The Case Against The Costco Kirkland Signature Ball
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The Case Against The Costco Kirkland Signature Ball

The Case Against The Costco Kirkland Signature Ball

Sufficed to say our recent test of Costco’s Kirkland Signature Golf Ball has raised product awareness. So much so, Costco is struggling to keep the balls in stock online. A refresh is expected on December, 20th, but if you’re lucky, your local store may still have some inventory.

If you’re just hearing about the Costco Kirkland Ball for the first time; to recap, the K-Sig, is a Four-Piece Urethane cover golf ball that offers legitimate tour-level performance.

We tested it. It’s true.

If It’s So Good, Why Is It So Cheap?

Costco can sell for significantly less than conventional ball producers because its business model is built on retail margins of 15% (excluding membership fees). Most anyone running a brick & mortar retail business, or even a direct to consumer business, will tell you that those margins are so thin they border on insane.

Costco’s 15% margins means upwards of 70% more money in your wallet. For consumers looking to maximize performance along with their golfing dollar, that makes the K-Sig a no-brainer.

The Case Against the K-Sig

The best case, and arguably the only case relevant to the amateur golfer, against buying the K-Sig twitter follower Scott Payne. The conversation started with what I’m reasonably certain was a sarcastic reply to a tweet.

Fair point. It’s true, wholesale giant, Costco, isn’t what we’d classify as a huge supporter of the industry. Arguably it’s barely in the industry. But still, a $30-$35 per/dozen savings is no small thing.

You could use that extra money (what a concept, amiright?) any number of ways that do, in one form or another, support the golf industry.

  • Put the extra money towards a new club, apparel, footwear, or golf accessory purchase.
  • Donate it to the First Tee or other organizations that foster growth.
  • Donate it MyGolfSpy and help support our unbiased testing program.
  • Book a tee time at a local course and treat yourself to a round golf (which is what I suggested to Scott).

Ultimately the money is yours to use as you see fit, but my point was that there’s no mutual exclusivity between buying a Kirkland ball and supporting the golf industry.

His reply, however, got me thinking a bit more:

Simply put: Spend more and help support your local PGA Professional.

Hmm.

At many, if not a majority of courses (particularly private ones), the Pro owns the shop. That is to say; it’s his responsibility to purchase the inventory (with his money). He benefits if it sells, but he’s the guy on the hook if it doesn’t.

While you’d expect that the fate of a well-run shop doesn’t hinge on golf ball sales, there’s a case to be made that a good pro shouldn’t suffer the consequences when one brand is given the ammunition to undercut an entire market, but then again, neither should the consumer.

If your pro works hard, takes care of his customers, and maintains a brand agnostic shop…if he turns down pricing incentives that come with brand exclusivity in favor of offering you, his customer, a variety of golf ball brands from which to choose, you absolutely should support him.

But if the pro isn’t offering you a choice of golf ball brands, does he really deserve your ball dollars? In those cases, why wouldn’t you consider the Costco Kirkland Signature ball or a Snell ball, or any number of other brands that aren’t available at your course? Take your savings and put it towards something else golf-related.

In either case, you’re supporting the game.

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      Dave Tutelman

      7 years ago

      We keep reading how golf is in trouble, dying even. And the top three reasons cited are, in no particular order because every survey has a different order: takes too long, too hard, and too expensive. Now someone comes along to attack one of the top three problems. HOW CAN THAT BE NOT SUPPORTING GOLF?!?!

      Unless, of course, making it less expensive won’t attract people, or won’t attract enough people. If golf is dying because it’s too expensive, but making it less expensive won’t save it… then golf is doomed anyway. Not a pleasant conclusion.

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      William Bullion

      7 years ago

      Costco will be a huge winner in the spring.
      They’ll have advertising under bushes across the country.
      As a ball, if it plays in between the pro-v1 and the pro-v1x, I’ll definitely playing the costco ball without hesitation. I settled on the x last fall after trying different balls all year.
      With the Kirkland ball, I only worry about score when it hits the water.

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      wwnphd

      7 years ago

      So much for saving money on balls. The anticipated in stock date/time was just after my tee time. I NEVER take my phone with me during a round of golf but made an exception to try to get some of these balls. Several attemps but still showed as out of stock. Last attempt i dropped my phone screen first on the cart path. Never got the balls and now need a new phone. Oh well, at least i’m playing golf in late December.

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      Kirkland rules

      7 years ago

      Great price. Funny thing is that Snell & Kirkland bring their balls from the same vendor.
      4-layered balls also cost more than a 3-layered ball too. I would think Snell could be out of business soon.

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      TopPakRat

      7 years ago

      UPDATE 12-20-16.
      So much for supporting your local pro. Costco released the Kirkland Signature ball this morning and SOLD OUT in 2 hours. That’s twice in 2 months a complete SELL OUT.in just hours!

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      suhdude

      7 years ago

      Scott Payne? Gimme a break. “why not support the pro shop?” Why don’t you front me the $14 for a sleeve of prov1x?

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      Stephen

      7 years ago

      As a former assistant golf pro who left the business mostly because of financial needs, I promise you I’d rather you buy a coupke dozen of the Costco ball and pit your savings toward a lesson than buy your ball in the proshop. I see that as the best win-win for you and your pro(s). You get better ball value and an improved skill set to enjoy the game more, and your pro gets increased lesson revenue – $ that is 100% their’s to keep.

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      Alan Reid

      7 years ago

      Touchy min ?

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      Kev Masson

      7 years ago

      Ha so fit does that make u I’ve had a stroke so got an excuse

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      Alan Reid

      7 years ago

      Bottom line is you’ll still be shite lol.

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      Kev Masson

      7 years ago

      If they do what it says on the tin $30 for 24 balls vs $96 any club golfer would bite yer hand off for a deal like that especially the way things are just now. I’m not a golf snob by any means a names a name they haven’t marketed like the big players have but it’s interesting in one article that Titleist try hard to stop these golf spy from advertising these facts

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      Alan Reid

      7 years ago

      We certainly wouldn’t know the difference!

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      P-Gunna

      7 years ago

      What a dope. Why would I buy marked up balls in this guy’s pro shop? Apparently being a golfer means that I need to buy overpriced equipment. No wonder the game is dying.

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      joe mccabe

      7 years ago

      What swing speed is needed to compress the inner cores to take advantage of multi-layered balls. ??

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      Steve S

      7 years ago

      My local Golfsmith is having a going out of business sale. The are selling Pinnacle Golds and Softs for $6.29 a dozen. Should I not buy them since because my local pro sells them for $19.99? Heck no, he was in there, buying dozens grips at 60% off. I left before he did but it wouldn’t surprise me if he bought 12 dozen balls. It’s capitalism folks, live with it.

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      ComeOnSense

      7 years ago

      I’m disappointed in Costco, the price should be a lot higher so they can buy the other ball companies with the extra money and merge them all together. Then hook up with someone from Congress to approve a Giant Ball company where we all have to buy from, but you must 1st download this ball company app and allow access to all of your personal pictures and contact’s so they can help you hit the ball better .
      Why help the people? Corporation are only to max profits,not help the people or country. Isn’t that what they teach you at Business schools?
      In a serious note, I want to thank you Costco for helping us ,I wish other corporations will pay attention and maybe our country and the world would not be in such a mess, as it’s now.
      I’m a Costco member for years, looking forward to try the Kirkland ball.
      Thanks Tony again.

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      Jordan

      7 years ago

      Since when did buying golf balls become a charity? By that logic I might as well just buy the kirklands then give the pro $35 in cash. Since he’s not making anywhere close to $35 profit from a box of Pro Vs since. Stupid. It’s not our fault the pro chose to go into that field of work knowing all the risks out there.

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      VP In Charge of Golf (not really)

      7 years ago

      I love your reference and others like “It’s not our fault the pro chose to go into that field of work knowing all the risks out there.” Funny how that works when things are “down” because when things were “up” all the courses and clubs wanted to own the shop because they thought the golf pro made too much money. The only problem is you are correct; he did get into the business knowing the risks (and rewards) or so he thought. Hmmmm. Maybe the on-course pro shops don’t do very well because there is no real incentive for the pro to go the extra effort to make a profit. If he can’t sell it at reasonable rate, let it sit or sell it at a loss. Oh, well…. no biggie… not his money anyway. Maybe the clubs should give the pro the concession and tell him, “this is your area of expertise, you need to use it to make some money”. That’s what I do.

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      Shortside

      7 years ago

      I don’t get all the hub bub. Quite frankly the people that $50 a dozen doesn’t matter to will continue to pay $50 a box. Because it doesn’t matter to them. Those that were buying on sale or used (especially used) may consider the K-sig.

      Fact is most golfers score somewhere between 90 – 115 if they’re scoring straight up. 100+ probably accounts for 65+% of all players . I can’t count the guys I’ve hooked up with at the first tee that say they’re an 80’s player. After 1 or 2 holes it’s pretty clear that’s a goal as opposed to a current reality. The overwhelming majority of those players aren’t shelling out $50 a dozen in the first place.

      Yes, I’m waiting for the K-sig to be restocked. The price is better than mint used on sale. And if Costco ever stocks a driver or forged cavity irons that perform I’ll consider them too. More golf dollars available for green fees and lessons. Most of us live on budget.

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      dcorun

      7 years ago

      I’m all for helping everyone in the golf business make money BUT, when you’re on SS , you become the first priority. I have to spend my money differently now than I did when I was working. When I was working, it was out to the local PGA store and buy what I wanted when I wanted. I have to save a lot longer now than before to buy a new driver or set of irons. Of course when I bought my first metal driver years ago it sure wasn’t $500. I’ll spend my money where I see fit and if I can save money on golf balls as good as the $50 ones then so be it. Happy Holidays to MGS and all the bloggers that support this site.

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      NoP

      7 years ago

      I play what’s considered a city, municipal muni that has no PGA professional

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      Greg P

      7 years ago

      Me too. Guess you and I can buy them.

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      Anthony

      7 years ago

      While I have balls coming out the ying yang, I will buy them and start giving my proV’s to clients. Too good a review and bargain to pass up.

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      Mark

      7 years ago

      I see so many on here talking about golf being so much more expensive now. I have been in the golf business for 16 Plus years. R7 quad 499.99, titleist professional 50 bucks. Irons 699-799. Cost of playing is more for sure, but there has been almost 0 inflation in golf equipment prices since 2000. Period!!

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      Jim

      7 years ago

      I agree that golf is getting pretty expensive and paying $48 or more for Pro V1’s isn’t something that I’m willing to do anymore. But there are other alternatives to this Costco ball, specifically the Snell MTB ball which is a great ball (although in fairness it’s not a 4 piece ball) and it plays as well as any other tour level ball out there. The big name golf ball companies are paying a lot of sponsorship money to the pro’s so these other balls (even Vice from what I’ve heard) can be sold for a lot less money. I’ve switched to the Snell balls and am pretty happy.

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      Fred

      7 years ago

      Aside from the performance, the Snell ball has something else going for it – Dean Snell, the top ball designer is the business, and the developer of the ProV1. That said, no one has yet to mention who, exactly, is behind the Kirkland signature ball. Not criticizing, just curious.

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      Matty

      7 years ago

      Does anyone know if the Kirkland golf balls FINALLY available in Canada (specifically in Ontario)?

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      Jie W Kang

      7 years ago

      Wook i told you :)

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      drisky

      7 years ago

      I understand people wanting to buy the best ball for the best price. I don’t have a bone to pick with anyone about that.

      But the older I get and the more extra income I’m able to put towards golf, the more I’ve begun to think about the impact my dollars might have. I think more about patronizing companies whose business practices I agree with, or companies that where my patronage might mean more to them than ‘units moved’

      Costco simply sees an area of the market they can capitalize on. It’s an opportunity for profit and not much more. In no way does that mean Costco is evil or bad, but when I’m purchasing golf balls it’s a secondary conversation worth being aware of; Costco cares about business, not golf.

      My personal preference is to spend my money where it might be more meaningful.

      That’s why I buy Snell. Slightly more expensive than a k-sig, but a great ball at a great price point. Plus the added ‘sleep better at night’ bonus of knowing I’m trying to do my part to support the little guy with a good product.

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      Carolina Golfer 2

      7 years ago

      Good thought provoking piece Tony, it’s allowed for an interesting discussion.

      *Touching on a couple points, I agree completely with those who mentioned the Pros don’t own the shop nearly as much as they used to. In our company several dozen courses, none of the pros I know, make anything extra off pro shop sales.

      *Those that say companies are making huge money off the margin on balls, that’s incorrect, balls are among the smallest margins of any product in our shop. We sell a lot of volume, but the margins are small compared to shirts and shoes.

      *Lastly, if so many PGA Pros (above) don’t have an issue with the Kirkland pricing and distribution, then why do so many others.

      It’s like I say about most things equipment related. Buy what you want, play what makes you happy and don’t worry about what others are doing.

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      Pointer

      7 years ago

      That’s what I do.
      I cannot justify the expense of the game I need to play. I owe ME the loyalty the golf industry does not care to extend to me.

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      Charlie

      7 years ago

      So if I buy my Titleist ProV1x’s at Dicks Sporting Goods for $47.99 and not at my pro shop for $54.99, am I going to destroy golf? Because I think this is what we’re arguing???

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      Robert

      7 years ago

      Embrace a changing market & adapt. Protectionism hasn’t ever worked out in the long run. If the market demands the CostCo ball and if the market no longer turns to the local pro shop, then is it not time for the industry to re-invent itself to cope with the changing market?

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      Dominic Monterosso

      7 years ago

      Bob, what course do you routinely play down there?

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      Bob Menzies

      7 years ago

      A private place, with 2 courses, called Heritage Palms.

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      Dan Kane

      7 years ago

      it would be nice to get a high quality ball that costs less than the top brands so i don’t feel bad when I shank it into the woods

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      Marc Anderson

      7 years ago

      Best ball I have played this year. My only mistake was only ordering 2 dozen. Hopefully they will be available again soon. Longer than ProV1x and putts great.

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      RAT

      7 years ago

      Great article , yes I will get some balls and help PGA pro’s when ever possible ,have ordered new Triton Driver.

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      Larry Kummer

      7 years ago

      While in Myrtle Beach in late November COSTCO had NO inventory when I asked why the Costco associate said the only store that had any was in Pittsburgh. GO figure. Why would yo have any in the GOLF MECCA.

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      Bob Menzies

      7 years ago

      I’m a PGA Teaching Pro & I bought the 2-dozen pack of these balls at the Ft. Myers, Florida Costco three weeks ago. I thought the ball was EXCELLENT! On the course that I always play down there, I can honestly say that I hit some tee-shots further than I ever have before! I will continue playing this ball as long as I can buy them! And, how on earth can you beat the price, $29.99 for TWO DOZEN! Costco…Making Golf Balls Great Again!

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      Scott

      7 years ago

      This may help you argument @Mygolfspy

      1. As a golf professional inside a green grass shop golf, margins on golf balls are not what the consumer thinks. The price for the leading brand cost us $32.00 with shipping. Now the MSRP would be $59 but there is a MAP at $47. Now we are only making $15 per dozen because we would never sell a dozen balls at MSRP because customers are smarter. If you decide to buy your balls by the sleeve the margins will be higher because most golf courses have to use valuable counter space for such a low margin item. # 1 Always buy by the dozen you will save money.

      2. The reason why most ball companies have multiple ball types is for pricing and pricing only. Performance is for those that want it and pay for it. I’m happy to see a tour ball that will perform at $15 a dozen. This will be good for everyone except the big dog in the ball business that just became an IPO where profit rules.

      3. There is only one major golf ball company trying hard to bring a bigger margin for green grass shops by allow them to do the discount programs before the big stores. There new tour ball will be in the $39 price range. They are trying to make a splash and working on signing a major star to play there ball. Or did they already. You will see more and more golf ball makers dropping there price and if the top brand fails to follow they will miss the boat.

      4. I was told by the major golf ball sales rep that the reason they have different balls for slam is for price alone. Not everyone can afford the $47 dozen but they will pay $20. They perform the same off the tee (5 yards of difference thanks to USGA rules) the only difference is performance around greens (Spin = Urathan Cover). Now the Pro V1 is not the number one ball played. It is on # 1 ball on tour but the Titleist DT is the number one seller for Titleist. It is Price Point. The pinnacle ball is the number one margin ball for shops and the top balls for Acushnet the makers of Titleist.

      5. There are three things you need to play golf a club, another low margin item, a tee a high margin item for the basic wood peg, and a ball. Balls and tees are disposable which during the course of play are lost and or broken. The major golf companies know this and dictate the margins based on this premise. So you need a golf ball to play than why not a k-sig. At no way are you hurting my margins. It will just mean I will order less of one major brand and they are the truly the ones that will suffer.

      MY THOUGHTS: I would like to see more of this in the golf industry as prices for hard goods are out of reach for most players. They have missed the boat just like the most golf courses have with there out of reach green fees. I hope to see everyone wake up and do what is best for the long term health of the game that I love. We all got greedy and are now paying the price as rounds dwindle and players leave.

      Hit it straight but don’t hit it often.
      Scott

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      Mark

      7 years ago

      i find it hard to believe the dt is the best seller. I sell about 600 Prov, Pro v1X balls a year compared to 24 DT, and I know all the other retailers in my network have about the same split. Prices on hard goods are the same as they were when I got into the business. The 300 TM Driver was 399.99, the R7 Quad was 499.99 and the titleist professional was 54 a dozen at the first shop I worked at. I hate when people act like equipment prices have gone way up since 1999. Come on.

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      Scott

      7 years ago

      Mark,

      I think you may be in area where your prices are little higher and able to sell at MSRP. Sounds like a high end Country Club. The Pro V1 when it first came out sold MAP at $34 a dozen. Drivers didn’t reach the $399 range until 2005. That was the TM Quad hit the market because of the adjustabity. If you are involved in the industry and want to grow this game think of the average consumer and not the high end consumer who would buy such items at MSRP. The hard good market has taken a hit with the lost of Nike and all the major players are trying not to get the Nike tour ball players but those that loved and played Nikes number one seller the MOJO. Just ask Callaway, Srixon and Bridgestone Reps. I Really don’t see the future market place for Titleist if they are not competive with price point, they are great at marketing but it will still come down to price for most consumers. The USGA limits on balls have been met. With that said price will determine the market. You will see that Tour balls will be a more competive market this year.

      BCook

      7 years ago

      Costco has had a hair across it’s butt for a LONG time against the golf industry because the industry refused to sell them their better golf ball products. Why would they refuse? Because Costco won’t play by the pricing policies. It’s been a long battle and this new ball is simply a result of this decades long battle. Right now the consumer wins on this battle. But not for long. Costco will eventually raise the price of their ball. But this is not about saving consumers money. It’s a corporate battle of business philosophies that has been simmering for a long time.

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      Scoot 24

      7 years ago

      So what you are really saying is that in golf’s desire to be this elitist sport Costco has called their bluff. Yes, they may raise the price but it will still be significantly less expensive than Pro V1. Why would golf equipment companies not want to sell to wholesale companies except for image. Are they looking to protect their other retailer? If so that had backfired on them. Will we see Pro V1’s in Sam’s club soon as a rebuttal to Kirkland?

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      Rico Pimentel

      7 years ago

      The main purpose of the PGA Professional is to grow the game. By starting kids off playing the right way and conducting themselves in the proper manner to giving lessons to seasoned players. Selling equipment is icing on the cake.

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      Bradley Reynolds

      7 years ago

      I played them in MI this fall and they were great! Replacing my chrome soft

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      Mike Smith

      7 years ago

      The assumption that prices are jacked at golf shops is simply not always the case. Many of the pros follow MAP pricing structure which is exactly the same price you would see at retailers.

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      Frank

      7 years ago

      I’ll be concerned with “supporting my pro” when he/she concerns him/herself with supporting me by purchasing from me when I offer services the club requires.

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      zesflog

      7 years ago

      Going back to “why” the K-sig is as good if not better than other tour balls. I played the K-sig recently. Yes, it is everything that folks are saying about it, but “why”? Starting in 2008, I became a ball fitting tech for a major golf ball manufacturer. Extensive training is given to each tech. A full week of training at their American headquarters. That said, I feel comfortable to say that the K-sig plays and is built more like the Prov-1X. They are both four piece balls. I am pretty sure they both have 2 cores, one mantle layer and urethane cover. the Prov-1 is a three piece ball,(one core , one mantle layer and urethane cover) with a compression of around 98.

      Another ball with 2 cores is the Callaway Chrome Soft, the 2106 version.

      What this means, is the player with a swing speed of lets say, under 110 mph, can play a high compression ball as long as it has 2 CORES. This player only need to compress the outer core, (with a lower compression) and low and behold, optimum performance from the ball. Players with higher swing speeds, go right through the first core and compress the inner core; optimum performance. In my opinion, the K-sig would and should out play the Prov-1.

      These are just my personal comments, so anyone with more insight??

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      Ianoue

      7 years ago

      Golf is too expensive.
      I believe that Costco and Dean Snell have taken appropriate steps and I support them for their efforts.

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      Bob Grant

      7 years ago

      I want a dozen ASAP – its summer here in OZ.

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      Richard Wheat

      7 years ago

      How much cheaper than pro v 1s?

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      Derek Dhart

      7 years ago

      $30 for 2 dozen…..

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      Tyler Pritkin

      7 years ago

      I am a PGA pro and I’m fine with it. The markup is so small on golf balls so let the golfers get a good deal so they can play golf and help get more rounds and revenue to the facilities that need it. Golf is too expensive and helping making it more affordable is one way to get more golfers playing.

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      chicken little

      7 years ago

      the sky is falling!

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      Russell

      7 years ago

      If the Pro is concerned why don’t they get some bulk orders of Costco balls and resell them at a low margin. It would still be half what a Pro V1 would cost and still make them money. Win-win.

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      Greg p

      7 years ago

      Many times there is an exclusivity cause in the contract. The shop cant sell a competing product.

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      Shane Frahm

      7 years ago

      I will say the Pro owning the shop has been a dying practice for the better part of last 15 years, especially in the public/resort facilities.. Private clubs might still hold strong in that category..

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      Ronnie Castillo

      7 years ago

      It just goes to show you ,how much money is spent on Sales and Marketing for golf balls. Costco never advertises. 50% of Costco’s profits are in membership sales. It’s no wonder Nike is getting out of the golf ball business.

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      Kevin Halemaumau Wilson

      7 years ago

      What can you compare these with, Titleist, Top Flite?

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      Jeff Hajduk

      7 years ago

      I have read that they are made by Nassau, a popular Korean brand. This may be very similar to /the same as their Quattro, a tour level ball played in Asia.

      Ronnie Castillo

      7 years ago

      I heard it was a Taylor Made patten- Penta Ball.

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      BCook

      7 years ago

      Let’s be real. Nike is getting out of the golf ball business for one reason and one reason alone…they could not generate enough demand for their product to turn the profit that they require. They produced some great products but they just couldn’t generate demand, even with the best player in the world playing and endorsing their products.

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      Bob Grant

      7 years ago

      Want to try it – When is Costco Melbourne Australia getting some stock. Need to try it and if I like it I will continually use it. Tell me COSTCO????

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      Billy Walker

      7 years ago

      If you are close minded, you will never see the difference.

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      kloyd0306

      7 years ago

      Instead of “Why are they so cheap” – maybe Titleist might explain why their range is so expensive………..

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      Many Factors

      7 years ago

      R&D, patents, advertising, tour support, possibly employee wages, sales reps, informational support, websites, testing, quality control, consistency and many other factors. Do you remember the old ads about Titleists 32 point performance check? They are doing the leg work and setting the standard. It is much easier to follow the leader than be the leader. Test the ball and see but know there are many good and valid reasons why a Titleist is more. Several years ago, Wilson made a ball called the TRUE. Its main feature had to do with proper centering of the core. Even in the tests supporting Wilson, I believe Titleist was the “next best ball”. Top Flite Strata’s were horrible but alot of guys liked the Strata ball. It simply was not consistent.

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      Mark

      7 years ago

      I think you are missing the point. So if this works out great for Costco, then what is next, drivers? Irons? We in golf retail work our butts off to keep pricing competitive. If you think we are getting rich selling golf equipment you are crazy. Yes, service sells to a point. What happens when kirkland makes a driver that they sell for 149.99 that is close to what the big guys make.. They buy someones design and move on. It is hard enough to do what we do. If you want to lose all the brick and mortar and make Pro’s stop selling clubs then have fun getting fit at costco. . Ive been doing this for 16 years and have watched as hundreds of people in the industry close down because its just not worth it anymore. That is the point!! what comes next, not now you have more money to spend at your local small shop or pro shop.

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      MissingIt

      7 years ago

      The point of a fitting should be to FIT, not to SELL product. Fittings are a delivered service in, and of, themselves. Once you “inject” the selling of product into a fitting, you pollute the primary incentive which should be to find the best combination of equipment to meet the needs of the golfer (whether you actively sell the right products or not). Make fittings a separate fee-based service and your concern goes out the window.

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      Dave Glancie

      7 years ago

      Its not going to hurt the local pro. The margins in selling golf balls are very low. Its clothing and footwear that have big margins.

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      BIG STU

      7 years ago

      Ok say for the cost of any golf equipment what benefit is it to the local pro say in this case if you buy your Pro Vs from the big box store vs the pro shop? My old man was a club pro and sold different brands of equipment over the years that was “Green Grass Shop Only” When the companies started selling to the mega stores in the mid 80s I remember him saying that this was the end of the local club pro selling equipment that led to him retiring around 85 or so. I know they have MSRP prices on major brands but the local club pro can not nearly stock as much stuff as the big box stores.

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      Sherwin

      7 years ago

      I will spend my money on the products I feel are the best for me. If I can get that products at a lower rate off-course I will. In my experience, the pro shop is always more. I support the game by playing and practice at local facilities and when I go on vacation. The local pro will be ok if I buy my balls (Snell) for a website or from a warehouse club. If he or she is not, they need to look into getting into a new line of work.

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      Mr. Warehouse

      7 years ago

      I hope your customers are just as loyal and concerned about you.

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      MyGolfSpy

      7 years ago

      Just curious, do you work for or in any way with Titleist Mr. Warehouse?

      The sound of

      7 years ago

      crickets………

      Cymbals not criketts

      7 years ago

      No. I do not work for Titleist. They are simply the leader and have been forever. I’m giving them the benefit of my many doubts.

      TopPakRat

      7 years ago

      The scenario stinks! Example, I find two vehicles from 2 different manufacturers with all the same bells and whistles. They are identical in every aspect. One says Mercedes Benz which spends $20,000 per vehicle in marketing, celebrity endorsements, etc. The other says Brand X and they spend nothing in marketing or celebrity endorsements. The Mercedes Benz is $60,000 and the Brand X is $40,000. I buy Brand X and you are telling me I should feel sorry for the Mercedes Benz dealer because I don’t support the millions he spends every year in marketing? I don’t think so.

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      Ryan

      7 years ago

      Perfect Point!!!

      As someone who has worked in the industry, I cant even imagine the budget Titleist has to spend on marketing just for the ball. To be honest Titleist is extremely smart to invest the highest marketing dollars into the highest margin items: Balls, Shoes, Gloves. The consumer is so brainwashed by the ProV1 its actually hard to believe that they’ve lasted this long without some type of consumer revolt.

      With Costco introducing this ball it is a HUGE market disruptor for them ( and other ball companies ) and exposes the actual cost to produce the product.

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      Greg p

      7 years ago

      I’d say you were a smart shopper.
      There may be slight performance benefits in the Benz but are you a good enough driver to notice /take advantage of them? Many folks buy a Benz because of the prestige factor and not because of any handling benefits .

      Back to the ball…how good are you? Would you really be able to notice the difference in a blind test? Is the difference enough to justify paying double?
      If you are a PGA pro, would you be caught dead playing a “costso” ball?

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      Cliff Morgan

      7 years ago

      With all the like new recycled golf ball companies why would you buy new? I just purchased 10 dozen chrome soft for 60% of the new ball price and they look like they were never hit. I loose one or two balls per round so I’m good for at least six months to a year.

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      Dan DeBarr

      7 years ago

      because even at 60% for used chrome soft you can still save $18 if you bought kirkland…..

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      Dan DeBarr

      7 years ago

      60% of $40 dozen is a $24dozen (of used balls)

      kirkland is $15 a dozen (for brand new balls)

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      Cliff Morgan

      7 years ago

      Nitro balls are $6 a dozen new and come in multiple colors

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      DL

      7 years ago

      New v. Used is off topic from this discussion. Potentially a huge variability in performance between new and used balls. Just because they look great on the outside does not mean they will perform as expected, or with the consistency compared to a new golf ball.

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      Nathan Heatherly

      7 years ago

      Your tweet says it all – “@scottryanpayne @Costco They saved you enough money to actually play a round of golf. That’s better.” Money saved goes back to the course anyway. Also, if a course wanted to, they could start stocking Kirkland golfballs and sell them at a slightly higher mark up, but still cheaper than the high priced name brands.

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      Dan

      7 years ago

      you can still support your local golf pro. buy a lesson.

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      Ken

      7 years ago

      What is the durability of the cover. I bought another brand that was reviewed by MyGolfSpy and it did play like the top brand. But the cover did not. You can play the top brand an entire round. The other, not so much. wonder if that is the same with this ball.

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      Jerry

      7 years ago

      I’ve yet to test the Costco ball but will if I get one or two. My method is to hit them on a hole along with my preferred Pro V1x. First, are they as long? Pretty simple if you hit 2 of each and walk out to see. Do that a few holes. Then play a few holes with each, 2nd shots and pitches,chips, putts. If they feel good and spin why not buy them. I did a similar test with Bridgestone a few years back and they were longer and generally as good by I didn’t like them close around the greens and their sound was just not what I was used to. I went back to Pro V’s deciding the ball wasn’t my problem. The one thing that separates me from a good round always comes down to making my second putt.

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      Victor Martinez

      7 years ago

      Jerry,

      Believe the hype with these. My golf ball crazy father-in-law, stalked the Costco website trying to get these and was able to get 8 dozen. Luckily I was the recipient of a dozen from him and it was like winning a game show. I’ve used ProV1 along with the Snell MTB, and I have to say after using the Kirkland, they are all pretty similar in feel. I’m a long ball striker off the tee and I will say the Kirkland does spin nice. Putting it has a slightly harder feel than the ProV1 and the Snell. Not like hitting a rock, but not as soft as the others. It does hold its water throughout the round. I have to say, it is a nice ball. I would definitely give it a try. Different strokes for different folks I guess. It all goes by how you feel. I’m still a little partial the the Snell MTB, but these kirklands are pretty sweet. Good feel around the green as well. Hope you can get your hands on them and have a fun round if you do.

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      Adam Fonseca

      7 years ago

      The consumer should have the right to a choice.

      Golf balls, while the most frequently purchased golf equipment item per golfer, aren’t going to keep the lights on at a Pro-owned golf shop. Having worked at a private club for years, I know for a fact that Pros make their money in other ways.

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      Regis

      7 years ago

      I played for a lot of years at a private club. I took a lot of lessons and purchased a lot of clubs (when available) through him. But in terms of clothing the pro catered to female members and rightly so. But he never had anything in my size. The last couple of years I’ve been playing a muni and the pro runs a great shop. All of the clothing and shoe inventory are Foot Joy or Under Armour(He doesn’t stock clubs) and his selection is unbeatable and his price is the same as anywhere. I buy all my stuff there. But in neither case have I ever considered buying balls as supporting the Pro.

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      Joe Burnett

      7 years ago

      Who cares… just shows how this Acushnet (titleist) ipo is going to fail further. Could we actually see Titleist go out of business?

      This is just capitalism working for us consumers. Period.

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      Bellzo

      7 years ago

      Maybe I missed it earlier, who is producing these Kirkland golf balls?

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      Jeff Hajduk

      7 years ago

      They are made by Nassau in South Korea. It may be the Quattro, a ball played in Asia for the past few years.

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      Aaron Bentley

      7 years ago

      Nicole Broderick these are the balls I mentioned to Jas…

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      Jari Hakonen

      7 years ago

      Profit margins are so bad in golf balls anyways, so does it really make a difference?

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      Jon Kurz

      7 years ago

      Titiest said they “were” great! lol

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      Chal

      7 years ago

      I think if you are a member of a course, then you should absolutely support that golf professional. There are a number of ways to do that. Equipment, clothing, balls, lessons, club events etc.. That said, I buy the golf ball that I think performs best for my game. Just as I try to get fitted for all my clubs. Sometimes that means he orders them and other times it is elsewhere depending on the brand and if he can get it.

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      Doug Off

      7 years ago

      As a PGA Pro, anything that allows people to play more is fine by me. If they don’t buy golf balls from me because of this and it allows me to help them buy the shoes, clubs, or clothes they have been wanting, great. The ultimate goal is more play. This helps!

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      mark

      7 years ago

      Until costco starts selling shoes, and clothes, and more clubs.

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      Anthony Ricketts

      7 years ago

      Well said, sir.

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      Kyle Berry

      7 years ago

      Golf shops can only do so much to compete with big box stores. If golfers want to save $4 a dozen on big name balls go ahead. Working in golf in order to match dicks or others prices most of the time is what we (the golf course) buy them for. They get such discounts buying Titleist or callaway for example in bulk we can’t compete. We don’t price gouge, we make $4-6 a dozen on most name brand balls.

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      Biased

      7 years ago

      I agree with the pricing benefit. I still doubt it is an equal product but well worth the try. A solid golf pro is not relying on ball sales and the $5-10 per dozen he may make. That being said, balls are not significantly more at my local golf shop. Equipment is literally priced the same as everywhere else. My pro even takes trade ins and pays more than the ridiculous PGA value guide so long as its not on a brand new product where he hasn’t even paid the invoice yet. I think the “overpriced” claims on current in line equipment is largely a false perception. Closeouts are the only place he can’t compete. Support your pro when you can. Make the effort when prices are reasonably comparable. If you have to make a trip across town to save a couple bucks it is really not worth the time, effort and gas money. Besides…. is the clerk at Costco gonna spend 15 minutes talking with you about where to play on your vacation or how to address the chipping yips. I think not. Finally, I believe it was Mr. Hogan who told Gary Player, when he called for advice while not playing the Hogan brand…”Go ask Mr. Dunlop”. Loyalty goes both ways. I hope everyone has had good local PGA Professionals like I have had (4 and counting… all good).

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      Justin

      7 years ago

      Completely agree in all points.

      Who are these people supporting when they buy their clubs from a place like DSG, Golf Galaxy, or Edwinn Watts? The one pro that might work there, but is getting paid by the store?

      Golf’s two biggest problems are cost and time. Costco is helping with one part; if people don’t want to partake, that’s fine. But if there’s an avenue that allows for more buying power to the average golfer… what’s wrong with at least considering it?

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      GolfSpy MBP

      7 years ago

      Well said Mr. Covey, well said.

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      Don

      7 years ago

      No offense to any pro’s out there but this is silly. I have only bought things at a pro shop when I have been in dire straits (a la forgot to replenish my gear before getting to the course). Why? Because I know the prices in the pro shops are usually jacked.

      As a consumer I want fair value for what I buy. And if I can get more I will divert to that direction. Why spend more if I don’t have to?

      Btw, I do think I support pga professionals. Lessons, green fees are my contributions. Again it boils down to value for money. I will pay more if I know I am playing a better course. I will pay less if I know it is a lesser course.

      If you have items that are the same in almost every capacity except for price and you choose the more expensive option I would ask what is wrong with you?

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      Robert

      7 years ago

      Bravo!

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      Darin

      7 years ago

      I had the same thoughts as Don as I read this post. I never purchase balls from the pro shop unless I happen to run out or get to the course without my usual supply. I do however play my local course almost exclusively, so I think I am supporting the local guys plenty.

      Golf balls are a consumable product. I lose my fair share, and need to replace others after they are scuffed, worn, etc. In that mindset, if I can get a great, comparable ball for much less money, I would be foolish not to do so.

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      J-Full

      7 years ago

      I couldn’t agree more. The pro shop prices are ridiculous. Are the Pros thinking about OUR wallets when they’re charging us captive audience prices? No they’re not.

      Remember how this site always advocates the golfer doing what’s best for them and being brand agnostic? why should our golf balls be different? Similar to the commenter above i support my pro via lessons and Lord knows i’ve spent 10s of hundreds of dollars(probably more like thousands) on those. So pardon me if i save myself a few bucks on a ball that i’m probably gonna lose because the pro offered me a quick fix instead of trying to find the root cause of my swing issues

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