beta is filthy long once you get it dialed in. I’ve never hit anything so far with it. I wonder how good their irons are…..

      James

      9 years ago

      Lou, feel is so subjective, some like it soft some like it more firm, some like it like Muira and some like Ping that is not even a Forged Club. Some like their Driver Shafts firm some like it soft. The shaft you play in the irons play the biggest factor re feel not so much the club head. I have changes the shafts in my Mizuno MP64 from KBS to Steelfiber 110. Feel Weight is higher but overall club weight slightly lower. The Steelfiber shaft feels slightly firmer in the same heads. We see more and more that “serious’ (not meaning low handicap, but people who take the game serious even at their own handicap level) spend less on new equipment but rather spend money on custom fitting. My Adams Driver is 6 yrs old, just replaced the shaft with a New Accra FX shaft. My Clubhead speed dropped from 105 to 97 due to a shoulder injury, Now I hit the ball just as long but more consistent than before. I tested all the major brands drivers with different flex and then went for a proper fitting. Non of the new heads produced better results. This is the trend we see. The respondents to this survey is most likely the “serious” golfers as I defined it above. It is like Photography, buying a better camera or a new lens does not make you a better photographer, knowing how to use it and knowing your equipment well makes you a better photographer.

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      James, I agree with you about the shafts – no question. I guess I should have been a little more specific. I’m really talking about the ball and the contact to the face and how soft and pure it feels when you hit that sweetspot. I also love the feedback I get when I don’t. It definitely helps.

      I’m even going to go out on a limb and say almost any skill level should be playing these types of irons. Yes it is nice to hit mishit and still get that forgiveness from a shot but really you aren’t learning anything about your swing and how to fix your mistakes in your swing. The feedback from my irons right now tell me if I hit the toe or heel and has helped me make a lot of corrections in my swing.

      revkev

      9 years ago

      Are you sure that’s not change irons 2.64 times a year instead of purchase irons every 2.64 years? Oh wait this is an overall result and not just for me. :) I have to admit that I was shocked by the number of Mizzie owners in our community also. Does it follow that if there were a way for them to better educate the general golfing public they would stand to gain the most in regards to market share?

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      The most effective way to ‘educate’ the general public is through a larger tour presence, more commercial time during events that people watch, and (still) traditional print ads.

      It’s what Callaway does, it’s what TaylorMade does, it’s what PING does…and it works.

      From a bankable athlete perspective, Callaway has Phil, TaylorMade has DJ, Sergio, Jason Day, and Justin Rose. Mizuno has…Luke Donald. Who in addition to not playing particularly well of late, is British (which is, in part, why Mizuno does better over there).

      The biggest obstacle to growth is money…or lack thereof for advertising.

      If you’re looking for upside…Nike always have upside (even if they never figure out how to take advantage). Cobra has some upside, I think. Wilson probably has some upside as well.

      Market share is finite, so for someone to grow, somebody else has to contract. Adams will shrink. Cleveland will shrink (but will look to get some of it back with Srixon), but we’re talking small numbers. For somebody to make a bigger move, it will have to come at the expense of somebody near the top.

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      Fred

      9 years ago

      Tony: Mizuno also has Stacy Lewis.

      Tom

      9 years ago

      AND Steven Bowdich who won with MP4s a couple of weeks ago.

      TdoggyDog

      9 years ago

      They also have Chris wood who won last week.

      James

      9 years ago

      Who, Who, and Who? Says the weekend golfer.

      Andrew

      9 years ago

      I know all of them, Bodow is an Australian too, so a lot of Australian golfers know what he is playing. If you follow golf on fox it doesn’t take long to learn who players are and what gear they use.

      Drjacko

      9 years ago

      “.. Titleist, PING, and Callaway all have respectable numbers (+/- 15%).” does not equate to around 15%

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      We struggled with how to present this since the numbers are a bit tricky to work with. Some people carry 1 hybrid, some carry 3, and so the survey software gives us numbers that exceed one-hundred percent.

      Effectively 23.67% have at lest one Adams hybrid, but the guy with an Adams may also have at least one Callaway, and potentially one of something else. Not only does that increase the vote count for each club, but it pushes the total percentage above 100%.

      We had the same situation with the fairway woods, and will see it again with wedges.

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