Meet the 915 – The Most Compelling Titleist Driver Release in Over a Decade
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Meet the 915 – The Most Compelling Titleist Driver Release in Over a Decade

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Meet the 915 – The Most Compelling Titleist Driver Release in Over a Decade

Written By: Tony Covey

“New Active Recoil Channel™, Radial Speed Face and High-MOI Design Deliver Lower Spin and Higher Speed with Exceptional Forgiveness”

Well, I suppose it’s fair to say that Titleist has nailed the requisite buzzwords for any new driver release.

  • It’s got new technology (Active Recoil Channel)
  • It has a Radial Speed Face (why have a face at all if it’s not speedy)
  • It has a precise high-MOI design
“The new 915 drivers are a game-changer for us. We’ve increased speed and lowered spin without sacrificing MOI or forgiveness – and we’re the first to get that combination right.” – Dan Stone, Vice President of Research and Development, Titleist Golf Clubs

The FIRST to get it RIGHT. That’s trash talk, boys…by Titleist standards anyway.

We’re basically one precise alignment graphic away from BINGO.

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Titleist Not Being Titleist

Reasonable observers would likely agree that Titleist is being much more aggressive about telling the story of its 915 product line. While I’d be shocked to see Titleist market anything to the extent of TaylorMade or Callaway, my read on this release is that Titleist both sees an opportunity in the market, and believes it has a unique and compelling product that can fill that need.

Also, it’s been 2 years since the 913, so a Titleist driver was going to happen anyway.

So what makes the 915 series special?

Let’s look at the things that Titleist believes are important to know about the 915 Series.

LOWER SPIN, HIGHER SPEED THROUGH NEW ACTIVE RECOIL CHANNEL

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Channels and slots in golf clubs are nothing new, right? Compression channel, Speed Slot, Speed Pocket, and probably a handful of others I missed are fairly well-known at this point.

Titleist is finally joining the party with the introduction of its Active Recoil Channel. Past incarnations of slot technology have essentially promised 2 things:

  • Faster ball speeds across the whole of the face
  • Specifically better performance from shots stuck below the center of the face

To an extent, Titleist is promising much the same. More flex = more speed = more distance.

But wait, there’s more!

The most intriguing thing about the Active Recoil Channel is that Titleist claims the design also helps to reduce spin. This reduction in spin, which as you’ll read in a bit, is achieved without the extreme forward CG placement found in TaylorMade’s SLDR. That would be compelling.

ARC’s spin reducing design is the primary reason why Titleist believes the 915 series is a game-changer. On the subject of ARC, Titleist says this:

“The Active Recoil Channel is a major technical leap in the area of spin reduction. In player testing, we’ve seen significant distance gains, up to 15 yards for players who need spin control”  – Dan Stone, Vice President of Research and Development, Titleist Golf Clubs

Yeah…that’s right. Titleist just made a yardage claim of it’s own.

And then it said this:

“We began incorporating Active Recoil Channel in the prototype phase about four years ago, but this kind of technology requires a lot of fine-tuning if you’re going to do something that’s different, as opposed to making a cosmetic or marketing change. By adding significant technology for speed and spin without sacrificing MOI, we think we’ve done something very special that nobody’s done to this point.” Dan Stone, Vice President of Research and Development, Titleist Golf Clubs

and then this:

“With the Active Recoil Channel, the ball is compressing in a different manner and doesn’t have the chance to gather as much rotational energy so it departs the club face with less spin. It also creates a greater recoil effect, which imparts more speed, particularly low on the face.”  – Dan Stone, Vice President of Research and Development, Titleist Golf Clubs

Like I said a few hundred words ago, with the 915 Driver Titleist has brought out a more aggressive, dare I say, slightly more modern approach to getting its message out.

It’s less matter-of-fact. It’s innovation focused and damned if it doesn’t have me genuinely excited about a new Titleist driver for the first time in a decade.

What else does Titleist want you to know about?

INCREASED BALL SPEED THROUGH RADIAL SPEED FACE

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Though the clever names may differ, like slots, nearly everyone in the driver business has some form of proprietary face technology.

So with that in mind, stop me if you’ve heard this part before.

The Radial Speed Face design features a variable thickness face insert. Basically, the center of the face is thicker but gets thinner as you move outward towards the perimeter.

In the case of the 915, the face is actually organically tapered as you move away from the center. That’s right…organically tapered.

The reality is this sort of design is basically commonplace. Faces are thicker in the middle primarily to pass COR tests, and then thinned to better maintain ball speed on off-center hits.

So what makes Titleist’s implementation any different, or more to the point, any better than anybody else’s?

According to Titleist, the real difference is that its Radial Speed Face works in conjunction with Active Recoil Channel. ARC gives you the most benefit when you miss low on the face, while the Radial Speed Face insert gives you similar benefits on heel and toe strikes.

“ARC does an excellent job increasing ball speeds overall, however, its biggest effect happens low on the club face where the channel is positioned. As you move off center and mishit heel or toe, that’s where the Radial Speed Face insert kicks in –you’re getting more flex in those areas which helps generate more speed.” – Dan Stone, Vice President of Research and Development, Titleist Golf Clubs

What some may find compelling is that this story…a combination of channel technology, and proprietary face technology will likely prove inarguably similar to what we’ll hear from Nike when they begin talking about the Vapor driver in earnest.

Whose better lives up to the billing? We’ll see, but I’m certain most will assume an advantage for Titleist.

HIGH MOI DESIGN FOR DISTANCE AND FORGIVENESS

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While it still surprises people when I tell them, the reality is that recent Titleist drivers have been among the most forgiving in the industry.

Seriously…that stuff about Titleist drivers being almost exclusively for better players…it’s mythology at its worst. If high MOI and forgiveness is at the top of your list, you definitely should be looking more closely at Titleist.

Seriously.

And really, as long as we’re talking about mythology, let’s clear up what the actual benefit of higher MOI is. Actually, let’s let Titleist do it, because I really couldn’t explain it much better myself.

“Many golfers understand high MOI as straightness or accuracy, but high MOI is truly about speed and distance. It’s about maintaining speed across the face for increased distance consistency. We’ve added great performance with the Active Recoil Channel and Radial Speed Face to lower spin and increase speed, and by having high MOI we don’t have to give any of it up. – Dan Stone, Vice President of Research and Development, Titleist Golf Clubs

The short of it is that bulge and roll are primarily responsible for bringing your ball back towards the fairway when you don’t quite hit it where you want to. MOI is about maintaining ball speed (and consequently distance), on those same less than perfect strikes.

Got that?

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As I’m sure you’re well aware, plenty of golf companies produce high-MOI drivers. On numbers alone, you’re not going to do much better than PING’s G30.

What makes the design of the 915 driver interesting is that Titleist is claiming to have found the perfect balance between CG position and MOI.

If we look at what Titleist is saying through Goldilocks’ real-world eyes it goes something like this:

  • The TaylorMade SLDR CG is too forward and MOI is too low.
  • The PING G30 CG is too rearward (actually, probably too far off the neutral axis) and MOI is higher than it needs to be.
  • The Titleist 915 CG position and MOI is just right.

The point is that everybody in the industry has their own version of the ideal CG and MOI story. If you want to draw a comparison with someone else in the industry; the Titleist story isn’t much different than the Cobra story.

Low is good, but because of differences between theoretical ideals and what’s practically possible right now, it’s important to not push too far forward, or too far rearward. It’s all about finding the right balance.

What is worth reporting is how Titleist was actually able to prevent the CG from moving to a place it would like consider too far forward.

The Active Response Channel adds mass close to the face, which would, by itself, move mass low and forward. TaylorMade says this is good. Titleist says not so much.

“It’s easier to move your center of gravity low and forward, but if you choose to go low and back to preserve MOI it’s more of a challenge. Low and forward reduces spin, but what you give up by going forward is forgiveness and MOI, so there are some tradeoffs. There is a significant distance potential in terms of the consistency of our products versus competitive low-spin products.” Dan Stone, Vice President of Research and Development, Titleist Golf Clubs

To offset the undesirable consequences as far as CG placement is concerned, Titleist moved from a 6-4 titanium to a 8-1-1 material for the crown of the 915 Driver. That change allowed Titleist to thin the crown to .5mm (the lowest in the industry), and further save weight by tapering the top line and leading edge, and adding thin pockets in low stress areas near the front of head.

That latter bit isn’t wholly dissimilar from TaylorMade’s thick-thin or Cobra’s CELL crown technologies, but the ultimate result is that the efforts freed up discretionary weight which Titleist was then able to reposition farther back in the head in order to achieve the more desirable CG location.

Whether or not Titleist is actually the first to get CG positioning absolutely right is a question that can only be solved through performance testing.

INDUSTRY-LEADING ADJUSTABILITY WITH SUREFIT TOUR HOSEL

Industry-leading?

I suppose that’s a matter of perspective. Sure Fit does some things well (adjusting lie angle is pretty sweet), but the system is also unnecessarily complex. Yes, I know it comes with a manual, but should a golf club really require a manual?

Shouldn’t grip here, swing basically cover it?

Arguably Titleist’s system is the least intuitive adjustability system on the planet today, and while intuitiveness and effectiveness are two different animals; if the system is too complex for the average golfer (he never messes with it), then actual effectiveness is inconsequential.

I would have liked to see Titleist do a bit more to evolve the system than just tidying up the paint.

While I don’t have any concrete facts to support what I’m about to say, the counter to my own argument is that it’s likely that a higher percentage of Titleist drivers are custom fit compared with the industry leaders in total sales.

I’d also assume that the average Titleist customer is at least more likely to be invested enough to take the time to dabble with the adjustability than the average off-the-rack guy. The system isn’t without advantages, but there’s room for improvement. #TheresAlwaysBetter.

For those who work with a fitter, or know how a computer works, a range of SureFit Tour weights are available to help you achieve your desired swing weight with most any shaft.

TWO HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONE

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As is the Titleist way dating back several releases, the 915 Driver will initially be available in two distinct models.

The 915D2 is a 460cc with what Titleist calls a full pear profile for maximum forgiveness. Loft to loft, the D2 should produce a higher peak trajectory with an additional 250 RPM of spin compared to the D3.

The workable and forgiving 915D3 is a 440cc head with slightly elongated design to help achieve the desired MOI and CG position. Noteably, the face is 3mm deeper than the previous generation, and the D3 offers a slight draw bias due to what Titleist calls a dynamic face closure.

PRICING, SPECS, AND, AVAILABILITY

915D2 is available in 7.5º, 8.5º, 9.5º, 10.5º and 12º lofts. 915D3 is available in 7.5º, 8.5º, 9.5º, and 10.5º. (7.5º lofts are RH only.)

The stock lineup includes the Aldila Rogue Black 70 (mid-launch) and Aldila Rogue Silver 60 (lower-mid launch); and the Mitsubishi Diamana D+ White 70 (low launch), Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Blue 60 (mid launch), and Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Red 50 (high launch).

In addition, Titleist offers an industry-leading (Titleist’s words, not mine) number of custom shaft choices.

The new 915D2 and 915D3 drivers will be available in golf shops worldwide beginning Nov. 14 with an MAP of $449 (MSRP $499)

File that last bit under I TOLD YOU SO.

For those not paying close attention, Titleist has just raised the price of its drivers by $50. Look for several manufacturers to do the same over the next season or two.

The increase not only helps to offset higher production costs, it also puts more money into the retailer’s pocket (though actual retail margin percentages are unchanged from previous years).

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Have Your Say

You tell me, are you excited by this Titleist announcement, or is this just more of the same?

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Tony is the Editor of MyGolfSpy where his job is to bring fresh and innovative content to the site. In addition to his editorial responsibilities, he was instrumental in developing MyGolfSpy's data-driven testing methodologies and continues to sift through our data to find the insights that can help improve your game. Tony believes that golfers deserve to know what's real and what's not, and that means MyGolfSpy's equipment coverage must extend beyond the so-called facts as dictated by the same companies that created them. Most of all Tony believes in performance over hype and #PowerToThePlayer.

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      Frank

      9 years ago

      Folks,

      Been a while since I posted as I been blessed with two youngens. Anyway, I needed some upgrading and thought there was still more distance to be had in my woods (currently playing the r1 rbz stage 2 and original rbz I driver five wood three wood respectively. ). That said I went on a mission last week and found the five wood to be as long as my current three wood no surprise but now I was intrigued. I went back to golfsmith the other day and hit the driver and three wood. Driver shaft was out of spec for me but I was easily 10-20 yards further with lower ball speed and launch. The three wood was the plus model (same as the rbz) and it fits right between. If these result filled tot he course I just shorten my approaches on everything. Go hit these thugs the trash talk is all worth it and lives up to the yep. I suggest finding a fitting demo day in your area as dicks and gs didn’t have optimal shaft head selections so I had to travel between the two.

      Also even though the added charged the stock shafts are giving you true aftermarket shafts in the club you can up charge from the to “exotic” shaft selections such sad the Fuji fuel and kyoshi etc etc love the use of exotic in golf terms gees

      Happy golfing once this snow disappears

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      Bob

      9 years ago

      I’m a 5 with a swing speed of 105-110. Average drive in the 270 -280 range. I’m also addicted to new clubs. Last year I gamed the G30 and the SLDR. Liked the G30, hated the SLDR. Notice how few of the TM players still game that CG nightmare. Within past week played the Nike Vapor Pro, the G30 LS tec and the 915 D2. The Ping was nice but the sound still kills and not in a good way. The Vapor Pro, not so much. Maybe Rory can hit it, but he could win with a hickory stick. Very difficult to achieve proper launch even with correct shaft and adjustments. Definite loss of distance compared to the G30. I briefly owned a 913 and wasn’t impressed. Not as much control as with the 910 with very few yards gained. The 915? It totally rocked. More control than the 910 and more distance than the 913. The contact sound, crisp but a tad muted, and the look make it a real winner. Will be in my bag until the 917 shows up.

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      Billyho

      9 years ago

      The new 915 rocks over the 913. Just ordered the 460cc 9.5 degree model in an extra stiff rogue shaft. Compared the stats on the Golfsmith simulator vs my current 913 model with the exact same shaft and it carried an extra 20 yards per shot. Spin came down 2900 to 2500. Launch angles were similar at 11.5 degrees. The biggest difference was lower spin, better dispersion and 20 yards more of carry. Feel and sound were solid (pretty close to 913 model) and miss hits still traveled well and better than the 913. If the simulator results from the 913 driver to 915 model net me 20 yards more carry per drive, that’s a pretty serious change in performance. I know some may say that’s not possible…..ok, I’m a 5 handicap, can hit drives 300 yards (30% of the time) and maybe the forgiveness and technology in the new model really made my mishits that much better! Would be hard to believe that center face contact would yield 20 yards more (my simulator results were closer to a 10-12 yard increase on center strikes). I think any decent player who knows Titleist stuff will really appreciate the new model. Just my two cents!

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      Scott McFarland

      9 years ago

      bought one before it came out at a titleist demo day at my club. tried it on the range using trackman. hitting my old 910 d2 scored consistently at 200 yds carry. using the 915 d2 I consistently (like every single swing) scored 214, 215, 212, 213, 214, 214, 215. 14 yds average carry improvement. And straighter. I can dig it. I’m a 7 index with a 100 mph swing speed.

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      Doug

      9 years ago

      I am really confident with my 910 D2, RIP a stiff shaft. I think the low torque helps me keep it straight. I don’t know if I should order the 915 with the same shaft or go with the Rogue Silver which has a slightly higher torque rating. Any fitters out there have an opinion?

      Thanks
      Doug

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      ATX89

      9 years ago

      Compared the D2 and D3 to my SLDR today. Was extremely surprised at how the D3 with the Rogue 70g shaft consistently outperformed my SLDR. Have started the order/trade in process.

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      Tom Seymour

      9 years ago

      Having always been a Ping wood golfer. Have always loved Titleist irons, but I could never hit their woods very well. The D2 915 is different. I hit 15 balls with my Ping driver and then 15 with the 915 driver. I added about 10 – 15 yards in the air with a nice roll and with a nice high launch. My mishits with the 915 were going as far as my best hits with my Ping driver. I ordered it that day. I am HOOKED!!!!

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      Saevel25

      10 years ago

      “The short of it is that bulge and roll are primarily responsible for bringing your ball back towards the fairway when you don’t quite hit it where you want to. MOI is about maintaining ball speed (and consequently distance), on those same less than perfect strikes.”

      Incorrect, all clubs have gear effect, even irons. Bulge and Roll just help start the ball more right or left so the ball ends up curving back towards the center. Basically, toe shots tend to start more right, due to the bulge and roll, then curve back because of the gear effect.
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      As with any club I have cautious optimism. Until I see the launch numbers, I will hold off judgement.

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      Charles Bartholomew

      10 years ago

      I’d love to see the new D2 and D3 tested here at MYGOLFSPY. When I see the numbers, then I’ll make up my mind.

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      Clinton Barnes

      10 years ago

      Seriously cant believe some guys are complaining about a $50 price increase. Thats what a quality product costs

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      Andy W

      10 years ago

      “The first to get that combination right; ball speed and lowered spin without sacrificing MOI or forgiveness.” The FIRST? So does this go unchallenged? What says Callaway, TM, Cobra, etc..?

      Andrew J Walters
      http://www.expertgreenreading.com

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      Gil B.

      10 years ago

      The article is spot on in so many ways. It’s about time that a new Titleist introduced a new driver. Also, as the article properly points out, they’re using all the buzzwords and technology terms that pique your interest and, as a result, want to investigate the driver further. But when you boil it down to the basic requirements, is it worth the huge price tag in terms of distance and accuracy. Titleist is known for not taking part in any of the evaluations and/or tests conducted on this site and now that they’re introducing a new driver I wonder: 1) are they willing to take part in the evaluations, 2)if they are they must be very confident and have one hell of a product. I hope that this new release is everything they hail as the latest and greatest but to spend a healthy amount of cash for an additional 10 yards or so, I’ll save my money and be content with my present driver. Thanks for the article, it was very interesting.

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      Dave S

      10 years ago

      Nice looking driver. Too bad we’ll never see it in the MGS Most Wanted Driver tests b/c Titleist is too elite for such silly competitions (you know, the ones it might actually LOSE)…

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      Dave D

      10 years ago

      Club sales are gravy for Titleist, it is all about the ball. No need to hype the clubs, they sell themselves.

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      fleeter

      10 years ago

      Titleist does some interesting stuff when they put clubs out. For example, their irons are usually on a 2 year cycle and last year they came out with the 714’s. The woods and hybrids are the same. Every 2 years. I’m a big fan of some titleist products, playing AP irons and vokey wedges, and of course the ProV1, but I can honestly say I’ve never hit a Titleist driver, fairway wood, or hybrid. The 915 has caught my eye and I might give it a swing. If it outdoes my G25 I might consider it, but at 449 (and if that’s the US price it’s likely to be 499 or 549 in Canada) it’s a big chunk of change. You know with Titleist though that that price will stick until the next model 2 years down the road comes out.

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      Dave Donlon

      10 years ago

      I am a Tech Rep for Titleist and just fit the staff club pros in my area for the new driver and 3 wood. Out of 22 fittings only 2 pros did i. tease their distance, swing issues and lack of a consistent swing were the issue. All the pro’s loved the performance of the club. If you get a chance to try it on a launch monitor do it, remember to bring your current drive to compare the numbers. Also as said in my previous post, the Rogue and Diamana shafts have significant upcharges from the other manufacturers, they are stock shafts with Titleist.

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      Dave Donlon

      10 years ago

      The retail price on the Titleist driver may have increased by $50 but the stock shafts they are using are up-charges from any other manufacturer. If you order a Taylormade or Callaway with the Rogue shaft the price jumps to $595, Cobra and Ping $550. Looks like the Titleist is the better value.

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      Lee Cole

      10 years ago

      I read nothing to get excited about. Actually more impressed with the driver offer from this site and Powerbuilt.(sic) Wish I had taken advantage of it.

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      SPY ZINGER

      10 years ago

      I just wish Titleist would let me in the front door.

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      Eric

      10 years ago

      Kinda of joking about the amazon comment, though Wall Street still likes them

      Why do I keep reading that the 913 is short?

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      Zra

      10 years ago

      Lol now that Titleist has jumped in on a distance game TMAG and CALLY ads didn’t sound so bad.

      15 more yards? I will have to try it out myself as I couldn’t hit my 913 D3 longer than my old 983 (shorter in fact).

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      GDB99

      10 years ago

      I like the looks of this driver. Looking forward to trying it out.
      Titleist has modified their variable face (yes Skip, they’ve had them for years, too), Lowered the spin, and kept the MOI. Maybe I can finally up-grade from my Launcher Comp!

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      Matt

      10 years ago

      Having had a chance to hit these, Titleist is right on. This driver goes farther and feels better than the 913 does. Even with the new technology, they have managed to maintain the classic look that Titleist is know for. This driver will be a hit, along with the fairways and hybrids. Looking forward to getting them in the bag!

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      Thorny

      10 years ago

      Gee they designed a club for the average [off center hits] Joe. Too bad we can’t afford it. And they wonder why no one is playing the game.

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      SkipThisAd

      10 years ago

      After variable (“radical dude” -surfer’s phase) faces being around more than a decade, now is when Titleist decided to have one? That chamber was on Nike driver 2 or 3 years ago and now Titleist is bringing it back?
      Titleist also found the balance, and they added $50. to the price to balance your wallet.
      Did you noticed that Zak Johnson is not in the brainwash.. i mean…commercial? He’s probably the shorter hitter on titleist ‘s player list ,similar to single digit handicappers and maybe this new driver doesnt work for him.
      I noticed the 1st video said “this driver is for serious players only”…. oh boy.
      Titleist killed their clubs’ market many years ago when they kept pounding us with the bs
      ” penetrating ball flight” and to make it worst, the ” call for pricing”.
      Who the hell is going to call for pricing.

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      Rick

      10 years ago

      I tried several drivers over the years but continue to come back to Titleist. My 913 D2 is as good or better than anything I’ve used. Why wouldn’t I be excited about this one?

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      Berniez40

      10 years ago

      I’ll be anxious to try these. A Titleist release is a real club release, not a marketing or accounting department mandate. I was impressed by the 910, amazed by the 913, and prepared to be astounded by the 915. Maybe, just maybe, something will knock the Nakashima Driver out of my bag, but I’ll have to get a recession buster of a paycheck first.

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      alan dornink

      10 years ago

      This looks like the same design of Sean the beast Fister’s driver which has a compression chamber.

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      Howard Theisman

      10 years ago

      More Marketing BS – Titleist also thinks that ALL golfers will play better with a PROV1.

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      KonaTom

      10 years ago

      I love my SLDR. If my swing works, it never disappoints. Always 1-2 clubs shorter than with my previous 910. That said…I will try the 915 D2. If I see significant improvement…I’ll whip out my Amex card. Otherwise I’ll stay true in my SLDR relationship.

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      Dan Bedarf

      10 years ago

      One month ago I got to hit a 915 D3 with a Rogue 110 shaft. I play TM’s SLDR and have to say that the ball flew off the face of the club. Hard to say if there was any significant distance difference. The combo sure felt sweet. I hit a few off centre and the 915 did out perform the SLDR here. Would have been nice to have the rogue in my SLDR to have a better comparison If I was on the lookout for a new driver would seriously consider this one.

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      mike

      10 years ago

      Wait! Titleist is launching new products?!?! Must be a bad thing. Boy they really are pushing new technology. .. what a joke.

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      Darin

      10 years ago

      I am intrigued by it. I bought the Big Bertha Alpha this year and have been disappointed with it overall. Maybe it is a shaft issue but I am not hitting it as well as my old RAZR fit. My son plays a 913D2 and loves it. I will probably try the 915 but I realy wish it came in white.

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      Jericho

      10 years ago

      All the hype sounds great ..I game the “14 ap2s with gold tour issue x1’s and 913’s ..my 913 and shaft setup is probably the best it’s been in a long time ..start it right center and flows right back to center’ish about 290-295 average..was 13/14 last Sunday, can also play the cut if need be , I’m really comfortable with the setup..not sure I need the 915 unless I just want something new ..will definitely swing it ..will demo it with the same type of head/shaft setup on a course I play often so I could really compare numbers ..if I could shape the ball just as easily as my mine but get longer numbers it will be bagged

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      Todd T

      10 years ago

      Why would you change anything that’s 13/14 and goes 290? This from a fitters standpoint is a non starter. Stick with it and go low!

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      Jon D

      10 years ago

      One Question:

      I just got a Taylormade SLDR and I am happy with it so I am a lousy candidate for a new driver. In any event, I will withhold judgment on the new Titleist until we see some comparable testing with the competition, which I eagerly await.

      When do you think you guys will get around to making that happen?

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      Sam

      10 years ago

      What are the standard lengths of the shafts? If they’ve increased them over previous generations, there’s the majority of their distance claim.

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      Todd Tschantz

      10 years ago

      Titliest remains at 45″.

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      markb

      10 years ago

      I don’t currently have a single Titleist club in my bag, but I’m optimistic about this driver.

      I think there’s a good possibility that they’ve put together the right components for a club that will fit me. T is absolutely right, the 913d2 was the most forgiving and straightest driver I’ve hit in the past couple of years. It was a real fairway finder — but it was significantly shorter than almost everything else I hit. I simply couldn’t stomache being in the fairway two irons farther back than normal. If the new channel and face a distance difference, I’m all in.

      Also, need I echo that the Surefit adapter is superb, no need for a change? Everybody knows that right? And it’s good to see that Titleist will offer the Aldila Rogue stock, just like Cally, and others, even if it is only a watered down version of the Tour’s legendary 125 MSI beast. Make no mistake, 2015 will be THE year of the Aldila Rogue. It also might be the year of the 915, we’ll see. I’ve already tried most of the other new mid-year releases and found them wanting.

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      Regis

      10 years ago

      Had a 910 which I liked that replaced a G20 that I tried to like but never warmed to. As you mentioned the 910 adaptor was counter intuitive and because I like switching shafts it did constitute a negative. I am currently in love with my SLDR and after a lot of shaft experiments I have settled on the Hiskei Wave (Thanks MGS-for me its a game changer and I tried a lot of shafts) and so I am convinced I am not improving on that combo. So maybe at the end of its cycle I’ll look at the 915 in two years, but there is so much constantly coming out (not fingering Titleist by any means) that I have grown tired of the quest, high expectations followed by mixed results. Kind of like the reason a lot of people get married.

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      Dennis

      10 years ago

      Hi Guys
      Good job getting a tech word out .. With out ballony ..
      I’ m a club fitter for 25 years and I’ m still need to hear , that the most important part of a club is the shaft . You can have a plutonium head , with diamond insets , but if you have a crappy shaft… That’s what you’l get.
      But I’ truly interested to find out , if the shafts that Titliest uses is the real Mitsubishi Diamana ?
      Same with Callaway with its Fubuki !! , Nike with there Kuro Kage …….
      I would love an article. Dimistifing about.OEM use against the originals ..
      Thanks a lot
      Good Job … Keep it up
      Dennis Stock

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      Todd T

      10 years ago

      I have been told and believe the shafts are actual Mitsubishi and Aldila (now owned by Mitsubishi) shafts. Graphics are identical and nobody would give that up for branding reasons.
      Stock shaft line up is awesome! Aldila Rouge, Diamana WB, BB and new RB (formerly the Bassara). and all the corresponding weights are available.

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      Regis

      10 years ago

      I love Titleist drivers but I am skeptical as to the legitimacy of the stock shaft and always question it. If the best price one can get on an Aldila Rogue is $699 (I believe MSRP is $899) how can Titleist include it as stock in their $429 driver. If the shaft is made in China (as a lot of their stock shafts are) then it can’t be a true aftermarket. Just my suspicion.

      Dave

      10 years ago

      @Regis, Titleist can sell at $449 due to volume. Just consider the number of drivers they sell a year compared to the average joe walking into Golfsmith or Golf Galaxy looking for a shaft.

      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      Regis – what Dave said more or less. The point is that golf companies pay literally pennies on the dollar compared to aftermarket retail. Titleist isn’t paying anything within 10 area codes of $699.

      Not sure how true this is, but we heard a story that a particular golf company’s cost on a $325 aftermarket shaft was negotiated down to $15 per unit. The aftermarket consumer offsets the golf company’s cost differential.

      I actually checked in with Titleist on the realness/legitimacy of their Rogue offering, here’s the relevant bits of what I was told:

      “Yes, the Rogue shafts we are offering are real deal. There are however several of them and there has been some confusion. We are offering a Rogue Silver (110MSI) 60 & 70, and a Rogue Black (95MSI) 60, 70 & 80. Neither of these shafts are listed on their website yet, but its coming.

      In addition, there is a Rogue Silver (125MSI) 60 & 70 that is offered in what Aldila calls tour flexes: TX, TS, TR. We will offer this shaft as a custom upcharge. The primary different between the Silver 110MSI and Silver 125MSI is a flag of special material in the butt that lowers the torque. Flex profiles are the same.”

      Dave D

      10 years ago

      Regis & Tony, I am a tech rep for Titleist and to use the Graphite Design DI-7 as an example (Tigers old shaft). The retail on that shaft is around $380, our up-charge was $150 on a driver. We did not sell that many units with that shaft in it. Now consider how many units are being sold with a “stock” shaft and you can see that volume will significantly lower the cost for Titleist when buying the shafts from Aldila or Diamana.

      Regis

      10 years ago

      Tony-Thanks for the reply and taking the time. Not trying to question the quality of Titleist or any other manufacturer. Just always leery . I understand the volume discount argument, however, the Rogue was initially marketed as a $1000 shaft and Aldila justified the price by the cost of the materials, workmanship etc.. Now a few months later I can get it on a Titleist driver stock for $429.. In the past Titleist and Taylor Made (the Matrix 5.5) have marketed (either as stock or an upcharge) a premium shaft that was made to the same specs as a true aftermarket but made in a different factory (China vs Japan) or made slightly different materials I have several older Titleist Bassara stock shafts that are great but again they were made in their factory in China. Anyway I’ve taken up enough of your time.

      Super Tuna

      10 years ago

      Indeed.

      There’s a lot of confusion about the Rogue due to the Tour Issue variant that is serialized and comes with a certificate and the retail version.

      I wish Aldila had come up with something like UST’s Tour SPX Program so it would be a little more obvious to the consumer which is which. But for branding, I can see why they wouldn’t.

      golfer4life

      10 years ago

      Tony,
      Thanks for trying to get the shaft questions cleared up from Titleist. Guess I’ll state the obvious by saying, not sure that who you talked to at Titleist knows/wants to admit that it is not the same $699 Rogue shaft. The one I believe Regis is skeptical about is the 125 that is getting all the tour attention. Don’t understand how he would say, ‘Yes, the Rogue shafts we are offering are real deal? Real deal what?
      So what does it all mean? I don’t believe much. I think they will be great offerings, and the only way to know is have the shafts available to try in a fitting. Offering the ‘125’ as a stock option would probably prove to be a negative experience for a large % anyway. The Black and Silver will most likely fit a larger % of golfers as it shouldn’t be as stout. I will be interested to see how different they will be from the ‘Tour Blue and Green’, both really good shafts.
      Thanks again
      G4L

      Lou

      10 years ago

      I don’t really see anything different than what we’ve seen before from other companies…even making distance claims is a complete 180 with these guys. I find it very ironic that they are using the same “tactics” as the other 2 “devil” companies and that people aren’t making a fuss about it. But, more power to them. I have nothing against Titleist as I might be making a jump to their stuff soon.

      To me, and nothing against any other company, what else are they to market? It’s a golf club and people want to hit it further. I don’t blame them for saying these things, just ironic that’s all

      As for the club itself, look fine. I didn’t care for the 913. Have to try it first.

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      Todd T

      10 years ago

      That is what is unique about this driver. Titleist has never bought in to the “more distance story. I for one am intrigued by that alone. All MFG’s have been at max C.O.R. since it was regulated, so this expanded sped face will be interesting to watch on the launch monitors as ALL types of players hit it.

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      Dave D

      10 years ago

      I fit 22 area Titleist Staff Pros in early September. They all hit their 913 or 910 before hitting the 915 on Trackman. 20 out of 22 lowered their spin rate and gained yardage. The 2 that didn’t had some swing issues that needed to be addressed to see any significant changes. The only way to see if it is the real deal is to hit your current driver and the 915 on a launch monitor, numbers don’t lie.

      David Smith

      10 years ago

      I must admit, I am excited. I gave up a few yards from other drivers because I love the feel, look, consistency, etc. of the Titleist drivers. I have tried the new G30 but it gives me way too much spin. If they have found a way to add a few yards and keep the same titleist performance then it is well worth a look. I guess I better start rounding up as many old clubs as I can to trade in.

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      AWOL

      10 years ago

      I’m generally never excited about Titleist drivers or products. Not because I don’t think they are good mainly because not a lot of people carry left handed ones to try out. That alone kills a lot of excitement for me. Its like dangling the carrot in front of the donkeys nose. I thought Titleist would have taken more caution calling all the other slot tech gimmicks compared to theirs that seems to walking a fine line. Having said that, I like high MOI and low CG so if they found the balance i will travel far to try it out. Titleist doesn’t ever make outrageous claims especially in yardage gains so if they all willing to put their necks out then im willing to come try it out. Or could they be involved in some market ploy using their reputation to hit the couple other big OEMs while they’re down. Either way im actually hopeful about this driver i was going to get a g30 but now i think i will wait until Nike’s, Titleist and if you haven’t already seen TMag has a special promo out now for some release they will reveal on Oct 15th.

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      golfer4life

      10 years ago

      Def more excited to have a company trust that their product will be good enough to have on the shelves for two years. Hearing more positives than negatives so far. The sound being a bit louder than previous Titleist releases has me a bit concerned though. Shafts should be a really good combination to fit a wide variety of golfers. Can’t wait to see how they perform…

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      MmmmmmBuddy

      10 years ago

      As always, I will reserve judgement until I can hit the product. However, this is the first Titleist driver that I have been interested in since the 975D. If it is better than my current driver, it may find a place in my bag….

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      J.A. Animal

      9 years ago

      just put my 975D in the closet. The 915 D3 is awesome! Only gripe I have is the sound: “Ding!!!” I sooooo love the solid “woody” sound of my 975D!!

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      eric

      10 years ago

      They might want to go along the likes of Amazon. Lower the price to lets say 249 or 299. sell a ton of these and crush TM and Callaway. Get people hooked on Titleist.

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      golfercraig

      10 years ago

      Naw, they’d rather actually make a profit than do what Amazon does.

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      Barbajo

      10 years ago

      Reminds me of the story of the two guys who figured they’d make a ton of money selling pumpkins one Halloween. Bought a truckload of ’em for 25 cents a piece and started selling them at 5 for a dollar. The soon realized they weren’t making any money, so they figured they needed a bigger truck…

      Another nice looking driver from Titleist…looks like a winner!

      Ryan

      10 years ago

      The 915 looks great and I look forward to hitting them but I will not be a buyer at those prices no matter how good it works for me. I can buy a whole set of irons for $500 instead of one club!

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      mnfats95

      10 years ago

      Can’t wait to try the hybrids. My 910’s are looking pretty beat up.

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      Todd T

      10 years ago

      Cool; thing is….Fairways and hybrids are being released at the same time as the Driver this year. No waiting until spring as in the past.

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      Ron stiles

      10 years ago

      Is the hosel fitting the same as the 910 or 913? As in ” will I have to pull my $400 shaft to fit in this head, or will I simply unscrew it from the 910 then re-install in the 915″.

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      Marshall Barnes

      10 years ago

      99% positive that older shafts will work, I have seen the 915 and it looks like the exact same Hosel, but with new paint

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      Dave

      10 years ago

      The new hosel is the same as the 910 and 913, old shafts will fit.

      Todd T

      10 years ago

      That is correct. You may or may not have to change the weight (based on gram weight of your shaft) to hit your desired swing weight.

      Craigar

      10 years ago

      “The 915D2 is a 460cc with what Titleist calls a full pear profile for maximum forgivness. Loft to loft, the D2 should produce a higher peak trajectory with an additional 250 RPM of spin compared to the D3.
      The workable and forgiving 915D3 is a 440cc head with slightly elongated design to help achieve the desired MOI and CG position. Noteably, the face is 3mm deeper than the previous generation, and the D3 offers a slight draw bias due to what Titleist calls a dynamic face closure.”

      Sounds like an oxymoron to me. The D3 is workable with less spin. In any event, I would like to give of these models a test beating as my 905R is getting a little tired.

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      Don

      10 years ago

      I really look at this 915 as the best looking driver I have ever seen. When is the lefty version going to come out? I will start saving now since I know the price isn’t gonna drop a year from now.

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      Todd T

      10 years ago

      Titleist takes care of lefties (I am one too) . The are available at the same time with fitting carts at premier fitters shipping now. We get ours 10/10. Every head is available in LH except the 7.5

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      John Barry

      10 years ago

      As always, looks great…love to hit it.

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      J

      10 years ago

      A part of me is excited because Titleist isn’t known for loading up on BS. And I do love the 910D2 that I currently game, but a part of me has tuned right out on yardage claims at this point.

      Frankly though, the fact that they’re calling out other guys for “marketing gimmicks” in their material likely means they’re a little bit self aware and on some level must believe it is an improvement. (Because literally calling out others on gimmicks and then seeing no real improvement when these are released wouldn’t be smart) Whether or not it’s sufficient enough improvement for me to ditch my 910, I guess we will wait and see.

      It’s certainly enough to get me excited to try it, though.

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      David W

      10 years ago

      Have you hit anything newer than the 910? In my opinion, the 910 isn’t even close to the 913 in forgiveness and length. If this on is better than the 913 then it should be much better than the 910.

      Reply

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