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Tried a friends 20 and then my G15 for a round. The G20 was average 22 yards longer everytime than my G15. Everytime. I’m gettin one.
I am amazed at all the comments out there! I just tried the G20 and found it about as good as anything out there. The stock R shaft was easy to load and the face really popped. I just didn’t find any distance gain over my 905′ and for some unknown reason, I flared two balloons off to the right. Not exactly my normal drive pattern.
After three years away from game due to two torn Achilles i am trying to get back to mediocre (13 handy).I bought G15, G15 draw, K 15-found the K15 slightly better (driver speed 88mph)-all of the above 10.5 R or 12 SR. Got a new old stock Rapture V2-9 R. It is longer in the air; it rolls more; it is harder to pull hook.
i’ll only buy a G20 the next time i hit 4 drives 260 dead right(I am a lefty).
My new Wolverine putter will have about 1 stroke per round help-due to more practice.
I agree with Mbrad. I too am a K15 player and have never hit the ball consistently straight and long with another driver. Right now I am driving 290 to 310 yards after it stops rolling. I still fight a high ball flight from time to time and will try to fix that with a new shaft. That being said, I think the shaft that comes stock on the K15 is a problem for me. The head on the new G20 looks more like the K15, and if it performs like the G15, that alone would be an improvement (how much, I don’t know). I think that if you hit your drive too high (as I have this problem) the tour shaft that is an option for the G20 would be the way to go. Can’t wait to demo it.
First off, the G-20 lower back weighting derives from the quite spectacular Japanese Ryoma driver and is responsible for producing much better off center hits. The difference is the Ryoma with stock shaft goes for around 1200 USD. I’ve played in quite a bit and the stock shaft is not a perfect match for me but the driver is remarkably straight and I expect the same to hold for the G020. I own the G-15 which I love BTW.
Second, in every business, product lines simply have to turn over. I am an academic and publish a quite widely used book that my publisher wants me to make 20% changes in every 4 years to kill the used market I imagine. Fortunately I can do so with a clear conscience as there often are new articles that are major improvements over what is in the most recent edition
Third, this is a technology driven industry and one in which the technology actually does improve performance — quite the contrary from music reproduction I dare say where the technology has ruined the reproduction. As someone who has written extensively in this field I can say with confidence that the order of sound quality in reproduction goes like this: master tape, vinyl pressed on good vinyl, vinyl on ordinary vinyl, hi-resolution digital, 16/44 digital, and bringing up the rear, MP3. Nevertheless virtually all music we hear in mass distribution is MP3. It’s about space saving and not in the slightest about sound quality. On the other hand, golf technology is performance enhancing by and large even if i can never bring myself to hit irons that look like kitchen utensils or marital aids
i have g10 irons and g15 woods tell me why i should get the new g20s please reply
The weight is further back and lower than the weighting in the G15. The face looks elongated like the K15. This driver would almost have to be more forgiving than the G15. Also trajectory and spin numbers are probably better. I’m a K15 player, very straight and very long. I’ll pas on this one hand buy the K20 next summer. Nonetheless, the G20 looks like a noticable improvement
Looks like Ping is gonna stay with the top if the pack with in my opinion the best driver series over the past 10 years (G series) a club between pro and high handicap its a driver that’s long, forgiving, AND workable… I have the G15, I love it and I’m quite anxious to get my hands on the upcoming G20.
I played PINGs since 1984 eye2. The last 4 years have been PING S58s. Sorry PING but this week is time to move on. They just have fallen behind in technology and they are very proud of their price as well. I just ordered a new set of Mizuno MP 58 Irons and they offer a great selection shafts as well. I think we’ll see a lot more used PING clubs and user purchasing other brands. PING used to have a name of quality, but now just the same old technology..
So when is it due out?
I couldnt use a Ping driver from the G15 range because i hit it in the clouds and cant get it low with 9 degree head, im looking forward to giving the 8.5 a bash?! Pleeeeaaaase be a 7.5 and im set!! I wonder what the stock shaft will be?
that could change with a shaft better suited to you.
Definitely will launch it high and the stock shaft has to be worth in excess of 2-3 dollars—and I bet it’s too light because it’s a Ping——great for learning how to cast the club ——everyone is making it is easy for Taylor Made
I’d bet this is even better than the G15. Looks like a bigger footprint like the K15, which has to be the best driver for ball speed all across the face. I’ve always thought by making a driver adjustable you waste important weight that makes a driver more forgiving. Fact is higher MOI = higher ball speed. I will be going from G15 to G20. Ping gets better with each generation.
It could always be swung in reverse and be used as a putter, i can see it now the longest driver we’ve ever made ! you’d be a mug not to have one (well cant wait to order mine)
They should have made an all black G15.
Like the initial posts say….you’re going to hit this one 15 yards past the G15 or i15?
The K15 hybrid with the notch hosel is one you can bend the lie angle. Rumor so far was that Ping will be adding that type hosel to the G20 hybrid so it can be lie angle adjustable.
The G 15 driver is not available in upright or flat lies due to the hosel design and the same may be true for the G 20 driver. The G15 hybrids can be bent up to 1.5 degrees in lie angle. This information is straight from PING’s custom fitting department–trust me, I am a brown dot (3 degrees flat lie) so my first concern has to be the correct lie (or something darn close to it). My is3 driver is 2 degrees flat but that was back in the days when PING offered up to 2 degrees +/- in lie angles. I won’t change drivers until PING offers at least 2 degrees of adjustment again.
“The G15 hybrids can be bent up to 1.5 degrees in lie angle.”
Is that a fact? I recently bought G15 hybrids and was told by the local rep that PING couldn’t do that with the G15 hybrids because the hosel is too short. I still went ahead and got them but I’m not too happy with them. Seems I might have a bone to pick.
Stuart, I got the same answer from the retailer and from Ping HQ. I didn’t buy the G15 hybrids because they were way too upright for me.
And, apparantly the bendable K15’s are only available in a set…or at least that’s what I was told when they first hit retail.
I’m full of hope for the G20 line!
Too much bounce for me.
I don’t think Ping would ever have an adjustable wood. Their custom fitting chart and color coding system is all u need according to them. If u have a good swing than you should be set on a Neutral setting. Not have to tinker with it. If you want to hit a fade or hook and then tinker your swing not the club. Everyone says the TM R11 gets best results when you get fit with the right settings. But You shouldn’t have to. It should perform on neutral with your swing. It could promote a bad swing sometimes when your tinkering your club head. If you need 1.5 more loft and 1.5 flat than according to ping that’s your setting and shouldn’t mess with it. That’s why a fitting is important! If your swing is evolving and you have to change settings to evolve with your swing than that’s a diff story. Idk maybe it’s just me but I would feel better swinging on neutral than have to tinker. Just means my swing is off and needs help. Am I wrong?
You are absolutely right, the adjust-ability craze was originally a cash grab that could lead joe golfer to believe he could cure a slice with a wrench. Anyone who golf relatively often knows that only practice fixes problems.
at least it’s not WHITE. I would have liked to seen an adjustability feature with this model though. You would figure with just about every other OEM providing some type of adjustability you might get one with this version. Too bad, So Sad!
Stop being haters!! In my hopinion it looks like it has a deeper face the the G15 which I would love cause I never really liked the size of the G15. I’m still gaming the G10 for that reason! Every OEM has very much the same overall look from previous models just slight changes thats why we keep buying some for game improvement and others to just hang with the Joneses! Its the reality we live in!!
“Brad Smith June 6, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Why on earth does it matter to anyone what the bottom of a driver looks like? or what color the bottom is?
Why does it matter what ANYTHING looks like? Why not just make everything we use ugly and utilitarian? We could all drive gray, boxy cars that get good gas mileage and are dependable.
I can understand the function and performance are generally more important over aesthetics, but aesthetics can have a powerful psychological effect on the user of a product. Furthermore, companies are looking to make money, and for those who don’t know the ins and outs of golf equipment, they will probably base their decisions on appearance.
If you have two clubs that are identical in performance and cost, and the only difference is aesthetics, wouldn’t you pick the one you thought looked better? Didn’t MGS recently run an article considering the notion that golf clubs may becoming a commodity? If that’s the case, wouldn’t cost and aesthetics be the most important factors in brand identity, assuming all performance is near identical?
The real answer, I suppose, is it doesn’t matter what it looks like. But why not take a great club and make it look cool? Why not?
I could easily slag this product like others here, but from what I see vs the K15 it seems the part of the sole technology on the G20 seems not as towards the heel as the K15. Meaning it is probably less draw biased in both weighting and closed face bias when soled at address. It may well be a K15 for players who don’t slice.
Yet surely if you are a K15 player who doesn’t slice you should buy the G15?….. How about that one.
Does the G15 have the sole technology that a consumer may want? Last time I hit one I didn’t see it there. Noone is forcing anyone to buy the G20 but to say there is no difference from G15 to G20 when looking at the pics alone you have the sole technology is a
disservice to Ping.
How about that one?
Yes but this whole TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY thing is what i’m on about. It’s simply become cliché. How is the technology from last year going to differ from this year?…. This new sole technology you’re on about for the new product that wasn’t evident in the G15, total bull ok. I’ve got this from ping’s website, just listen………….’The G15 offers maximum forgiveness, accuracy and distance. Larger face increases ball speed etc…new high point balance shaft for higher ball flight etc….. increased MOI.’ Ok all of that was last year and you’re not saying that TECHNOLOGY from 6 months later is going to be monumentally different to that!? You mention that the consumer doesn’t have the SOLE TECHNOLOGY that they want but i’m sorry, if a customer was dis-satisfied with the amount of and quality of tech in the G15 then they are just simply lying, or need a lesson because they don’t know how to hit the ball. I have a G15 and it is fantastic, but to say that the tech in the G20 will be better in every way is totally ridiculous. …… How about that one????
Not saying that at all. I never said the G20 is better i just said it is different.
I’m just saying the G20 has technology not available in the G15. That gives the buyer the option to buy the G15 or the G20. In the end the two drivers are probably millimeters apart in distance and feet apart in dispersion but the bottom line is still the G20 is not exactly the same driver as the G15, that alone is visible without even hitting them.
Will that sole technology help everyone? probably not but there is now an OPTION for the buyer.
How about you point out where I said the G20 was better and I buy you a G20, if it is not there how about you buy me a G15. I have hit the G15 and it does work for me.
I love all the comments here… so full of irony!
Listening to product junkies complaining about more of the same…
Nobody is making you pay the $300 for a new G20, if the G15 works for you and is worth $100 now… why change it? Does the price matter?
It suddenly seems like the manufacturer is guilty of bringing new products and they are evil cause I can’t keep up with the newest technology…
What Ian said is spot on. For those of you who think it looks like more of the same, PING would have to be out of their minds to make any drastic changes considering the overall reviews the G15 has received over the last couple of years. They might not really want to launch a new product, it costs millions, but if they didn’t today’s club junkies would go elsewhere.
On that note, I have a G15 and I would love to try this baby when it comes out.
looks like another go around for the Top Flight intimidater Driver. Will LeeTrevino receive royalties for this new design?
Saw that view in the latest issue of Golf magazine
Oh ya….forgot to ask, any chance of a pic from the address position?
Not sure if I understand all the boo-birds above, especially when it comes to what they expect.
If Ping didn’t launch another line (G20’s in this case) you’d hear all kinds of boo-hoos from the other side of the coin, about Pings lack of marketing focus, having a poor business model, forgetting their followers yada,yada yada.
Imagine for a moment, a customer walks into a golf superstore and approaches a sales rep about a new set of clubs. As he follows the rep through miles of inventory, he gets to the popular OEMs and is directed to all the latest and greatest sets.
The customer says, ” What about this Ping brand…heard some good stuff about them”.
Rep says, ” Ya, great clubs…great name…but this G15 line has been out for 2 years”!
He adds, ” These Taylor Made Burner 13.5’s are the cats ass…we just got them in….BUT…if you wait a few weeks, we can put you into the next generation Burner 14.0’s!!!!!!
That’s what keeps the market going. We can’t expect any OEM to sit back and rest on their successful lines. They would slowly die, Ping included. This new line is due and even if it can’t out-perform the G15 line (already making history) we can’t blame them for playing the game while still maintaining the highest respect in the industry.
Welcome to our world where everything is “obsolete” a few months.
Yeah, but you’re missing the point slightly. As someone already mentioned, most of the pros use equipment from a few years back because they are in many cases better. Westwood uses the i10 irons for christ sake, Simon Dyson uses the SQ SUMO etc etc. If someone walks into a shop and sees irons that yeah, may be slightly older than the newest of the new and is told by the sales man “these irons have held the test of time and are tour prefered due to how well they were made etc..,” then that should persuade the customer to buy them. The fact that soooo many people have such a niave view on things and believe that a 2011 driver (in this case the G20) is going to be FAR BETTER than the 2010 G15 is incredible! You saw the advert about ‘hitting it bubba long’. He is the longest driver on tour and he uses the G15, now when we see the new add for the G20 i am betting that it pronounces the club to be more forgiving, longer, straighter than any previous makes. That’s what we’re all saying.
Westwood and other PGA pros are a different story altogether and have specific agreements with OEM sponsors for their own reasons. (slow to accept change or won’t change because of the groove they have with that model etc.)
Lets not forget, pro’s are paid ultimately from profits gained from retail sales for mostly NEW equipment. Just ask Ping how many G10 sets they sold last year.
The average guy going into the golf store has zero knowledge about what model Westwood played on Sunday but does see the logos on all the players clothing, bags etc. Plus, the average club purchaser will not want to hear his buddies say, “Oh new clubs”? “Why didn’t you get the newer ….(fill in the blanks) …yours have been around forever”.
So while I fully understand your point of being sick of the marketing hype and “new and improved” equipment, my point is simply that churning out new stuff is here to stay and is driven by those who wish to believe the claims or simply need to have the latest thing.
God love em.
Bubba’s visor will very likely be embroidered with a G20 logo….even if he uses a G5, G10 or G15.
Love it or hate it, it’s just bigger than us and we won’t see it change anytime soon.
Yeah ok, you make a valid point. I understand that people want new stuff and that it will evidently be churned out But, here me out, what i am saying is that surely if someone saw westwood (which here in England we do all the time on TV cause he’s world number 2) we see him use the G10. Now to me that says he uses that because it is a better club. Its the same for his irons. That’s what frustrates me, the fact that we blindly move forward every 6 months with new equipment and neglect the clubs that really were very good. Hence, why can’t we sell stuff that we see pros using all the time, In this case the G10 etc…. In the states my dad picks up boxes of Pro V1s from 2009 for HALF the price of the 2011 edition. Now that’s also what i’m getting at. There is simply no way that the pro v1 that Stricker used last week is worth double the ball used by say poulter last year at the Accenture. There will be minimal difference in the technology yet we get millions of amateurs being lured into NEWER UPON NEWER things and they completely ignore the cost. I know why we do it, but to me it’s rediculous.
Point taken James and I can see you’re more of a golf pureist than an equipment junkie. I’m of a similar standpoint (6-8 years between iron purchases) and I buy only when something does improve my game versus “promises to”.
I’m just defending Ping as a very happy G15 player who appreciates their resonable 2 year product cycle. To me, they stand for product first, marketing a distant second and while they still play the marketing game, they benefit more from street buzz than most other equipment manufacturers. Go Ping.
England eh? Someday I’ll get over there for an extended visit…with clubs of course!
hmm, understood. And yeah england, we’ve got some serious courses over here!!
I think it looks nice but the G15 was and is a BOMB!! That thing is “Bubba” long lol. I don’t see how this could be much longer. Just a refresh which is normal. But What is that weight in the back for? I know the K15 had the Straight Flight Technology weight in the back at the bottom of sole. So what would this weight promote being it’s in the center back?
Very cool…prototype maybe?? I’d use it…but my two G10’s still work just fine.
Ping runs a 2-year equipment cycle. This update seems timely rather than rushed like some other companies. At least it is not called the Super-G15-Deep-Fast or something like that.
I wonder if the G5 is old enough that the paint can be blue? Not sure what colors in their “dots” are left.
“At least it is not called the Super-G15-Deep-Fast” I had to laugh :p
Its just a bunch of marketing guys in charge all making the same claims: longer and straighter, to improve sales – by now we should all be challenging Jamie S. If what they claim is true, then take a look in the pros bag, many are using drivers several years past – their objective is to score low and to do this – keep the ball on the short gras
i’ve got to be honest, modern day merchandise is begining to really annoy me. Of course!, This model will now leave us with the G15 far behind with the enhancement of modern day technology…. no, you see…it won’t. It’s always fun to see a new model but it frustrates me how they beef them up to be better than anything ever before…… until 6 months later when the G25 comes out. Apart from the grooves, ok. There is simply NO DIFFERENCE between the S57 and S56 irons, none
Actually, there are. Just ask anyone who has played both.
No, listen. I HAVE used both an there is NO DIFFERENCE
I had the S57s and but have not tried the S56s. I have tried irons with pre2010 conforming grooves and the new grooves, on certain types of shots the difference is noticeable.
I guess there is a difference ……. the grooves:)
Yes, listen. I HAVE used both and (notice it is spelled AND, not AN) there IS a difference.
Hate all you want…you wouldn’t be here if you weren’t product junkies. Say what you will about the club, but one thing that separates Ping from ALL others is they don’t care and/or know much about marketing…what they know is engineering and design.
dont care about marketing? well then i guess somebody isnt hitting it bubba long…..
I like how Ping’s drivers have a notable legacy to them, like the evolution of a nice car’s sheet metal between model refreshes. People hate and say “more of the same” but the same is exactly what I want from Ping.
Ping has had it down for a while. It consistently gets a little better each series.
Good I was looking forward to this so the price of the G15 will drop! How about irons, will there be a G20?
G….. Bend over, now give me $500
Yes sir it really will change your game,oh yes sir, it is longer…. and straight too….
Why on earth does it matter to anyone what the bottom of a driver looks like? or what color the bottom is?
I’m tired of following tecnology, someone has to put an end to this. My G15 yesterday was worth US$200.00, today US$100.00. When does it stop??? if this keeps going on, they’ll put out a new driver every three months. The worst part of it is, same club, different colors.
they already do this Ricardo . . . it’s called TaylorMade.
I can’t agree more. I’ve been a loyal Ping player for over 25 years. I think they need to step up their game. I gave up my G5 driver for a Cleveland HiBore and I don’t see myself coming back to Ping for any metal woods they have. I still love my Ping S59 irons.
Is it a B&W photo (meaning that the gray parts of the sole have some color), or is it a color photo, meaning that the gray parts really are gray?
So far, Ping has been using different colors to distinguish each generation of products from the previous one (G5 blue, G10 orange, G15 maroon), so I am interested what color they chose now.
Regarding the clubhead… looks have been always irrelevant when it came to PING products. Performance mattered. If they continue in this fashion, i’m in.
Regardless of its performance its similarity to the previous lines, I think it still looks cool. Not the most original, but I’m pretty sure the higher ups were the ones pulling the strings to get an upgraded G15 aesthetic as opposed to an entirely new aesthetic. It’s not without merit to try and retain some legacy aspects of the line, but you can’t stay too long or it will get stagnant.
Regardless, I still think it looks cool.
It looks more like a poorly designed knock-off of what the G20 should look like. Lets hope this is a prototype of a prototype.
On second thoughts isn’t it a Cleveland hi-bore with a different coloured sole?!
Is that just a G15/K15 hybrid with a new paintjob? Let me guess, further and straighter than ever before? Leaving those poor disillusioned saps with those rubbish old G15s trailing in your dust? Pffffffffff!!!! ;0)
I have been trying different drivers for the last few months now.
I Started with a G10, then moved to a Cobra 454 then an FTi Square and finally a Nike Sumo, All hitting fairly well, but something was not right.
I bought the G20(9.5 stiff) two weeks ago and I am a very happy boy, I am driving on average 315 yards and getting further every time, The sweets pot is greater and the club is very forgiving.
Sod the R11 driver everyone is raving about, this club is cheaper and far superior
More of the same
HA! That’s exactly what I first thought… More of the same.
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