Under The Microscope: Forged Versus Cast
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Under The Microscope: Forged Versus Cast

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Under The Microscope: Forged Versus Cast

For years, golfers have debated whether forged clubs are better than their cast counterparts.

Our data-driven testing at MyGolfSpy has proven there’s little to no performance difference between the two. The ball doesn’t know (or care) whether a club is forged or cast.

But what we haven’t yet explored are the differences between forged and cast clubs at a granular level.

Until now.

What if we could put a forged and cast club under an electron microscope and understand on (literally) a microscopic level WHY a golfer might prefer one to the other?

If the consensus is that forged clubs “feel” better, is there any actual material proof of that or are we just buying into the constant marketing hype drummed up by every mainstream manufacturer? Said another way: If we look under the hood of a forged and cast club, are they really all that different or is it all in our heads?

This isn’t your typical “forged versus cast” article. There’s no Foresight data and definitely no subjective feedback. This is the most in-depth, close-up and accurate look at the differences in the material construction of these clubs, right down to their grain structures and crystal orientations.

For the golfer looking for an extremely thorough and deep dive into this, read on. For the golfer looking for five takeaways after examining forged and cast clubs under an electron microscope, you can skip to that section here.

Before we dive into the two, it’s important for you to understand the actual observation process via the electron microscope. The process with which the microstructures of the forged and cast clubs were analyzed is called EBSD, electron backscatter diffraction.

What is EBSD?

According to Ametek, “Electron backscatter diffraction (EBSD) is a key analytical tool for characterizing the crystallographic microstructure in material and earth sciences. The EBSD technique uses a scanning electron microscope to gather statistical data on grain size, orientation, grain boundary character, and texture, which are critical parameters in determining the mechanical properties of crystalline materials.”

In layman’s terms, EBSD is a technique that allows material scientists to understand how metals react to different processing steps. Its applications include industrial engineering, auto engineering and more.

Here’s a quick example of the why behind EBSD. Say an industrial engineer is trying to figure out which material to make a pedestrian bridge out of. Looking at the microstructure of the metal provides a clear picture of the material and its potential weaknesses.

Said even simpler, EBSD is an essential component to quality control and materials development.

The process itself is complex and requires extensive sample preparation. And, of course, access to a electron microscope. Seeing as I have neither the access nor expertise to conduct an EBSD analysis, I reached out to a family friend to help me out.

After a lengthy analysis of both a forged and cast golf club, we’ve reached a few interesting conclusions.

1. Casting is inconsistent

The actual process of casting a golf club seems fairly simple. Molten metal is poured into a cast and the cooled. But the problem is that how fast or slow the metal cools has a direct impact on grain structure and, thus, the crystallographic orientation of the material.

“The final structure will depend strongly on that cooling rate,” said Matt Nowell, EBSD Product Manager at EDAX.

“When it (the metal) first solidifies from a liquid, It forms one type of a crystal. But as it cools down more to an ambient room temperature, it transforms into a different crystal. So what you have happen is that the initial crystals that form upon casting and cooling are essentially very large. But when they cool down further and they transform to this second phase, they have these smaller grains that occur. It’s just because there’s a shift in how the atoms are arranged from one crystal to the other.”

A quick look at the image generated from the electron microscope of the cast club face provides a detailed picture of this inconsistency.

Cast Golf Club (Low Mag)

What you see here is a scan of the crystal orientation of the cast club face. You’ll notice that the upper left portion of the image is entirely different, meaning the crystal orientation is different. Notice how random it is? This is because crystal orientation, and thus grain size, is largely dependent on that cooling process.

“It’s going to be random however it solidifies.” said Nowell.

In contrast, a look at the crystal orientation of a forged club face provides a model of consistency.

Forged Golf Club (Low Mag)

Notice that the crystal orientation is consistent throughout. It’s easy to see that the grains are smaller and more compact. This, too, has an impact on the integrity of the material (we’ll talk about that in a second).

The reason the forged club face is so consistent is because of the repeatability that comes with the forging process. No cooling, no heating. The metal is pressed in the same way again and again, leading to consistency at a crystallographic level from iron to iron, set to set.

“For forging, It’s a lot easier to understand and predict, if you’re always pressing on a piece of metal over and over again. the crystals in the metal will have a more consistent response. They’re going to bend the same way every time,” Nowell said.

“No matter how you forge the structure, you’re going to get this type of a final crystal orientation. So I think a set of forged clubs are going to end up to be more consistent.”

2. Smaller grains mean stronger metal

The rate at which the material is cooled has a direct effect on grain size. The more quickly the material is cooled, the smaller the grains. However, cooling too quickly can cause the material to become brittle.

That’s for casting. Forging inherently provides a smaller grain structure, as seen in the images above.

“As your grain size get smaller, that means your metal will be stronger. And I think that wasn’t completely unexpected.” said Nowell.

Forged Golf Club (High Mag)

So why not cool cast clubs at a quicker rate to make the grain structure smaller?

“If we’re thinking only in terms of trying to match the performance of the forged club by going to a smaller grain size, that would be beneficial. The drawback to that is that it could also make the material much more brittle. So it may not be able to withstand impact,” Nowell said.

Cast Golf Club (High Mag)

The pictures above show the clear difference in the size of the grains. Remember, the smaller the grain, the stronger the metal. As such, the forged clubs are more resistant to deforming or breaking, hence why they can be bent to different lies and lofts without snapping like a cast club would.

3. Feel is a result of how sound travels through the metal

When we talk about how a golf club feels, we’re often referring to (subconsciously or not) how it sounds when struck.

Most golfers agree (although I’m not convinced) that forged clubs feel better than cast clubs. The adjectives often used to describe forged clubs are “soft”, “buttery” or “muted.”

How the vibrations (or sound) propagate through the club are a direct result of the grains and their accompanying boundaries.

“It’s interesting because of the sound propagation through the metal. That acoustic energy is also a function of crystal orientation and so, having different orientation distributions and overall different, textures (how these orientations are created either through casting or through forging), can help explain why they will feel different,” Nowell explained.

“(They feel) differently because the sounds will be different and those vibrations will travel differently through the clubs and some of that is attenuated by the grain boundaries.”

Recap: Forged versus cast

  • Casting is inconsistent, forging is consistent
  • Smaller grains make for stronger metal. Forged clubs have smaller grain structures.
  • Feel is a direct result of how sound travels through grains. Different grain structures between cast and forged clubs will result in a difference in “feel.”

What can we conclude?

If you’re trying to get me to say forged clubs are better than cast, you’ll be disappointed. What I can confidently say after learning from my friend Matt is that the forging process is more consistent from a quality control standpoint.

Similar to how we evaluate golf balls in our Ball Lab, manufacturing quality is important to performance. So while a forged club may not “perform” better than a cast club in the typical sense, a forged club will more than likely be more consistent, iron to iron and set to set, on a material level than its cast counterpart.

“It makes sense to me how forging would add consistency to the overall behavior of the metal, as a golf club.” Nowell concluded. “If you want a known microstructure throughout one set to the other, forging would give that to you.”

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      Martin N

      2 years ago

      Thanks for the great write-up on the club production process. It would be great if you could have a look – using the same lens – at 3D-printed clubs (Cobra released ones recently) and how this process affects the characteristics of the club.

      Reply

      Gerry Teigrob

      2 years ago

      I played cast irons in all of my amateur career. I know that the Adams A4 irons were a forged iron that played well in their day. I played the A7s and Redlines. I played reasonably well, but didn’t find the same success as with my previous cast cavity back iron.

      I continued to play cast cavity back irons when I switched to Cobra…but it wasn’t until 2 years ago, I switched to graphite shafts. That, along with the cast Cavity back GI irons are getting me back to my previous confidence levels.

      Reply

      Bob Dodds

      2 years ago

      A very good test/comparison between the forged and cast heads. A comment that I would add is that many high end heads use forged bodies with a harder metel used for the insert, such as Carpenter steel. Then they vary the thickness of the insert; a thinner face for the long irons and thicker faces for the short irons. The Epon AF-707 irons would be a good example. They feel wonderful but I don’t know which contributes more to the feel, the forged body or the steel insert?

      Reply

      glen o

      2 years ago

      This is a nice attempt to look at the difference between the two.

      However

      Using STRONG in metallurgy is a vague word to use. A forged club being able to bend and cast breaking means the forged club is more ductile thus “softer” but that softness means its not as hard as the cast club thus it will have a higher tensile strength than the forged club so careful how you describe strength in metals. Confusing i know

      To say casting is inconsistent is a wild take. Casting can be controlled quite tightly based on the process used. You also have the ability to further temper it and take the hardness out.

      Forging does not necessary mean it is pounded over and over. Depends on the process. Mizuno only hammers the billet twice to achieve its shape and grain structure. They do a type of hot forging.

      All these recaps and fact said are predicated if these are two are of the same metals if not,
      this is futile and is like comparing the structural integrity of a hiking boot to flip flop sandals.

      Reply

      Chris

      2 years ago

      Thank you for the REAL explanation

      Reply

      HikingMike

      2 years ago

      Great comment, thank you. There are some inaccuracies and loose language there. That language needs to be more precise to describe the differences. What does “stronger” metal mean? Stronger in what way?

      Reply

      Tim

      2 years ago

      All the science points to forging being better but at MGS, we will not say it…lol……come on bruh……

      Reply

      TailWagger

      2 years ago

      I would assume that just as not all casting methodologies are equal across manufacturers, neither are how irons (or wood faces?) forged in the same way. PXG irons, which I currently play, touts they are ‘Five times forged’. Presumably some other irons are 2x, 7x, what have you. The law of diminishing returns is likely in play here, but one wonders about the effect of multiple pressings on grain size and strength. It would be interesting to compare the grain structure from different manufacturers to see if there is much of a variance in grain sizes and (doubtful) if there is any correlation at all with any aspects of performance, distance, spin, etc.

      Reply

      Ralph Hall

      2 years ago

      I have arthritis in the hands. After a round of golf my hands ached. I played ping. I tried the shaft buffer and even changed the shaft itself. A friend suggested I switch to forged. I purchased a set of Ansers. I have had several sets of forged since, problem solved, my hands do not hurt.

      Reply

      I’ve been making and repairing clubs for many years. and number years back the cast clubs you really can’t bend I have and got lucky and didn’t break. the tolerance is back a number of years. I saw some that were really off specially loft.. that’s why I like forge irons. They could be adjusted. I’m lucky with my Forge. I checked them maybe twice a year. See if they’ve moved.. Using very little of any. And a new golf balls the premium sounds so softer, off of forge irons off other than cast.

      Reply

      DougEB

      2 years ago

      Great article! Now who makes the most consistent cast clubs? Good luck with that. Not all forged clubs are blades. It seems that tour pros are mostly using some kind of forged cavity back. Consistency and quality sort of matter there.

      Reply

      Jim Shaw

      2 years ago

      fun article and the visual makes sense to me, I like the look of the “forged” grains, but I like things more organized than random…I have played forged clubs mostly all my life..

      Reply

      shephard

      2 years ago

      i like forged?

      Reply

      Alex C.

      2 years ago

      Conner, my irons (Titleist T300) are cast with forged faces. Was this process/technology discussed during the testing? I am pleased with the feel of my irons, I suppose that is really all that matters!

      Reply

      Rich

      2 years ago

      So forged performed better in every category, but “if you’re looking for me to say that forged is better than cast, you’re going to be disappointed“. SMH

      Reply

      mike stoltz

      2 years ago

      exactly. ???????

      Reply

      Kevin

      2 years ago

      No club manufacturer makes metal. They buy it from the same smelting company – that melts and mixes the iron, cobalt, carbon, nickel, etc to get the specific metal being made. So, the first question to ask is: is the cast and forged club made from the same, or different, metal? Cobra and Mizuno use a MIM process. How do those clubs compare to cast/forged?

      Reply

      Kuso

      2 years ago

      Different.
      So, unfortunately, what this test can’t show, is that there is no cast club that uses the same metal as their forged one in any of the manufacturers.
      Cast ones are cheaper for a reason: except that now, many of them have all that tech stuff added into them like hollow and multi-material construction with different metals and foam etc, so the prices are closer

      Reply

      glen o

      2 years ago

      Not within the same manufacturer but Vokey cast their wedges using 8620 and Ping blueprint irons are forged using 8620.

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