Titleist Brand Survey – The Results
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Titleist Brand Survey – The Results

Titleist Brand Survey – The Results

You Had Your Say

Last week we asked you to provide your feedback on Titleist as a brand. I think it’s reasonable to assume that we all (myself included) have a tendency to believe that the majority of people see things the way we do, so we thought it was important to learn what you really think.

These brand surveys (this is the first) will provide all of us with a better understanding of how the larger community of golfers views the various golf companies and the their products.

Putting It All Out There

It’s probably fair to say that from my perspective as golf media guy, Titleist hasn’t always been the easiest to work with. They’re not as progressive as some, tighter with product than others, and haven’t always been the best communicators.

Equally as fair a statement is that over the last year or so things have changed (from my perspective, I’d call it improved). Titleist has been more responsive, and far easier to work with. From my narrow media perspective, they have progressed.

From the consumer perspective they’ve stepped up their Social Media efforts, hired some interesting new talent (James Patrick Harrington), and have continued to do what they do best; make quality equipment that always remains true the Titleist tradition, and seemingly never fails to appeal to a certain segment of the golfing population.

My Pre-Conceived Notions

You can bet that every time we publish one of these surveys, we do so with our own expectations of how the results will shake out. Some of the responses we got were basically exactly what I expected. That said, I’d be lying if I told you that some of my perceptions of how others see Titleist have proven to be almost total misconceptions…at least compared to how the majority of you view the company.

The data we share comes directly from our survey results. It’s what you told us. We’re about to show you what your fellow golfers think about the Titleist brand, and because that’s just the kind of thing we do, we’re going to draw our own conclusions about what it means in terms of the outlook for Titleist.

Here’s What You Told Us

1 - titliest postive differentiation-c

The answers to this question were largely as we expected. We had a reasonable belief that most of you associate the Titleist brand with things like quality and performance. In fact a full 38% of you chose Quality as the single most positive differentiator for the Titleist brand.

If there’s a negative in all of this it’s that less than 1% of you chose innovation. Of course, the results could simply mean that when you think Titleist you think of quality before innovation, but not necessarily to the exclusion of it.

That Other line…those who wrote in chose positive terms like “tradition“, “reputation“, and “history“, while those who chose to express a less positive opinion of the brand chose words like “boring“, “arrogance“, “elitism“, and “nothing“.

2 - Titleist Word Association

As with the first question, the top tier results aren’t particularly surprising, and most certainly have to be viewed as a positive for the brand.

68.49% of you chose listed Professional, while another 61.83% selected Quality among your choices.

Once again, the lack of perceived Innovation (less than 12% of you made that association) could be viewed as a negative.

In happier news, negative words like Uninspired, Stale, Irrelevant, and Junk were largely ignored by our survey takers.

3 -Titliest in the bag-b

These results could be cause for concern at Titleist. Despite the fact that the majority of you quite clearly hold the brand in high regard (Quality, Professional, etc.), less than 50% of you have so much as a single Titleist club in your bag.

The clubs that you do carry (Wedges – 35.38%, and Putter – 24.29%) are perhaps more associated with their designers (Vokey and Cameron) than the company itself. They are more driven by the individual than the brand.

The driver number (22.95%) is probably comfortable, but it goes without saying that Titleist would prefer everything be higher.

4 - Titleist 3 year perception

Here’s the real positive. Less than 13% of your opinions towards Titleist have changed for the negative in the last 3 years. Better news for Titleist yet, while a slight majority (51.31%) have maintained consistent opinions, those of you whose opinions have changed for the positive (35.88%) greatly outnumber those sliding towards the negative.

5 - Titleist Believe to Be True

Another real positive for Titleist. The majority of you believe their products are manufactured to tight tolerances, and you believe that as a brand they honor the traditions of the game.

The potential cause for concern here is the fact that so many of you (48.88%) believe that Titleist products target a narrow range of golfers. While Titleist has certainly built a reputation as a brand for the elite player, ultimately that perception could be hurting their bottom line.

Is the belief that their products aren’t for everyone (middle to high handicap golfers) the reason why less than 50% of you actually carry Titleist products?

6 - Titleist Industry Place- b

There’s nothing here not to like if you’re Titleist (again). A majority of our survey takers (51.54%) view Titleist as a leader, while a healthy percentage of you (42.31%) believe Titleist is unconcerned about what others in the industry are doing.

In my opinion, unconcerned is probably the most accurate. If I’m Titleist, what I really love is that only 6.14% view me as a follower.

7 - Titliest equipment comparison

We asked you to compare Titleist’s equipment to its competitor’s, and frankly the results are a little puzzling. In every category, you told us that Titleist clubs are better than the competition’s. In fact, if we aggregate Far Superior and Slightly Better, we get this:

  • Metalwoods – 71.41% better to superior
  • Irons – 81.21% better to superior
  • Wedges 91.36% better to superior
  • Putter – 84.01% better to superior
  • Balls – 95.75% better to superior

Once again, I ask: If the majority of you think very highly of Titleist products, why don’t you have more of them in your bag?

The ball number is astounding. 62.52% of you believe the Titleist ball (presumably the Pro V1) is Far Superior to everything else on the market. When we isolate the younger demographic (30 years and younger), that number actually climbs to almost 70%.

Let me point something out: 60% of you believe that Titleist makes a Far Superior golf ball, yet only 14.72% of you associated the Titleist brand with the word “Marketing“.

Guys…that’s a huge disconnect from reality on both ends. Even if we all believe that Titleist makes the best ball in golf, the leap to Far Superior is a huge one, and there’s no way you get otherwise intelligent golfers to make it without being heavily invested in marketing that proposition.

8 - Titleist Category Compare

Green is good on this slide, and for Titleist there is plenty of it. Only for value did the negatives outpace the positives – and that’s reasonable given Titleist’s above average price point and their tendency to maintain it.

There are always less expensive options.

Once again, innovation raises a red flag. While the majority of you do rank Titleist above average for innovation, 31.44% of view Titleist as below average for innovation while another 8.72% believe Titleist is significantly behind on the innovation front.

9 - Titleist Health Check-b

More good news for Titleist. While Stagnant (36.15%) isn’t ideal, having a a majority (48.88%) believe you’re moving forward is definitely a positive. Toss in another 9.1% percent for improving rapidly, and it’s basically all good.

10 - Titleist vs competition-b

73.8% of you believe Titleist products are above average. Another 19.66% told us that Titleist makes the best products in all of golf.

So here we go again…93.46% of you have, to one degree or another, a warm and fuzzy feeling towards Titleist products, but less than half of you have so much as a single Titleist club in the bag.

Do you have a greater affinity for the golf ball? Where is the disconnect?

Titleist Social Media

There’s no denying that it’s a new world. Social Media is almost certainly here to stay, and it’s most certainly become a part of nearly every golf company’s Social Media strategy. Some are absolutely killing it, some are being killed by it, but almost everybody is trying.

So how is Titleist doing with Social Media, and to what degree is their Social Media influencing your decisions at the register?

Here’s what you told us.

11 - Titleist Do You Follow

I see these results as generally negative for Titleist. Yes…55.08% of golfers who follow other golf companies on Social Media follow Titleist.

55% is a solid number. Of course, it also means that 44.92% of golfers who follow other golf companies on Social Media are not following Titleist.

44.92% is a huge number too, and one Titleist must certainly want to see decrease.

12 - Titleist why no follow

Why aren’t more golfers following Titleist? It turns out, most of them (38.76%) didn’t know Titleist was on Social Media. That’s bad. If golfers are finding your competitors, and not finding you, it’s really bad.

Other big numbers 22.62% (not relevant) and 20.28% (not a fan of Titleist) are to be expected.

13 - Titleist Social Media Engagement

As a guy who follows every golf company on the planet (or so it seems), my personal evaluation is that Titleist is significantly less engaged than its competitors. Only 8.43% agree with me, so that’s a plus for Titleist, I suppose.

To me, engagement is all about interaction, and Titleist simply doesn’t do it.

Quite frankly, for those of you who find Titleist much more engaged (10.37%) than others, I’d suggest you’re following the wrong others.

The bulk of you (32.08%) find Titleist to be slightly more engaged, while 28.38% find Titleist slightly less engaging.

14 - Titleist Social Media brand influence

The results of these question and the one that follows beg for two additional questions:

Is Titleist simply not doing Social Media well? Or..Is Social Media just a giant waste of everybody’s time?

A staggering 75.73% of you said that Social Media had no influence over how you perceive the Titleist brand.

On a more positive note, 17.44% report that Titleist’s Social Media efforts have improved your perceptions of the brand, while less than 3% feel the efforts have diminished perceptions.

15 - Titleist Social media buying influence-b

Here’s your headline: 80.37% of Titleist follows say Social Media effort has not influenced their purchasing decision.

Now it’s possible you have been influenced and you just don’t realize it. Failing that, please refer to the two questions under the previous chart and get back to me.

Once again, a few of you (16.65%) report that Titleist’s Social Media efforts have made you more likely to buy Titleist products, but seriously…80.37% no impact.

It makes one wonder…

16 - Titliest Social Media Effectiveness - b

Once again, I just don’t see it, but I’m in the minority (albeit only a slight minority). I can give you a handful of mid to large sized golf companies who I think are doing a better job at Social Media than Titleist.

Quite frankly, I think below average is a fair evaluation.

I’m also inclined to believe that No Opinion isn’t good for business ever. Indifference is almost never good for business.

On a more positive note 29.18% of you believe Titleist’s efforts are above average, while another 2.44% of you might actually believe Titleist Social Media is the best in golf.

Beyond the Frontline Data

You want to know the most astonishing thing about these survey results?

In a word, consistency.

I presumed that as we sorted the data by age and handicap we’d see a fundamental shift. Older more accomplished golfers would account for the positive feedback, while younger and/or higher handicap players would have a slightly more negative view of the brand.

That’s not reality. While the bars may shift by a few percentage points here or there, the general sentiment towards the brand remains constant. Golfers of all ages and ability levels associate the same words, with almost identical frequency – and those words are overwhelmingly positive.

The one interesting shift is that while older golfers, and the majority of you as a whole, see Titleist primarily as an industry leader, the younger demographic largely views them as unconcerned about the rest of the industry.

Either way, it’s a plus for Titleist.

There is no age range, income level, or handicap group that views Titleist as a follower.

The Takeaway

What we don’t know is how you view Titleist compared to other brands. We’ll learn a whole lot more as we release more brand surveys.

For now, it’s hard to look at the results and conclude anything other than this:

A substantive  majority of golfers hold the Titleist brand in high regard and generally view it favorably versus its competitors.

What do you make of what your fellow golfers told us about Titleist? We want to know what you think about the results. What makes sense, and what completely blows your mind?

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Tony is the Editor of MyGolfSpy where his job is to bring fresh and innovative content to the site. In addition to his editorial responsibilities, he was instrumental in developing MyGolfSpy's data-driven testing methodologies and continues to sift through our data to find the insights that can help improve your game. Tony believes that golfers deserve to know what's real and what's not, and that means MyGolfSpy's equipment coverage must extend beyond the so-called facts as dictated by the same companies that created them. Most of all Tony believes in performance over hype and #PowerToThePlayer.

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      Tony Garcia

      7 years ago

      Hello Tony,

      Great name for starters! I have a group assigned project this semester and we are focused on the Titelist brand, specifically their line of golf clubs. Do you have a more thorough copy of your Titelist brand survey that we could utilize for our project? Any help would be much appreciated.

      Kind regards,
      Tony Garcia

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      Graeme B

      10 years ago

      Hi I currently work for Titleist as a marketing manager in Europe and have been very interested to read through all of the comments above. A few stood out for me
      “Do everything well but nothing outstanding except for the ball.”
      “Cost vs Benefit is not there for most players”
      “Business model prices out of the majority for most oglers”

      I really hope that these aren’t true, with regard to the ball A PROV1 which is the industry leader in golf and has outstanding feedback both from the tour and from amateur golfers alike. But i certainly believe like a lot of people have said above the quality of our product is outstanding, no issues with paint chipping off or cracking heads etc. but the idea that the ball carries the brand i believe is simply not true our new range of drivers that people will see at the PGA this weekend the 915’s are outstanding and would ask if any of you could simply test the product you would think the same!

      I believe we do have a problem with a misconception that our equipment is strictly for lower handicap young golfers and i know that is a major thing for us to try and overcome in the future.
      I will tell you a story that happened to me when I first started in my current role over here. I was traveling with an area saes rep to a golf club in England where we went in to the pro shop and spoke to the pro and his assistants who all loved the brand and wanted some new gear and balls etc, when i got talking to a senior probably around 65-70 years in age who had just finished playing. granted money didn’t seem to be much of an issue for this gent but he had a preconceived notion that our products were not aimed at him nor were they suitable for him. I then asked the pro for some range balls and took the man to the range he brought his ping G15 driver with a regular shaft over with him and i took one of our fitting carts out. He hit about 10 balls with his driver and without knowing i put a very light regular shaft into a 913D2 10.5 degree driver the guy absolutely loved it and purchased the club there and then. SO my point is people may have a preconceived notion our clubs are not meant for them which i believe to be our problem on a marketing front but firmly believe that when people actually get our product in hand and use it against their own they will love it, that said I’m not expecting you to hit the ball 25 yards further or never hit a fade again but trust a fitting expert and have a real go with the product and also speak to your pros about price there is room for some discount granted not a lot but a pro is perfectly able to throw in a box of balls or something to sweeten the deal!

      Many Thanks

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      scratch kelly

      10 years ago

      Titleist has built a solid reputation that they can take advantage of very carefully. They cannot afford to put an edsel on the market trying to expand. I think they could build a really high end “real ” forged iron (like epon or muira) for strong players and come out with a very high quality super game improvement iron that appeals, feels like titleist for folks needing the help or new to the game. They just have to do it right and make it feel like titleist. I think their findings would be a lot like a mercedes amg. A lot of folks are smart enough to love the style but are not going to spend the money to buy into the brand. Anyway I have a lot of Titleist clubs in the bag. All custom fit. Ive hit about 100 other drivers and titleist has been in the bag since I put the callaway great big bertha away. Nice survey. The market research folks will need to digest the data and see if they can get inside the minds of the public. Based on history this great company will move slowly but in the right direction. Thanks for doing this. Great read and very interesting look inside the mind of the public.

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      Hubijerk

      10 years ago

      I’ve thought a bit more about this, and I think what were seeing is other companies closing the gap in performance and characteristics that better players like as well… I’m a + handicap, I play and practice a lot and compete, Titleist is always on my radar but over the last few years I’ve seen other companies close the gap and offer more tour and better player geared stuff… While Titleist isn’t as quick to jump on new fads or tech and the stuff they make appeals to the better player and the classical eye… They may miss out on the new huge product that makes a leap forward, for me this was the x hot 13 degree, Titleist seems to be 2nd or 3rd off the gate in terms of new ideas. I just find other companies to have clubs that I like better, and usually cheaper as everyone points out… Titleist subsidizes many PGA as well as lower tour professionals, as well as the majority of college players and someone has to pay for that… As far as players not wanting to play Titleist because they don’t think theyre good enough, I don’t know,but I don’t believe Titleist gives a player anything extra, just what they put into it. I have fashioned a set that I feel not only performs consistently but also gives me, at least what I percieve to be, a bit extra in an area or 2. Also when it comes to woods and hybrids other companies have started offering more and more real shafts as stock instead of the made for’s, Titleist charges buku bucks to get a decent shaft into their head.

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      Tom T

      10 years ago

      The disconnect you are missing is that while most of us see them as a great equipment company, we don’t feel we are part of the narrow segment that the equipment is made for. Your survey shows that 48.88% feels they market to elite players. I’m a 12 handicapper and I need my clubs to help me a little bit. I never even CONSIDER Titleist when shopping for new sticks. I have always perceived their stuff as being for the scratch player. I only have one friend who plays Titleist clubs, and he is a PGA teaching pro.

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      RCTHEGOLFER

      10 years ago

      Tony – I just read most of the comments (having published mine without reading one to ensure that I was giving original thought). I disagree that “neutral” is a cop out. When I took the survey, there were a couple of questions that I was right in the middle on, and that reflected my true feelings – I didn’t think whatever it was warranted an endorsement, but I also didn’t think it was so terrible as to ding it with a negative rating. The composite you get will still be based on people’s true feelings, and that should be the intent of the survey…anything else skews the results and paints a picture that isn’t reflective of our actual thoughts, because there was not a choice for us to reflect the truth. If you had received 90% neutral for any given item, you could then arrive at the conclusion that most of us come up neutral on that particular question. Maybe have a box appear if someone checks neutral and ask them if forced to “slightly” lean one way or the other, which way would you lean? But that is what you’re doing, you’re forcing us to choose either very good or very bad and that try isn’t out choice.
      I do however appreciate the chance to be heard, and MyGolfSpy is doing a great job as usual and still contains some of the best reviews on the planet!

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      Lawrence Lybarger

      10 years ago

      Social-smocial. The most important thing in business is sales. Two things stand out in the survey: 40% of golfers have NO Titleist clubs in their bag. Why? Very few view them as a GOOD VALUE. Translation: They cost too much!! Amateur golfers don’t always buy into advertising no matter what the source (social media?) They do look at whats in other players bags while on the course and and often give credit to the clubs if that golfer plays well. What are they seeing in others bags? Taylor Made! Neither company pays any attention to custom fitting but lower price moves merchandise, just ask Wal-Mart. Far too much credit is given to the club brand. As Trevino said: “its the indian, not the arrow”. Sales beget more sales.

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      Tyk

      10 years ago

      I’m one of those guys that don’t own a Titleist club but gave Titleist a “Slightly Better” grade on thier products.

      The reason for that is that I do feel that Titleist clubs are better than most, I just don’t feel that they are the best for me in any category. I like thier drivers, almost bought one, but liked the Ping I20 a bit better. I like thier irons, almost pulled the trigger on them, but liked the Mizunos a bit better. I think Cameron putters are superior putters, but they don’t suit me, they’re all just not quite what I’m looking for, and someone else has what I want. In each instance, it isn’t that I didn’t choose Titleist because I didn’t like it, something, usually just personal preference or a slight performance edge has always turned me to a different product. Titleist usually makes the short list of options.

      I wouldn’t hesitate to bag any Titleist product, they just haven’t hooked me yet.

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      Rcthegolfer

      10 years ago

      Hey – you guys skewed the survey towards absolute opinions wherein, in some areas I would have answered “neutral”, yet had no choice but “superior” or “trash” so to speak. Other than that, I have played Titleist balls, Vokey wedges, Scottie putter for years. I also play Cleveland wedges with the same love, recently Srixon balls are in my favor…but don’t ever expect me to putt with anything other than my Newport 2…the balance is phenomenal…it replaced my old Bulls Eye (which, interesting enough was made by Acushnet and was the best putter that I had ever felt before the Newport 2). Ping Irons, Taylor woods, Titleist pretty much everything else…but we all know that the shaft is the real difference maker!

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      Lo-Ball

      10 years ago

      I have a couple statements that may shed some murky light on your results:
      First of all, many of us believe that Titleist’s social media attempts have no impact, because we follow NO club makers. I work on a computer all day and want to get as far away as possible from all technology once I leave the office.
      Secondly, I very much believe that the demographic that most purchases Titleist are the “aspiring to be less of a hacker” group. To not offend anyone, I’ll admit that I am in this group. The guys in my 4 some laugh at oversized GI irons – unless they are Titleist (because Titleist is what the real guys use). Average handicap in our group would be around 10, and the irons played consist of Titleist AP2’s, Wilson FG, Mizuno MP33, and Titleist 695MB. Should we be playing these clubs – probably not, but they sure make me feel like I know what I’m doing… Also, the purists you talk about who love Titleist, play old Titleist.

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      Rick S.

      10 years ago

      I have had Titleist in my bag for some time. I have used various sets of irons now for about 10 – 15 years. They have served me quite well. I carry their Driver 913D and Vokey Wedges. I haven’t found a better performing wedge anywhere. The balls are a no brainer for me because I get them cheaper than others. But to say they are far superior than others is a bit of a stretch. I think Titleist has associated themselves over the years with better players. Hence, the 15-20 handicappers look for something else at a better price.

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      Gary

      10 years ago

      The problem titleist has is cost. They never discount anything. Their golf balls are the best, but at $48 a dozen the average golfer cannot justify playing them. The same goes for all their club offerings. Although their products in general are above average you can find the same product that performs the same at a cheaper cost. I have found that the Chrome plus golf ball performs for me better than the the Pro v1 at a significantly lower price. Watching a $4 golf ball fly in the water is far worse than watching a $ 2.50 ball finding the same fate.

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      Kelly D

      10 years ago

      Great point Gary. You could always try to win a year supply of them –> http://unbouncepages.com/free-golf-balls-for-a-year/.

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      Shark

      10 years ago

      I would hazard an educated guess that most replying they consider titleist “better performing” “better quality “etc… Say that based on perception from advertisin, seeing pro’s play them etc…. I don’t think most violets have for example… Played a titleist set of irons yet claim they are a very good performing item.
      Most of my friends never owned them but are quick to say their top notch.
      I like my 712 ap1 irons….. But in hindsight are they more forgiving or performing than many other cheaper (especially after price drops example taylormad) other iron sets?
      Answer. No.
      Even an employee at a big box golf store said that he feels for price their overrated and even underperforming…. Less forgiving example my ap1 irons…. Vs others.
      Even Mizuno who is great does some price drops vs titleist holding the line.

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      Kenny B

      10 years ago

      Agree with everyone about price being an issue. I responded that I did not play any Titleist clubs. I have played the Vokeys, but they have been replaced by Scor. I had the opportunity to play a brand new complete Titleist set as a rental last year, and I concluded that they were very nice clubs that didn’t suit my game. The ProV1s are top-notch, but as I said before the survey, they are neither better or worse than other brand’s top balls (but I would not rate them “average” either). Good survey! Keep’em coming.

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      Mark

      10 years ago

      I’m one of the responders who doesn’t currently have a Titleist club in the bag. I did have a set of 712 CB/MB combo irons which were stolen out of my car about a year ago. I received insurance money, but was hesitant to replace the irons because of the price. This gave me the impetus to try other brands and I found that the Adams CMBs fit my game better and were $400 less. If the Titleist irons were in the same ballpark price-wise as the others I probably would’ve just bought a new replacement CB/MB combo set right away.
      I also replaced my 3-wood with a 910F (I got at a good price on eBay), but this year went with an Adams 15° LS hybrid, which is more versatile.
      I’ve played ProV1s here and there but don’t think they are any better for my game then the Callaway Chrome + I play and sure as hell am not going to pay $48 per dozen for ANY ball.
      The bottom line for me is that Titleist makes very good products but because of their pricing structure/policies I usually do not see them as a viable option when I’m looking for clubs.

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      Adam Staelin

      10 years ago

      Clubs, schmubs. The social media aspect of the poll was really interesting. I agree, that Titleist is below average on the social media scale (except with their interaction with bloggers). It’s also interesting that so many folks say social media does not matter, but they discount what you (and other bloggers do). They do not realize that by reading MGS (or Three Guys Golf), is in fact an arm Nike social media and we do in fact move the needle for golf companies. Yes, I know MSG is totally independent, but the fact is you have a relationship with Nike.

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      Hubijerk

      10 years ago

      Count me as one of those who believe Titleist makes above average products but chooses not to bag any save for the ball, which I also believe is a superior ball due to experience, not hype. If I had only 1 company to choose from to fashion a whole set Titleist would be near or at the top of my list, all of their clubs are solid, in college I played titleist as we got a hefty discount. But Titleist, in my opinion, makes clubs that don’t stand out in any particular way. Their drivers and woods are excellent, I bag a pair of Callaway’s now which I find superior to the Titleist offerings, Mizuno blades which, once again, while titleist irons are above average, my mizuno’s outclass my old AP2’s by quite a bit and I found them to be better for me than titleists mb offering, My Mizuno wedges are better for me than my old Vokeys too, and there are certainly other options such as scratch, cleveland, and the new Callaways which match up well against the Vokey’s…. In short, Titleist is a solid, no nonsense golf company, I could easily use a whole set of theirs off the rack and not miss a beat, they do everything well, but nothing outstanding, except for the ball… which is where they make all their money anyway isn’t it? Profit margin on a box of pro v’s must be staggering.

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      Wedgewizard

      10 years ago

      Agree with almost everyone, the price is the issue with titleist!

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      Darren

      10 years ago

      I applaud MyGolfSpy.com for the work and foresight in conducting the survey. However, I must say that I am surprised at the confusion as to why the public does not buy Titleist even though they praise and even covet the company’s products. It was touched upon above but I will reiterate the reason, price, price, price. Value is different than price and that was not asked in the survey. I believe Titleist are the best clubs with the finest craftsmanship and performance, but is don’t own them. Titleist clubs are great and deserve to be sold at a premium and therefore provide value, I just can’t personally can’t afford them. I will be purchasing clubs this year, my first new set in over ten years, every bit of my gut, shots at the golf shop, and performance numbers direct me to get the Titleist set of my dreams, but I simply can’t, with good conscience, ask my family to understand allowing me, a knowledgable but casual golfer, to spend $2500 dollars for a top to bottom Titleist bag. I need to update each and every club, and this is just too much for me to part with. Furthermore, other than 100 dollars here or there, the clubs will never go on sale, Titleist shouldn’t cheapen their brand by doing so, so I will have to keep dreaming and likely buy something else that almost gets me to that level of satisfaction and allows me to still enjoy the game while saving a few dollars.

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      David W

      10 years ago

      The biggest surprise to me here was the “slightly better” across the board for clubs. I would be willing to bet that of the 4K or so people that filled out the response, only about 10% to 15% would choose a Titleist Driver if given the opportunity to choose any driver available. In fact, I would bet that if everyone was told to name their top two drivers and that they would receive one or the other (but wouldn’t know which until naming them) that only about 20% to 30% would choose Titleist as one of those top two.

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      Kyle

      10 years ago

      I saw some other comments hit it right on the head…Titleist is great, but their business model prices out the majority of players. They don’t allow retailers to discount their products at all while companies like Taylormade are dying to get their products sold. Titleist’s irons, wedges, balls and drivers are all more expensive than just about every other brand. I would love to play Titleist but I don’t think their wedges are that much better than Cleveland, who is consistently $20-40 less. The cost/benefit just isn’t there for most players.

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      Phil

      10 years ago

      Many golfers love a bargain and it is rare that Titleist product is available in the bargain bin. That said Titleist (Acushnet) had market share in the game improvement segment (and lower price segment) with Cobra but chose to leave that market by selling the brand (or were forced to by lack of profitability?).

      Personally couldn’t give a flip about social media but i suspect that it encourages brand loyalty more than the orginal “first” purchase.

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      DWchen

      10 years ago

      Same as all other responders, higher price tag, lower availability, very rare promotion discount are the main reasons for people to own Titleist clubs. I just got a full set of Titleist club. I have to save up almost an year to pay for club fitting and the set.

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      MHKduffer

      10 years ago

      I only carry Titleist wedges and will occasionally play their balls. And T you’re correct, it has to do more with Vokey than Titleist. Here’s my rough break down of why I don’t carry Titleist clubs even though I feel they’re good quality.

      #1 Price – If I can pump it our there farther and straighter with a driver/fairway $100-$150 cheaper than Titleist I will not but it. (It’s what I did. Game an RBZ because of price point, distance, and accuracy advantages.)

      #2 Target Audience – From the marketing I can recall I don’t feel like Titleist cares about the mid to high handicapper. They make balls and equipment for pros, and promote them as such.

      #3 The Ball – My perception, although it may not be completely accurate, is that they care more concerned about promoting their ball and how many pros play it, than marketing equipment for the regular golfer.

      I could go on but this basically is why I don’t play more Titleist equipment. Another note about the disconnect you were asking about. Even though we sort of connect with pro’s, they’re on a different planet. They’re out of our league and Titleist brands themselves as the equipment for the professional golfer.

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      Ryan

      10 years ago

      The ball thing is the one that kills me. If you think they make the best ball by far, then you have not tried anything from any other company. Titleist makes a very good golf ball, the Pro V1 and Pro V1x are both very good. That said, Callaway and Srixon to name 2 companies are every bit as good. For me personally, they both perform better than Titleist..

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      FinallyShotPar

      10 years ago

      I never really considered myself a Titleist player. I’ve been trying out a great number of clubs over the past few years, and have basically completed my set. I keep what works. And just realized I ended 4 titleist clubs in my bag – a Scotty putter, a 910h hybrid, a custom 62* spin milled wedge and a 50* wedge. I don’t know why but all of their clubs I use seem to simply perform solidly. So I agree with this survey it seems accurate, and for good reason.

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      kygolfer1980

      10 years ago

      Results were pretty close to what I expected. I am very very happy to see James Patrick coming aboard and hope they introduce his products to the US market. As far as the putter line, I know they are high quality but they are still production and not custom. I have grown to prefer the custom lines knowing the putter maker has actually put work in on my putter. The putters Scotty actually works on I would guess all have tour stamps on them which means I could never afford it. Still love the brand and will continue to consider it when they put out a new product.

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      Displayname

      10 years ago

      Do Callaway next! I would love to see contrasting results from a brand that does very little in social to a brand that does SO much. I would predict huge differences in several categories, and I’d personally love to see the data.

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      Gordon

      10 years ago

      I thought the survey was very good, and the results certainly do not surprise me. I am looking forward to other survey’s about other brands.
      I do believe if the balls had been included in “in the bag equpiment” a lot of responders would have have titleist balls in the bag. ( I understand that question was specifically about the clubs however.) Pro V’s are not my ball of choice, although I always carry a sleeve, but Velocity’s and DTSOLO’s along with Srixon’s Z star have been in my bag the last 2 years.

      For me, the cost of the Titleist equipment is a bit prohibitive, and I will be honest and say that my opinion of their product is, it is for “better players”. This has prevented me from really giving their clubs a serious look.
      I am currently an 18 handicap, who can go lower in stretches, and I don’t feel I need a “players” club or “pro” series piece of equipment for my game.
      Maybe I am short changing myself and should consider Titleist in the future, whenever I am in the market for new equpiment.
      I am going to be replacing my sandwedge this winter, so Cleveland and Titleist Vokey were already on the list for that.

      I realize it is an older thinking, but “forgiveness” is not something I associate with Titleist equpiment, more so performance, and I only really it is on the scews a few times a round….. I look for forgiveness along with decent performance.
      I know Titleist is good, very good, just never really thought “that stuff’s for me.” Ya know?

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      John Barba

      10 years ago

      Two comments —

      First is about “average” when it comes to clubs. As a club ho, I like to hit just about every club out there given a chance at GG or Golfsmith. They all seem pretty good to me – in fact, very good. No real junk, as far as I can tell. Some may fit my game better than others, but among the usual suspects there’s not a junky club out there. So does that mean “average” is very good? If Titleist clubs are viewed as above average, then Titleist should be very happy about that.

      The other is about price. Learned a long time ago that business is a game of margins, not volume. If Titleist decides to maintain their margins in order to protect their bottom line, then good for them. The survey also suggests that Titleist is not viewed as a follower. Discounting their product like other companies would certainly put them in the follower category. Titleist seems to follow the every two year product release cycle, so discounting their product would do serious damage to their margins, which would force them into an every-year product release cycle, and we know how much everyone hates that!

      If you’re happy with your market share, margins and profitability, then why on earth would you lower your price? One thing that VERY hard, if not impossible, to do is to cut your price and make it up in volume.

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      SMRT

      10 years ago

      I was not surprised by the results. Titleist equipment always performs. They may not have the longest driver or the prettiest wedges but the user is confident that the equipment is going to perform consistently every round. In my opinion, the only downfall is the price. As they always say, you get what you pay for!

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      Shark

      10 years ago

      I have a perceived impression they are a quality company. I bought titleist ap1 irons this past year as I am a good golfer who wanted a slightly game improvement set that didn’t look clunky.
      I joined their team titleist social media email club. Other than a few surveys I have received nothing more than a plastic bag tag in return.
      Not sure of the value to me belonging to their social club.
      For value u don’t look too titleist as their price point is so high.
      I love prov1 balls but I can’t afford watching a $5 ball fly into the pond.

      There is tons of good quality competitors that go on sale making value of them better. Only resale is a benefit holding it’s value better. But I could buy 2 discontinued recent taylormade or cobra model drivers for the price of one titleist.

      I think u overpay for their brand rep but then again i did for irons.

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      Kris

      10 years ago

      I know you answered this already, but just so you know, there were a few questions were an ‘average’ option would have been good for me. And just b/c I answered slightly above on a given question doesn’t mean I think it better than other companies’ product, just that I think it a valid option when buying. And yes the price is normally the issue for me with Titleist. For example, their SM3 wedges are on ‘sale’ right now for 130 (Canadian so normal price is 160), despite the SM5s coming out soon. I normally buy things a year or 2+ old (my Covert driver and new Zstar balls being the exception), so never get any Titleist clubs b/c they’re never truly on sale.

      As for your wondering if social media is a waste of a company’s time, I have purchased or seriously-considered-purchasing-when-I-wouldn’t-have-otherwise a club/ball due to interactions on social media. The Callaway people and my local Nike rep are 2 that come to mind immediately.

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      Charles

      10 years ago

      None of the questions allowed for a neutral opinion and i think that it was obvious that it biased the results by forcing us to be either negative or positive.

      Also, you missed the obvious reason behind this ownership gap vs their public perception: their clubs and equipment are all really nice but are not a good value considering their pricing. Even the 910 line of drivers is still selling for 400$ as a base price even though the 913 is a year old already. The R1 is 250$ or less already so I get to spend 150$ more on a shaft or whatever else and I get better value. I’d probably get the older 910 over the R1 if they were the same price but the fact is there isn’t enough performance difference from the head alone to justify the cost. Same with the ProV1x. I’d get them every time if they weren’t 50$ a dozen; the B330, 20XI, etc are all better deals and not much of a downgrade at all.

      So even though the brand may be really great, I’d never spend for it the way they want me to. If they want more customers, they should sell for a bit cheaper or at least aim to drop prices on their older gear for those of us who are broke so at least we can afford the option of playing the clubs.

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      TxGolfJunkie

      10 years ago

      Titleist has a different approach to the retail market that might leave a bad taste in people’s mouth. Titleist is one of those companies that does not allow discounts on their products. Anytime you receive a discount to Golfsmith, Golf Galaxy, Edwin Watts, etc, Titleist and Ping are guaranteed to not allow the discounts. They are a full MSRP company and nothing off the top. TaylorMade and Nike appear to have price cuts, allows discounts to be applied to their products, etc. but not Titleist. And if Titleist catches you discounting their products, they get pretty upset.

      Don’t get me wrong, they make the best ball on the market in the Pro V1x but a lot of their products aren’t as forgiving as others on the market and with most golfers around the 15 handicap mark, folks are looking for something that allows for mishits and also doesn’t drain the wallet. I applaud the quality of their products, but I don’t bag any of their woods/hybrids/irons/wedges/putters due to the lack of foregiveness and the fact that I have found ther products at a better price that fit my swing.

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      Jim

      10 years ago

      I think the big item that was missing was cost. Titliest makes great quality clubs, but they tend to be more expensive than the competition and therefore beyond the reach of a lot of golfers. I only bag the wedges as they are comparable in price, but in recently choosing a new driver the cost was prohibitive. Plus unlike most manufacturers Titliest doesn’t discount their clubs at years end, rather taking them back versus selling them at a discount rate. This time of year is a great time to purchase clubs at lower costs, just not Titliest clubs. Too bad they make very nice clubs. The other point is that their irons are still perceived as for only better players and a lot of golfers will shy away in favor of more forgiving clubs – rightly or wrongly, that’s still the perception. Might be worth rethinking their strategies I guess.

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      jmiller065

      10 years ago

      I would like to suggest adding another option to the performance “far superior”, “slightly better”, {add a neutral option here}, “slightly worse”, “significantly worse”.

      i bounced a few tweets back for forth with T / Matt when this was going on, perception is not always the correct reality. I like the new survey thing by the way.

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      chris

      10 years ago

      I thought there was a question missing in the club section. “If you do not play a Titleist driver, why not?” Same for Irons, Fairway/hybrids etc.

      I think the answers would have been largely
      “Too expensive”
      “Doesn’t work for my game”
      “My club has better technology”

      while none of those things may be completely true, the perception that they are true is haunting for Titleist. And it does not help them from a club sale standpoint that they have positioned their brand as elitist and a bit arrogant honestly. Patrician is the word that comes to mind. If TM, Cally and Nike represent the PGA Tour and its players in the golfing public’s mind then Titleist represents the USGA and country clubs.

      I think you would have as many responses from those that do play Titleist clubs that they do so because..

      “they are the best, and I can afford the best”. Again, probably not entirely true either but perception is reality, right? And I believe the perception is that Titleist is the rich man’s brand.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      Chris – that’s an interesting potential question. I may look to include it next time around.

      I actually cut several questions for fear of making the survey too long and unwieldy. We definitely want to be careful to not ask too much.

      Yesterday I received a Golf Datatech Survey…5 minutes and several repetitive questions later I closed the browser window. We don’t want that to happen with our surveys.

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      golfercraig

      10 years ago

      Tony–

      the answer to why people don’t have Titleist clubs in their bag is price, and price only. There aren’t closeouts form Titleist. they would rather run out of product than have it sold for pennies on the dollar. Marketshare in hardgoods means nothing to them if it negatively effects their operating margin. And good for them. R9 SuperTri AND 910 D2 came out at the same time, at the same price. D2 is worth a minimum of twice as much currently. Supertri was sold for as little as $149 at the end of the life cycle. No chance in hell you saw a 910 for $149. It’s a choice Titleist has made. It’s a matter of opinion whether it’s the correct choice or not, but they clearly believe it is.

      Regis

      10 years ago

      I got the 910 D2 for $186 about three weeks ago from a reputable dealer. Same price as the R1 and Ping G20. Absolutely love the 910 but lets be fair. You can’t critcize TM for coming out with too many new models and then try and compare the discount price of their three year old Supertri (which I also have and love) with the relatively recent 910. Since the R9 Super Tri TM has introduced the R11,R11S, R1, Rocketballz and Rocketbalz 2. Oh and by the way the 910 head was made in China and the shaft choices were all “made for” just like the TM models which draw so much criticism.

      chris

      10 years ago

      Tony, I wasn’t knocking the survey at all. I was trying to point more toward how the buyer feels about Titleist and the competition and why. I think they act like who they are and the market reflects it

      dru

      10 years ago

      I know that I personally fall into the ‘regard Titleist well, but don’t carry any Titleist product on a regular basis’ group. I have considered the 913 driver and fairway, but we are talking about products that start at $100 more than competitive products, with far lower ready availability at the Retail level.

      One of the things I see often, is that truly custom fitting and builds frequently build using Titleist, and the results are very very good, but you just don’t see Titleist clubs being played off the shelf.

      As for the balls, I do play them on occasion, because that is all the pro shop at my home course carries. I do not prefer them, though they are very good and the ‘standard’ for balls, my experience here is that there are good equivalents at lower price points across their entire product offerings.

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      AH

      10 years ago

      Just a few items that the survey didn’t allow to explain why I answered the way I did.

      I am not loyal to any one brand. If a Top Flite ball made for a female player would help me score lower I would play it.

      I just replaced a Titleist 910 driver that was a great club. I replaced it because I found something that was more consistent for my swing. I gave up 10 yards or so of distance for 10 yards of better accuracy.

      I still play two Titleist hybrids and one wedge that are all three great clubs. I don’t have any reason to replace them at this time.

      I have had just about every major brand in my bag at one point or another and I ranked Titleist high in the quality section because that’s what their clubs are above all else.

      I’ve never had the paint on my Titleist clubs just flake off like I’ve had happen on Nike clubs. I’ve never had the heads crack on any Titleist club I’ve owned like I’ve had happen twice on Taylor Made drivers I’ve owned or once on one from Callaway.

      I’ve never had any heads go flying off of the shaft like I’ve had happen on my Ping irons once. I’ve never had to regrip one of them two weeks after using it because for whatever reason the stock grip was sliding around on the club.

      Perhaps I’ve been lucky, but I’ve owned a ton of clubs and Titleist is expensive and sometimes they don’t make the best club for a certain purpose, but I feel confident in saying that if you decide to spend the money on one, you most likely won’t be unhappy with it’s build quality.

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      TheHacker

      10 years ago

      The only reason why I shy away from Titleist balls is price, for some reason, Titleist balls loves water hazards, and every time one goes into the drink, it hurts me really bad. I can do without the additional pressure.

      I’m already using Titleist irons, and would definitely consider their 712 or 714 blades, which are lovely IMHO. As for drivers and woods, there are newer and more high tech ones in the market, so I might not consider Titleist drivers.

      As for wedges, I’m very happy with my Cleveland wedges, and will not change them anytime soon. Ditto my putter which incidentally is a Scotty.

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      John

      10 years ago

      Interesting to see the stats on the woods not being held in higher regard. I have never hit a driver that is as consistant as the 913. I don’t believe it is the longest driver out there but I definitely believe that overall (distance+accuracy) the Titleist driver is the best driver out there. It’s too bad that people put so much stock into distance and very little into control. 913 fairway and hybrid are also tops in their respective categories.

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      David W

      10 years ago

      John, you may be right about the 913 but the problem is that the older models such as the 910 were not forgiving clubs and had a small sweet spot. Because Titleist is so expensive, people who were turned off of Titleist due to the older model clubs won’t take a chance on the newer models.

      David W

      10 years ago

      Also, what do you mean but them not being held in high regard? They were overwhelmingly “slightly better” than the competition. It surprised me that the positive responses were that high. Most people I talk to consider Titleist drivers behind the other top brands in the sense that they feel they aren’t as easy to hit.

      CuriousDude

      10 years ago

      How many responses did you get. I never saw a sample size in your analysis – maybe I missed it.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      I elected not to include the total survey count, but since you asked…We received just shy of 4K completed surveys.

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      The Mik

      10 years ago

      The results are not surprising. Pretty damning stats regarding social media. There’s absolutely no excuse for major company’s to not be engaged in social media. They’re doing a major dis-service to themselves and most importantly to their fans/customers.

      Can’t wait to see the TMag stats…….should be very interesting!

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      golfercraig

      10 years ago

      As someone who spent considerable time working with a Fortune 500 company on social media (constructing policies and strategies to use it), I can tell you in no uncertain terms that social media is a complete waste of time and resources. There are exactly zero studies that show even a small ROI. There are plenty of companies trying to sell themselves to you that will tell you otherwise. They are lying, and trying to sell themselves to you. It means exactly ZERO to the bottom line of an already running company.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      I can tell you from the MyGolfSpy experience that Social Media is great for driving traffic. Of course, fundamentally, traffic is what drives my business.

      For a more traditional company…you know…the kind where actual PRODUCT SALES drive the business, I’m become less and less convinced of the actual value. Bad social media can hurt you, but I’m not sure to what extent good social media efforts can really improve the bottom line.

      I’m fairly certain there’s at least one golf brand that will tell you that Social Media has been an integral part of their success, but how can you really trace the source?

      golfercraig

      10 years ago

      The company itself will tell you that, or the guy who sold himself as an expert on it to the company will tell you that? 2 very different things. I’d say having product that doesn’t suck has helped them the most.

      mygolfspy

      10 years ago

      Influence is influence no matter if it is being referred to on the original “Pyramid Of Influence” or what that person likes to call the “Sphere Of Influence”. And while current studies might show lack of ROI, they would be wrong in saying that the people engaging with that brand are not “influencing” others by what they see and read through their efforts on Social Media.

      And traffic derived from Social Media efforts also comes with value. ROI is based on these numbers from a trafic standpoint. So if you convert at a rate of 2.5% (what ever you are trying to convert ex: sales, sign-ups, etc) from your site and your drive more traffic due to Social Media efforts then in theory that conversion rate stays at a similar rate. So, I would disagree with you on this one Craig. From all the research I have done on my end I definitely see results for brands. It might not be as tangible at the moment but it is there. IMO

      John Barba

      10 years ago

      Social media is like advertising – it’s part of imprinting your brand image in the minds of your customers. I look at social media as I would the left guard on the offensive line. No left guard has ever single-handedly won a football game. But a good left tackle, working in conjunction with the rest of the offensive line and the rest of the offense as a whole is an important contributor to success.

      And if you don’t have a left guard at all? Well, God help your quarterback…

      A solid overall marketing strategy helps your sales people sell your product (as long as the product is solid). I’ve shared this poem here before, but it certainly fits:

      “He has a thing to sell
      And goes and whispers in a well
      Is not as apt to get the dollars
      As he who climbs a tree and hollers.”

      IMO – social media is another tree from which to holler. Done well it can only help. Can you track direct cause and affect sales? Doubtful, if not impossible, but in my own experience it’s an invaluable part of the long term effort of branding and top-of-mind reference. That gives you a chance to sell. Good products, service and salesmanship help close the deal…

      The Mik

      10 years ago

      Could not disagree more. When you consider all the mobile devices that everyone seems to carry these days and the constant ‘need’ for the average person to engage in social media (ie Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, YouTube etc), any company that elects not to take these seriously, is really shooting themselves in the foot.

      Not sure what company’s you’ve dealt with, but I can vouch for the success of social media across several different industries with very positive results.

      Like it or not, social media is here to stay.

      Bud Davis

      10 years ago

      When I took the survey I was disappointed to see that some of your choices were inadequate. For example, I don’t think Titleist is either “above average” or “below average”, or “slightly better” or “slightly worse” than other companies. There needed to be more opportunities to choose “average” or “neutral” in the survey itself.

      Also, the comments you made regarding innovation as it applies to Titleist reflect my opinion perfectly. I personally attribute their success as a company to aggressive marketing. They have a huge presence in television advertising. For example, when consumers hear “the best ball in golf”, many of them will simply buy it whether it fits their game or not. I don’t believe Titleist is a leader in innovation. Their product offerings are well made, but not “better” or “worse” than anyone else. If they didn’t spend a fortune on advertising, they wouldn’t be able to afford to jack up their prices so they can pay endorsement fees for Adam Scott et. al. because no one would have heard of them.

      Their prices are higher, in my opinion, because they have to be able to pay for their advertising. The advertising helps to move product. Moving product helps to pay for the endorsement deals.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      Bud, the choice to leave out the middle road was a conscious decision on my part. We wanted to force people to think, and ultimately take a more conclusive position.

      Average is a mathematical construct, but almost nothing is ever truly average. If I give you 4 or 5…any number of drivers to hit, we can determine the average distance you hit both with each driver and the group as whole. Chances are you won’t have hit a single drive with any club that matches that single club average, and when we compare them as a whole, you won’t have a single club that exactly matches your group average either. Every club you hit will be either above or below the true average…odds are nothing will be exactly average.

      While obviously that doesn’t have a 1 to 1 correlation to a survey response, along the same lines if I gave you any number of clubs to choose from or rank, you would eventually arrive at some sort of order where even in the middle of your stack, if forced to choose you’d almost certainly have a preference for one over another.

      Simply put, to an extent I feel like average and neutral are easy road cop-outs. If our respondents as a group feel that any given brand is just average in any category, that will show up as an equal balance between the better and the worse.

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      Christopher Kee

      10 years ago

      I agree here as well. There was no choice to say “it’s the same” or “average” of most of the questions I was asked. I don’t think Titleist irons are superior to Mizuno (my brand) but I don’t think it’s inferrior either. the 712MB feel about the same as the MP68 I was playing. The survey did not give this as a choice though.

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      revkev

      10 years ago

      Actually T’s decision makes perfect sense. While an individual respondent may wish to pick the same as or average too many of these answers will skew the results. If in fact the product is the same as or average those who are forced to make a choice will even out given a large enough sample size.

      I see this sort of thing all the time when putting couples through pre-marital counselling. If I say nothing and allow them to take the survey that I give and they pick lots of neutral answers I get an incomplete picture of who they are and where they are at.

      While each of us as individuals would like to have our opinions heard the purpose here was to provide a composite. That’s what we’ve got. It’s also a composite about what we believe in regards to Titleist. Chances are strong that we believe that media such as TV and social networking has little impact on our decision making or our opinion about the brand – whether that’s true or not is for someone else to decipher.

      T got what we think.

      I can’t wait for the next survey.

      BlkNGld

      10 years ago

      While I understand the desire to force people to think, I agree with the others.

      You might say average or no real difference from anyone else in some area, but with these choices the inclination is going to be to choose the ‘better’ option unless you have a negative view of the brand. In effect we choose err on the good rather than the bad side.

      I suspect that when enough of these surveys are done you’ll see a lot of the middle of the road brands rated positively and wonder why the survey results don’t match up with the market.

      Skyking

      10 years ago

      Having retired fairly young several months ago I decided to work with some excellent people at yes…a big box store until the wife retires. I quickly became a Ping certified fitter since that’s what I played. Just became a Titleist certified fitter. Titleist has an EXCELLENT certification program BUT the vast majority of customers won’t allow me to do my job and fit them for the Titleist equipment to maximize their skill. For example, had a 15 index last week who HATED the look of the 714 AP1’s, wanted the CB or MB’s and needed a stiff heavy shaft…really? He was the customer but his handicap will probably go up and he’ll soon be saying the irons are crap.

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