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Know Your Japanese Brands: Miura

In this series, MyGolfSpy will introduce you to a variety of Japanese equipment companies. Think of it like speed dating, but a bit slower and without all of the awkwardness.

As you’d expect, these companies have a stronger following in Asia, and to a lesser degree, Europe. Additionally, all are at different stages of “trying to figure out North America”  – meaning they all realize the cache of potential customers in North America and the opportunity for growth which exists if and when they can capitalize on it. These companies offer a variety of product lines, price points, and technologies.

In some cases, there are feuds between companies, and all have diehard customer bases. Some names are familiar, and others likely won’t ring any sort of bell.

But they’re all bound by a common identity, one rooted in a particular geographic location where golf is status and forged irons are their own form of currency.

GROUNDING

While there are exceptions, the following is typical of Japanese equipment companies.

They all claim to produce premium forged irons and boast an attention to detail. As a result, most are not large volume operations and prioritize quality over quantity. Few ascribe to traditional 18 or 24-month product cycles, so designs which are 3-5 years old aren’t uncommon.

Japanese companies play to the value of a club as more than a tool to advance the ball around the course. Many of them articulate the design and production of clubs as a quest for perfection. In that context, these companies regard equipment as implements which connect the golfer to the game, and performance isn’t defined by a single measurement of ball speed.

People refer to companies as JDM or Japanese Domestic Market. All this term means is they produce equipment intended primarily for the Japanese market. There isn’t anything inherently better with JDM clubs specific to the materials used to create them.  They do, however,  feature specs and designs which appeal and fit the target market of Asia.

Japanese clubs are more expensive, although as prices across the board have increased, the price gap between JDM and non-JDM equipment has narrowed. For example, the TaylorMade P750 Tour Proto irons start at $200/club. The Callaway Apex Pro comes in at $150/club off the rack. Some of the premium JDM prices have to do with increased labor costs associated with hand finishing and adherence to tighter tolerances. Another contributing factor is golf in Japan is a form of social status, and people are willing (and expect) to pay higher prices for equipment and other golf related expenses.

Because of their attention to detail, demand for tight tolerances and refined forging processes, these companies often forge clubs for other manufacturers. For example, Endo(EPON)  forges for Srixon and Bridgestone. Miura has forged for TaylorMade and others. This list is not inclusive, but you get the picture.

MIURA Irons and Wedges-14

MIURA – ORIGIN STORY

Katsuhiro Miura (founder of Miura Golf) began forging golf clubs in 1957 in Himeji, Japan. Before the 1950s, this area of Japan was well known for the ancient art of Samurai sword making. While the two techniques don’t have anything substantive to do with each other, the appreciation for forged metal as both art and product remains a cultural reality. Katsuhiro, who is responsible for design and manufacturing, works in the factory on a daily basis, where’s he’s spent decades teaching his two sons, Yoshitaka and Shinei, his techniques. It’s reasonable to expect they will take over for their father when the time comes.

Over the last 60 years, the Miura family has become synonymous with quality Japanese forgings, establishing credibility in part by forging clubs for other OEM’s premium lines and fielding requests from individual players. However, because of contractual agreements, player names are never published. To date, Miura has released ten series of clubs, only introducing a new model when there’s demonstrably different and better performance.

This is a small family run operation where each and every club head passes through a rigorous inspection at the Miura owned forge and factory in Himeji, Japan. Part of this process includes hand finishing by a master craftsman. While the factory isn’t running at full capacity, don’t expect Miura to become a mass-produced iron, regardless of new ownership. Speaking of which…

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LANDSCAPE

Miura is the midst of a structural reorganization.  Earlier this year, Howard Milstein became the majority owner and named Hoyt McGarity (CEO and founder of True Spec club fitting) as president. Milstein is Co-chairman of the privately held Nicklaus Companies and President/CEO of the nation’s largest family-owned and privately run bank.

This is significant because the large cash infusion provides Miura space to take full stock of current practices, refresh marketing efforts and reorganize North American distribution channels.

That said, don’t expect Miura to stray far from it’s hand-crafted, niche identity. McGarity states,

“PXG isn’t our competitor…Miura isn’t here to disrupt the world.” This isn’t throwing shade at PXG or any other company, but the salient point here is Miura isn’t setting out to change who they are as much as they’re engaging in a process to refine their identity and clean up what’s a rather cluttered and scattered image.

As a privately held company, it’s reluctant to release and data regarding sales, revenue or market share. Holding this information close to the vest isn’t abnormal for privately held companies, but it does make it difficult to quantify the bottom-line impact of any strategic changes in product line, distribution or marketing. The upside is you’re not inclined to chase sales numbers which may or may not be indicative of where a company is at relative to it’s stated goals.

MIURA Irons and Wedges-4

Regarding “figuring out North America,” Miura is a bit ahead in this race largely due to the hiring of McGarity. Because of his already established distribution networks, Miura is able to access an infrastructure other companies don’t yet have.

A question worth considering is what happens should demand does start to exceed supply? Miura isn’t capable nor do they want to become mass produced. So, relative to wherever they’re at now, how much more can or do they want to grow?

CURRENT LINE

MIURA Irons and Wedges-10

As with everything else, this is a work in progress. McGarity inherited a product line which is admittedly too deep in some areas, too old in others, and across the board lacking in clarity and cohesion.

The first step is to simplify the line, but because this change in ownership occurred mid-cycle, there are still several years of inventory remaining for some of the current models. This means any decisions around new designs aren’t likely to surface for at least the next two years and even then, it’s more likely Miura will replace individual clubs rather than an entire line.

Irons and wedges are what Miura does best, and this is showcased in what Miura will focus on in 2017. People who gush about Miura generally have experience with one of the player-oriented CB or MB models. That said, the more forgiving models tend to sell best. Let’s take a closer look…

Irons

For 2017, Miura will showcase four lines of irons. The MB-001, CB-57, PP-9003 and PP-9005 Genesis. Essentially, you have a muscle back blade, players CB, a larger profile players CB and a multi-material max game-improvement iron.

MIURA Irons and Wedges-12

The MB-001 and CB-57 are quintessential Miura irons. Both are geared toward better ball strikers who are seeking consistent performance and shot-shaping ability. Like the MB-001 and CB-57, the PP-9003 is a two-piece forged club but is incrementally more forgiving and higher launching.

The PP-9005 G may appear new, but it’s already been around in Japan for two years, where it’s been quite popular. Miura sold through initial inventory more quickly than expected. This iron is unlike others in that it features forged body and 455 Carpenter Steel face for increased ball speeds. Purists will note this iron receives final inspection at the Himeji plant in Japan, but part of the club is manufactured in Taiwan.

Miura does offer several models (blade and CB) for lefties. Check out Miura’s website for specs.

Grind Relief Lofts LH? Material
Y Heel/Toe 49, 51, 53, 60 No Soft Carbon
C  Aggressive Heel/Toe 55, 57, 59 No Soft Carbon
K Fluted 52, 56, 60 No Soft Carbon
Wedge None 51,53,55,57,59 Yes Soft Carbon
PP-WOI Cavity Back Model 48, 52, 56 No SUS 304

MIW-1

In my testing, the strength of this line up is highlighted by the CB-57 and the Genesis. The 57 feels every bit as pure as the MB-001, and the extra bit of forgiveness was always welcome. The 9005-G (Genesis) produced the highest initial launch angle and ball speeds. However, with less mass directly behind the ball, the feel was less dense than the CB-57 and MB-001.

For me, the Genesis does everything the PP-9003 does, although the additional offset and thicker topline might be enough to dissuade some purists. In terms of cost, most Miura irons will start between $235-$300/head, depending on which shaft is selected. As previously noted, the Genesis comes in a bit higher at $350/head.

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WHAT MAKES MIURA DIFFERENT

Miura defines quality as the ability to deliver clubs with the tightest spec tolerances in the industry. Speaking with several high-end club builders, they uniformly praised Miura for its quality control and ability to construct clubheads exactly on spec, which makes the building process more precise.

How a club feels is ridiculously difficult to assess and while everyone wants something that feels good we all have slightly different definitions of what good is. With that, I describe Miura as dense, firm and responsive.  Conversely, I wouldn’t describe it as overly soft, nor would I use adjectives like hollow or clicky to describe impact.

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2017 OUTLOOK

This year will be one where Miura focuses first on marketing and branding, relying on a new website and direct-to-consumer platform to bring the company in line with other OEMs. The intent is to leverage available marketing and brand building avenues to widen the audience while refining its image.

From there, the effort will be organizational as the entire line is in a state of flux, but Miura needs to press on with what’s already in inventory while deciding the makeup of future lines.

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Once everyone has caught their collective breath, expect 2018 to further clarify what clubs Miura will produce moving forward and what role Miura-Giken will play. Miura-Giken is the label used for clubs released only in the Japanese market with slight modifications for that population. Miura recently announced the availability of the CB-2008 for select fitters and for now, the intention is to purposely limit their availability to select (higher volume) accounts.

WHY PEOPLE ARE CRITICAL and SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT HAVE REALIZED

  • Hoyt McGarity owns True Spec Golf, one of the premier club fitters in the world. He’s also the president of Miura Golf.  True Spec currently has 15 locations on three continents and employ a brand agnostic fitting approach, meaning they carry myriad brands and the only criteria is matching clients with the best performing equipment for them, whether it be Miura or any other brand. McGarity promises his dual role won’t have any negative implications for either business, but the conflict of interest is there, even if it’s just theoretical at this point
  • Miura forges irons in two pieces by spin-welding the hosel and head together. Miura says this proprietary process allows them to be more precise in controlling the head weight, loft and lie. Competitors claim this additional step interrupts the energy flow leading to a less desirable feel at impact. This is also what competitors mean when they refer to a club as either a one-piece (hosel and clubhead forged from one piece of metal) or two-piece (spin-welded hosels) forging.
  • With the reorganization, the “sky is falling” contingent already wants to believe Miura has tipped too far over its skis. By admitting a desire to grow the brand, the fear is quality will suffer, and any new product will be a watered-down version of what Miura produced previously. Critics have cited the new Genesis iron, which is partially produced in Taiwan, as evidence – without realizing this iron has been on the market well before Milstein and McGarity entered the picture. It sold out quickly in Japan and like every other Miura iron, it goes through the same ridiculously stringent quality control checks in Himeji.

For now, it’s more prudent to take McGarity at his word and let the process play out. Miura’s chief selling point is that it isn’t mass produced and you have to think part of the conversation with Mr. Milstein centered on a financial arrangement which would allow Miura to maintain it’s identity and grow in a manner which leveraged its history rather than trying to exploit it.

Questions? What else would you like to know? Thoughts? Hopes? Dreams?

 

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      Mike

      3 years ago

      Just placed an order of Miura irons and had I known they were sold to the US corp BS, I would’ve gone with PXG instead. PXG has superior quality since miura is no longer forged in Japan. I don’t do anything stein because they are just a bunch of greedy liars. scamstein will manufacture the clubs in china and use the miura name to market it. That is exactly what I get from this article. I don’t do business with scam-steins!

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      George Hanson

      7 years ago

      “This is significant because the large cash infusion provides Miura space to take full stock of current practices, refresh marketing efforts and reorganize North American distribution channels.”

      How much was the “cash infusion”? If we don’t know the scope of Miura’s sales/business, how do we know it was large? How much of the business was sold?

      “A question worth considering is what happens should demand does start to exceed supply? Miura isn’t capable nor do they want to become mass produced. So, relative to wherever they’re at now, how much more can or do they want to grow?”

      If they don’t want to be mass produced, aren’t capable of mass production, and there are doubts about how much the can or want to grow — why take the “large cash infusion” in the first place?

      If there really is a deal in place here I suspect in the medium term Miura will regret it — Milstein looks like a snake oil salesman and New York Private Bank & Trust is eerily reminiscent of…

      …I don’t think this ends well.

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      Gary

      7 years ago

      I genuinely fear for Miura now that they have made this decision to sell out, almost feels like they’ve sold their soul to the corporate devil.

      I’ve played Miura irons for a number of years starting off with a set of CB-201’s then swapped for a set of CB-202’s and then I bought cheap a set of CB-301’s to use in the winter to save my CB-501’s that I love….so much so I bought another set to keep in the locker at my 2 clubs where I’m a member. I also bought another set of 301/blade combos to keep in the car boot for quick evening games (God I hope I wife doesn’t see this and start googling!)

      I know the Genesis models aren’t aimed at my level of players but they just look so far away from what Miura irons even game improvement ones ‘should’ look like and as for the price tag it’s just a joke, appears more to be wanting to compete with PXG and forgetting about what made them so successful in the first place!

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      Johnny Cowboy

      7 years ago

      if you play forged irons make sure you regularly check the loft and lie as this will change no doubt

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      Kerry Cole

      7 years ago

      I have owned numerous sets of Miura irons and without out a doubt they are a superb mfg of irons/wedges/putters. I presently play a set of MB-007 and a set of CB-57 irons.. having just sold my Edel irons.. Trust me the difference is between night an day in iron play.. The Edel irons feel like and sound like tin when you hit them whereas the Miuras have a very solid yet soft feel/sound. They are well worth the money. I find for my play that the CB 57 & the MB-001 are their finest clubs and they both are very similar in their results. I still like the Edel putters that are custom made for your swing and it is a tie between the Edel Wedges and the Miura Wedges..

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      Shortside

      7 years ago

      I’ve never been a big “brand” guy. If it has a thin top line, feels good and my distances are consistent I’m happy.

      That said Miura’s have long been the brand I absolutely gawk at. Works of art I say. If I ever “invest” in a set they’re way up there on the list.

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      Chuck Forst

      7 years ago

      I had a set of 102 best irons I ever played

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      Skip

      7 years ago

      Totally agree on your description of the feel of Miura. Dense, firm and responsive. The MG stuff imo however (MB5005, CB1008) does have that soft buttery feel that you also get from an Endo product.

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      Darren Tan

      7 years ago

      I’ve been playing the PP9003 for the last 3 years now and simply love it. I doubt I will go into the MB line as the PPs are just nice for me in terms of top line and also forgiveness.
      Will be looking forward to more articles like this as I simply adore JDM clubs.

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      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      Darren – Thanks for the read. Any particular brands peak your interest? We have several more lined up, but always looking for ideas.

      Reply

      Darren Tan

      7 years ago

      Hi Chris, I assume Epon is on your list so I’ll skip that. I love their clean designs especially the AF-302 although I haven’t hit any of them. Maybe I’ll check them out when it’s time to replace my PPs.

      I tried the Romaro irons before I bought my PPs and somehow I felt they were softer at impact. I did not buy them as I wasn’t convinced about the fitting I was getting. Price wise I think it was just slightly cheaper than the PPs.

      Also managed to hit the ONOFF Kuro irons (2015) and they felt solid as well. Only problem was the lack of a good fitter as these were all from the rack.

      I’ve heard good things about Royal Collection, Vega, Yamaha but price wise they were either too close or exceed my Miuras (sans fitting) so it was a no go.

      Lastly I also tested the Itobori irons and wedges but their price was way off the charts. The hand grinds are a work of art though.

      Steve Simpson

      7 years ago

      I know Vega irons are Kyoei forgings but Kyoei also has their own line as well as forging many other JDM products. I recently bought a set of Gauge Design GA-M1 heads (3-pw) and TCG wedges (52*,56*,60*). Kyoei seems a little under the radar in North America at least compared to Miura. There seems to be much more written about Miura than Kyoei but I believe they are very close to equal in both feel and quality. Looking forward to future articles on all JDM products.

      Jiro

      7 years ago

      Darren-The PP 9003s are my current gamers too. I tried the CB 57s and CB 501s as well but liked the larger heads on the passing points. They have the nice clean looks like the other two but with the forgiveness of a GI club. Fun sticks to play.

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      Darren Tan

      7 years ago

      Jiro, I agree totally. The PPs were just more forgiving than the 501s and that sealed the deal. Clean GI irons with the thin topline are very rare.

      When the day comes to replace them, it will be a tough decision.

      Jiro

      7 years ago

      I like the looks of the Miura line. Something about the aesthetics of the JDMs in general appeal to me with the clean and simple lines. I have noticed some of the American OEMs heading this way in recent offerings and am a fan. That is why I am not as much In love with the looks of the Neos, they just don’t quite have the same aesthetic, but they are growing on me.
      I would put the PP 9003 in the GI category with the bigger heads and offset–they have some thinner top lines and soles compared to some others in that category so maybe a tweener club similar to like a mizuno jpx forged.
      Nice article Chris, looking forward to future installments to get to know some of the other JDMs.

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      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      Jiro – It’s interesting to see how some of the dynamics play out as some JDMs developed followings based on forged MB/CB style clubs and now are looking to incorporate more GI clubs. Miura would be in this category. Others (like Honma) have a bit of a different path which will cover in an upcoming article. If there are particular JDM companies you’d like to see covered, please let us know!

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      Jiro

      7 years ago

      Honma, Epon, Fourteen for sure. Sounds like you already have the first two in the works. Those are probably the ones that those of us in the states have at least heard of outside of the main Japanese OEMs that are on the tour. Another one might be Yonex–I think I saw some pictures on this site a few weeks back that looked interesting.

      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      Jiro – Thanks for the feedback and ideas. Some of those are on the list and some are already in process. Right now Vega is up next!

      Max

      7 years ago

      After discovering the JDM market, I’ve been shopping around on https://www.tourspecgolf.com for a few months. Wow! If you are forged player’s iron fan, you will have to hold on to your wallet. Some VERY good looking clubs on there.

      Reply

      Adam

      7 years ago

      Google Global Rakuten and buy directly from Japan and save a tonne of money compared to tourspecgolf!

      Reply

      Adam

      7 years ago

      Interesting article, so lets get to know the JDM brand MIrua! , Miura has not been sold at all to to TrueSpec. The have only acquired the rights to distribute the brand globally that is Miura Golf as distinct from Miura Giken. So clearly only the distribution rights have been sold not the brand or company – This should be clarified ! Secondly their irons in particular the Genisis irons are made in “China” that is clear from the Miura Giken website. The Passing Point Neo wedges are also made in China. The Passing Point Neo UT is made in Taiwan. I have not seen anything else by Miura to suggest otherwise the PP Genesis irons are partly made in Taiwan. Lastly yes Miura irons are forged but they are not forged by themselves “in-house” the forging is outsourced to another Japanese company, it maybe a misconception that also needs further clarification as to whether Miura actually forges their own irons!

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      Brian

      7 years ago

      You make the distinction between China and Taiwan simpler than many, though I’ll readily admit I don’t know how the international courts would rule on the issue – especially when it comes to country of origin labelling. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%2C_China?wprov=sfla1

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      Adam

      7 years ago

      Point noted, though I am quoting the distinction made by Miura – so I would view they have clubs made in Mainland China!. I live in Hong Kong & Thailand. HK is HK not China though technically it is China. No one in HK will say the live in China (that being Mainland China) they say HK as they are a different ethnic Chinese that being predominantly of Cantonese. Taiwan is Taiwan and is not uncommon to refer to people from Taiwan as Taiwanese or Taiwan Chinese When in Asia when we refer to Chinese, we mean the Chinese from China (unless it is ver clear we are talking ethnicity), not HK Chinese, or HK Cantonese Chinese, nor Singapore Chinese, Thai, Indonesian, Malaysian or Vietnamese Chinese.

      All the countries mentioned above yes all do have ethnic Chinese and referring to people as Chinese by ethnicity is fine, but heaven forbid if I make a reference to someone being Chinese from China, when they are not is asking for trouble and causes offence. The same in making distinction in business for region. For example KBS shafts are made in Taiwan, Taiwan is notable for steel making, but if we say they are made in China, perception may lead to being viewed as an inferior product and FST would taken offence!

      Yes whilst I have made the distinction simple, a “great many” in the Asia Pacific region do as well.

      But back to Miura I hope the “new distributor” and not “new owner” makes significant in roads in getting Miura into hands of many golfers

      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      Adam – This already was clarified in the article. No one is suggesting Miura was sold to TrueSpec. Harvey Milstein is the now the majority owner and as stated, TrueSpec’s top dog, Hoyt McGarity, was tapped to serve as President of Miura, specific to North American distribution, so I’m not sure where you’re getting the “TrueSpec owns Miura” angle – but that’s not at all in line with what we published.

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      Adam

      7 years ago

      YEs I am fully aware that Miura is not sold only the distribution rights, but the article does have some ambiguity on that point –

      “While the factory isn’t running at full capacity, don’t expect Miura to become a mass-produced iron, regardless of new ownership. Speaking of which…”

      Your article seems to imply that it has!

      But anyway I hope we can see more Miura clubs and irons in the hands of avid golfers around the world!

      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      Adam – Yes, perhaps I could clarify that what Milstein owns is a majority stake in the worldwide distribution of Miura, not Miura per se. Regardless, it is new ownership as stated. I’m not sure if that hair is worth splitting. The larger and more salient point remains – Miura is in a process of reorganization and with that comes some new energy and financial backing which gives it a different outlook than before.

      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      Adam – Let me clarify several of your assertions, which are not entirely accurate.

      First, the Miura family has control over the entire forging process. Because the “first strike” does not occur at the main Miura factory, some want to claim this means forging is “outsourced” which one could infer means a loss of oversight. The truth is the first strike occurs just down the road from the main Miura factory at a separate Miura facility. The rest of the process is completed at the main Miura factory.

      Secondly, the Genesis (PP 9005) starts as a single billet of soft carbon which is sent from Himeji to Taiwan to have the 455 carpenter steel face attached. It then returns to Miura, where a final inspection must be passed before being shipped out.

      Hope this clears up some of the confusion.

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      Adam

      7 years ago

      That does clarify the confusion, now I am more educated on Miura!.
      Now lets hope the reorganisation will allow more avid golfers to play with Miura irons! Thanks Chris.

      Adam Fonseca

      7 years ago

      Good article Chris,

      I currently play the Miura MB-001 irons and they are wonderful, wonderful clubs. Custom-fit, pured shafts, all the bells and whistles. Yet I’m a 10-handicap who doesn’t get a chance to play more than twice a month and cannot shake the feeling that maybe I’m better off playing a cavity back or something similar. (Note: I received the clubs as part of a deal to review them for my website)

      This may sound like sacrilege to some, but I’m actually considering switching back to irons that fall closer to the “game improvement” category.

      Boutique brands are not without their biases and perceptions, as well. Not that I should care what others think, but when playing with a set of $3000 clubs, your playing partners expect you to play in a certain way.

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      JV

      7 years ago

      That’s what I did and I don’t regret it at all. I actually have the MB-001s in the garage and use them nightly for practice. Love the look and feel and makes me put a good swing on them to get results. I game my Mizunos and the increased sweet spot on the course makes me feel like i can’t miss … though i sometimes do!

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      craig

      7 years ago

      To JV,
      there is no such thing as an increased sweet spot on ANY given club. That ranges from your driver to your putter. The sweet spot on any given club wether it be a game improvement club or a forged blade is the same size. The size of a pin prick.

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