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My name is Adam Beach. This place, this site, it’s more than just a business to me, it truly is an expression of who I am and what I believe in, down to my core. I feel the work I do is a reflection of who I am and the idea behind the work I do is more important than the work itself. You see, I don’t actually see myself in the golf business at all, I am in the business of caring. I am a guy who wakes up with one goal: do the right thing.
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Adam Beach
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| Driver PING G430 Max 10k | Hybrid PING G430 |
| Irons Srixon ZX5 MK II | Wedges TaylorMade MG4 |
| Putter EVNROLL ER2 | Ball Titleist Pro V1x Left Dash |
Adam Beach
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Brad Servey
12 years ago
I love golf as much as anybody alive but after reading all this crap i’m not sure I like golfers very much at all. There are probably about a thousand golfers on the planet that can tell the difference between these irons. Do the math — it’s not many. All others please shut your yappers.
RON
12 years ago
RAY by the way I had Scratch irons at one time and their head weights were all over the place, not to mention I threw them in the trash because their WAY too soft you cant tell where on the face you hit it because me like alot of other good players want to feel the ball off the face and you cant do that with alot of Japan made models because their way too soft. They dont even know how to make a solid iron like titleist because they only know how to make them one way and thats soft which is pathetic. Miuras on the other hand are not as soft as all the other Japan made crap thats why they were more excepted by gys on tour.
RON
12 years ago
Ray Im a plus 1 like you and I can emulate any furyk, couples, ray foyd swing and make it look exactly like theirs AND hit it just as good and ive done this in
front of lots of people, so dont tell me your feel is better, you would be lucky to make solid contact with the ball if you somehow made a move that totally emulated theirs so regardless of yr handicapp you dont have the gift that I have when it comes to feel you tool. I know some Japan forgings are soft ,BIG DEAL that doesnt mean their better made why do you think guys on tour who are sponsered by FOURTEEN , there are 2 of them and they have titleist and s56 irons in their bag and only use their wedges and thats because they have to in order to keep the company as a sponser. Bottom line is they play NO different than 588 irons or say razr x forged. Ive known good players who tried Scratch, fourteen, miura even Honma what a joke those things are by the way, and none of them liked either one of them. Ill put a BEN HOGAN APEX AND A WILSON STAFF FLUID FEEL AND MACGREGOR IRON FROM THE 80s up against any of those japan made clubs and their FAR more supeior not to mention there shafts are all frequency matched to their heads , something Japan companys like that wont do for their clubs that hogan irons all had back then. They only thing thats better with japan made irons when compared to todays oems is their tolerences of head weights are tighter thats all.
RON
12 years ago
The jerks out there who talk about only buying irons made in japan , give me a break with that crap you gys couldnever ever in yr wildess dreams tell the difference if I handed you an iron that was made in both places, and this is comming from a real good player and your feel aint is good as mine and I couldnt even tell difference. Back in the 80s the clubs made here were ten times better than ones made in Japan, Japan was CRAP so get off this stupid Japan made BS.
Ray
12 years ago
Ron – you sound like a real super star. You are better than me? I am a plus 1. I would like to meet you some time and smoke you on the course you tool. Your feel must suck if you can’t tell a softer forging from a harder one.
Gary Miller
12 years ago
I’ve been playing the MB now for a month and they are fantastic. Absolutely gorgeous, long and straight. If you look at the old Cleveland 588 irons you’ll see the similarity of the new styling. If you are considering blades take a hard look at these. Thank you Cleveland!
Hoovergolf 68
12 years ago
Ordered the CB’s after a demo. WOW Soft and responsive. These will replace my CG4 Tour’s which were soft as well, but a little muted. Was waiting for Cleveland to finally get into a forged club again and these did not disappoint. They do have a late nineties Hogan look about them in my opinion. BTW, an awful lot of Titleist and Mizuno snobs out there. Geez, quit the hatin’, and like what you play but keep the elitist nonsense to yourself. Different strokes for different folks.
Ray
12 years ago
As soft as mizzy. Same forging. Sixon makes these and is number one forger in Japan. Have always played mizzy. I own mp 14, 33 , 59 and t zoids. I recently demoed these cleveland mb and cb and they are as buttery as any of the above. I actually liked them better. I will be buying them. Super pure feeling
John
12 years ago
The blades look great. Much like my old 690.MB titleist irons. If I were in the market for new,blade irons, these would be on my list to demo. Looks are right up there with the MP-69 and Titleist MB irons. What more could you ask for, irons that look like they should without cavities, overhangs and thick top lines. Most new irons look like Rube Goldberg inventions, and have ldecreased the skill needed to play the game. It has caused less separation between top players and journeymen.
Gary Miller
12 years ago
I ordered a set and I can’t wait until they ship. I don’t see the attempt to copy any other American blade on the market, but they do look like some of the Japanese forgings. Anyway they look a lot like many of the USA blades from the 1970s.I also ordered the Mashie 3 wood and a hybrid.
Murphy
12 years ago
do u guys buy the clubs for the look or for the performance? umm ill take performance.
Kenny
12 years ago
These irons look great. Forged in japan. Mizuno wishes they could make a club this good. An original Roger Cleveland design. As far as Callaway tanking with Roger designing clubs you havent hit the razr muscle back. I have a set of 588’s on order and play the razr muscle back and can’t be sure which set will stay in the bag.
d2500
12 years ago
yeah jesus, well you could say titleist mbs copied so and so….a blade is a blade….i like em….how many ways can you make a chrome mb blade? thats what i thought
good for cleveland comin back to the forged players cb, if they are soft and have a good grind i would play them
Bill Borum
12 years ago
I currently play your cb16 tour with the 300 gold stiff shaft. I’m very interested in trying your new blades . would I stay with the same shaft ? and how soon well these tons be available ?
kiets
12 years ago
I honestly love these things, i dont understand why people keep comparing them to the titleist irons though, first, what else do you want from a blade, they’re all going to look similar on the back because there is not mcuh to them to begin with so theres nothing a manufactuer can do to make them visibly different, and the CB’s have a little bit differnet look to them, these irons are going to be amazing, you can just see the feel they are going to have in them.
Mike
13 years ago
Seen and touched the new 588. Awesome. Polished look outstanding for club. Nice and shiny. Top line and look at address is second to none. Can’t wait until February!
Travis
13 years ago
USA or Japan and I would buy them!
Pat
13 years ago
These look awesome!!!! I bet they are forged in Japan also. That alone puts them in elite company. Most clubs are forged in china now days including titleist.
Travis
13 years ago
I don’t think you can pass fair judgement until you can see the irons at address. Mizuno blades can NOT be beat PERIOD! This is not an opinion, Mizunos are forged in the motherland! JAPAN! not sure about clevelands but all these companies these days are looking to China , and in NIKEs case Thailand … Give me a break!!!!! 900 dollar irons forged by a 12 year old making 25 cents an hour?????????????? Please !!!!! Keep it real .. Go with Mizuno!
Anybody know any woods made in USA or Japan these days??????????
Golfdude73
13 years ago
I think the irons mb or cb look great. As a Cleveland staff member I look forward to playing them this season. As far as them being copies of the titleist get real. In order to get a true blade there is only so much you can do. In all reality all they can ever do is rerelease an old blade and tweak it.
Gareth
13 years ago
Those look like classic styled blades. I have played with Cleveland blades before I did like the feel but I ended with Srixon I-403AD cavity.
Tyler
13 years ago
The new Cleveland blades look great. They don’t look like the Titleist MB’s at all. They look a little like the Macgregor Pro-M blades. The CB’s look pretty good as well, i think they look like some old Ben Hogans. And anyone that actually can say that Cleveland is copying Titleist Vokey wedges doesn’t know their stuff. If anything Titleist copied Cleveland wedges. Why would the number one wedge in golf copy the number two to wedge? doesn’t make sense to me.
P-Gunna
13 years ago
I agree with you, Cleveland is the Wedge brand and they have no need to be basing their wedges off of other designs…but unfortunately they just released some photos of the wedges a few days ago look up “Cleveland precision forged 588 wedges” on Google and then let us know if you think they are knocking off Titleist or not.
Tyler
13 years ago
I do agree with you they do look a little alike, but i think its mostly the graphics on the back of the wedge. If you look at the old 588 wedges and the new 588 wedges they look very close in the shape of each other. So i really don’t think they will look anything like the vokeys looking down at them… but if you look at the backs of both of the wedges they look very similar. I still don’t think they are knock-offs, but i don’t like that they made the backs look alike.
Tom Crisan
13 years ago
a titleist with an old dress
Ross
13 years ago
Looks great, really like the the CB. always love a cavity! Titleist must have their work cut out for themselves
JOEL GOODMAN
13 years ago
WOW, SURE LOOKS A LOT LIKE MY MIZUNO MP68s.
I bet they don’t feel as buttery as the MKIZUNO stix.
Louis Baton
9 years ago
68’s are a clickish hollow joke compared to these! 29’s and 14’s are much closer at impact!
Tim
13 years ago
Think the shiny finish has a cool retro feel, I’m shopping for blades this winter and will definitely give these a try. Still like the wilson staff blades more.
Jerry Foley
13 years ago
Not sure who deserves credit for designing the best blades but these two clubs look a lot like my old Mizuno’s. Most all of the club makers try to get their players using their clubs in competition and I suspect the tour players told Cleaveland what they wanted. Tiger played Mizuno’s, then Titleists until Nike signed him and he made them replicate his Mizuno’s.
KelvinW
13 years ago
How many ways can a blade and cavity back iron be designed? I give Cleveland credit for not trying to reinvent the wheel. Just another choice in what’s out there. Don’t the CG’s have the gel inserts in the cavity? Different strokes…
Brian Cass
13 years ago
Would agree with Jordan…I don’t see a massive similarity to Titleist on either of these. The muscle on the blade is lower and more pronounced and the cavity shelf in the CB is creative. I’m not buying them but I give them decent points on the design here.
Jordan
13 years ago
Titleist knock off…Yeah like they’re the first company ever to make blades. Seriously? Because none of the Titleist irons have any resemblance to any other forged blade or cavity back ever made. Titleist honks need to slow their roll.
Christopher
13 years ago
I don’t see the Titleist CB’s in the cavity backs, I bit of Taylor Made before the 300 series came out. They look great they have the shine of MacGregor’s about them. I like shiny blades and Titleist new satin MB’s. I’d probably go satin if I had a choice.
golfguy4
13 years ago
Not a fan of the blade, as many have said, looks too much like a Titleist knockoff. The Cavity iron though looks very clean and rather well done.
Nick Simard
13 years ago
At least I am sure they can’t feel as poor as the TM blades did once production models hit stores… Those were awful.
Funny to see Cleveland reverting back to Roger designs while Callaway tanks…
Jonnie
13 years ago
Pretty boring design imo. I agree with GolfSpy T, alot like the titleist blades but more boring. The CG16’s are also a step backwards in design. All the R&D must have went into the mashie this year lol
GolfSpy T
13 years ago
Umm…what’s going on at Cleveland these days? I know there’s only so many ways to make a blade stand out, but these look an awful lot like Titleist MBs (and CBs for that matter). Don’t get me started on the new wedges.
P-Gunna
13 years ago
Its sad to see Cleveland trying to knock off Titleist designs so blatantly, I don’t understand why they are doing this. I bet they will try and edge out Titleist on price, but that basically makes these new designs knock-offs. The wedge design they released looks so much like a Vokey its comical.
Rightedgefirm
13 years ago
Wow!
How long has it been since the original 588 irons?
Early / mid 90’s.
Crowded category.
Hope they have a comprehensive fitting system with competitive pricing.
Any unique forging processes?
Looks handsome.
Pro1
12 years ago
Fellow golfers. I do not usually comment on the subject of club performance and selection to undermine statements from other fellow golfers but in this case I cannot help it. Background on myself and skill level, I am a professional golfer playing on the European and PGA Tours for the past 13 years, retaining my card since turing pro. Having been sponsored by various manufacturers over the years I recently decided to compare various irons in the market that best suit my needs as a golfer, something that seems to have been left amiss throughout most of the comments here. Long story short I compared 8 different irons (usual suspects including Mzuno, Titleist, Cleveland, Callaway, etc, etc), 40 balls each model with a six iron. To ensure fairness I had the fitter mask every iron bottom and back, one to protect the club and two for me to select/ judge irons simply based on feel and performance for my swing and game. The Cleveland 588’s were my clun of choice – 38 balls with in a 2 foot deviation, identical swing speed, launch angle and spin! Two balls were not counted as I called ‘bad swing’ prior to results being captured. The other irons I hit could not compare to this data, including the irons I currently play.
I agree that these may not be the prettiest irons ever made, but they are certainly classic and, in my opinion, a fantastic iron for me. They feel soft, yet deliver the feedback I need to be able to address ‘issues’ with my game and try to adjust. The grooves are fantastic in generating additonal sping, something that may certainly not help in windy conditions, however, as it has a thinner top line with almost no offset controlling ones trajectory is simplified allowing you more workability in this regard.
As a professional we are all sometimes enclined to go with a brand for various reasons, be it preference, be it availability or be it a monetary decision. Most of us make the selection based on performance of the club for my game, and all of the manufacturers work tirelessly with us, and these clubs are it FOR ME. My sponsor has no issues for me to carry these irons in my bag until such a time as I decide it is time to move on.
In conclusion, I applaud you all to offer more personal performance review of the irons to these blogs as it helps fellow golfers out there looking for some feedback on the general overview of clubs, rather than getting in to a titt for tatt lash at one another – that you leave for the Sunday game at the course when you plan on making someone else pay for the breakfast and/ or beers.
There is a club (and shaft) out there for every one of us based on many different golfer profiles: budget, skill level, confidence level, swing and feeback to the fitter on what you want from your iron.
Swing hard, play well and don’t forget, have fun!
RON and Ray, take it to the course and resolve your differences there, everyone has a good day and, believe me, everyone has a bad day too! We can win some of the time but not all of the time.
Louis Baton
9 years ago
ditto- Pro 1 comments- My first and last comment on this site!
Same deal with me, only club as good- 681 w/TX 90 X flex. Second , third, fourth, difficult to assess. All equally amazing clubs with various shafts, including TC X1, DGX100, 6.5, 7.0, rifles, DG xlgX100 an old set from Boo- CG1’s satin- heads, 680, 695MB, Tour models, Ping s56, 57, X Forged, Hogan PC’s, Staff FG-51, Mizuno, 29, 14, 33, 57, JM Autograph, V-foil1025MB, Founder, Maxfli Aussie Blade, Fred Daly, Armour the 905- JM Oakmont copy- Nicklaus, Palmers, Snead, etc….
These clubs (588 MB) are pure- amazing, as good as my 3 sets of 681, w x100, TX90, Aerotech i99 spec. My drivers TM SDeep, w/GD throttle, Rip Phenom tour, RIP, HD6, White, and Ahina- FWIW, best swing in the game- of all time- recorded, Rapheal Jaquelin- no exception. Better than Snead, Hogan, els, goose, senden, scott, rory, etc…