ANNOUNCEMENT: 2017 Most Wanted Testing

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Today, is a big day at MyGolfSpy.

2017 will be an even bigger year for the consumer.

We are taking advantage of our expanded capabilities, and for the first time ever will independently test all the clubs in your golf bag. That means the driver down to the putter.

This year, the culmination of my 18-year career and the purpose of MyGolfSpy will finally be revealed. I am confident you will once and for all see what #PowerToThePlayer really means. I truly believe what we're working on will change the golf industry forever and for the better. And it all starts today. We have fought tooth and nail behind the scenes to bring you something we think all of you deserve. The truth. Unfortunately, many industry insiders have done their best to try and keep us from doing that. We have received legal letters from many of the major manufacturers to try and change what we report to you. From day 1, we have turned down all advertising dollars from all the major manufacturers. This is the only way to ensure that our testing protocols and the resulting data, remain pure and above the influence. We have poured our hearts and souls into testing the right thing for one purpose: You, the golfer.

Who Is In & Who Is Out

Today, we ask for your help for what we hope is the last time. And for that help, everything you give to us will be given right back to you (more on that below).

Below is a list of all the companies that are supporting unbiased testing for 2017.  The companies who chose not to support our testing are also listed.

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What We Want To Test For You

Marketing has unfortunately become more important than the actual performance of a product nowadays. We have all seen the claims and by this point, if they were all true, we would be hitting 400-yard drives by now. Any company can make a claim, the true test is seeing which companies stand behind those claims. Our job is to find out which products perform best when tested against the competition.

Companies decline to participate for many different reasons.  The companies that declined to participate in this year's test have done a great job marketing their products and often have the most to lose by participating in independent testing. So, while we understand they may decline based on their individual business interests, our only interest is the consumer.

That means we have to test these products even when manufacturers decline to participate voluntarily.

The list of products we hope to buy and test for you:

What You Get For Donating

For everything you give to us, we will give back to you plus a little more.

All those that donate today and support unbiased testing will get the following:

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We are the Consumer Reports of Golf. Our mission is to inform and protect the golf consumer.  We are independent and unbiased. Our content and equipment reviews are based on truth and data, not ad revenue and politics. We make this expertise accessible to our readers making them smarter players and consumers.

Our data-driven Most Wanted series is a great example of the value we provide to golfers looking for unbiased information they can depend on.

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leftright January 9, 2017 at 3:24 pm

I buy my drivers based on MGS results. They do it the right way. I currently own two Cobra’s, the FlyZ and FlyZ+ based on their data from 2015. I demoed an M1 but didn’t have much success with it. Wasn’t even close to my FlyZ numbers. I have tried the F6 and F6+ and did not purchase the F6 or F6+ but think I am going to get an F6+. Get the right shaft though and most all of them are long. I use the Project X Hzds red 6.0 and it is hands down the best shaft I have ever used. It replaced my GD DI6 SR that I have used for 2 years. My carry distance improved almost 10 yards with the Project X which is what I look for mostly and spin rate went up 130 rpm only at an average of 101 mph. Of course, this is my swing and the same might not work for you.

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DawgDaddy January 7, 2017 at 9:46 pm

Glad to chip in my little bit, I always look forward to the club test. The Evnroll seriously has my attention.

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Cody Rimel January 7, 2017 at 5:52 am

I love myspy and everything that it stands for. Pxg has made it clear they are not trying to compete against the big box brands so that doesn’t surprise me. Titleist, they should have sent some to save their ass but TM really surprises me, should of at least sent some woods with their new ball for testing. We have tested pxg, tm, callaway and mizuno all side by side on our trackman recently at a couple variety of swing speeds and have been very impressed with some. Look forward to your testing

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Johnny O January 5, 2017 at 2:09 pm

I can’t wait for the test! I look forward to it every year.

I just wanted to note that you are listing the the MSRP for the clubs and you can definitely sell the clubs after the test. So the actual investment is most likely less, but still i hope people step up.

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Jason Polk January 4, 2017 at 12:26 pm

No XXIO or are you including them with Cleveland Srixon?

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Kyle Coultas January 3, 2017 at 8:38 pm

PLEASE 2017, make some clubs that are NOT f***Ingold closed!!!!! What the hell is the point of teachingredients people to hit the ball correctly, when EVERY CLUB on the market is based around ignoring ALL historical instruction and having everything be OFFSET and/or CLOSED to cater to money talking than preserving the game. Our founding forefathers of golf are rolling in their graves, and living legends like Nicklaus and Trevino shake their heads in disdain.

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Cace Smith January 3, 2017 at 5:18 pm

A few things stand out that are interesting…

1) Why would Callaway not send you the Epic drivers? Everything I’ve seen of those who have tried them are saying great things and if Rory is switching to it from the M2 that has to be significant.

2) Tour Edge not supporting you guys with equipment is very odd. I love my TEE hybrid and think it is arguably the best in the category. That said, they don’t have the marketing dollars of the big name brands so I’d think they would want to reach as many consumers as possible.

3) Taylormade continues to be disappointing. I love my M2 and I think they do make some legitimately good product. And, even though the “new” M1/M2 isn’t any different in performance than the 2016 version there are still a lot of consumers out there who have older drivers and may be in the market for an upgrade in 2017. So why wouldn’t you send this product out to be tested alongside the rest of what’s on the market? Seems like they are so confused on who they are right now as a brand.

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Uhit January 4, 2017 at 12:55 am

I had similar thoughts and think, that there could be the following reasons, for those manufacturers, to not provide their equipment:

1) a) Callaway has its own Epic marketing strategy, which didn´t include MGS from the beginning…
…and they (the marketing department) refuse to change that epic strategy because of MGS.
b) They are too greedy and even want to sell each and every unit of this driver…
…because they had to pay a THAT epic amount of money to Rory, that the financial department refused additional Epic expenses.
c) They want to be responsible on their own, for an epic failiure…

2) Tour Edge is maybe on the edge – and no one wants to be responsible?

3) a) Taylormade just continues to be reliable – in the good and the bad…
…at least one company you can rely on!
b) Or they are just fed up with the accusations, that they pay each and every test, which yields a good result, with their good clubs…
c) Even the theoretical threat, that some of the less helpful people in the marketing (and financial) department may not survive a switch to a new owner, doesn´t scare the responsible, because they are not used to, to be made responsible…

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foggyglasses January 3, 2017 at 4:54 pm

HUH….. instead of changing the world… (Trump’s got that) I would like you guys just to do what you have been doing.
You have great articles and you already cover all the “stuff”, I switched to Snell’s after your article/comparo.
You have a good no.. great following. I have been a fan for several years. Always check your email updates, love ’em.
I mean if you need the money go for it just be careful what you wish for……..

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Raymond CHASTEL January 3, 2017 at 1:47 pm

Why don’t you test THE HONMA BERES Clubs ?Their 5 Star home made ( JAPAN ) shifts are outstanding .
And what about THE KRANK GOLF clubs ?I Play all their FORMULA 6 woods and Hybrids and I am very pleased with them ( I’m over 82 and stil Play to a handicap OF 7 ,three Times a week ,on THE FRENCH RIVIERA ,nô winter ,nô winter greens hère !)
I follow your reviens very closely ,your PUTTER assessments have proven right !EVNROLL I
is an outstanding putter .
I shall donate .

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ryebread January 3, 2017 at 1:34 pm

That’s really disappointing by Tour Edge. Their clubs have done well in the past, and they need all the free marketing they can get. Sometimes I don’t think they understand their business or how to grow it.

If I were TM, I’d go for it. They crushed it last year, and seem to be riding a lot of momentum in the metal woods. That’s what moves the brand. I guess there is risk given they’re trying to be sold, but I actually think they have the product not to have to worry.

Have you thought of “sourcing” clubs other ways? Maybe users have some spares that they’d ship you to test with? There have to be a lot of M1/M2 drivers, FWs and hybrids among our site members.

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MyGolfSpy January 3, 2017 at 3:29 pm

Yes, we have thought of many ways to source product and will do everything we can to get those products that were not provided. That being said if this is a fair test we do not want to test used clubs borrowed form others. We prefer to have them to the exact specs we need them for apples to apples testing. For example we could use some of our own PXG irons but the grooves are used and therefore would not be a fair analysis of that product.

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ryebread January 5, 2017 at 2:04 pm

I can understand that completely. It was a bit of a softball question. :-)

Keep doing all the great work. We really appreciate it.

If you need testers for a weekend you may have some readers who live within reasonable proximity who would be willing to take a few swings. 😉

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DL January 3, 2017 at 1:27 pm

Donated a small bit, I normally lurk but wanted to chime in here. Recently, and I guess not so recently, there have been a lot of really stupid comments trashing MGS and their testing methods. In my opinion they have gone to GREAT lengths to ensure they are testing in a fair, statistically important and correct way, regardless of marketing dollars. I simply cannot believe we have so many people coming by that don’t seem to get it. My question to them would be: “Why are you still here?”.

The MGS staffers responding on here have the toughest job in the world, typing up responses to those people every day, they deserve a medal!

Anyway, to the MGS staffers, I would like to sincerely thank you for all of your hard work in getting us lowly golfers the BEST information available in the market. Do not get distracted by the idiots and keep up the good work!

One more point: one thing I would like to see robot testing on is the Evnflow putter compared to the top 4. Straight strike vs 1/4″ miss left/right vs 1/2″ miss left/right. I think for that particular test it would be very valuable, not so much with the other testing (I’m with you guys on the robot testing being of lesser value).

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DL January 3, 2017 at 1:30 pm

And of course when I said Evnflow I meant the Evnroll putters, whoops.

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Mike C January 3, 2017 at 11:58 am

Are you able to accept donations from Canada? There’s no way to enter a proper address.

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Carolina Golfer 2 January 3, 2017 at 11:41 am

Done…Thanks for the work you guys do!!

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Christopher Hamelink January 3, 2017 at 3:50 pm

If you want to save a bunch of money on your list of equipment you hope to purchase let me know. I can get the Callaway, Taylormade, and Titleist stuff to you for less than the prices you have listed just by selling it to you at the normal everyday price we offer to everyone out of the shop I work at. And in my opinion, the Epic will live up to its hype. It has very low spin numbers off the face. And I believe the tighter dispersion numbers and straighter ball flight will improve many players game.

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Dave Conner January 3, 2017 at 3:08 pm

What’s being poor have to do with making a donation ? Either you can or you don’t . And by the way my golf is doing this type of testing for us so golf can be cheeper .

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Eljay January 3, 2017 at 9:23 am

My small donation for the site’s excellent work combating corporate bullshit.

Please consider expanding the mid-80s SS testing as there are quite a few old farts who could really benefit by that info.

Keep fighting the good fight.

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Chris January 3, 2017 at 9:07 am

I was about to donate to the cause until I saw that you wanted to use our limited resources to purchase PXGs. Would it not be wiser to acquire some Bridgestones, some Tour Edge and perhaps one or two additional OEMs for the same amount of money you wish to flush towards PXG?

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Uhit January 3, 2017 at 10:24 am

…exactly my thought!

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MyGolfSpy January 3, 2017 at 10:39 am

TourEdge drivers cost $800 plus demand is low. The rest of their line-up has almost zero demand at all. Bridgestone does not seem to be doing much with hard goods for 2017 also very low demand. We get the most demand for reviews of PXG, for the cost, consumers want to see how they perform the most from the feedback we have gotten. Those are the reasons. It comes down to what you guys want to see most and that is how we prioritized the list.

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Uhit January 3, 2017 at 10:59 am

Maybe you could change the demand, if you test them…

…like you did, with EVNROLL and MLA putters…

I bet, that the demand of those was also very low – before you tested them.

The most interesting things are those, who are not that obvious (to the consumer) – isn´t it?

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Chris C. January 9, 2017 at 4:22 pm

Thank you for your response. If you have any money remaining in the cookie jar, I note that Tour Edge just announced the release of the EX10 which will sell for $344.99. It also appears to be available with a decent amount of no upcharge shaft options. Just begging.

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Billy January 3, 2017 at 7:53 am

I’m in.
Hard to find unbiased sources in this day and age of fake media.
We’ll all be part of the matrix someday anyway, resistance is futile…..

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Richard Wheat January 3, 2017 at 11:53 am

What about Volvic?

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Libor Barta January 3, 2017 at 9:53 am

I have just donated because I like that kind of transparency that you claim : “From day 1, we have turned down all advertising dollars from all the major manufacturers. This is the only way to ensure that our testing protocols and the resulting data, remain pure and above the influence. We have poured our hearts and souls into testing the right thing for one purpose: You, the golfer.”

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David W January 3, 2017 at 1:13 am

Done, can’t wait for the results. Love what you guys are doing for the consumer.

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Steven C January 3, 2017 at 12:49 am

I’m in. Can’t wait to see the test results. This is really ambitious.

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Guanto January 3, 2017 at 12:15 am

You guys sure like to block and delete comments (all social media) that challenge anything you preach. Funny thing is they aren’t negative or derogatory from what I’ve seen. Mgs is all about the truth tho right? Please donate but don’t say anything that questions are statements or stories. As long as you keep censoring everything before others see it no one will know better or question your own integrity. I’m sure callaway will be on the other side again next year lol. Good luck

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Destry Hithe January 3, 2017 at 5:14 am

Disappointed to see toured decline, I’ve always liked their hybrids and still use them

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Gordon January 2, 2017 at 11:54 pm

Looking forward to the testing this year, as always.
Keep doing the good work you guys do.
Love MGS approach to real world testing.
Glad to support MGS in this!
Wish I could do more.

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John Pelfrey January 3, 2017 at 4:41 am

Wishon irons, woods and driver? Come on mygolfspy, I would love to see them put to your data testing. I’ve owned my set for 4+ years.

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John Pelfrey January 5, 2017 at 2:37 am

MyGolf Spy? I read through all the data you guys present and it makes me wonder if I can get more out of my game than I do now.

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John Pelfrey January 3, 2017 at 4:34 am

^^^ That guy must have missed the memo and why you do what you do.

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Lyle Lingenfelter January 2, 2017 at 11:25 pm

I’m a PGA Professional who owns my own shop. Give me a quick reply and I’ll save you a significant amount of money on your orders. It may help me hit some minimums with companies that don’t have specific pricing policies and then you can afford a few more lofts / flexes on the drivers or test a few more putters.

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Uhit January 3, 2017 at 6:36 am

Great idea!
Then they have for sure some Money, to also test the Vertical Groove driver!

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Flogguy January 3, 2017 at 12:37 pm

I also agree for example 917 fw woods cost us $210 we save them a whopping $109/Club. Until we have to market it down to make the sale $299. Pretty poor investment to make $89. #Powertothepro, tough business

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Steve Durso January 3, 2017 at 3:08 am

Nothing feels like a Mizuno!

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Jeff Brennan January 3, 2017 at 10:28 pm

Actually Srixons feel better (and I own neither for what it’s worth).

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Andrew January 2, 2017 at 9:55 pm

Point of clarification- will all tested equipment be raffled off, or just the stuff that had to be purchased? ( I’ve already donated, so really just curious…)

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John Shim January 2, 2017 at 9:44 pm

Just donated! Love your testing. And to the extent please make ALL the test data available, even things like outliers that aren’t included in the test results.

Thanks!
John

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mackdaddy January 2, 2017 at 9:42 pm

Any chance you will be testing KZG this season?

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Terry January 2, 2017 at 9:39 pm

Donation will be in when I get up to get my wallet…

I like your website and the work you do. We get inundated with marketing material from the manufacturers and it’s nice to have an honest broker. Would like to see you include a grid for your irons – a layout that measures lofts and lies across the entire set against the manufacturers’ advertised specs. Other than that, please keep up the good work.

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Jeremy Glanzer January 3, 2017 at 1:59 am

Any chance to get JDM brands in the testing? would love to see the japanese brands in the testing.

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Mnfats95 January 2, 2017 at 8:10 pm

I’m confused, no one is forcing anyone to give any money. MGS is simply asking people to donate if they can to help support this testing and add clubs that manufacturers’ are not providing.

Where is all the hate coming from? If you don’t think they do a good job then don’t donate, there is no need to come here and spew venom at them.

Looking forward to the tests MGS!

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JustWellsy January 2, 2017 at 8:08 pm

Don’t bother testing PSI Tour irons. We’llinky be interested in the new Tour irons when they come out

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Brian Smith January 2, 2017 at 8:07 pm

Forgan are one of the oldest club makers in the world, in all my years of playing I have never seen them reviewed. I use their driver and hybrids. The driver has a stiff shaft, 12* of loft and is 1/2 ” longer than standard, I am 5’5″ and 75 years old and still knock it 260 yards out there with this club….Enough said!

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Mike B. January 2, 2017 at 8:00 pm

Just a few thoughts of my own on recent testing. I’m 48, 5.7 handicap and live in Florida. Recently hit the Epic Driver, on a range with real golf balls, not range balls. A PGA pro buddy has it in his bag, not set up properly for me, just wanted to see how it felt. Ever hit a nail with a sledge hammer? That’s as solid a driver that I’ve ever hit, and I’m not a huge Callaway fan, can’t wait to give it a try, properly fitted. That thing could and might be simply amazing, we will see how Rory likes it and the numbers compared to the previous year. Was also looking for new irons, went to get re-fit, and the fitter had PXG on hand and I had to try them. After getting my numbers for my new set, Mizuno JPX 900 Forged, tried the PXG 0311. What a major disappointment. Was waiting for that “holy crap” moment, and it never arrived, and thankful for that. Would never pay that price for irons, but with all the hype, stories and articles written, at least I can say I’ve hit them. No feel, not soft what-so-ever, sounded hollow and between tinny and thunky. Now this is just me, a good friend hit them a few months ago, and absolutely loves them, so he was surprised by my assessment. They are cool as hell looking, especially the dark finish, but not for me. But as I said, that’s my thoughts after hitting them, some may hate my Mizuno’s, and that’s fine. Thanks for reading, Happy New Year to all. “Fairways and greens pards”

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Dave January 2, 2017 at 7:46 pm

I donated, been reading this website for years. I now save hundreds a year in golf balls from switching to Snell. I probably would still have never heard of them and for sure would never have bought them if it wasn’t for the reviews from MyGolfSpy. Thanks Guys

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Kris January 2, 2017 at 7:45 pm

If interested in an unusual small Canadian putter company I have an extra TruRoll putter I could send your way. No affiliation, just somehow ended up with an extra. Obscenely accurate inside 20ft (farther with a little practice).

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Harold w January 2, 2017 at 7:39 pm

Would love to see you test Alpha drivers against any of them. Their 852 was used on champions tour and Keith Fergus won three times in one season using it and was hitting them very long. Need help I can get you clubs for testing.

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Jules January 2, 2017 at 7:23 pm

Question and comment: I assume I am not alone in having previously committed to a monthly donation; I assue that means we don’t have to re-up this this time. Is that correct. There is a reason for preferring donations to subscriptions. That latter limits the number of eyes to those who donate and any sound web business knows that there are two keys to success: eyes and content. You need both and have great content. Restricting eyes to subscribers restricts the number of eyes and that is counterproductive. Of course that means that many subscribers are free-loading which is unfair to donators but there is no way to avoid a version of this problem (game theoretically speaking).
It would be helpful in the name of transparency to indicate the number of donators (both individual basis and monthly), the average donation; and the percentage of subscribers who donate.It would also be helpful to know if there is a monetary shortfall or whether costs are fully covered. I am sure that there are several of us with requisite financial expertise to help with business model if necessary.
I am a bit puzzled by the hostility some readers have exhibited not just for the brands that have declined to participate — after all, a business decision is always about whether the marginal gain exceeds the marginal risk/cost. If you are Titleist, you have more to lose than gain in most circumstances of this sort; and even if that is true in the case of Golf Digest, there is an expectation developed over years that they will participate; I am most puzzled by some of the hostility expressed towards MGS, which only goes to prove you can’t make everyone happy —
BTW, I play PXG irons after years of playing just about everything else and they are anything but strong lofted Pings — and I much admire Pings. PXG drivers — at least in this iteration — would be much better were they no more than rebranded Pings. But the irons are genuinely special.

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Mike Smith January 2, 2017 at 7:06 pm

With all due repect… I will not be donating as I need to save for new clubs which in purchase solely from what major OEM tell me to buy

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MyGolf Spy January 3, 2017 at 12:01 am

Then don’t donate.

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Kent Mayer January 2, 2017 at 7:00 pm

Good work :)

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Alden Carter January 2, 2017 at 6:36 pm

Hey, what’s that putter Retief Goosen was using at the recent father soon tourney?

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Kent Mayer January 2, 2017 at 6:27 pm

I appreciate your hard work and sticking to your golf guns.

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yvon masse January 2, 2017 at 6:11 pm

You should be able to borrow these clubs to a pro shop near you as a demo instead of buying it,so you wont have to ask money to everybody,that does not look professionnel at all

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MyGolfSpy January 2, 2017 at 6:54 pm

Yeah pro shops don’t give out loaners for 10,000 shot tests. At the 10,000 shot mark you bought it.

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Stevegp January 2, 2017 at 5:58 pm

I am interested in supporting your projects. You genuinely provide golfers a valuable service. I will donate to support your efforts.

I really would like to see you include Bridgestone clubs in your tests.

Regarding PXG, I agree with several others that there are not many golfers who can afford or be willing to spend those amounts for their clubs. Please at least reconsider whether your money would be better spent on buying and testing other companies’ clubs.

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Justin Molinari January 2, 2017 at 10:51 pm

God bless your site! Hope you get every club needed to test them all. Used the vice ball thanks to you guys and loved it!

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Avid Supporter January 2, 2017 at 5:27 pm

Please please please
Do some testing for ACTUAL lofts and face angles of the driver and fairways, so that we can see what’s actually labeled, as well as what actually happens when the adjustments are made.
Thank you very much.
Avid Supporter

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Monte Paschal January 2, 2017 at 9:58 pm

Will MyGolf Spy be releasing an approximate calendar of when each category of results is expected to be available?

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Sean January 2, 2017 at 4:27 pm

Interesting and I like the idea. I’d donate and win a set of irons that I couldn’t play, I’m sure. Probably aren’t ordering many iron sets +1″ and a few degrees upright, are you?

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Lawton January 2, 2017 at 5:57 pm

Sean, like you, the generic off the rack irons would not fit me, but I’d happily haul them down to Pete’s Golf, my local fitter to have them custom adjusted. We could get a real bargain? PXG irons for the price of our donation.

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Scott Justus January 2, 2017 at 9:26 pm

I thought the M1 was now $399 not $499 and what happened to the M1 from last year?

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Uhit January 2, 2017 at 4:25 pm

Bridgestone???
Cure putters??
TourEdge?

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Ben L Goergen January 2, 2017 at 4:48 pm

Tour edge is on the list of declined

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Uhit January 3, 2017 at 6:56 am

…yes, just like PXG…
…however, they buy and test PXG but not Tour Edge…

I´m more interested in the Vertical Groove driver, or the ALPHA C830.2 Plasma driver
, than in PXG.

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ole gray January 2, 2017 at 4:04 pm

I’m surprised that TaylorMade did not agree to support testing and not so much that Titleist and PXG decided not to. Anyways I threw a few bucks in to support the testing and I suggest my friends do the same. Don’t you want to know before you spend your hard earned money on expensive new equipment, whether it lives up to speculation or not? I do!

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John Hansen January 2, 2017 at 8:36 pm

I agree with ole gray. I am a full on supporter of TaylorMade and wished they supported the testing more but that does not mean I will not switch at the slightest chance for something proven to be better and who better the MGS and my fellow testers to show me the light.
Count on a donation to fight the good fight.

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STEVE jesus January 2, 2017 at 4:02 pm

Would dearly love to have you test the Maltby clubs. Been using them for years.

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Ryan Crespi January 2, 2017 at 8:58 pm

I support the cause! Just donated. Can’t wait for this years most wanted results.

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Christian Furu January 2, 2017 at 8:57 pm

The future for big brands is choosing their channel – picking bloggers or magazines/websites they can control. They’ve been doing it for a while, but it’ll be even worse in the future.

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Chris John January 4, 2017 at 11:49 am

Why do you think Mygolfspy exists? Lol

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Jordan January 2, 2017 at 3:55 pm

Bridgestone?

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Danny McKay Wright January 2, 2017 at 8:54 pm

Please test Scott Golf irons too. They will surely perform with/or better than the best

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jaskanski January 2, 2017 at 3:52 pm

It comes as no surprise that the leading market brands declined to participate. They have nothing to prove, but at the same time they also know that each individual end-user will be different and have a completely unique set of user requirements. Titleist has certainly done this before in not submitting clubs for testing because the results are completely meaningless to anyone else.
No surprise either that those struggling for a chunk of the market share have no quibbles about getting their product to market by any means – after all, any publicity is good publicity right? What I would say is that magazine and website testing does play a role in making consumers aware of products and how they potentially stack up against the competition. What is a fact however is that consumers also have a pretty good chance of making their OWN minds up with a simple demo – and it can cut through the BS pretty quickly in terms of what looks, feels and performs to personal taste.
So naturally, I always encourage anyone to try for themselves before reading too much into what someone else has written about a piece of equipment, regardless of how impartial it may be. With the possible exception of of the more “niche” brands, it’s pretty easy to demo any of the products on the list and make an informed opinion on it – making the quest for $34000+ rather pointless. Seriously though, you really expect to go and buy a Scotty Cameron to tell someone how to putt? Get over yourselves.

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Nick Maresca January 2, 2017 at 8:51 pm

I donated a smidge. If you need an Epic SZ I’ll mail you mine – kidding. I got it 3 weeks ago – pretty happy with it so far. Much more forgiving than the Alpha 816 DBD. Can’t wait for the 2017 season to start!

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Matt Judge January 2, 2017 at 8:59 pm

More forgiving than the 816 DBD?!? That’s what I am gaming and waiting to see the numbers in real life in Orlando in a couple weeks. How are the spin numbers? That’s where I lose some yardage.

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Nick Maresca January 2, 2017 at 9:06 pm

I don’t have any numbers. I do know that when I’m swinging well I hit the 816 pretty good but when I wasn’t swinging well it was pretty bad. I really haven’t swung in a month and when I took the Epic to the range I was pretty surprised with spin and distance (used same shaft as in 816). I’m not a numbers guy – I base my club decisions on look, feel, and performance.

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Nick Maresca January 2, 2017 at 10:01 pm

Some Callaway club professionals have already received Epic club heads.

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Chris Leake January 3, 2017 at 11:38 pm

I had my epic in hand December 4th

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Craig Wayman January 2, 2017 at 8:50 pm

PXG !!! has anyone ever thought why they used the 1st and last letter from the clubs that they are based on??
Overrated strong lofted expensive Ping may have been a better name

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Gary Potter January 2, 2017 at 8:57 pm

What about the EPIC Craig? Could be a new toy for me. Haha.

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Craig Wayman January 2, 2017 at 9:00 pm

I’m sure it will be fine however I personally hate Callaway drivers as all that movement on the adaptors has to loose efficiency. That poor little torque screw is holding everything together 🤔

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Uhit January 3, 2017 at 10:39 am

The Callaway and Titleist adaptors are a real mess in my opinion…

…however, the TM adaptor is also not that great constructed…

I think, that the Ping and the Cobra adaptors are providing the best contact between shaft and head.

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Mark Brown January 2, 2017 at 8:46 pm

Toulon is effectively listed 3 times

3 on black list, likely when promoted, all private companies. That’s significant

Ping doesn’t care. They are profitable beyond comprehension from other interests

I’m sure I have more thoughts, but I’m at CVS in line for my ‘I’m crazy’ meds

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Greg Elliott January 2, 2017 at 9:28 pm

lol I can vouch for ping… best irons I’ve ever owned.. for whatever that’s worth.. lol

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Tom January 2, 2017 at 3:45 pm

Omg! Your precious PXG doesn’t support unbiased testing!

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MyGolfSpy January 2, 2017 at 3:50 pm

We don’t care about names. You see their name listed right there for all the public to see. Transparency.

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Mark Brown January 2, 2017 at 8:41 pm

You’ll understand the Epic decision in time. At that time, you’ll regret the asterisk; that is, with all due respect to your site.

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MyGolf Spy January 2, 2017 at 8:48 pm

LOL. We know why they chose not to. And no we will never regret testing products that are available at retail for consumers. That is, with all due respect to you.

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Jamie January 2, 2017 at 4:35 pm

Don’t want to put you in an awkward spot but can you at least allude to why Cally is choosing not to include the EPIC?

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Danny January 2, 2017 at 6:06 pm

MGS, I’m very much on your side in this whole thing, just curious why you think they are not supplying the driver?

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James T January 2, 2017 at 4:34 pm

So Mark… tell us about the decision. Come clean.

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Peter Mazza January 2, 2017 at 10:00 pm

I’m still confused why Mark hates factual information…what did information ever do to piss you off so much?

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Mark Brown January 2, 2017 at 10:13 pm

Peter Mazza couldn’t be more wrong podz. Let’s just disagree. It’ll all become apparent in time. You’ll know what I mean 👊✌️

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Peter Mazza January 2, 2017 at 10:23 pm

Done..

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Ben Goergen January 2, 2017 at 8:38 pm

I assume you guys will just use your own and include them like previous years, which maybe pxg being an exception? surprised pxg declined when you just wrote a pretty nice article about them didn’t you.

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Brett Wagner January 2, 2017 at 3:36 pm

Its disappointing that Tour Edge declined to participate and their clubs will not be tested. Have enjoyed several Exotics offerings.

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Jeff Tavone January 2, 2017 at 8:36 pm

Looking forward to see how Srixon Z765 and Cleveland RTX3 wedges measures up

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Bobby Leek January 2, 2017 at 10:51 pm

Them 765’s are the best feeling iron I have ever hit. If you have a chance to hit them, give them a serious look.

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Terry January 2, 2017 at 9:26 pm

Got the Z765s a couple weeks ago. In my opinion, they are every bit as good as advertised. They’re solid. Long irons are longer than expected. Short irons are about the same distance as expected but have an exceptionally low ball flight. Very nice. As for the Cleveland RTX3s, they’re Cleveland wedges. They’ll be great.

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Paul Kielwasser January 2, 2017 at 8:31 pm

I have a feeling TM knows no statistically significant differences will show from last year’s M1/M2.

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Oscar Johansson January 2, 2017 at 8:40 pm

I love TM, but this comment is so true.

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Brett Frimmer January 2, 2017 at 8:44 pm

Which in a sense is a testament to how good those clubs were.

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Fraser Beach January 2, 2017 at 8:31 pm

Could Kirkland Balls have anything to do with Titleists decision??

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MyGolf Spy January 2, 2017 at 8:33 pm

Titleist declined to participate prior to those results as well.

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Ron Holmes January 2, 2017 at 6:14 pm

Flip it and you have your answer…the KSig is pimped so hard because Titleist doesn’t provide clubs…

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MyGolfSpy January 2, 2017 at 6:53 pm

Oh you guys, think you have it all figured out. yet you know so little. Titleist has not participated for years. WAY before the K-SIG test. We don’t give a shit.

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Chris John January 4, 2017 at 11:51 am

They don’t participate in any 3rd party testing and never have, so no

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Fraser Beach January 4, 2017 at 5:18 pm

Poor, they are great balls, i play them , but its time to reduce their prices and get competitive!!

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Jimmy Palmieri January 2, 2017 at 8:31 pm

The epic isn’t even out yet… why WOULD they provide ?

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MyGolf Spy January 2, 2017 at 8:33 pm

They provided for Golf Digest for their testing and that came before ours. Typically these manufacturers provide product that has not been released for sites like ours and GD.

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John Porter January 2, 2017 at 8:49 pm

The ACTUAL results probably won’t align with Callaway’s *marketing claims.

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Chris Leake January 3, 2017 at 11:37 pm

I’ve had my epic since early December and I picked up 3-5 mph ball speed. I let my other professional friends hit it and it was 4 mph faster than his new 917 driver.

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Paul Kielwasser January 2, 2017 at 8:30 pm

PXG?! Ha! Of all companies I think they’d have the most to lose. Figures! No need to take a chance and show the world that $5000 for a bag of clubs isn’t getting one the performance they’re being sold.

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Mark Bauer January 2, 2017 at 8:37 pm

I guess PXG can’t handle the truth.

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Rand Feura January 2, 2017 at 4:12 pm

We NEED MyGolfSpy on that wall! I’m donating now…

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Paul Kielwasser January 2, 2017 at 8:38 pm

Mark Bauer The good thing is their clubs will be in the trials whether they like it or not! D’oh!!!!

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Geoff Morrison January 2, 2017 at 8:45 pm

I’ve hit them. I have a feeling they will do quite well.

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Jeff Brennan January 2, 2017 at 9:28 pm

I have also hit PXG’s and wish I could even remotely afford them (because ya… they are that good). Everyone hates on PXG because they can’t afford them.

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Paul Kielwasser January 2, 2017 at 10:16 pm

Jeff Brennan I only know who I’ve talked to who own the clubs, I can’t speak for “everyone”. All three haven’t seen the performance difference between their irons that cost $1000 and the PXGs. And I’m not hating, just a guess that any “chink” in the armor from performance that likely won’t show to be head-and-shoulders above the rest would diminish the interest by some. Lord knows, I can afford them, I just haven’t seen justification for purchasing them. Some buy them JUST to show they CAN afford them… Anyway, just a hunch on my part. We’ll never know the truth, I’m sure.

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Jeff Gonzales January 5, 2017 at 4:08 am

Because PXG probably doesn’t care what the testing shows. Parsons is flush with cash and doesn’t care what it costs to make the best products (not including the driver yet). He is a tinkerer, except when he tinkers, he builds his own factory.

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Kc Leonard January 2, 2017 at 8:29 pm

Is this the first time TMAG declined?

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MyGolf Spy January 2, 2017 at 8:31 pm

No.

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Kc Leonard January 2, 2017 at 8:35 pm

Oh I thought they usually participated

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MyGolf Spy January 2, 2017 at 8:36 pm

We purchased their equipment from retail last year as well.

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