MGS Labs – Fitted (vs) Non-Fitted Putters Part II
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MGS Labs – Fitted (vs) Non-Fitted Putters Part II

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MGS Labs – Fitted (vs) Non-Fitted Putters Part II

In Part 1 of our putter fitting study, we looked at the differences between the putters 20 golfers had in their bags and what PING’s experts fit them for. If you missed it, it’s definitely worth checking out as the fitting results alone suggest that basically everyone who hasn’t been fit for a putter is probably playing the wrong putter.

Today we dig in a little deeper to see what impact a fitted putter has on actual performance. We can talk about fitting all day, right? Everyone should get fit. We say that all the time, but the ugly truth about fitting is that it only actually matters if  and when proper fitting translates to performance improvements.

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Test Detail

The aim of this test is to investigate the effects of a putter fitting on performance.

20 golfers were recruited for a VIP putter fitting.

Prior to being selected for and included in the test, participants were screened to ensure no industry affiliation. Additional requirements include:

  • Must play at least 1-2x per month
  • Must not have had a putter fitting within the last 12 months
  • Must not currently be playing a belly or long putter

A range of ability levels was represented in the test.

Players were asked to bring his or her current gamer (having never gone through a proper putter fitting).

Testers hit (10)  5′ putts at a hole on the putting green and the make/miss location was recorded.

(10) 25′ putts were performed on PING’s granite table putting surface with the overhead cameras capturing the dispersion of the session.

Finally, players took part in an iPing session.

Player were then put through a full putter fitting. Once completed, the fitter altered the putter (if needed) to match the specs found from the fitting.

With the correct putter, the player then performed the same three tests as done at the beginning of the test (5′ putts at hole, 25′ on the table, and iping session)

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Performance Results

5-foot-putts

On 5′ putts, the average rate of putts holed increased from 5.6 out of 10 to 6.1. If you want to extrapolate that out to a whole number we can all wrap our heads around, we’re talking about an additional putt holed for every twenty tries. While that’s perhaps not mind-blowing, it’s absolutely the sort of number that will lead to lower scores on the golf course.

Out of the 20 testers, 9 improved their make rates, 7 produced identical results, while 4 actually made fewer putts.

25-foot-dispersion

Using their overhead camera system, PING calculated a stat area – basically an elliptically-shaped dispersion pattern – first with what was in each tester’s bag, and then again with the fully fit putter. As you can see, the study participants decreased their dispersion area by slightly better than 25%.

In total, 11 of the 20 testers improved 25′ dispersion, while 5 were essentially the same. 4 of the golfers in the study proved to be worse from 25′ with their fitted putter.

iping-score

PING’s iPing app looks at your stroke type, impact angle, tempo, lie angle, and shaft lean over a series of 5 putts. It measures consistency from one stroke to the next and quantifies it with an iPing Score that correlates to a putting handicap. A lower iPING score indicates a more consistent putting stroke.

On average, the golfers in this study cut their iPing putting handicaps nearly in half. 50% of the testers posted improved iPing scores, while 7 were unchanged. Only 3 scored worse with the fitted putter than they did with their gamers.

A Closer Look at iPing

Within the iPing results we’re able to take a closer look at how a given change impacted a specific performance metric for the group of testers for whom the related change was made.

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As the basis for its stroke type determination PING looks at the rate at which the face closes during the putting stroke. Of the 16 golfers who were fit for a different stroke type putter, 12 of them (75%) improved the related performance area with iPing.

To determine if a change in putter alignment needs to be made, PING considers the angle of the putter at impact. If a golfer is improperly aligned or inconsistent with alignment, a change is recommend. Among the golfers fit for a different alignment, 72% saw improvement over their gamers, while only 14% saw diminished performance.

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For golfers with inconsistent tempo, changing the weighting of the putter can often produce better results. In our study, 64% of golfers who were fit into a different weight putter showed improvement, compared to 14% whose tempo was less consistent as measured by iPing.

As mentioned in Part I, to determine whether a change in loft is advisable, PING looks at the shaft lean at impact. It should be noted that PING does not have any additional data to suggest that fitting for loft leads to a better putting stroke, it simply leads to better roll. In that respect, it’s a bit surprising that 67% would see pronounced improvement. It could be psychological, or it could be that the sum total of changes led to a more consistent stroke overall.

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Given the general improvements across the board, the fact that the highest percentage of golfers in our study were actually less consistent after a lie angle change warrants further examination (and a bigger chart). Given that 39% of those who had their lie angle changed actually putted worse, it’s reasonable to think that we all might be better off leaving well-enough alone.

Before you commit to never changing the lie angle of your putter, however; consider some of the numbers from Part I. While the average change in lie angle was roughly 1°, changes of 2° or more weren’t uncommon, and one golfer required a 7° change in lie angle. Seven degrees. Think about what that would look like in an iron, and then think about how quickly you’d be able to successfully adjust to that dramatic of a change.

Believe it or not, for all the benefits of custom fitted clubs, a negative result immediately after a lie angle change is actually the expected result. Here’s a snippet from the test report that should help put this into proper perspective:

“A change to lie angle has been seen to affect the stance and ball positioning thus we tend to get mixed results following a lie angle change. Changes in lie angle, while highly encouraged, will take the most adjustment from the player following a change, especially in cases where the person has been using the same putter for an extended period of time and is very accustomed seeing the putter oriented in a certain manner.”

Basically, as golfers we learn to compensate. Whether it’s learning to pound the ball left because we know it’s going to come back hard-right, or adjusting nearly every aspect of our putting stance and stroke to adapt to an ill-fitting putter, we come up with any number of unique ways to make it work…or at least fail less. When it comes to a lie angle change, eliminating those compensations that no longer work with a properly fit putter can take time.

Improvement Breakdown

These final two charts summarize comparative performance across our key metrics.

improvements-by-category

This chart summarizes the improvements across all 3 of the tests performed. While it should be noted that not everyone performed better with a fitted putter in all scenarios. In each case a majority of testers (50% on average) showed performance improvements with a properly fit putter.

improvements-by-golfer

The above chart shows the number of performance categories where golfers showed improvement as a result of the putter fitting.

16 of 20 golfers showed improvement in at least 1 performance category, while the largest number (8) showed improvement in 2 of the categories measured.

Key Takeaways

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If there’s one singular takeaway it’s this: Getting fit for your putter matters. Consider the breakdown of our results.

  • The majority of golfers included in this study were the same if not better in all three measurements, with the average of those measurements indicating improvement across the board.
  • 80% of golfers in the test saw improvement in at least one category.
  • The iPing consistency measurement showed the greatest average improvement.

If you don’t want to go all in with a fitting out of the gate, we can’t recommend enough you start with the iPing app. While there’s no substitute for a full fitting, iPing will help you begin to understand if your putter is remote close to ideal for your putting stroke.

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Did you miss the first day of results? If so click here to take a closer look.

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      Stephen F

      8 years ago

      Ok OK Okay I get it and I want to get fit for a putter but WHERE ?
      Golfsmith staff don’ t know much about anything so where does one go
      Austin TX

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      Ryan Tracy

      9 years ago

      Yes I’m in the 80%. I have a tendency to over rotate the face through impact and pull the ball. I need more toe hang and the only reason I know that is because I got proper fit!

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      Josh Gold

      9 years ago

      And 90% of golfers can’t break 100…so if 80% have the wrong putter does it really matter or is this just for marketing? If you’re good enough you can putt with just about anything

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      MyGolf Spy

      9 years ago

      Simply not true.

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      Josh Gold

      9 years ago

      Nice putt Mr. Haverkamp…

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      Michael D

      9 years ago

      I fail to understand how a complete and competent fitting could actually result in lowered performance. The very definition of being properly fitted implies performance improvement. How do you decide what to do in the fitting if performance doesn’t improve? If your performance declines, something is wrong with the fitter.

      Imagine a customer saying: “that putter adjustment causes me to miss more” , I definitely want to buy that putter…….

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      Chris Eckes

      9 years ago

      It seems to me that having a professional look at your stroke and your putter and then give it back to you saying “this oughta work” would imbue confidence in most amateurs.

      Since so much of putting is confidence, I wonder how much THAT had an impact on improved results.

      Could some of the positive results be attributed to the placebo effect?

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      dan

      9 years ago

      Someone should code the putter app for Android, since Android has almost 80% of the market (including me).

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      Golfzilla

      9 years ago

      I have questions about this process, especially “fit for arc”. “Arc” is not adequately defined. Ping shows graphics that seem to be directly over the putt. What they don’t show is a graphic of arc from behind and specifically arc relative to putter lie angle. If you swing “on plane” with a putter with a typical lie angle of 72º, that will look like an arc from above, but in a sense, it is not really an arc, it is “on plane”. Any arc differing from lie angle would be a strong or weak/non arc. A “Straight” putter swing is highly manipulative as it must overcome the natural 72º swing plane of the putter. Can it be successful, sure, almost anything can be done with a golf swing.

      I wanted see the “study” that was done to discover/verify this arc theory and was never able to get any “straight” answers (i.e. the study ) from Ping.

      Don’t get me wrong, I like Ping and like their putters. But, this “Fit for Arc” pitch has marketing-speak written all over it.

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      PutterInsider

      9 years ago

      Ping’s mentality for ‘fit for arc’ is based on the measurement in iPing of Stoke Type. This is measuring the rotation of the putter from the top of the backswing down to impact about the shaft axis. If you can match the offset (CG location relative to shaft axis) with your measured stroke type, you can increase your consistency of the measured stroke type. This will help you more repeatably deliver your club to the ball. I think the conclusion you’re trying to make relating lie angle to arc of the putter is flawed. Those two measures are independent of each other.

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      Golfzilla

      9 years ago

      If they have the data, they should show the data.

      Alan

      9 years ago

      How and where do I find a “true putter fitter”? I have been to pro shops and golf specialty stores and felt they were just trying to sell me a putter by showing me a variety of options. I never felt that they new what they were doing or that they knew what might be best for my game.

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      revkev

      9 years ago

      I went for a full bag fitting exactly four years ago. At the time my handicap index was between a 2 and a 3 and I firmly believed that putting/short game/driver accuracy were the primary “secrets” behind my success. The fitting revealed that I needed to have my putter shortened and the grip needed to be wider. The back weighting of the putter and the lie were adjudged to be appropriate after those changes.

      I took me about a month to get used to the shorter putter. Once I did I improved my putting improved as did my handicap index which reached a sustainable 1.2 for a period of 6 months. I was 55 at the time and while my entire bag was addressed not much was changed with my longer clubs (my driver was shortened 1/2 inch and I had two shafts pured.)

      The decrease in handicap came from improved putting that was certainly attributable to the fitting. I suspect that these numbers would improve with practice and that the difference between fitted and non-fitted would widen.

      Great report!

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      This is a bit off-topic, but since this is a putting article, I thought I’d share anyway. The largest statistical discrepancy in putting b/w Pros and Am’s appears in the under-10ft category. From beyond 10 ft, the odds of making a put fall below 50% even for Pros, however under 10ft (specifically 6 feet and in) that % creeps way up to over 80%. For Am’s, the % is far lower (below 50%). So, moral of this story: if you are going to practice putting (assuming you’re like any typical weekend warrior and don’t have hours upon hours of free time to do so), just concentrate on 10 ft and in. you’re unlikely to make anything outside of that anyway, so if you can substantial improve your short putt game, it will offer the greatest score-reduction benefit.

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      Andy W

      9 years ago

      Seems the more you putt at the same hole that has the same break, how can you not improve, and matters not the spec changes to the putter??

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      Nick

      9 years ago

      When I did my Ping putter fitting they had me hit straight putts at a hole 10-15 foot away. They focus on the stroke for fitting the putter, they don’t care if you make the putt, it’s the consistency of the stroke that they want to improve. The distance only mattered in that it meant that I wasn’t hammering long putts inconsistently or feathering things too lightly to register. As I said in the comments of part 1, the improvement is trust. I know if I miss a straight one that it was a push or pull, and if I don’t push or pull, it drops. Practice with trust.

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      Steven

      9 years ago

      It sounds like the second half of the test was right after they were fit with a new putter. If that is the case, I would like to see the results after they have practiced with the new putters for a month or two. I assume that there would be a bigger improvement, but we would need to see that data to know for sure.

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      Sharkhark

      9 years ago

      Although the article overall recommends fitting for a Putter…
      The initial category of statistics says…
      That 7 participants putted the same number of strokes as pre fitting and 4 got worse… Out of 20.
      So 11 out of 20…the majority… .stayed the same or got worse.
      Uh that’s not good. I think I’ll stay the course.

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      Undershooter30

      9 years ago

      A better comparison is to not look at the 7 who stayed the same. So you are comparing 9 players who improved vs 4 who didn’t. I will take that all day everyday if I am trying to actually improve at golf. I would also bet that the 4 who got worse had been putting with the same putter for some time and were very used to it. Thus they were thrown off by having to make a different stroke.

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      Kenny B

      9 years ago

      I am curious about the testers that actually got worse after being fit. Is it possible to list those testers before and after changes? Was it one change for them or a combination of several changes? If I had to guess, I would say that these testers have had their gamer for a long time and were used to the way it felt and played. It’s hard to make a significant change in the short period of this test. I think I would fall into that category if I did this test, because Ping doesn’t have one putter that has ever felt good to me.

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      Largechris

      9 years ago

      I’m a sceptical sort of person, and I’ve never had much Ping gear, but I think these results are fairly impressive, considering by definition all the testers were using their gamers that some might have played with thousands of times. But to say that Ping has not produced any ‘good feeling’ putters (for you) seems a bit daft. Something like the Scottsdale head feels pretty great compared to 95% of what’s on the shelf in stores. And there a quite a few hundred gold plated tournament winning Ansers that disagree as well.

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      Kenny B

      9 years ago

      “But to say that Ping has not produced any ‘good feeling’ putters (for you) seems a bit daft.”

      I am not sure why you even say this. You know nothing about my putting stroke and current gamer. I have nothing against Ping putters. I actually like Ping and I am playing Ping i20 irons. I have wanted to like Ping putters and have tried many models including the Scottsdale and both the old and new Ketsch. Granted, I haven’t been fit for one, but if I pick up any Ping putter and it doesn’t “feel good” to me, why would I pay to have one fitted? I am not buying a putter just because Ping has a vault full of gold putters from tournaments won by pros whose game is nothing like mine. Seems like you are saying I should buy one of Bubba’s pink G30 drivers so I can hit 300+ drives because he won the Masters twice.

      BTW, Scotty Camerons don’t “feel good” to me either.

      andreas

      9 years ago

      What about strokes gained putting post vs pre fitting? How many strokes per round are we talking about?

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      Rick

      9 years ago

      It seems like based off the data you are looking at around 3 strokes a round after a fitting. They said the person averaged an extra made putt every 20 putts so based on how many puts a person takes in a round that means at least 1 stroke gained and sometimes 2 strokes. Then it showed dispersion and it said the misses finish 25% closer to the hole. That means a couple ticklish 4 footers become 3 footers. That equates to a few less 3 putts a round. That means that for better players it might save you 1 or 2 strokes a round and for a high handicapper it might save as many as 5 strokes.

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      toney

      9 years ago

      In the lab maybe, but I’d say 3 strokes per round is VERY optimistic.

      anonymous

      9 years ago

      I’d like to know what ping would suggest with an individual that gets good numbers regardless of putter type. I get about +1 to +2.7 routinely when swithcing back and forth between a face balanced mallet and a strong arc putter. My stroke type is 1.9 striaght. Face angles are basicall very squaure with both….

      Each putter type has its plusses and minues. If face balanced has a fault it tends to be a more mechanichal swing from a strictly subjective point of view and the numbers can get a little off on the shaft lean at imact….if i had to pinpoint a weakness. The Strong arc putter is more of a feel instinct type putt…i simply try to bring the putter back to square and i focus a little more on the hole than a spot to roll the ball over…tempo seems less consistent for this putter type.

      I assume they would push towards a face balanced putter due to the stroke type…but with all things being equal i guess it would go to preference…and then disperson/distance control.

      I wonder if this is something that they run in to often. Perhaps I am as likely to benefit from the fitting process as anyone…maybe more so.

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      Sprout

      9 years ago

      It would be interesting to see what putter the player started with (or at least loft, lie, length, style, stroke, and alignment) compared to what they were fitted to and the before and after results on a per tester basis.

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      Doug

      9 years ago

      I see people getting placed into different putters, say a mallet. So between a fitting and buying a new “recommended ” putter, you’re suddenly out $$ significant money.

      However, it’s less than a new driver, and you’ll hit it twice or three times as often as a driver.

      What if you just bought a new Scotty? Will they fit that to you like getting your irons adjusted?

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      Recent statistical studies have shown that regardless of how many times you hit each club per round, driving proficiency shows the strongest correlation with scoring. Yes, a 6 foot putt counts the same as a 250 yd drive, but how well you hit that drive pretty much dictates how you have to play the rest of your shots on that hole. Plus, with a driver, the penalty stroke is always in play. You’re not going to hit too many putts OB ;) If you can only get fit for one club, or if you’re debating b/w putter or driver, the answer is really a no-brainer… choose the driver. More distance + more fairways + less penalty strokes = consistently better scores.

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